Rangers Banter Archive March 30 2013

30 Mar 2013 21:43:11
Really hope CG reads this site, because here is a message /fact if he does not change Ally and others he will see attendances and his share value dramatically reduced. There is a limit to the dross that we will pay for, and that limit has been reached.

Doubt he'll be reading it tonight. He'll be sat back with a malt & a cigar celebrating.


The fact that he's just earned a £360,000 bonus.

You'll probably find he's punted a good few of his shares when the prices were high.

Players run thiers guts out and can make £1million in 4 years at ibrox, while Green sits in his chair, and gets £4million in salary for 4 years (+ bonuses). no wonder its his pension.

And he still owns 8% of shares. which may be worth nothing or £10m

green laughing all the way to the bank, I think ticketus have security on ibrox deeds. once that's paid off, green gets ibrox (£30 million). payoff

but what do I know.

30 Mar 2013 20:52:21
loving it they just can't get enough of the biggest team in scotland. another throphy in the bag WATP 54 +1 we welcome the chase
trueblue

Op 54 add one equals 55 that is the way it will read in the history books 55 league tittles cheers

Easy pleased if you can celebrate that mince!

90% of true rangers fans are disgusted by the rubbish they are watching week in week out, But hey there is always a trueblue! who NEEDS something to celebrate in ally he trusts.

@1. It actually does not count as a league title. Only the top leagues in the country are totalled. I think ED cleared this up last week.

First team ever to be booed off the park the day they win their league. toppo.

@1 As 4) says, Ed cleared this up but some people live in their own little world and see things as they want it to be, rather than it is.

Ed said it does not count as a championship. It does however count as a league title. 55 and counting

30 Mar 2013 21:23:20
It's a lot more comfortable standing on a cold day like today. If we got the chance where would we put the standing room at Ibrox? just wondering.
Black was the go-to man today but except for a few long balls he just pushed the ball sideways or backwards to someone in a similar position - created nothing. He just won't do. Please somebody, do something. And can I ask, what is Ian Durrant's position at the club? Coach?
wee willie

Black is an imposter. Poses at every pass he hits, watch his wee flick of the arm. Overrated.

30 Mar 2013 19:43:10
Ok guys league won, but let us just hope we now see people[no need for names] have the ba. s to now step down and realise they are not the ones to take us forward, and those who do not please let us have Green pay them off.

30 Mar 2013 18:15:41
You couldn't make this stuff up, clyde1 stating that kris boyd is on rangers radar for next season. we are a complete joke, their are plenty of young strikers in div1/2 who would burst a gut to represent the gers but no ally wants a slowl overweight dud like boyd-big changes are essential at ibrox including management!

It is getting ridiculous. Both Boyd and Daly have no sell on value at all. This is the wrong road to go down. If they go on three year deals at £3k p/w, a low estimate, that's close to £1m pounds out the door before bonus etc.

Must be true eh? As for Daly, agree with you, no sell on value, We need to stop looking at guys towards end of their careers.

In all seriousness though, let's not take every rumour as gospel, wait and see what happens.

1 has it spot on. celtic have shown no interest in daly for that very reason.

Celtic have shown no intrest in daley because he's cack your welcome tp him plus signing for the rangers automatically means a player has no sell on value because if they were worth anything in the first place they wouldn't go anywhere near ibrox not exactly known for improving players are you
thommyj

30 Mar 2013 17:29:20
it will be good to get law, bell and daly in the summer.

30 Mar 2013 16:56:06
Elgin result means champs of DIV3.

onwards and upwards.

Yes but wish felt better about the team, the manager, the club's state and on and on. Sorry to be negative on a day which should bring joy!

I thought come this day i, d be happy that we fought ourselves out of a bad situation. not more confused as to what is happening to my club
were champions but no further forward. Les

30 Mar 2013 16:51:04
Glasgow Rangers 3rd Division Champions! 55 And Counting, let's Enjoy The Moment. Well Done Ally And The Team, It Wasn't Great, But We've Got There In The End.

Yep - it might not have been pretty but it's the 55th title in our glorious history

Yes, well done but the fans were the stars not the manager or the players. Think what they were playing against (no disrespect)---part timers, some gifted but paid a fraction of our lot. Yes it wasn't great!

If the old history counts surely it's 54 league titles plus one division 3 title?

If not, then as a Liverpool fan, I'm delighted that my club has won more titles than Man United. I'm sure no-one will slate me for believing this.

It wasn't great. That's an under statement and if your happy with all that then heaven help u

No, no, no. I am a die hard but this cannot be counted as 55. This is not the title of champions this is a petty insignificant title.

Wrong its 55 and counting next season 56 {The Ed039's Note - OK children, calm down)

@7: so all leagues count the same then? Try telling them that in England lol

N7 that's what it will say in the history books onward and upward mon the bears cheers {The Ed039's Note - Can anybody find me a copy of these history books folk speak of, they arent available in WH Smith)

Theres only the wee red book as far as I know ed, if its still going.

30 Mar 2013 16:11:53
Mcoist, durrant, McDowell. Stood on that touch line and never budged watching that dross. Absolute joke.

Ally quoted that we weren't chasing domestic cups this season. So why would you go and sign the likes of

Black
Sandaza
Temps
Shiels
Wallace
Alexander

Could have got a decent team together from the lower divisions that wouldn't even have cost half the wage bill they are. Wallace and big jig is are the only ones I have seen this season that deserves to wear the jersey.

Can't even put 2 passes together.

Ally out.
McDowell to producing youth talent as he did with celtic and done a good job of it.
Durrant. Doesn't look interested

No sure who you have been watching then because Andy Little has had a great a season. Lewis McLeod was playing well to until he was injured. Although Templeton hasn't been the most consistent he has scored quite a few important goals. I think the squad as a whole would do better if they were coached properly. {The Ed039's Note - There were people slating Andy Little earlier in the week, I think he has been our best player and he is sorely missed when he is unavailable which has been too often for my liking, and Lewis McLeod has also been a big miss since he got injured)

if you were a Gers fan you would know Wallace and Alexander have been at Rangers and not signed this year as you say. Doh.

Good post ed 2 centre backs a midfielder and another striker beside little and wel do fine

28 Mar 2013 22:21:01
Ed, I know it's all over and done with but I've always been surprised that the Singaporeans didn't make any noise at all regarding their £26.5m vanishing without any repayment. (Ticketus). They could have got a court order to stop D&P selling the assets for £5.5m (curiously similar figure to the D&P fees).
But they didn't do a thing. These guys just don't walk away from losing money like that. Did we ever find out who blue pitch holdings were?
And what was Lloyd's part in it all? They got their £18m and walked away, albeit to still manage Murray group, being owed huge sums of money (£400m?) from the masterton BoS giveaway days. {The Ed039's Note - Its a strange one, last I heard they were going to chase Whyte through the courts as he had made personal guarantees against this money. But at the end of the day the company they took that out with has been liquidated and sold and there isnt really anything they can do about it apart from negotiating with the liquidators)

It was stated that Whyte had guaranteed money, and they are taking him to court. What will come out of this is that Whyte will end up bankrupt, what a shame that would be.

My guess is whyte hold security over ibrox (hence why green won't show deeds) and if ticketus win - whyte will hand over that security on ibrox.

If whyte wins case he wins £30m, if he loses so what. no loose gamble which costs him £2. with our legal system its 50-50 he might wint £30m of lose £2.

if you in his position would you go for it win odds like that?

Same for ticketus - 50-50 they win deeds to ibrox. for thier original £22 million punt.

30 Mar 2013 15:39:39
i really fear for us now, the manager has lost it big time, even cg, who knows f all about management in footbll terms must know ally I making a fool of himself, and all of us,, clean sheets? U cudnt make it up, please take a bow ally and let sumone else take over, whatthe fxxk does walter think of this latest humiliation?, I'm really worried about any news coming from ibrox, please god its a change of manager, and not any financial problems, tommyblue

What will walter think of this latest humilation? well considering walter's tactics and formations are now what ally has aspired too I don't think walter will think much.

The football we played under walter was boring too watch and the football we now play under ally is boring and absolutely attrocious.

Walters answer = "give Ally more money"

Get ally and Walter out of there.

do you think ally will win the trophys sir walter did walter was the best manager we ever had

@3. wrong, walter smith was given more money than any other manager in scottish history. he was shown up at everton. what we see now is how his system works when you can't throw the cheque book around, even though ally has statistically the most money over his rivals in all football history. (except maybe the army team system in communist countries).

31 Mar 2013 12:44:17
op here, do u not remember walters teams who won every league title, and most cups, and were cheated out of a champions league final place? do u not remember Gazza, laudrup, coisty, francis, gough, butcher, goram, klos, steven, stevens, hately, miko etc, BORING?, itl do for me, I loved it, Tommyblue

30 Mar 2013 15:06:24
Ally has destroyed all the feel good about the fans helping keep us afloat, destroyed it all, by not being fit to run a football team where is the improvement. none
its went back the way. The fans stepped up to the plate and helped the club. for what. this, is this what I put my hand in my pocket for. Ally you, ve slapped the fans in the face, fans that wanted to help our club
and Walter you put this guy forward to run this club
well Walter what have you to say to this, come on Walter tell us what Ally can bring to the table?

Walter not the answer either. Go for a young manager like Derek Adams

I never thot i'd criticise walter, but ure rite m8. This is total humiliation now, celtic fans don't even laugh at us anymore, ally has taken us to depths that they expect us to lose to teams like montrose, and we should have lost, walter is deafeningly quiet, why? What is going on, is our club being run into the ground? Do we need to. Slaughter ally at ibrox to make him see what he, s doing? I don't want to ruin his reputation, but it will happen if he doesn't go soon,, get your medal and go please ally, before it turns very nasty, tommyblue

If walter had these players he would have won the league by 40 points

Op its a well known fact walter smith told ally not to take the job its obvios ws knew the rubbish was ready to hit the fan parden the pun that's probably why ws walked away cheers

You say Derek Adams but Alan Johnston at Queen Of The South has done a terrific job

30 Mar 2013 14:52:41
ally was legend now an leg-end.

30 Mar 2013 14:36:22
how many big name stars do Queen of the South have?
How many Central American imports do they have?

How many big wage earners do they have?

But they DO have balls and a championship to show for their talents.

Wee Bill

30 Mar 2013 14:13:49
Ally heres an idea with 20 minutes to go you take off one striker and put on another. Why not take off Black play three in the middle and play Naismith up front with Hemmings. Also why do we need three defensive midfielders? We really miss MacLeod in that midfield. Little is also greatly missed but we should have enough to beat montrose who deserved a point for the way they defended and attacked. Not good enough. Sad bear

Montrose deserved 3 points mate, the goal they had disallowed was legit, absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Montrose deserved 3 points for the way they played The rangers off the park!
And let's not forget, another perfectly legal goal chopped off!

Well done Montrose!

I would have taken Faure off but he did such a good job of hiding McCoist probably forgot he was on

Montrose didn't deserve to win their goalie saved them

Goal disalowed for foul on keeper montrose were saved by their keeper

@4, isn't a goalie's job to save?
Al

30 Mar 2013 14:12:45
Definition of insanity- Repeating the same process over and over and expecting different outcomes.

Has Ally lost it? Not only is he the worst manager I've seen, he seems to be stubborn and thick skinned. If he's managing my team next season I'm finished.

Think you will find quite a few won't renew. The fans have been superb but have been cheated by the players and the most inept manager in the clubs history. Didn't think it was possible for someone who has played the game to be as clueless.

30 Mar 2013 13:49:38
This is it, I will not be back at Ibrox until Ally goes, he is totally clueless. I have had more enjoyable dentist visits than watching this. Enough is enough, I have been a season ticket holder for forty years, not renewing.

30 Mar 2013 13:57:47
Yet another shocking performance and like the previous week lucky to get a draw. McCoist is stumbling from one embarrassment to the next. No imagination no creativity and one paced throughout. The players and management are cheating the fans and it's time Green stepped in and got rid of McCoist. The players have clearly stopped playing for him and already fans have stopped attending matches.

30 Mar 2013 13:30:33
Grrr. the more I see this, the more things bother me.

Why are we only trying the same free kick over and over. Okay, we came close once, but we've had them blocked numerous times. Do we really need 3 or 4 players standing over the ball?

For the past few seasons it's been more prevalent. this habit of wearing long sleeved underarmour with a short sleeved shirt. It looks so amateurish! If they want to wear their undies. wear a long sleeved jersey to hide that fact!

Again, playing 4-5-1 against part-timers.

Ally, take control of this lot. And stop coaching a regimented style. The players need to think for themselves on the pitch, not think only one way!

Do you think the rangers have enough strips for everyone to get a choice on length of sleeve. They will all be short sleeve next season the amount of times thet get washed

Op black tucks shirt in then pulls shorts up very high like mothers do with weans I cringe when I see him doing so

30 Mar 2013 12:36:22
On the BBC's Scotland page, under business news, there is an article that states that league attendances for Scottish teams this season are UP by 5%.

Okay is the myth now finally slain?

Gaz

What a lot of s##t you do post Gas. Your Spl attendances are down from an average 13861 to 9901. the only league that is showing better attendances is the third div because of Rangers attendance 475 last year to 5457 this year. don't let the facts get in your way.

That same article states:

The report quotes figures from broadcaster ESPN showing SPL average attendances have fallen from 13, 861 to 9, 901, whereas the top flight of English football has seen rising numbers.

The survey covers the top three divisions in Scotland, excluding the bottom league in which Rangers has been playing this season.

However, it shows that the average gate in that bottom division has risen sharply from 475 last year to 5, 457 this season, much of that explained by high attendances at Ibrox.

Only read what you want to, then stop?

Perhaps the tv have got it wrong again? Empty seats don't lie.

Blueice

So you believe everything the spl and tv say then?

@1) I said league attendances for Scottish teams, did I say SPL? No. Did I say division 3? No. I said for Scottish teams.

@2) My we are sneaky, you accuse me of only reading what I want and then stop and then what do you do? Cut the article early before the bottom paragraph.

"The survey covers the top three divisions in Scotland, excluding the bottom league in which Rangers has been playing this season.

However, it shows that the average gate in that bottom division has risen sharply from 475 last year to 5, 457 this season, much of that explained by high attendances at Ibrox.

Over all the leagues, total attendance is up this season by 5%, whereas the total has fallen in English leagues, due to lower attendances in the two divisions below the Premiership and Championship. "

See the bit where it says OVER ALL and TOTAL ATTENDANCES ARE UP, focus on that, eh?

Gaz

@4) ESPN said the score today was Montrose 0 Rangers 0, should I believe that or did they make that up too?

Gaz

The average is down because the rangers attendance isn't counted. The 3rd is up for same reason

Another way to look at this is, gates down 4 thousand on last season, gates up by 5 000 in the SFL from last season! So let's a look at it, the demise of oldco put Potential gates in SPL down by 5000, but in fact they are only down by 4000! Therefore gates are actually up, so I guess you only look at it through your blue tinted glasses to fit your doom and gloom predictions! But I guess that is just wasted on your NEW clubs supporters isn't it!

I've just realised some of your ire is perhaps inferring that I intentionally failed to acknowledge Rangers part in that overall rise, I was looking at all 42 teams and merely stating, as the article does, that attendances were up. It goes without saying that due to Rangers position the SPL would be down and division three up. How many times in here have I said ALL 10 clubs in division 3 would be up, numerous times. So of course these figures are in no small part due to Rangers fans efforts and
obviously other fans too.

But if you want further praise then I'm happy to oblige and acknowledge.

Well done thousands and thousands of Rangers fans for turning up in your droves so that you could disprove the doom-monger thousands and thousands of Rangers fans wrong.

There, happy to give credit where its due :)

Gaz

@7 No Gaz, should be 1-0 but Montrose goal knocked off. No penalty today either. My, we needed one today

Yup 10) didn't see much up with the goal myself but you so much as sneeze in a goalies direction these days and it's a foul. Ref had no concept of playing advantage either, both teams suffered from that with him. I think he decided early doors he was playing it safe today and calling every non penalty box marginal foul for both teams.

Gaz

The sad fact is that the number of fans turning out to see scotlands premier teams competing is dwindling and dwindling fast. I reckon over the course of the season there is AT LEAST ONE MILLION LESS FANS attemding spl matches this season.

That so called drop in spl attendances is wholly explained by rangers fc going bust. the difference in total attendances is appx. 800,000. divide that by 18 and you get an approximation of rangers attendance during their last season. overall the situation is, no change.

@12) That is not the point I made nor really what is the concern, bottom line is where 100 fans went to a game last season this year it is 105, across the whole of Scottish football and it does put a dampener in the Scottish football is dead claims of the doom and gloom mongers. Irony of irony, the one team in administration since Rangers began in div 3 is in neither division and therefore wasn't directly impacted by it at all.

Gaz

Spl average attendance is down 5,000 but the third div is up 5,000.
So there it is rangers are in div3 and their fans Are there also.
No surprise.
Why the emotion? No money has left Scottish football indeed grass roots is benefitting and thriving.

Well said @15). Arguably a redistribution of wealth to some degree.

Gaz

30 Mar 2013 09:00:56
Heres a question, if Rangers had gone in to Div 1, where would they be? 20 points clear at the top? I don't think so.

If rangers were in div 1 I don't think the players that left would have. So 20 points clear at least.

Blueice

Spot on bluenose. We keep hearing if we stayed in the spl we would be fighting relegation, and we here how green claimed he would sign players from the euros etc.

Facts are that if we had stayed in the spl we would of kept most of the backbone of the team.
And of course green would of considered free transfers of international players. But, we aren't in the spl, so we shouldn't and didn't try to sign them. Shame the facts are masked why the celtic fans who love to jump on the green bandwagon