Rangers Banter Archive September 30 2012

30 Sep 2012 22:12:04
Hmrc. Tax bill from oldco 93 million!! Absolute disgrace! I'm actually ashamed about that figure!

Well given that it's a made up figure. Nothing to be ashamed of. Potential liability and fixed liability are different things, clearly you don't understand that.

The only certain figure is the one D&P issued in the statement to creditors.£53 million.

01 Oct 2012 13:06:39
Well bears you cant hold wee craigie for running up all that debt.

Just a few weeks ago the debt was £140m, a few months before then it was £125m.

So which is it? Where are these phantom numbers coming from?

TTG

01 Oct 2012 16:28:16
according to D & P to HMRC " for voting purposes their claim will be admitted at £94,426,217.22"...source SUN newspaper page 6..Johnny G ,,happy to help that figure not just made up.. {Ed001's Note - it is in the S*n, how is that any kind of source? They make up 99% of their content, so please don't talk utter nonsense and get a grip. Either make it reliable or don't bother.}

Scotsman says it too. £94.4m with £73m or so part of theBIG TAX case. So not owed as yet, only if case goes against us.

01 Oct 2012 18:06:01
Ed001..I find your comments in line with most football fans regarding what is in the s~n that being if it agrees with what you want to hear it is a truthful friend to the club but if it is against you it is a mythical writing rag..I am disappointed at you as an ED not being opened minded enough to just leave uncommented on...if the financial times ran the same story tomorrow would you then put some creedence to the article or if indeed D & P agree they made the statement to HMRC that was printed..after all we punters can only rely on the press for information as we do not hold the lofty All Knowing position of being an ED...JohnnyG.. {Ed001's Note - are you for real? I am a Liverpool fan, I wouldn't wipe my backside on the S*n, all versions of it have shown to be nothing but lies. I think you should apologise for you ridiculous comments based on complete and utter ignorance. If you quote a reliable source, then I have no issue, I do have an issue when you try to claim the S*n as a reliable source. I also have an issue with anyone dumb enough to even bother to read anything in that rag. Where I come from S*n readers are the lowest form of life.}

01 Oct 2012 18:50:47
I would like to explain in simple terms to those Laptop lawyers on here. Teacher says to Johnny If you had 21 Apples, but lets just say for voting purposes you have 94 Apples then how many Apples do you have ?.,,,,,,ANSWER...21.

@Ed. Nice one. It also has a reading age of 7, the reason being because the editors of that rag know their readers aren't very advanced. Actually, I'd say your average 7 year old has greater intellectual capacity than anyone who takes the S*n as a reliable source. {Ed001's Note - I fully agree, it is a horrible piece of filth.}

02 Oct 2012 11:51:12
@4

If this £94m figure agreed with other creditors, this sum of money will be the tax bill alone. When combined with other debts such as Ticketus money the total value of debt the oldco ran up will be close to the £140m mark

30 Sep 2012 18:40:57
Rangers by far most watched team in scottish domestic football.rangers are the attraction in scotland.if niy let spl prove us wrong and dont touch our broadcsst rights....wait...without us they got nothing biewerd want to see...all i want to see is spl sfa investigated for racketeering

Is this why you dont post on your blog at weekends any more Leggat? laughable

Famous and infamous.

Very similiar... the gers story in last year compelling reading, for all the wrong reasons. nothing on the pitch.

More fans have watched celtic this season counting home and away games.so how are you by far the most watched team in scottish domestic football.

Yep you are the most watched ...right up their with the oj simpson trial ...fuzzy

30 Sep 2012 12:08:05
While the atmosphere between Rangers and the SPL/SFA continues Charles Green says he will never allow Rangers into the SPL while he's in charge.

So what are we to gather from that? The club will lose just enough games never to get promoted from Div 1 if they get into that position? They will decline entry and therefore turn their nose up at a potential Champions League return? He has no ambition to be there that long? (Three seasons minimum). Or is it just another cynical attempt to woo the Rangers support?

What if there is league reconstruction? Will his club vote against it and therefore vote against getting back to the top flight potentially one season quicker? I've got a funny feeling all authorities/Rangers "problems" will be over by then.

It's easy chucking insults at a division you are potentially three years away from, then says it's all sorted as it's potential entry awaits.

But here's the rub. The news story below this one on the BBC's webpage has a report from the Mail On Sunday saying that Scottish Football League chief executive David Longmuir says his organisation will wait until the Scottish Premier League concludes its investigation into Rangers' alleged use of dual contracts before deciding whether it should consider stripping the club of League Cup victories.

Oh dear, suddenly the enemy isn't three years away, he is right in your face, a body that Green and many Gers fans have applauded for months might soon have the temerity to give Rangers a knuckle rap. What happens then?

I've got another funny feeling, this one involves Green being a bit less brash and combative. What if the SFL do strip Rangers of League Cups, will he demand leaving the SFL too? Never in a million years.

I thought he'd have a few seasons of authority bashing to get the fans on board, then tell you all "Awww it was all a big misunderstanding and we're all pals again." But this has got some immediacy about it. I wonder how he'll react and how much you will buy his every word after it?

Enjoy, it's going to be interesting.

Gaz

Green is not tough enough. What bluenose posts say on Rumours is the answer. No spl if they steal our titles 'til returned. Stuff spl,sfa,europe,sky,another league set-up,etc. Why hurt our fans. They would be so dejected that even the carrot of playing in europe wouldn't stop their anger. WATP

Yet your still happy to play under the sfa

Gaz, don't be a pleb pally. Any sensible supporter will have nothing against David Longmuir waiting to see the result and then considering his response. It's the way it should be done and shows 'real' integrity, not the hate filled excuse that some have been guilty off.

One question to you if the tables were turned and it was Celtic. Wot would u b demanding. Answer truthfully. ! Ps I support neither rangers or Celtic

30 Sep 2012 16:36:41
Rangers will not enter the SPL as long as he is chief executive. OK, let's think about that statement. It means that Rangers will never challenge Celtic's supremacy while Green is at Ibrox. They will never attempt to sicken them by winning the title back off them. They will never attempt to make the Champions League. They will never attempt to get their hands on the many millions of pounds that entry into the Champions League provides. They will happily sit in a lower league and watch Celtic claim championship after championship and maybe fortune after fortune in Europe's elite competition.

This is what Green is selling and plenty of fans seem to be buying it. Give him this much, Green is a hell of a 'SALESMAN'.

www.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sunday/sport/tom-english-if-a-fan-offered-green-a-grand-to-move-ibrox-a-little-bit-to-the-left-he-d-get-the-movers-in-1-2555918

30 Sep 2012 17:06:30
Ex bears as you know I like a wee flutter now and again, but I also hear wee nuggets of information now and then. Latest is not one bookmaker will take a bet on "Sevco, The Rangers or whatever you call them" FINISHING this season.
Green has money troubles despite what MSM pals are trying to tell ( or not to tell)
If your newco goes into administration, there will be some very embarrassed people within SFA with a lot of awkward questions to ask, most importantly did they receive guaranteed assurances that newco had enough funds to see out season.
This story will gain momentum very shortly. Timalloy ( news at ten)

Away tae f**k, your either telling us that Green won't be there in three years, or, you'll be quite happy to compete in a lesser league with no hope of ever playing Champions League football ever again.

Which is it?

6. I think you're getting mixed up again Timalloy. Every bookie is taking bets on Rangers to finish the season i.e win the title, around 25/1 on the last time I looked. And if you're convinced they won't finish the season and presumably be liquidated before the season ends I'm sure bookies will give you odds on the field - every other team to win Div 3. Maybe 15/1ish. It's your money.

As for anybody taking Green's SPL threat seriously. Haven't you learned by now that he just tells fans whatever a majority of them want to hear at any given time.

BARNEY BEAR

3) Where did I say anything against David Longmuir, I agree totally he should get the wait till judgement on the other two trophies. My point was will Green be so belligerent with an association he is in as to one he isn't in, that's all.

Gaz

Hi tim alloys what kind of tv have you got with all your winnings itl be a 14inch valve operated one with wee dot at end of the night ,now remember not to turn it off till the national anthem is finished or it will damage the flux capacitor ho ho ho einstein doug t.s.o

Great float on stock market proposal..

Dear investor... we will never enter the highest income division in scotland while Green is chairman, and wont therefore qualify for champions league and a bounty of up to £10 million.

roll up roll up... not!

recipe for disaster, or green does not expect to be around for 3 years... wow.

note: most of the companies he stands down from as chairman - seem to have lost a lot of investors value.. ?

Stuff your spl if our titles are stripped from us by a corrupt organization. Bouncy Bouncy

@11 Green isn't chairman of Rangers .

It's all semantics -there won't be an SPL in three years, the leagues are going to be reconstructed and so he can pander to certain aspects of the support by saying he won't let the Gers play in the SPL - get the fans on his side.
JMG

@12: no sense of irony then?

At 2) We've no choice about playing under the corrupt sfa, like your club no other league will take us. Anyway our fans will decide if they want to go back into your celtic/liewell/spl and that will never happen, if for any reason our titles are took off us. M.L.

No 16 think of it this way yous win the 1st refuse to go to spl an spl team goes to 1st theirs one team too many your thinking second place goes up but what if spl throu spite say no we are sticking to the rules yous could end up back in the 3rd ...fuzzy {Ed001's Note - how would they end up back in the 3rd? That makes no sense, there would just be no relegation if the SPL refused to accept a team that finished lower.}

30 Sep 2012 11:03:16
Morning all, and to all you zombies now that the suns up should you all no be back festering in your lairs!

A good 3 points, and the champions still in all competitions entered.

Nice to see after threatening to wipe Moonbeams name from the training ground that charlie is now his BFF to try and buy those offices from him. How many faces does Charlie have, throwing himself at anybody that looks like having money like a right trollop.

Funny as F@#k though !! ..... the more things change the more they stay the same as they say, the stars of the last year are still sniffing about. Now where did Whyte & ticketus go ..... not too far i suspect.

All quiet from the upstarts .. Bomber, Wattie, Jardine ...... all wating to blow up when the title stripping begins.

Be good to have plenty to cheer you up through this winter in between the champions league, SPL and the odd domestic cup.

FEEL THE BEEEEEEEEEELIIIIIIIN !!!!!!!

30 Sep 2012 12:46:35
We'll have plenty to keep us going, don't worry....Celtic beat the bottlers of Fir Park and suddenly Gary Hooper is world class,we tanned them as well(but they lay doon, dint they?)....and we have the 19th instalment of the longest running Champions League sitcom coming up as the Sellik(Europe is our destiny,innit?) go for another away trip brasser....won't be us hiding in our lairs the day after Spartak horse you, unless wee Spadeface McWeedy takes pity on his former employers....but he's ok against wee teams, it's the big ones he disappears against...he had to leave to get out of Broadfoot's pocket .....horosho Bhoys?

30 Sep 2012 14:03:28
@1 - You will be watching though. Its the only way you will get near the champions league, watching us. Anyway well done in just about beating an amatuer team yesterday,you are on a roll.

30 Sep 2012 16:11:00
and well done for being top of a league without us in it.....expect your players to be watching spellbound as well as Spartak give you a 19th nervous breakdown....you can only beat what's in front of you, as all your group opponents would say.

30 Sep 2012 16:50:55
lol at the feeble attempt to criticise the standard of our league, your team arent even top of the fourth tier.

Mikey Bhoy

30 Sep 2012 17:49:49
@4. That's right we're not, but we still beat the SPL leaders last Wednesday.

Re:reply 1: have a look back at the league cup final of 2009; there was a player in another's pocket, but I can assure you, it wasn't McGeady in anyone's pocket. In fact, I think clubfoot was sent off in the end after McGeady terrorised him all day. And that was one of many, I believe. {Ed039's Note - I could terrorise Broadfoot all day and believe me, my best days are behind me)

Bloody hell, no 6. Hardly something to boast about, clubfoot struggling in a game. You need to try harder next time.

@7, he was only stating how Mcgeady handled him with no problem as your own fan and supporter said he was not good for Badfoot. Why must you fans always say Celtic ppl or anyone for that matter that make sense are wrong and you go after them? For you seem to agree with #6 yet have a go at him when you should wake up your own fan should you not? For it is your own fan that you are disagreeing with, how do yous not see this, do you just like going after everyone who isn't with your club no matter how much they might be right?

30 Sep 2012 10:39:19
Was at game yesterday, Forres denied a penalty, had a man sent off referees are just the same no matter what league
(inconsistent ) or should that be consistent whenever Rangers are concerned
Can Can

Or are you just biased, wasn t at game, watching stream. Apparently you really should have had another guy sent off, ref must have let gers down with that non decision, eh?

30 Sep 2012 06:22:32
It would be considerably remiss of me, in what has been a remarkable week, not to mention the considerable support for our club from Celtic FC and their fans, in particular ǝpɐbıɹq uǝǝɹb ǝɥʇ, by way of their zombie related banners.

A zombie of course by definition is undead or not dead depending on your preference.

Considering some have depicted ǝpɐbıɹq uǝǝɹb ǝɥʇ as the hardcore element of the Celtic support, only adds to my appreciation. That they have taken the time for such a public display of solidarity with the Rangers support is quite simply staggering.

Their banner which depicts Rangers as zombies, and thus not dead, finally puts to bed once and for all any accusation that our clubs history and heritage has died. In fact I've been so impressed with it it may well be the basis for a future article Rangers - the club who would not die� so on a personal note I must thank them for their inspiration.

But I would not be doing our friends in ǝpɐbıɹq uǝǝɹb ǝɥʇ justice if I was to stop there. For the banner depicts a lone gunman, which I presume is Stewart Regan, forlornly trying to kill of these zombies to no avail. How good of them to acknowledge that despite the best attempts of the SFA Rangers will not die.

But it would even more remiss of me not to mention the contribution of Celtic FC and their stewards with regard to these banners. For not only did they ensure that these banners were displayed on more than one occasion they allowed them to remain on display. To such an extent in fact that they have incurred the wrath of the SFA. What an honourable sacrifice.

But special mention must be reserved for the Parkhead stewards, whose syncronised turning of the backs as the banner was unfurled was quite simply drilling of the highest order. I'm sure they wont be offended if I say such a synchronised display of drill was on a par with anything I have seen from the best Royal Marines or Guards drill squads. In fact it would come as no surprise to me if an invitation to the Edinburgh Military tattoo was not forthcoming.

But the support from our friends in the east does not end there. For a further banner demanded "Justice for zombies". Even the supporters of our greatest sporting rivals are acknowledging that there is a lack of fairness and balance by those in authority towards our club. Amazing.

But it would appear this may not be the end of it. For the plethora of empty seats at Parkhead a a couple of night ago perhaps suggests some are busy making further banners.

In these difficult times for us as Rangers supporters it is particularly heart warming that rather than support your own team you would spend your time making banners displaying your support for ours.

My sincere thanks to all who have shown their support for our club by way of these banners.

campbell

@OP: you don't think that some of the banners, like your post, include just a touch of irony? It would have been remiss of you not to notice this...

Thanks for your support campbell,your one wish will be granted.more banners on the way.

Brilliant and we can rest assured of their continued support as once our friends from across the city have parked their heads on an idea, they, regardless of validity, will doggedly stick to it. A tradition with such strength, they have gone to the extraordinary length of naming their ground after it.

30 Sep 2012 18:25:43
OP. What an absolute load of p@sh you speak. Stay off the glue.