Rangers Banter Archive August 31 2016

31 Aug 2016 23:36:59
Tbh I've not been to happy with the signings this summer, as I would have liked players that where developing to come into the squad, the likes of Hardie, Murdoch and a few others but we have decided to go down south and look for players, just hopefully we can pull something out of the bag and win the league, We are the people!

31 Aug 2016 21:50:48
Still think a big bustling centre forward was needed this window. We need to have something different upfront which I don't think we have at the moment. Getting balls into the box when we need to win games late on has got to be our plan b when the tidy passing the ball through is not working imo.

31 Aug 2016 23:38:59
Doesn't matter how big or bustling he is if he can't pass the ball, and if he can do both he's on 200k a week in the English premiership.

01 Sep 2016 00:26:06
There's more leagues than England the Dutch league etc been known to produce a few gems don't know why were only shopping in the English championship and below?

01 Sep 2016 17:59:38
Fair enough we signed few youth player but we need first team players all of his so called contacts in English Premiership and we couldn't get one player in on loan Chelsea have loaned out 38 players chambers from Arsenal would have been perfect for us even man city got so many players but usual story only player we get is a has been senderos and still can't understand for the life of me why we signed hill we could have put their wages together and signed a decent centre back.

31 Aug 2016 18:09:50
Happy about senderos signing eventually. As it gives us a better option at centre half. But I am still quite concerned about centre of defence. Hopefully, after the windows done Warburton will whip up some player that's not got a club. And it's over with but can't see it. So who would like to take a punt on back 2 against the persons.

Hill? Senderos? Kiernan? Wilson?

31 Aug 2016 20:47:52
Sendeross/ Wilson every day for me.

31 Aug 2016 20:50:42
Liam that's us done mate. Let's get behind the team and support everyone in that defence. We'll come good.

31 Aug 2016 21:16:34
Wilson and Kiernan have looked good all season I don't see where the panic is coming from.

31 Aug 2016 21:38:50
If no more CB's come in, then it'll have to be Big Senderos and Wilson for me at the back, Wilson to pick the pass and Senderos to Win the headers.

31 Aug 2016 21:57:40
kiernan and Wilson imo with Barton sitting deep.

31 Aug 2016 22:08:25
Liam442,from my own personal view I would like to see a rangers centre half partnership of philippe senderos and danny wilson although I do think that warbs will still go with kiernan and wilson when fit and the older two of senderos and hill will be used for cover, I really do think that pairing senderos and wilson together would bring out the best in wilson as he excells when playing beside an experienced centre half.

31 Aug 2016 23:14:46
The time it took to get Senderos over the line, he isn't here for back up, reinforcement, cover or any other word you choose to call it. He's 31 and this could be the best years of his career and he has a chance to be an important starter for a team looking to win a domestic treble every season, including 2016/ 17.

As for who he plays alongside. Wilson every day of the week, without question, if you've seen any Rangers game this season.

01 Sep 2016 02:32:09
bears, what about Joey at centre back? cany be much worse than the rest. In saying that he's a little bit small. we are running out of time lads, let's hope we make europe next year or a think we your gny need to dig deep.

31 Aug 2016 18:46:27
Just seen Murdoch is off, but why do we keep terminating players contracts by mutual consent? We did the same with McGregor and he signs for hibs the next week. Surely we could sell Murdoch for 50 - 100k? Someone is going to sign this kid and get an absolute bargain.

31 Aug 2016 19:21:25
Yeah I can see raith rovers launching that kind of bid for him.

31 Aug 2016 19:58:33
If Murdoch was still under contract and we've let him go, why can't we do the same with Hill?

31 Aug 2016 20:53:20
You're exactly right BigJon. Why do we spend the money to develop players then release them? Ross McCormack is the best example of how we fail in that department.

31 Aug 2016 21:35:41
Hill has to be the most nonsensical transfer of the entire window.

31 Aug 2016 23:43:05
It happens with every team, not every single youth player will make the 1st team squad on a permanent basis.

31 Aug 2016 23:54:47
I have a feeling that Hill will come good. He has not been brought in to be a starter every week but his experience and maturity will help the others develop.

31 Aug 2016 17:58:52
great to finally get senders signed up. now who drops out of the team keirnan or Wilson?

31 Aug 2016 18:13:44
None I think it will still be Wilson and Kiernan at the back, I see this as MW looking forward to the future and how he has built his team also pointing to the two one year deals respectively for our other two centre backs means they aren't in our plans for the future. We will have a massive squad upgrade again next season as long as we are second place and in European football.

31 Aug 2016 18:24:22
Neither.

31 Aug 2016 18:29:42
Both, get crooks in there, had a good game last night by all accounts, if not it has to be keirnan . You could also try the young lad from raith.

31 Aug 2016 18:06:33
Kiernan everyday of the week.

31 Aug 2016 18:06:37
Keirnan has to be dropped surely. I think Wilson would do well with Senderos beside him.

31 Aug 2016 18:56:31
Got to have a look at senderos with Wilson against Linfield.

31 Aug 2016 19:38:25
I'd play three at the back giving our full backs more freedom to be adventurous, and with Rossiter just in front of the back 3, playing us out of defence. 3-3-2-1-1, plan B.

31 Aug 2016 21:10:56
billyb Warbs only plays 4-3-3 and only ever will play 4-3-3, we will never while he is there play any other formation. It's his philosophy.

31 Aug 2016 21:21:45
Kiernan will probably drop out and if both are fit Warbs might play them in the friendly v Linfield
Wilson needs an experienced defender playing alongside him.

31 Aug 2016 21:42:07
I would have a DM sitting in front of the back four as we are open to teams hitting us on the counter attack.

01 Sep 2016 02:42:02
Jason, a wish ye wur right, but where in badoogas name are we getting the money from?

Ye know how much we get for qualifying the Uefa Cup? 2.4 mill euro.

How we gony build a squad wae 2.4 milion euro?

Ye think decent players get wet when ye mention the uefa cup? Get real buddy.

We need to buy young and build a squad a youth, and sell players and re invest. Europe doesny make a difference.

We have 4 years until doomsday, build from the bottom.

31 Aug 2016 18:18:25
That is the question Jason, for me it has to be kiernan he's just not got it for me although I think warburton prefers him to Wilson.

31 Aug 2016 17:51:40
I don't know about anyone else but I'm delighted we have sign senderos, I think it's a great signing, he's very experienced and do you know what if the worst happens and it doesn't work out then we haven't lost that much, I think he is just what we need just now, time will tell guys.

31 Aug 2016 21:23:38
Got to be a better option than Clint Hill or Kiernan.

31 Aug 2016 17:33:28
That's business CLOSED as far as were concerned are you happy with the progress we have made this window?

Very pleased with the business that has been done can't think of any negatives and how MW builds his squad, with the aim to always have something different in each player. I think we will be very successful this season.

31 Aug 2016 18:01:42
depends on what you think a successful season is. I think a top 6 finish and a maybe winning a cup would be great.

31 Aug 2016 18:29:17
We will finish second comfortably the other squads in the league aren't anything special outside of celtic we are by far better, we can only improve in the league and we will have patience :)

31 Aug 2016 18:03:18
Agree RossW1995 if we have a fully fit Sanderos then to me that is a very good signing .
Matt Crooks will also be a very good addition .
We will be in the top two, some people on here are too impatient, let the guys gel as we have twelve new players, give them time to settle .

31 Aug 2016 18:10:49
I'm delighted Ross, we might not win the league this year as I think it's going to take a while for all our new players to gel but i fully expect Rangers to click right into gear in the next couple of months but by that time the league might be done but I'm happy with the work the club has done.

31 Aug 2016 18:52:27
I am happy where we are at for the moment but to be honest I was a little surprised at the fee we put down for Garner. I think he could be a decent player for us and should offer us more than Miller at this stage in his career and I was early in pointing out our interest in him weeks ago and was optimistic about the move but what was it, 1.8m? At that price I think it represents a bit of a gamble. Honestly thought we would be looking at a fee of most £1m for him.

31 Aug 2016 20:58:02
Celtic are decent. They're still in their Buck Rodgers honeymoon period. They'll run out of steam soon. They're still suspect in a few areas of the pitch. They're by no means "special". With the support of the fans and sells out at ibrox every other week, why can't we win the title this season? Why? Give me one good reason?

Optimism and positive thinking people. Leicester city nearly got relegated 14/ 15 season.

31 Aug 2016 21:01:58
It involves addons which will need to be met for the fee to rise to that but considering how MW usually isn't willing to spend big on players it tells me he must have real quality (Garner) .

01 Sep 2016 02:46:12
MontyPie,

Leicester have good players, a coach with a bucketload of experience.

We have a squad of dross, the players with passion are past it Miller, Barton etc. And the ones wae talent will be gone in Janurary.

How can ye compare us to Leicester, only thing we have going for us is a cracking stadium and best fans.

We are skint, but get behind yer team n stop building up peoples expectations.

31 Aug 2016 17:59:54
OMG, most of the players are non sale-able its a bloody mishmash of players at the end of their careers and cheap others with no proven track record who were playing in the lower English Leagues.
If MW picked this lot IL eat my proverbial hat, this is a fire sale of players who fit the bill of being a "sticky plaster over a wound"to get us through to around mid league (i hope) .

Next year the same will happen with Sendros and others moving on and more new/ old faces appearing for their pay day cheques. the way things are going at Ibrox, bloody Derek Johnston and Super Ally will be our next marquee signings.

31 Aug 2016 17:23:12
SENDEROS SIGNS----on a one year special------not what i wanted but hopefully he cures the jitters at the back-----welcome to ibrox --.

31 Aug 2016 16:54:54
I know we have to live with in our means but totally feel let down by King and Co . it's going to be a long long season.

31 Aug 2016 17:15:59
Are you serious? What have you been let down about? Barton Kranjcar Rossier Crooks Windass Senderos Hodson Gilks Garner Dodoo Hill. What more do you want?

31 Aug 2016 17:16:11
Sanderos just signed.

31 Aug 2016 17:24:01
Senderos has signed
We have Barton, Krancjar, Rossiter and Senderos, plus half a dozen other decent signings. Without ruining the financial stability we desperately need
Criticism of the Board is totally absurd unless you are a multi-millionaire as it's their own money which has gone into the club and brought stability.
Criticism is just plain stupid!

31 Aug 2016 17:27:15
Senderos, Garner, kranjcar, Barton, hill, dodoo, rossiter, gilks, hodson.

And you feel let down? We have no money, who did u expect. Would have liked a big powerful striker but they ain't easy to find.

31 Aug 2016 17:31:06
Not to mention extended deals for current players.

31 Aug 2016 17:33:54
Players that are willing to fight and are fit would start a defence that can defend we are getting rid of young players for Barton kranjcar.

31 Aug 2016 17:42:46
Spot on Ross, I think some fans don't realise how much it costs to run Rangers, King and co have invested money but sometimes fans only think that money spent on new players is investing, it's costs a fortune to run Rangers, wages, Murray park, ibrox all the day to day stuff, upgrades to the lounges at ibrox, a lot of money has been spent but sometimes people don't see it that way.

31 Aug 2016 17:48:46
Can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading on this site. Call yourselves Rangers fans.

Get a grip. loose purse strings almost cost us our club, we can't and won't go back to free spending in order to buy success and pacify the fans thirst for multi million pound players.

We are where we are, so get used to it. We have no given right to win the league or finish runners up.

Support the Team in the stands and on line. The Mhanky Mob are pissing themselves reading some of this dross.

Rant over

C'mon The Rangers🇬🇧.

31 Aug 2016 18:10:31
Delboy. You must agree most of our signings have been v poor . Kranjar is stiffer than Hugh Hefner, hill is woeful, Barton been rotten, rossiter bummed up to the max yet not seen much to get excited about. So we have signed a lot of players however so far I have yet to be convinced by many of them!

31 Aug 2016 18:12:39
Spot on Greyfriar. A lot of fans are talking like we've been playing in Europe the last few seasons and forgetting we were playing against part timers not too long ago. For the ones who slate Dave King I will never understand. To be where we are now after dealing with White, Green and still Ashley is a minor miracle.

31 Aug 2016 16:43:09
Henri Camara has been seen at Murray park.

31 Aug 2016 16:48:54
u at it mate where did u hear this
is there any pictures of camara! lol.

31 Aug 2016 16:51:34
Well he is only 39, got a few years left in him yet.

31 Aug 2016 18:00:24
Ohh fantastic, a wee cheeky 5 year deal would be nice now.

31 Aug 2016 16:29:35
Again for people saying we are linked with x y z, it doesn't matter the only incoming player (singular) will be a centre back. Diagouraga link for example is to sell papers.

31 Aug 2016 16:25:22
Bristol city just signed striker gustav engvall, so looks like more bs being written about waghorn.

31 Aug 2016 16:05:47
Bristol city just signed a striker from Gothenburg so I would think it puts doubt on the waggy rumours.

31 Aug 2016 16:38:22
Can they not sign 2 strikers?

31 Aug 2016 16:57:26
Sure they can but I highly doubt they'd leave it to TD-day to sign both.

31 Aug 2016 15:27:58
I have it on good authority from within Ibrox that there will be no last minute signings. The only deal is Sendeross and the expectation is that he will sign.

31 Aug 2016 15:35:03
Aw I presume u have spoken to warburton and King about who Rangers are signing then yeah?

31 Aug 2016 15:51:44
I don't think there will be any last minute surprises either, I think our work is done except for a centre half. I hope I'm wrong though and we sign two centre backs as in my opinion that's where we really need to strengthen.

31 Aug 2016 14:56:47
I hear we're being linked to Diagouraga again, who's to say MW doesn't decide to play him at CB?

31 Aug 2016 15:24:31
Or play crooks at centre back and digouraga as a midfielder, crooks seemed to fit in there when he played for the under 20s.

31 Aug 2016 16:14:16
Read the U20 match report. First half sounds awfully familiar doesn't it? I hope Crooks is the answer but I'm not putting all my eggs in one basket with that lad until I see him play.

31 Aug 2016 14:33:41
For all the people saying "no signs of this or that" if it's anyone but Senderos you'll not here about it till its a done deal.

31 Aug 2016 13:48:18
Hi this is my first post I've been reading all the comments about signing's I personally don't think we will sign anyone hopefully I'm wrong but if we don't then I think we should field the following team against the self confessed world champs 😂😂
Fod/ Gilts
Tav Kiernan Wilson? (If fit) hill Waldo
McKay Barton Rossiter Forrester
Miller
Because if we go 4-3-3 we may pay the penalty my formation gives us cover in the middle and pace on the wing it's just my opinion for what it's worth what do you think.
The Bear.

31 Aug 2016 14:05:29
I would go with

Gilks

Hodson Kiernan Wilson Wallace

Barton

Tav Haliday Rossiter Mckay

Waggy (if fit)

31 Aug 2016 14:29:20
Barca I like this system. Halliday > Forrester tho. We need that lads dig in the Celtic game. Tav as a RM might not work though as he'll be man marked and could get found out. The reason he works so effectively as an attacking RB is that he has freedom and space to run. Not so much at RM. But I would like to see this formation.

31 Aug 2016 14:38:47
wow Barcelona bear that's tav on the right wing yes!
I mean why would u do that just why I know he likes to get forward but my god naw he is no r/ m.

31 Aug 2016 14:42:38
Fod

Tav
Kiernan
Wilson
Wallace

Barton

Kranjcar
Halliday

Mckay
Forrester
Garner.

31 Aug 2016 14:50:59
Why not James? we all know he is better going forward than he is defending, so why not stick him in a attacking position without the worry of having to get back to cover our CB, especially when we have hodson who is fast and can defend really well.

31 Aug 2016 15:19:57
I know Gilks is good keeper but wouldn't want him playing against them as he's only had cup outings so far. I'm actually hoping they're change of keeper for an old firm rookie might help us.
Could speculate all day about what team would suit us best. IMO Halliday, Forrester, McKay and Miller have to start, Halliday was immense last time against them, Forrester being most consistent player at Rangers in past few games and before he got injured. McKay was MOM and although hesitant at times there's no doubting his ability and he done v well in old firm debut. Finally Miller always seems to score big goals especially against them and his Pigery record is also class, let them believe they are superstars but lack of clean sheets, extra pressure to succeed, managers debut in the game and injury doubts coupled with our ability to keep possession and frustrate will do the business.

31 Aug 2016 15:30:52
If tav changes to right mid wheres our right back cover and itd also mean taking one of the wide players out the team, the way mw sets up is so the wingers can change sided and tbh i don't think I've seen tav kick a ball with his left foot, mckay, forrester, MOH are all 2 footed tavs left foot is used only to stand on lol.

31 Aug 2016 16:16:01
I think tav is good going forward Barcelona bear as a fullback he isn't good enough to take any of our wide players out of the game though.

31 Aug 2016 16:20:19
McKay has been a ghost so far this season and Halliday hasn't impressed me either. I would be picking my team based on current form and not on how they played against a poor Celtic team last season. And btw, we drew that game, I think everyone forgets that.

31 Aug 2016 13:39:27
Odds slashed for ings to come to Rangers, him and senderos might be the last of out transfers this season. Source the daily record (rag)

31 Aug 2016 14:01:05
Remember when RVP betting got suspended? Would love Ings but there's no way this is happening. The Rag up to their old tricks it would seem.

31 Aug 2016 14:40:15
please I just want a cb! at least one!

31 Aug 2016 13:25:53
STV reporting Senderos might not sign tonight but should be in before the weekend.

31 Aug 2016 13:38:52
hope he does sign we need all the help we can get back there.

31 Aug 2016 14:18:06
I feel the Midfield and Attack will come good especially with Waghorn, Windass, Holt and Crooks still to show what they can do and I have a bit of hope that Senderos and Wilson could do a job together but Kiernan and Hill just aren't for me.

31 Aug 2016 14:41:58
defo think crooks will be a cb for us don't think he can get into our midfield just now and being a big lad that can play football we need him back there that being said i'd still like sum1 else.

31 Aug 2016 13:07:37
Keep seeing bring back bouggy then the same people saying we don't need old players back, aye he was good when we had him but if he loved the club like people are claiming whyd he leave, definitely don't need a cb that thinks he's a striker, for all we know bouggy could be just as pish as kiernan, we need solid young players that add value to the squad, not an ex player who at 33 is playing in the UAE, if bouggy cared about the club he Wouldn't have left for lekhwiya, a team noone heard of, bougherra like senderos and lescott are trying to make a last pay day because none of them have much longer playing.

31 Aug 2016 13:43:14
mate he is a proven defender who did a great job of defending, yes he liked a run forward but always got back to defend al that cb that wants to be a cf is bull mate.
he is a way better defender than what we have. and as for going back the way if we can get a proven cb like bougy when we can't get anyone else in and our defence is a shambles then what is your problem with that. plus he wouldn't demand high wages.

31 Aug 2016 13:46:29
so we should turn down a descent player in a position we need for what? because he left us about 5 year ago? if he's still upto get him signed.

31 Aug 2016 14:04:40
James when was last time you seen bouggy kick a ball? Lescott was a proven defender in the past but if I recall you didn't want him anywhere near the club? I'll pass on Bouggy thanks.

31 Aug 2016 14:51:09
difference is I knowq for a fact lescott knees have gone and he demands high wages that the two reasons I didn't want him.
bougy is cheap and I watched bougy couple of times last year he still has his legs.
plus monty its worth the risk we get him for nothing pay him little and give him 1 year deal where is the harm in getting that proven cb that plays for the jersey!
don't know why any rangers fan that's seen the guy play would snub him when what we have is a shambles.

31 Aug 2016 15:02:49
Exactly monty, some people think that he's still going to be the same player 5 yearson but he's no, he's also playing for a club in the UAE, means there would havety be a transfer fee, bouggy is happy enough where players go for a last payday before retirement, if bouggy was going to come back why did dw tell him he wasnt needed, bringing back bougherra would get the majority of fans back behind the manager but i think it would be a bad decision by the management team and would be a major panic buy, always see people saying crooks at centre back, what about the lad bates that's been on the bench, i'd give him a runout against linfield, saves wilson from rushing back and if he plays well it means hill would be further away from the team.

31 Aug 2016 12:44:13
I honestly believe unless it's PS we will sign no one else and will just have to go with what we have.
To all the fans out there that said King promised us this amount.
FREE transfers still cost money, signing on fee wages bonuses etc.

31 Aug 2016 13:12:55
Yes but the season ticket money paid for the free transfers - along with the money freed up from all the players that left.

I struggle to see how people can't understand that.

Look at DK quotes over the last year- then look at his actions.

31 Aug 2016 13:31:08
Gannet, finally someone with common sense. Of course free signings cost money. I struggle to see how some people can't understand that season ticket money is a finite amount and there's more expense in running a club than signing players.

Mr Nice, what portion of the season ticket money do you allocate to running costs on match days? Security, ground staff etc etc. What about the admin staff working at Rangers? Ok so there's some advertising and TV money but it's a insignificant relative to the expenditure of a club the size of Rangers. £15m a year for all of Scottish football's Tv rights. Pathetic

There's stadium upkeep, staff at MP, IT staff, hospitality staff, doctors/ physios, youth staff, the list goes on and on. Some approximate calculations and you'll see ST money covers a fraction of this. Let's not forget there's nothing coming in from merchandise either .

DK has invested this season, I have no doubt of that. Whether it's been invested wisely or not, remains to be seen.

31 Aug 2016 13:36:53
Mr nice since dave king and the 3 bears took control they have paid 5 million to mike ashley, they have provided loans of 11 million to be converted into shares, they have stabilised our club that we are no longer a circus act on the front page of every newspaper, have brought in 10 signings spending 620k in development fees for dodoo, rossiter windass and crooks, hodson etc and spent 1.5 million on garner . And also taking the fight to mike ashley with regards to our dodgy retail deal, what else can they possibly do some people will never be happy, we are well on the road 2 recovery after a horrendous 5 years, and I and many other bears are happy with the direction we are moving .

31 Aug 2016 13:47:58
he hasn't invested enough that's the problem, Warburton can only do so much.

31 Aug 2016 13:52:57
mr nice I know u don't like king but for what I don't know .
king is being smart we can't afford to splash the cash the now if we did we could end up in really bad shape again.

he is also trying to get us out of a ridiculous contract that only benefits one party and that's the fat mans party.

I could see us now under the leadership of Charles green and mike Ashley. everyone saying "ahh remember the good old days when there used to be a rangers team! at least we are back where we belong.

I can't see us getting anyone in today and for that reason we will finish 4th 5th at best this season maybe a lot worse.

31 Aug 2016 14:08:34
Exactly f85. The ST from the copeland road alone probably pays for lawyers and accountant fees ;)

31 Aug 2016 14:12:26
James I agree with the 1st part of your post with regards to dk, but 2 suggest we will finish 4th or 5th is crazy. St johnstone finished 4th last year winning only 16 games, Motherwell who we have already beat twice whilst playing well below our standard finished 5th. We haven't had a great start but we will definitely improve, I think the problem so far has been the midfield we cannot play halliday barton n rossiter they are 2 similar, imo we need 1 of the 3 with windass, forrester or holt in there driving at teams and creating space.

31 Aug 2016 14:57:31
okay f85 I take it back i'm just really disappointed that we haven't brought in another cb as bougy is a free agent and 10 times better than Wilson and r/ k so its just hard to contemplate why.
its not like they don't know we have a problem at cb and its not like they don't know bougy wants back.

31 Aug 2016 15:52:25
I totally understand Bro cb should have been sorted by now, it's a worry anytime a team attack us we almost always concede, and for scott mcdonald to bully, and beat our cbs in the air is terrible, fingers crossed we get senderos signed up and maybe give the boy bates or crooks a try can't be any worse than kiernan.

31 Aug 2016 16:12:40
Mr Nice how do you know what the season ticket money paid for?
You do also realise the club is still running at a loss every month so that makes me think season ticket money would be going towards that but I am guessing as I don't know know.

31 Aug 2016 16:15:25
Cee he hasn't invested enough? Are you serious he has invested a lot more than you pal so pipe down.
Some fans on here need there head checked, we are running at a loss every month and look what happened the last time we spent money we didn't have.
Do you want our club to go back to admin?

31 Aug 2016 12:29:49
Question, given Sir Davie has had almost 2 years to work with Wilson and Kiernan and we have 2 full backs who at times can be described as suspect (I accept the system doesn't help! ) Who would people think was the best defensive coach between John Kennedy and Davie Weir?

just asking.

{Ed039's Note - Davie hasn't had nearly 2 years considering both players only signed just over a year ago .......

31 Aug 2016 13:57:15
the talent has to be there which it may well be for these boys but at the same time warbs should know with the way he get our team to play then we need cb's with pace. and its hard to believe how slow those two professional footballers actually are.
that's why we get caught out.

31 Aug 2016 12:03:31
We better get a new CB or 2 before the window closes or its game over for us for wining anything this year.

Also what happened to a good manager building his team from the back. Stop the goals first then build on that. Rangers have always had the best of GK and CB's, we need to get back to that.

Finally, as I posted the other day. If we want to do anything against Selik we need to play
4-2-3-1


Tav, New CB, New CB/ Wilson, Waldo

Rossitier Halliday

MOH Forrester McKay

Garner

Please MW, wake up 4-3-3 is not going to cut it, the 3 in the middle are to defence minded and slow and can't get the attack going quick or direct enough and the 3 up top are left with no space to run at defences because the playing to far up the park and it is easy for teams to stifle is because of that.

Play 1 player up top as a focal point and 3 behind, this means we have space to run at team and also means there defenders have to play higher up pitch and out of position sometimes as they need to deal with our players running from the middle.

FFS its not hard to work out.

Then we can have 2 protecting our back line adding protection as it is our weakest points.

CMON warbs sort it get with the programme here.

Man City play exactly this way and destroy teams.

31 Aug 2016 12:13:12
Let's not panic Melvo. I would love to play 11 outfield players against Celtic but I don't think the SFA would allow it.

31 Aug 2016 12:14:57
Do u fancy the job?

31 Aug 2016 12:13:12
Let's not panic Melvo. I would love to play 11 outfield players against Celtic but I don't think the SFA would allow it.

31 Aug 2016 12:18:48
It's not MW fault. It is DK that has failed to honour his promises of investment and has failed to back the manager.

Too late now, if I were MW I would be really peed off.

31 Aug 2016 12:22:08
Halliday is rotten and no way should waggy not start and MOH no chance not good enough either that team would get destroyed.

31 Aug 2016 12:35:24
mr nice - although I have my reservations about the way things are going (on the pitch), you have no idea what investment has been made. We have signed 10 players, that believe it or not costs money. We haven't sold anyone to make money, and our commercial side is mince! On top of this money has been spent on the stadium, Achenhowie, the backroom staff, and development squads, which will be in place for years to come. I wouldn't be surprised if we are still paying the wages of those players on loan.
we need to get real as far as spending is concerned - and unlike some people I would expect by end of this season we will be very close to have spent the 30 million that keeps being bandied about (FYI - that wasn't a transfer budget, that's what he said we would need to bring us back to some sort of normality)

31 Aug 2016 12:51:00
some people just love to slate the manager and player, ohalloran just needs a descent run, halliday is our most consistent performer and it was proved against Kilmarnock.

31 Aug 2016 12:53:03
Bill our accounts are public record.

The only money DK has put into club is in form of directors loans- which are loans that need relayed either in cash or shares.

I can't believe that people can't see throw him. I really can't.

31 Aug 2016 12:55:12
I wanna see holt back man, been missing his directness so far this season.

31 Aug 2016 13:37:01
Surely the accounts for this season haven't been published yet?

31 Aug 2016 14:12:12
id def have holt beside forrester in the middle just infront of rossiter, for me barton hasn't been the great signing we hoped he would be as yet!
niko kranjcar is a great player with poor fitness so still say bring him on the last 20-30 mins.
hodson is not the biggest but is great back up for our fullbacks.
crooks yet to be proven windass is good but still not proven as yet!
dodoo not strong enough.
clint hill. enough said!
garner not made my mind up yet but think he can still do the business.
moh not for the style we play but could be good if that changed.
gilks think is the same as wes tbh!

point is fellow bears all those signings has hindered us we had a tight nit squad who played really nice football with loadsa goals but now we have a big squad no first choices as such and we are playing awfull.
really disappointed right now with everything that's went down since the league started.

31 Aug 2016 11:06:42
Alot of Rangers being limited with signings is definitely down to not get anything for shirt sales Mike Ashley needs to **** off!

31 Aug 2016 12:23:38
Ashley says ok he will walk away because you said so.

31 Aug 2016 10:16:17
Cannot believe we are contemplating selling waghorn
what is happening with the money dave king promised us he would spend when wee came up?

Meekings looks a decent acquisition if we can land him tbh rather him than senderos - senderos for me is past it that's why nobody wants him
so far this season too many players looking like there here for a holiday and a wage. MW needs to crack heads and get this team playing otherwise we could end up way down the league. 1st time in a while I have actually been worried about the team they don't look hungry or interested

we should have had cb sorted out way before today and that's if we even land anybody. why did we even sign a 37 year old Hill sorry bad bit of business there

Not sure where were going at this moment in time but it needs URGENT ADDRESSING

Whats everyone thoughts

1st time posting Btw.

31 Aug 2016 10:29:54
Were not contemplating selling Waghorn mate, its a rumour, he'l be a Rangers player after 12 midnight.

31 Aug 2016 10:30:30
Completely agree mate. Barton has looked majorly off pace and for me shouldn't be starting, think we're missing someone who can play the holt/ windass role in the midfield, sooner they're fit the better. A commanding CH is a must today, preferably not Senderos. With our full squad fit and a new CH brought in I feel we'd be back to our brilliant best.

My starting XI would be

Fod

Tav Wilson new CH Wallace

Rossiter
Halliday Holt/ Windass

Waggy Mckay
Garner.

31 Aug 2016 10:43:07
I've yet to see any official news about Waghorn so think this is just a nothing rumour at the moment mate but you never know. I personally think if the club are considering letting him go then they will have someone else lined up. Clubs these days usually know about potential bids for weeks so I'm sure the club will have been working on other options. As for the CB issue its not as if Warburton hasn't been trying he has had a few knock backs so far and I really don't think senderos will be his only option otherwise we would have sorted the deal by now. I think we will be fine and it's only been four games so let's not panic just yet. We had a really poor spell last season when everyone was saying Hibs would win the league ect but we quickly turned it around and I have no doubt we will sort it out this time as well. Let's see how we are after 10 games.

31 Aug 2016 11:12:19
Forrester not make your starting 11?

31 Aug 2016 11:30:34
Honestly monty he probably wouldn't, I think he always looks great when he comes off the bench but not so much as a starter. Maybe instead of Mckay as he's been off the boil so far this season.

31 Aug 2016 12:19:50
I think Forrester has been our best player in the games he's played so far this season. I love his dig and he has a touch of class about him.

31 Aug 2016 09:39:50
I cannot help but think MW will pull something out of his hat today. A CB at least will happen but have a sneaky feeling there may be a surprise before midnight.

31 Aug 2016 10:12:15
wouldn't mind harlee dean or aden flint but the English market is bonkers they would probably cost about 8 million lol. someone mentioned josh meetings who is good but not great in the air.

31 Aug 2016 09:34:00
Jordan rhodes to go out on loan from boro . he would be type of player we need would rather had him than garner.

31 Aug 2016 09:51:45
what half a game and you would get shot of him, no chance of you giving anyone a chance then.

31 Aug 2016 10:09:20
Can't see it, Boro paid 9 million in January and they have a few English championship teams sniffing round.

31 Aug 2016 09:09:41
So if what warburton says is true if waghorn leaves should be another striker coming in needs four strikers and four centre back for cover signed joe garner but let waghorn go still a striker short and a centre back to come in here's to hopeing.

31 Aug 2016 08:49:11
I think a finish near top of table 2nd or 3rd would be an acceptable season imo . we are running at a loss, very little revenue coming in so european football next season is a must, i do think the board need to look at different revenue streams as it looks like the retail deal isn't going away anytime soon unless king can pull a rabbit out the hat on that issue . i think some glamour friendlies would have been good for making extra cash instead of a wash out against burnley.

31 Aug 2016 09:06:42
if i was king i would consider changing the trademark of the club and create new shirts ect we are beeing hampered by this.

But i must also i say i am not happy with king so far he has failed to produce the funding for transfers he previously promised.

An the transfer policy off signing oldies again has not impressed me this is a backwards step.

31 Aug 2016 10:41:14
Craig we have signed windass, crooks, rossiter, dodoo, hodson and garner all young with potential to make us good money in the future . And signed barton and niko and Gilks for experience which was badly missing last year. The signing of hill is a bit of a mystery as he is finished and provides nothing imo, but 2 say dk has failed to produce funding is crazy we have just bought a striker for 1.5 million. The negativity in general on this site after 4 league games really is frustrating, we haven't started great but we will definitely find our form, I think expectations were 2 high from some expecting we would win the spl this year, although I would love it but i think this year should be about us taking 2nd place comfortably and build again for next year.

31 Aug 2016 08:27:08
Can't see us selling Wagging tbh, no matter if was £3.9m. Our need of CB's is obvious n i don't think for 1 min Warbs doesn't have this as a priority but he is keeping his cards close to his chest on it tho imo, cause i'm sure as soon as he went public with an approach other teams will swoop. All this being said its "Squeaky Bum Time" now.

31 Aug 2016 07:48:08
The boy from Hearts would be a good signing, adim ozturk the cb, he wants to leave Hearts and i think we could get him on the cheap.

31 Aug 2016 08:06:30
Decent player, already played with wilson so they'll no each others game, imo this is the singing we need to make.

31 Aug 2016 08:06:42
Good shout.

31 Aug 2016 08:29:28
I thought the big pole augustyien (sp) looked fantastic for them last year.

31 Aug 2016 10:43:12
Augustyien is quite slow, he plays the same football as hill but obviously a younger style.

30 Aug 2016 23:01:18
So senderos seems to be holding off for a better deal? Excuse me but the chance to play for rangers should be enough to sign, if not then do one, wasting time and effort on a guy who doesn't even know if he wants to be here, warbs get your finger out!

31 Aug 2016 00:55:51
Agree with u mate. don't want anyone here whos heart isn't in it.

31 Aug 2016 07:24:32
To be fair to the boy, it looks as if we've been keeping him waiting to see if we could get anything better, so he's well within his rights.

31 Aug 2016 07:32:53
I reckon senderos has been desperate for us to sign him, with the more time that's went on and without us exploring different options, he's clicked on to the fact we are now panicking and badly needing a cb, so he's hit us with the news he's waiting for a better deal elsewhere to persuade us into offering him a deal he can't refuse!

31 Aug 2016 07:49:11
Good riddance honestly he's terrible.

31 Aug 2016 09:26:28
Agree with Negri while he was training with us we were desperately trying to sign Lescott and almost did. The club were weighing up their options so what's wrong with him doing the same?