Rangers Banter Archive October 30 2017

 

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30 Oct 2017 21:43:52
Don't think Chris Coleman would come to the gers but would be a good manager for us. I don't want mcinnes as manager his Aberdeen teams have bottled it in the big games in the last few weeks. I think the new gaffer should definitely be British and I would take Pardew think he would do a good job.



31 Oct 2017 06:20:26
Would remind you Lawbear, . WE don't have a Gareth Bale to carry us along.
Coleman is lucky, he was in the right place at the right time when a couple of decent players arrived on the scene. How's he doing now?



31 Oct 2017 14:05:43
We need a good football manager not a coalman so forget him



30 Oct 2017 20:21:11
What's the thought on Chris Coleman Bears?



30 Oct 2017 20:53:18
Left field but I like a bit of that. Good manager and passionate manager why not, don't want anymore gamble foreign managers now is not the time for that.



30 Oct 2017 21:14:23
Having heard our DOF mark allen today, speaking about how the new manager has to be prepared to embrace and buy into the new structure within rangers, makes me think that graeme murty could well get the nod, to become our new manager/ head coach! He ticks all the boxes, ie. he's already there within the structure and knows all the players senior and youths, he's a very good man man manager, who can motivate his players to run through brick walls for him, he's tactically astute, can change a system during a game to win a game, can study the opposition and set up a system to beat them! I now really do think there's a very good chance that graeme murty will become the new rangers manager/ head coach! Thoughts please fellow bears?



30 Oct 2017 21:57:19
Super i think that although your thinking right i can't see the board doing that, i reckon they know they have to get tried and tested and also somebody that's willing to use the set up, i already think the questions been asked and i'd be very suprised if it wasn't mcinnes.
Murty we have to watch though we don't lose him, plenty of clubs willing to give guys like him a shot at management



30 Oct 2017 23:25:45
Cooper you change your mind everytime you post



30 Oct 2017 23:31:35
Supercoop your post had me laffing mate, "very good man manager, can change a system to win a game, can motivate his players and study opposition and set up system to beat them", wow this guy must be some manager. He has had 7 games . 6 games 1st time round with 50 % win rate and he wins his first game 2nd time round.
Why hasn't he won all his games then if he is capable of all that, mind all of it was against spfl teams.
NO MANAGER in Scotland will be regarded like that unless he wins games in Europe, i surprised because by your analysis Barcelona and Madrid would have moved for him earlier lol.
Its no wonder you are where you are when your basing your next manager on 7 games.



31 Oct 2017 06:32:15
Gosman, If you read my post mate, i'm stating the fact that imo after hearing our DOF speaking, that it wouldn't surprise me at all if graeme murty was named manager/ head coach, under mark allen! As regards to me, i haven't changed my mind at all my friend! I've continually stated on here that we should be aiming bigger and better than derek mcinnes! Delboy is a good manager but there's better candidates out there available to us, that's all i'm saying! We can at least go and pose the question to a big sam allardyce,
harry redknapp, chris coleman, alan pardew and of course a manager i've always rated, irrespective to what anyone thinks, wee billy davies! If we don't ask, we don't get! Sound them out!



31 Oct 2017 08:24:02
Not a chance!



31 Oct 2017 08:31:13
Got to agree, i respect Murty but i think people forget we got beat off ICT and Dundee1st time with him and scraped by Morton and St Jon. everyone seems to be hanging on to the fact he got a draw at the house of horrors but we need a tried and trusted manager who can get us back to basic and beating the rest on a regular basis and let the Selik games take care of themselves



31 Oct 2017 08:34:28
I think we should go with tried and trusted. No more taking chances. Murty would be a good number 2 for now, imo



31 Oct 2017 09:23:51
bit racist in here saying no foreign managers. there are plenty of good foreign managers out there. please don't harp on about english managers being different from foreign. most DO NOT know Scottish football so would come with same issue as foreign managers do. also it has nothing to do with english being first or second language. there are many foreign managers whose knowledge of english would put some of us to shame. so where does the argument stand then. do we want a mediocre scottish manager who knows the scottish game or a foreigner or englishman who both, because of the logic expressed in here, would be a risk by not knowing the scottish game.
english football is different from scottish, fact.



30 Oct 2017 20:11:52
I'm liking the timing of the news of the new scouting network which includes Bomber Brown. We don't currently have a manager but by announcing this network now before we get a new manager says to me the football structure is the most important thing long term. Now any possible manager knows the structure that is now being implemented so he will have to work within this remit while of course having his own ideas. Therefore I feel it is a good move to announce this now rather than appoint a manager first. Moving in right direction hopefully. Onwards and upwards Gers.



30 Oct 2017 20:53:04
I would also think any new manager is going to be interviewed by Allen too see if the potential new manager has the right ideas to go with the structure set up by Allen as everyone has to be pulling in the same direction.

This makes me think there's a good chance it will be McInnes or an Englishman



30 Oct 2017 22:02:50
Frustratedbear1,if you don't mind me asking, what makes you think, that derek mcinnes, could work within the DOF structure mate?



30 Oct 2017 23:16:39
supercoopereleven. what makes u think Derek McInnes couldn't work with DOF? It's all irrelevant anyway. If he gets an interview and offered the job then he will take it in a minute.



31 Oct 2017 05:41:13
Supercoop he's young in terms of manager so he's still learning his trade this should make him adapt well to a different structure also the fact he probably wants the job will make him work around it.

Why would he not want to his life gets made easier he gets to concentrate on running the first team and not running the full club. Obviously he will want assurances when it comes to player recruitment that he has his input but I would think anyone coming in will get that or it won't work out well



31 Oct 2017 08:35:02
McInnes will never do. Too used to being ripped a new one from the dark side. Other managers in the top flight have done much better against them. Murty, Lennon, Wright. Btw I am just making a point. I wouldn't want the Lurgan bigot anywhere near us!



30 Oct 2017 18:33:18
Can't understand the clamour for pardew. The guy is a bellend. In your the bargain he is Mike Ashley's yes man. He's not exactly been successful either has he?



30 Oct 2017 21:10:16
Royster i totally agree i really don't want him as manager, it would end up a very very expensive gamble, he'll get it if ashleys involved somehow thougj



30 Oct 2017 18:07:40
Thought Pardew would be a good shout. However I've just read his wikepadia page and its a bit up and down. He has had some success but also had many failures. Its worth a read (if all true) kind off puts me off him bit, to much baggage. We need low risk, nononsense man that can command the dressing room, take the heat of being the Rangers gaffer with a record of winning leagues/ trophies. For me he must have all of these attributes otherwise it could be another gamble. We need to clone Alex Ferguson.



30 Oct 2017 17:20:32
right guys who is the replacement then i think its between two but throwing murtys name in the hat aswell.

edd can we do a poll to see who we would rather have out of pardew, mcinnes and murty?



{Ed033's Note -


Pardew, McInnes, Murty Poll

30 Oct 2017 18:26:06
Canae understand the fans wanting pardew. The guys an utter bellend. Ps I won't change my tune if we do get him just like I didn't with Barton. Pardew would be a colossal mistake



30 Oct 2017 18:38:22
John Brown



30 Oct 2017 19:32:06
whys McInnes not in this?



31 Oct 2017 08:30:09
I think mcinnes is the best bet at the moment to get us first and foremost to be challenging for the title and if he can bring Mclean, Shinnie ash taylor in it would stabilise us and being realistic get us closer to beating celtic.
People talking about successful managers, tried and tested look no further than Jose at united with all his millions and still struggling.
So I would go for Derek all day long.



31 Oct 2017 08:27:51
Because most of the fans don't want him either. We have higher ambitions for Rangers and hopefully the board does too.



31 Oct 2017 09:27:40
i think with most candidates expressed on theses pages, anyone would split the fans and that can never be good.



01 Nov 2017 06:45:57
Interesting the people saying that they have higher ambitions for rangers are the same people who backed pedro as being the right man and called everyone else negative. Very interesting.



30 Oct 2017 16:15:49
Would love to see Graham potter as our next manager I'm sure someone mentioned him about a month or 2 ago on here and was laughed at? If a dentist can do it with the minnows of Iceland then I reckon potter is our man we don't have a lot of money but I do think we have a good squad potter for me!



30 Oct 2017 17:34:03
yea i posted that the other day have him along with billy reid and murty. would continue with JJ as well.



31 Oct 2017 08:21:26
Potter? that's worse than billy davies. We will never improve if we keep going with experiments. Honestly lads its time to get it together, this is serious.



30 Oct 2017 15:37:19
dony know why people are saying look what big eck did years ago then say mcinnes could do same now.

back then we had an international team with some money to spend. now we have a team which very few players of any quality would wish to come to. hence the need for a big name.

mcinnes record in europe is hopeless and in all honesty he isn't going to attract any better player than what is there. maybe some same old spl players.

stop with this we need micinne big eck etc.

look beyond that rubbish and see sense. just hope the board can actually have sense. its better to have a high profile manager than some didy spl one.



30 Oct 2017 16:18:24
The need for a mcinness type is critical. Scottish football is a different and unique breed and we need someone who knows the league, the opposition, our club and the type of player needed to be successful up here. Mcinness ticks every box. The time for experiments is over



30 Oct 2017 17:38:00
so you are happy to play 2nd or 3rd fiddle then. mcinnes hasn't achieved anything. much rather have potter and reid. atleast they have an all round experience and cost half as much.

we take mcinnes then the sheep take strachan. that would happen. and strachan is far better than mcinnes.



30 Oct 2017 17:38:48
mcinnes is an experiment more than others in my opinion. and a bad one at that



30 Oct 2017 17:31:02
I couldn't put it any better myself.

This whole "we need a blue nose with blue blood. " No wonder we are a laughing stock with this backward mentality.

Big name manager = big name players within reason.

Derek Mcinnes = rubbish players.

Simple



30 Oct 2017 17:58:24
I agree Jamie been saying the same few things to pals at work



30 Oct 2017 19:30:17
Mcinnes ticks a lot of boxes BUT. IS he worth 1.5 mill. I say no. let's give murty johannson and add miller to the coaching staff a chance and spend the money wisely where its needed on the pitch. As the season goes on more managers wkll become available



30 Oct 2017 15:02:44
Sorry lads but there’s no way we should pay 1.5M for mcinnes . we need a big name at ibrox as manger someone with a proven history of winning things, not just getting to the odd final. if we are going to pay for a new manger rather than get one that’s already out a job . me personally would like to see Walter or the van homme dude



30 Oct 2017 15:41:33
Preud Homme has apparently ruled himself out of the job. Walter has done more than enough for us and the club.

We need a good manager, I agree. How do you know that Mcinnes wouldn't be a great manager with our squad and the increased funds?

You shouldn't write him off because Aberdeen have reached their limits.



30 Oct 2017 15:48:03
Before Mcinnes became their manager, Aberdeen finished 9th three seasons on the bounce and 8th the season before he took charge.

They finished 3rd in his first full season and won the league cup then 2nd the following three seasons.



30 Oct 2017 16:08:01
1, I wouldn’t give the sheep the money
2,mcinnes ya never even looked like winning the league
3,his record v the manky mob is shocking

It’s just my opinion lads I just can’t see him doing anything with us

When we beat them in the semi final desmortt shat himself went and paid big bucks for Brenda



30 Oct 2017 16:32:36
The only realistic equivalent to Rodgers currently being named is Alan Pardew, what has he done?

I don't disagree with what you are saying JCgers, just offering a different opinion.



30 Oct 2017 16:53:24
Brendas appointment was nothing to do with the semi. They were always going to push the boat out regardless once we were back at the top league. Scrimped with Ronnie knowing theyd still win the league because we weren't there and saved money for a few seasons to splash out when we were back in the SPL



30 Oct 2017 14:54:46
This talk about Derek McInnes record v them is a red herring. We got big Eck from Hibs after he had done ok with them and Motherwell. He won cups, the Treble, last 16 of CL, and gave us one of the best ever days at Easter road, on helicopter Sunday. This was a guy who had no real connection with us playing wise. Give Derek the job, see us improve and challenge that mob. This is a no brainer, guys!



30 Oct 2017 14:44:45
I pray that this time round the interview panel will consist of people who actually know the game after the last shambles!
They are responsible for the money we lost on duds and the managers pay off
For what it's worth I'd love to see Alex Rae involved in some capacity at ibrox. Is there a chance to raise funds we may go down the stadium naming rights route?



30 Oct 2017 15:38:59
The only problem with that theory is that when football men are asked who would make a good boss they tend to suggest their pals, just look at Walter and his choice of Ally.

I agree though about Alex Rae. All round good guy, enthusastic and knows the game inside out.



30 Oct 2017 17:49:41
yah did well at st mirren.



30 Oct 2017 13:55:52
Rangers have been told they will have to stump up £1.5 million for McInnes! Is he worth it?



30 Oct 2017 14:31:13
In this day and age 1.5 mil is nothing, will he bring a desire to win, will he bring togetherness and fight to the death for the Jersey, he knows scottish football knows what it's about and should fit seemlisly in.
Could be the best 1.5 we've spent or should i say need to spend.
We can't gamble just now we need a manager that will come in for the long run and i think he's worth the risk, others who come in might want to overhaul the squad again which we can't afford, we know as bears that i think we're only a few players from being a good team that can compete,
Well i hope so anyway



30 Oct 2017 15:42:12
True. 1.5 million is less than we paid for Pena, while the manager is the most important man at any club.

I have some doubts about McInnes but I think he's the safest bet.

Whether he would want to come is maybe another matter though.



30 Oct 2017 17:02:53
StmonkeyRFC, . your correct, in this day and age in football 1.5 mill is nothing, but NOT in this country, it IS a big deal especially for our club at this time.



30 Oct 2017 13:27:21
I just hope if it is to be mcinnes he doesn't just make us a clone if his Aberdeen sides



30 Oct 2017 15:39:43
I would definitely take McLean, Shinnie and Logan tho.



30 Oct 2017 20:12:54
I wouldn’t take them to the redhurst for a pint nevermind to ibrox ;-)



30 Oct 2017 12:48:27
Two things I will remember from Saturdays game. Not millers goals. 1. Mccrorie with head in hands after hearts goal . He gave away the free kick but he is on a learning curve and felt the pain - we all learn by our mistakes.
2. Herrera coming on before hardie. Well done Murty for giving an internatiolist his place in pecking order.



30 Oct 2017 12:12:04
Afternoon all. I firmly believe that Mark Allen will make the correct choice or at least have a large voice in who next comes through the doors. I also believe that over a long period of time he will turn things around for the greater good of the club and all of us supporters. As the board said prior to Allen's arrival it was a systemic failure on their part in recruiting PC.



30 Oct 2017 12:32:44
Mark allen might use contacts down south etc get an assistant manager from one if the clubs west brom . leicester. etcetc to be new manager?



30 Oct 2017 12:54:45
Normally a new manager tends to bring their backroom staff to the club they have joined, I cannot see this changing with regards to whomever is chosen for the job at Ibrox. Unless of course there is specifics involved regarding current backroom team/ assistants etc.



30 Oct 2017 13:42:24
Mark Allan should be driving closer links with Man City. Out next Manager should be a future Man City Manager.



30 Oct 2017 14:58:56
Patrick Vieira maybe briggsboy! What do you think mate?



30 oct 2017 09:45:06
van bronchurst would be my first choice he has done a great job in holland and i would bring in numan as his assistant but it looks like its going to be mcinnes



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30 Oct 2017 09:16:06
Long time listener first time caller.
So I read with great interest that Mciness has been spotted with UGG boots on. Here's my story on him:
Silverburn shopping centre last summer I saw the guy. Wearing flip flops, white linen 3/ 4 lengths, and a vest top with the New York skyline on it. Now, I don't know what's worse. This, Ugg boots, or the fact he's got a frankly pathetic record against Celt*c? For me, all 3 add to the fact that this guy is never Rangers class.
Aberdeen are a small club and that he's once played (badly) for us is no reason to favour him.
Our stinking rivals appointed a class manager with pedigree. We cannot for one minute think that Mciness is the answer.



30 Oct 2017 09:35:31
I'm not saying Mcinnes is the answer, but I don't get why people keep bringing his record against Celtic up.

When will people just accept that Celtic are lightyears ahead of Aberdeen and us. If Mcinnes had a good record against that Celtic side with such poor competition, he would already be at a EPL club by now.

Aberdeen have a fraction of what Celtic do fancially, in fact they have a fraction of what we have to spend, so I think to bring up his record against them is pretty poor.



30 Oct 2017 09:57:27
Have you seen some of the gear cristiano ronaldo wears dam make your eyes water must be a crap player then eh



30 Oct 2017 11:44:26
I see a few media outlets reporting this morning that alan pardew has spoken to rangers, regarding our manager's job! Personally i'd have pardew before mcinnes as our manager, every day of the week! Don't know what all other supporters think, but that's my opinion anyway! What do you think yourself ED? Pardew or mcinnes?



30 Oct 2017 12:14:16
Alan Pardew was my preferred option before we appointed Pedro.

I’d prefer Pardew over McInness.

My only reservation with Pardew is his relationship with Mike Ashley.



30 Oct 2017 12:50:03
If macinnis gets the job I would get behind him 100pc but he wouldn't be my choice. I don't think Rodgers would lose any sleep if he became gers boss. If you think of managers out there that would love gers job we could get someone that could move the club forward I'm not sure macinnis is that guy.



30 Oct 2017 13:47:55
In response to the OP. Gooner you having a laugh or wit? Wtf has someone's dress sense got to do with anything? F all, so points one and two are about as useless as point 3. He's done a brilliant job wi Aberdeen, could and maybe should have won the league when deila was there and you can't judge him on his record vs Rodgers, celtic atm are too good for anyone up here yet his Aberdeen team were unlucky not to lift the Scottish Cup last year. The guy deserves his chance at a big club.



30 Oct 2017 14:51:11
Exactly bearmode, we can't compete with celtic with our budget never mind expecting someone to do it with aberdeen's budget. Mcinnes is the answer, look what he has achieved at st johnstone and aberdeen on a pittance, forget bristol as the guy had to sell all of his team because of financial problems. Mcinnes is a proven manager in our league, his teams are very well organised, they have fight and he knows what type of players are required for our league.

He has led aberdeen to three cup finals, won one and lost two to them. He has finished 2nd in the league comfortably three years running, he is currently a comfortable 2nd just now, I believe 3ish points behind them. Never overlook the obvious. Mcinnes will make us fitter, stronger and much harder to beat. Get him now and give him january and summer windows and I guarantee we will be challenging.



30 Oct 2017 09:15:25
Lads i am unsure like most of you regarding the length of time the board will take to appoint a new manager but what if in the next few weeks this happens

Partick - Win
Hamilton - Win
Dundee - Win
Aberdeen - Draw/ Win
Aberdeen - Draw/ Win

The top 3 games if we play like we did on sunday we should win. If we beat aberdeen at ibrox and get a draw up then surely Murty has to be considered?



30 Oct 2017 09:08:42
Not been on for a long long time due to work and what not.

I am bewildered by this current board who are full of fraudsters.

King, Murray, Johnston in particular. King is a liar and a con man, Murray the same old fraudster from the previous board, as for Johnston he has been put on the board twice to find investment from the States and has failed thus far, he's a joke and a glory hunter!

The whole board are guilty of neglect and that goes as far as the manager who it would seem has had no support or guidance. Instead they sit in the stands like pompous fat cats without a clue on how to make a plan and set our club back up!

Pedro cracked, without doubt but he might have had a chance with some management helping him out.

I know most won't agree and think he should be capable on his own, not for me. The pressure here is rare and he found that out. So in the end he was set up for nothing but failure and fail he has.

Mcinnes? No way not for me! Once again if it is him we are chasing mediocracy! And that's what will all get in return.!



30 Oct 2017 14:40:18
sorry g dog i dissagree with u big time .

the board have acted to the way we where playing and listened to most of our fans that wanted pedro gone and a scottish guy in .

they have put us back on a much better track than we where on under green and co.

king is a rangers minded man an wouldn't be here if he wasnt as he isn't making any money from rangers is he?

mcinnes would get us to be better than the rest and the rast would fear us once again once we have done that then we can get to celtic as we will be full of confidence being much better than the rest.

it is not the boards fault as they have done everything they have stated they have done maintenace fixing ibrox up and spen money on the playing squad under warbd and under pedro



30 Oct 2017 08:53:56
Got to agree with Davie Provan - Rangers Need a new Owner. But nobody or company or billionaire even a sugar daddy in sight Mr Provan.



30 Oct 2017 09:18:56
Why? king had put millions into club, he just picked a crap manager!



30 Oct 2017 11:45:25
King didn't pick the manager.



30 Oct 2017 14:41:20
king is the answer not the problem



30 Oct 2017 07:44:36
King n co should approach feynoord and bring gio van bronkhurst back home.



30 Oct 2017 06:53:18
Morning troops. Now I'm ready for the back lash on this but if I take is mcinnes to be the new manager. First of all I'll support him just like any other Rangers manager but for me it just looks like we are happy to settle for second place. I know he has done a good job at Aberdeen and on a budget but that doesn't mean he will do a better job with a bigger budget. Think we need to be setting the bar a bit higher. Nothing against DM, I just can't see it helping us get where we want to be.



30 Oct 2017 08:46:14
Common sense says he would do a better job with a bigger budget. I think we can safely assume he wouldn't have bought one or two of Perdro's costly mistakes.



30 Oct 2017 01:43:24
Aberdeen appear to want 1.5m in compensation, keep your cash guys and get big Eck in instead.



30 Oct 2017 06:16:44
Would be the best 1.5 million we've spent in a long time



30 Oct 2017 09:21:13
Save 1.5m and get alladyce for free.



30 Oct 2017 14:50:07
Big eck with murty as no. 2.



 
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