Rangers Banter Archive May 30 2013

30 May 2013 22:12:46
I am glad that Walter has decided to remain on the board. However, I know that being chairman of a board is the most executive post in any company.
Being a non-executive director holds no authority and as such it makes being chairman a nothing position. To hold any standing the non must be removed or, in my opinion, it is yet another 'gloss over' by those pulling the strings. I feel that the good name of Walter will be tarnished by this latest development. I sincerely hope I am wrong but don't think I am.
billyb.

Billyb, 100% spot on mate. Non execs are not executive managers of a company but advisors.
WS is taking a huge risk. He's putting his name and reputation on a venture hingeing on CG and chums. He knows his name is being used to reel in fans money but he hopes the money will be spent wisely.
We were told costs were £2.4m a month, end of May that's £12m since December. Fans deserve accounts before buying season tickets.

31 May 2013 00:06:13
more exciting news to follow from the Blue Room. We are back on a right footing!
WATP

31 May 2013 00:27:38
Don't worry guys. Walter has a good excuse if things go t*ts up.

The Salmon Lea Bear

Who told you all a fortnight ago that this was.

16 May 2013 09:20:48
A sham and a scam to get STs sold in even bigger numbers than last year when it appears that the good guys and real Rangers men win the day. Everyone is in on this and they're taking the fans for mugs again.

Way I see it, he's got our backs and is doing for the love of the club. Any schiesters won't want him going public if things aren't right, they know they need the fans on side and very suspicious fans we are noe to! I'm glad Walters in this post and hopefully he can become an exec member in time though I have no clue about the legalities of that just like most ordinary fans. LB

Lads (and lassies), could we not leave the Board aside for a wee while. Rangers will always exist on the park and we are going to have a much better team next season. Let's concentrate on that and be positive. What do you think Les?
wee willie

Looks as if the spivs are being paid off one by one. but as Ally said it needs a clean out from top to bottom
looks as if there going to go with another share issue to take us to the spl. and pick off the players as the other clubs flounder round about us
some cost cutting at Auchenhowie
what about Alexander being given player coach duties and give him his extra years he wants he, s been a good servant and its cost cutting?

Can't answer for Les but I could not agree more with your post. Upwards and Onwards and here's to more records being broken both on the park and by the best supporters in the world.

Ozzie Al

To 5. ] Wee willie, yes signings look good to date and the potential looks even better, but it is important that the engine that makes the playing possible is pulling for us. The worry is, that Walter's appointment is yet another gesture to fleece us.
This worry could be sorted out very easily---- audited accounts for the first year's trading sooner rather than later. Or is there something within them that cannot be declared at present. That is just one reason why the chairman must have executive status to enable him to make executive decisions.
[ First year accounts are probably the easiest to produce for any company. ]
billyb

Smith cannot win with some people, he plays a minor role then it is money for nothing, he takes on a major role and he is someones puppet.

Somethings to look forward to.
rangers taking a good shy,
rangers scoring from corners,
the game not going flat as a pancake,
mckay and aird coming in from the wings,
with the help of new midfielders black being all he could be.
Traynor managing news and events,
Wallace becoming a Rangers captain,
The fans standing back and seeing what just happend last season,
and of course the best bit seeing almost every other club go back the way as we move forward
yes it will be great as we pick off other peoples players over the next few years and move on

30 May 2013 20:12:42
The response to Walter smiths appointment is nothing short of disgusting. I like many other fans are sceptical of this regime but I like Walter am Rangers through and through and he would not have taken the position if Rangers would not benefit from it.

Power Ranger {The Ed039's Note - Its Morphin Time)

Walter Smith is a man of dignity. He is a leader who will only do the right thing for Rangers! Not benefit an ego or wallet. As for all the anti Rangers scaremongers keep your keyboards busy! We will have stability under Walter! kjs

How dignified is taking the role after he'd said he'd step down if Murray was removed?

Why has Walter not done what John Brown did? Came clean and told the fans what he knows or even thinks.

Walter smith and dave king sounds good together we will rightly be calling him king walter shortly yeeha {The Ed039's Note - Better than talking about Green and Whyte)

@ 2 There are ways of doing things. MM stepped down not sacked!
Your point is? Which team do you support? kjs

The point is that Smith stated that if Murray was no longer chairman, he'd be out. Murray stepped down before he was removed - writing has been on the wall for weeks.

Why does it matter what team anyone supports? You assume it'll be Celtic but if it was Rangers, you'd say I wasn't a real fan or something like that, just because you don't agree with the point. Try being objective - you might find it refreshing.

Better news than expected today. OK, so Walter and Malcolm Murray basically just changed positions but at least they're both still there.

The only problem I foresee is that most fans will now be willing to renew season tickets but what happens if once the money is in Smith and Murray get the heave?

Therefore I'm personally still going to pay game by game.

#6
WS did not say that at all.
He said if MM was forced out he would resign.
MM spoke to his family about stepping down and walking away, and they told him not to do it. He remains on the board, and voted for Walter as chairman.
Anyone who posts bile like the OP of the previous post did about WS, is definitely not a Rangers supporter. Just another attempt at negativity from the KDS brigade. You should try looking around you mate, our enemies are vast in number and have been battering their keyboards furiously this week. They are more upset about the PM investigation giving Rangers the all clear, because they want everything out in the open, not for integrity sake, they just want us to die off completely!
The moral of the story is,. Let's be careful out there.
P. O. B. @Hillstreetblues. com

Remember your new chairman has quoted"I wish the new rangers football club all the best". Your head of communications quoted "rangers are a new club, no matter how you try too dress it up". 1 year on& let's here the spin about those quotes. sm

@5 MM was pushed out mate! Wake the feck up will ya!

@1 yeah we seen how dignified he is after his youtube experience with your pal chick! Your blinkered glasses are getting you down sh. t creek again and it is so funny watching :-)

@3 Because unlike John Brown Walter has enough savvy to not do anything to jeopardise his place at the club. I've no doubt Brown is as passionate about Rangers as Walter but where is Brown now in terms of being able to influence decisions at Rangers? Nowhere, that's where. Walters playing chess just now and in my mind he's done more than enough for Rangers over the years for us to give him a bit of respect and time.

The non-executive chairman's duties are typically limited to matters directly related to the board, such as:[28]

Chairing the meetings of the board.
Organizing and coordinating the board's activities, such as by setting its annual agenda.
Reviewing and evaluating the performance of the CEO and the other board members.
making the tea.

@2 the board voted unanimously that Murray had to go, that means everybody on the board yes including Walter voted him out

JG

N14 mm is still on the board

@8 What a great post so many sleekit, underhand imposters on this site spreading their bile and hatred through scare tactics and ill informed and totally incorrect rumor spreading. We are on the way back and judging by the response from these misguided souls mentioned above, they are afraid of what's about to happen. The rangers mice have had enough and are just about to morph into the lions again to bite the butts of those who have wished evil upon them.

Congratulations to Water on his new appointment. You are the true statesman of Scottish football.

Ozzie Al

@15 let me expand just for you

Out of his role as chairman

better?

JG

Bile is what John Terry said to Ferdinand - there's nothing like that on here. I think it's time to reconsider your accusations. The Eds don't allow 'bile' on here, and accusing others you don't agree with as being Celtic fans or not 'proper' Rangers fans is nonsense. Ozzie Al is just as bad. It goes to show how incapable you, and others like you, are of engaging in meaningful debate - it's easier to ingratiate yourself to those who agree with you and to post nonsensical accusations than actually post any sensible replies.

Incidentally, the PM investigation only looked into the connection with Sevco 5088 - we all knew there was no connection there.

1903

30 May 2013 17:43:03
Arnold Peralta deal close to completion should be done by the weekend. Don't be surprise to have another couple of signings completed by 10th June. One being Chris Humphrey the other a defender from the SPL who has played against us a few times. I am very pleased to see Sir Walter taking over as Chairman certainly someone who I have the utmost respect for. I now hope the in fighting between the other board members will settle down, and we can focus on getting back to the very top of the Scottish game. Warning to Celtic if you think we are just going to roll over and let you try and get the Treble next year without a serious challenge then you are very must mistaken. Look after our trophies won't you because we will to back to collect them very soon. We Are The People

Getting carried with yourself. Celtic are miles ahead on and off the park.

Mate your epilogue was doing just fine but to be honest I am getting a wee bit sick of bringing Selic into our forum. Forget sbout them. let's concentrait on our bears and all will work out if we devote our time, money and energy towards them mate.

30 May 2013 16:22:35
Two points. in the official statement that walter smith has been appointed non executive chairman of the board. does that mean he can't make decisions and is only a mouthpiece for green and co? second point is the investigation. it says based on evidence available, but if whyte didn't co-operate, and green and ahmed weren't much better, there wouldn't be any evidence, unless they looked in ahmed's mother's account. dave & hugh

The most worrying fact of the statement was the fact that they said whyte wasn't part of sevco Scotland or rangers but the whole point was that whyte said he was director of sevco 5088 which is the company that had the exclusive rights to buy from d&p before green changed to sevco Scotland so the investigation was a total waste of time and our money

First point, his job is to police the Executive Board, he isn"t running the club, Mather and Co are. Second point, no mention of SEVCO 5088 etc and as you said, without co-operation of relevant parties the outcome is qualified.

Whyte. Compulsive Liar and failed buisness man. Why would we statt worryong about this nut job. LOSER LOSER LOSER. I have no fear worries or concerns for this guy.

N1 the investigation was to look into shytes claim it was looked into by experts in this very subject they said whyte is talkin rubbisht that's good enough for the people that count so if its good enough for them its good enough for us let whyte say as he wants after all talks cheap tmwnn

@4 So when Mr Murray said for every £5 they spend we will spend £10 that was good enough for you and look what happened with that, the wool get's pulled again.
Tam

@4 mate the investigation was limited to sevco Scotland and rangers nothing to do with sevco 5088 which whyte says he's a director of and this was the company who had preferred bidders status to buy from d&p not f*kn sevco Scotland so you not ask yourself why green ahmad and whyte didn't help with the investigation something is going on

30 May 2013 15:46:06
so it seems getting spl players into rangers has not made us the fans run and buy season tickets now there trying pull another stunt by making walter smith the chairman this is to sell season tickets without a doubt do not be fooled into handing our cash over again what happend to stadium renaming shirt sponsor was ment be overhaul of scouting and coaching new club shop and does green still intend to sell to easdale brother don't want them anywer near our club all these questions need to be answerd

Season tots are not on sale you person

JG

Op do you think an honest rangers man would have taken this position if it was bad for the club NO CHANCE I for one was and still is megga glad to have ws at the club during our times of trouble tmwnn

30 May 2013 15:39:54
Walter Smith has been officially appointed Non-Executive Chairman of the Board!

No more shall we be a laughing stock, eve Celtic fans have been walking up to me today saying well its been funny while it lasted but now Walter will lead you back to the SPL and we can get on with things and Scottish football can stop being a laughing stock.

Hes swapped seats with murray, no big deal tbh. season ticket renewals must be due soon.

30 May 2013 15:07:05
The Bears to play Sheff wed
in July official website
billy h

30 May 2013 13:43:21
That's more like it Rangers! The only person within Ibrox we can really trust. Time to speak for us all Walter!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-legend-walter-smith-set-1921064

30 May 2013 12:10:07
Blackthorns deal has fallend through. Deal or No Deal? No Deal.

I hope the deal has fell through rangers are better than that we will get a better deal

30 May 2013 09:24:43
Walter to be named chairman of the club today. hopefully with the messiah at the helm this will bring much needed stability and stop the bickering within the boardroom.

On another note could any of my fellow fans assist. it is my sons birthday in August and I was looking how he could lead the teams out at ibrox. any help much appreciated.

You are deluded. walter smith is part of the problem not the answer. he is a leech we can't get rid of. he is treated as a hero yet he is part of the old regime who almost destroyed the club.
i for one do not want to see martin bain etc etc back.

Well it's Capt Smith is at the Helm, it reminds me of another Capt Smith who had an illustrious career then he took the helm of the Titanic and well the rest is history.

Wish it was the manager's role he was taken, take it this is allys job safe again? No way Walter Smith will ever sack him.

Its easy for your son to lead the team out. Just play better than Black and be less injury prone than McCulloch!

Dawdle!

Bluegenius

Does "The Messiah" have any major business acumen to take on such a lofty position ( other than spending ) or is it to sell S/Tkts?

Celtic fans canny get over walter is there the legend will save the gers the one and only walter smith 9 in a row

@6 We Celtic fans don't deny Walter is a Legend as a football manager, but Rangers is a business and a business person is needed to help it grow. It pointless to give him a job that has no power and he is seen as just a figurehead to get bums on seats.

N7 walter smiths role is now to see the boardroom is being run properly no lnfighting etc bringing money bussiness to club is the ceo mans job

30 May 2013 09:15:10
P. O. B/Ed/Eastbear and anyone else who's followed this thread. Further emails shown below:
MY EMAIL:
Hi ******,

You may remember I contacted you a couple of weeks ago regarding uniting the Rangers support, Joining the RST and asking for permission to post your responses to my questions on a fans forum.
First of all I would ask you to look out for my membership application coming in on Friday (payday!). I am keen to be part of something bigger to save our club.
You had previously stated that you would look to allow me to post responses to my emails. You said you would look out for my membership first of all and I agreed I would remove your name (and correct typos) for the sake of privacy.

I just wanted to let you know that after continued requests from fellow supporters interested in joining the RST I have posted my emails and some of your responses. I have made sure that I removed your name and my name from the postings but I felt with todays statements from various Rangers supporters groups the time is right to encourage other fans to join the RST and fight for our club.

I feel I have to apologise for not waiting to post until I had joined and you had responded to my request.
That said, there is nothing in the emails that would cause you or the RST any problems, in fact; your responses to my questions were both honest and inspiring. I felt it was important at this time for fellow supporters to see that the RST are capable of representing the views of the wider Rangers support; so out of genuine concern of the future of our club I took the decision to try and galvanise the supporters by using our emails.

I hope that this step will help the RST to gain a good few more members, one of which will be me on Friday.

Thanks again and good luck to us all in righting the wrongs at our club

All the best

*******
RST RESPONSE
Hello ******

How could I forget you! I don't have a problem with what you have done, I am, like you a life long Rangers supporter and as I said my father before me. There is a long way to go but it is an encouraging sign that varying groups are now possibly at last, realising that we are stronger together. By all means, they should have their own identities and continue to do so.

Thank you for the compliment on my answers, I would like to think I am honest in all the answers I give to my fellow Teddy Bears. If ever there was a time for us all to stick together, it is now and over the last 18 months.

I am here because Rangers is my club, anything I can do, however little, is in my opinion important. I once read a quote, I think was by Churchill which stated ' Opportunity often comes disguised in the form of misfortune or temporary defeat'

We have an opportunity now and I feel we should be taking it. The road will be long but this club is not going away nor, are our fans.

Let me know how it goes on Friday. Register on the site on the on-screen box. Enter your name, create a user name and create a custom password and enter your current email address. You will then be able to log in to the site and complete your application by choosing your preferred payment package and completing a personal portfolio which you can alter and upgrade at any time yourself. This is good if you for example change your email address or other contact details.

Good luck and good to hear from you again.

Regards

*******
MY REPLY

Thanks again,

It may not be much but by making contact with you, posting emails and joining up I at least feel like I'm doing something.
I'd like to think that by my actions a few more bears will take this little step forward rather than just complaining on fans forums.

I'll email you Friday after I've paid my subs.

All the best

*******

30 May 2013 08:45:35
What about Gavin Rae for one season?

30 May 2013 08:06:31
Walter smiths the new rangers chairman announced this morning plus green had no involvement with whyte announced to the stock exchange both were on the news on radio clyde this morning. hopefully whyte disappears as quickly as he appeared and we hear no more but I doubt it BROGIE 82

So now Walters the chairman does this mean we'll get to see the who owns ibrox and Murray park and publish how much money we've got in bank or is Walter taken the role to make sure we buy the season tickets also looks like whyte was talkin sh*t again a just hope Walters got the balls to answer the questions the fans have been askin and not just bs us

Well I'm definitely getting a season ticket now.

NOT

Great timing, Season ticket renewals coming up. Can't help but think this is for us to put our hard earned cash back in AGAIN

Yeh SB must be due to go on sale let's role out a legend.

The bear 82 - as I posted previously, unless the prospectus was a totally misleading document then RFIC own the statdium after transferring the assets of RFCL

this is copied and pasted from section B3 of the prospectus

"The Club’s primary asset is Ibrox Stadium, situated 2.5 miles south-west of Glasgow city centre and has been home to the Club since 1899. The all-seated 50, 987 capacity stadium is owned by RFCL and houses a retail outlet, restaurants, function rooms and executive suites. "

I do agree its time for the chairman to confirm if the above is true or if those of us who bought shares, did so on the basis of a false document

JG

@jg well awrite mate it's in the prospectus then wattie should have no probs showing the actual deeds to the media or even straight to us the fans but I think we'll see or hear nothing just looks like give the chairman job to smith and the fans will buy s/t we still need to know this and also how much money is in the bank and a clear plan for the future so I hope for our sake this happens before they want our s/t money or we could get shafted again