Rangers Banter Archive June 30 2014

30 Jun 2014 20:47:16
Ed I would just like to announce the first completely incorrect post award for June. Normally you see it is about opinions and you will have the worryingly numerous Super Ally men posting about what a good job their hero is doing and the occasional poster like myself who completely disagrees with that. But these are opinions and ultimately cannot be proved 100% one way or another.

But the completely wrong post which will go to a nameless poster to save his blushes was confirmed by the accused today a certain Mr Louis Suarez "The truth is that my colleague Giorgio Chiellini suffered the physical result of a bite in the collision he suffered with me"

The award winning nameless poster wrote correctly in the first part of his post "I must be the only person who has watched this several times and does not believe this was an intentional bite attack"- YES MATE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE


But followed this up incorrectly "but I see it as a failed Glasgow Kiss"

Reminds me of my favourite winch Sue Perb well done nameless poster the best laugh of the month

Thats the only glasgow kiss that could have ended up as a nooky badge eh lol

30 Jun 2014 22:15:29
Couldn't agree more, I wrote days ago that the animal should be locked up, and a long with bbab, another guy said it wasn't a bite,?? Couldn't make it up could you, wonder how he feels now

Tommy45?

You are deluded m8 - never said it was not a bite.

My part in the discussion was to raise the issue that an elbow in the face / head was just as serious, and that the guy needed help not slagging off.

The OP sums it up - beware if you have an opinion that is not in common with popular consensus - says more about the OP than it does about the person he is denigrating, and you.

This site is all about freedom of speech with fellow bears. I was not aware that you need to be careful in what you post in case you offended someone with a different opinion.

We live in a democracy where opinions are encouraged not derision.

01 Jul 2014 10:47:24
@3 do you come with a government health warning? Never have I come across such a windbag with such a complete sense of humour bypass. Levity ya bufoon levity. So many words but so little to say. Och I will wait till the new season starts.

When your humour comes at the expense of someone else, then it is not humour, it is derision and humiliation.

Read your post again and put yourself in the place of the recipient.

Where you hoping for everyone to come and slag him off as well.

I have a fantastic sense of humour, and like nothing else than to have a wee bit of banter, in the pub or with my mates - knowing what is right and what is wrong makes it funny or not!

01 Jul 2014 12:02:00
@bbb, I never ment you said it wasn't a bite pal, let's calm down a wee bit here eh, it was another guy who said it wasn't a bite, not you, I just found the comparison of elbowing Simone and actually biting someone was not right, anyway as you correctly say m8, its all about opinions, and we, re all Bluenoses, hopefully, so have a nice day m8

There is very little difference in the level of violence between a bite and an elbow.

There is a large moral/behavioural difference. In a competitive, physical sport I expect to be elbowed/kicked and a bit of verbal (doesn't mean it's ok but I do expect it). However there is something wrong with an adult male who bites other men. There's a psychological imbalance.

I work in an industry where physical violence is a daily risk and deal with it without concern. However the decision to bite another human, be it conscious or subconscious, is a sign of a deeper issue.
Yes punish a player for an intentional elbow but if both happened to me I would want the person who bit me to receive a far stricter punishment than an elbow.

Bluegenius very well put mate an my opinion is the exact same as your own

30 Jun 2014 16:30:28
I agree, the slagging of McCoist is unrealistic and unhelpful, he has held the club together and deserves a statue in his honour. I think the Boyd signing is fantastic and I am looking forward to the championship season. People talk about giving youth a chance but you need to get the right guys in now to get us to the premiership and set up a future for the youths and the club as a whole.

J scott, The 'slagging' as you call it of Ally is not unrealistic, but may be unhelpful. At the end of the day he is a very poor manager and that will never change. However, the way we are going, with signings, is the easy option and a fortune could have been saved had we blooded the youngsters. Don't disagree with a blend of both but our balance is wrong.

Some of the criticism has been unrealistic. Blooding young players is easier said than done, ok maybe a couple but Rangers will never do what Dundee utd do and field a handful at a time as although they are a better placed team nowadays their fans don't demand they win every match and therefore enjoy seeing fresh young talent come through while still playing pretty well.

You miss the main point, Ally could have a new 'Messi' and not know it and his tactics are absolute crap. Sorry, what tactics?

J scott have u been in the antartic with your namesake macoist is woeful

Don't want to go on about it but if such a guy existed I think even Ally would have spotted it by now as he sees them every day as do the youth coaches.

To 5] Yeh, Ally would know my ass. He would tell him to come back when he is old enough. Ally was a great player for us but he is a hopeless manager. He may have bridged gaps for us but for God's sake look at what he is paid. He wants to get a reallity check. Anyone can buy success in a mickey mouse league but come the day when he plays against the big boys he is up the creek without a paddle. He was backed by Green for one reason and that was to sell season books to the Ally loyal.

30 Jun 2014 21:35:37
OP can you just explain what Ally did to hold the club together?

He'd need to be not to spot a potential superstar and anyway, McKay, McLeod and Crawford have all been given a chance, McKay should never have been loaned out. My point is youth has been given a chance. It's not a case of just saying Oh This guy is under 21, let's play him for the sake of it.

Stewie, he was there and he stayed there through all the crap. Yes he's not a great manager and yes there are worse pressures but being manager of Rangers is difficult enough without the circumstances he was in and I didn't see anyone else managing them.

J scott we know some were givin a chance but they should have been givin a run in the first team especialy once the league was won instead of trying to go a season unbeaten against amature football clubs

Wouldn't think it the way so e of you go on, honestly Ally must sometimes wish he had walked away. From all this criticism he gets for a start, who needs celtic fans when we have our own fans giving him the verbals andI so 'to care what anyone says, that's a fact! Bye BYe!

J Scott, I am not an Ally fan but it gives me no pleasure whatsoever pointing out what is blindingly obvious, that is he is out of his depth at the levels we have been at and it can only get worse as he comes up against better full-time managers. I would hazard a guess some managers would have jumped at the chance of managing Rangers under the circumstances Ally had, I reckon with a £7 mill wage budget & £825K salary we would have had some real managers willing to take a chance and the only reason they did'nt is because Ally won't go. In the last 3 years Rangers have made Ally a very rich man and we have only had the minimum return. We are not progressing under Ally's Stewardship due to his inability to coach young players and his preference for Cowie, a seasoned professional, as opposed to Scott Allan suggests that ain't going to change.

01 Jul 2014 20:47:16
@9 you said it yourself he is not a great manager so why should the fans who pay good money put up with him? The standard of football under him has been woeful and his record in the cups is embarrassing. As for holding the club together that's simply not the case

01 Jul 2014 20:49:06
@12 great post mate couldn't have put it better myself. It staggers me that there are still Rangers fans that can't see this

@12 & 14, I'm with you guys, absolutely spot on.

@11 jscott, I also wished ally had walked away. Wouldn't have to watch the absolute dross that has been on display for the last two seasons. I watch amateur football that is more pleasing on the eye and these guys get paid diddly squat, as do their Managers. I would be quite happy to suddenly develop thick skin and take all the criticism that came my way for £800,000+ per year. I'd probably be able to get a team to play better football into the bargain, as would many others.

30 Jun 2014 09:10:18
does anybody think brian kennedy will make another move for rangers, as its been rumoured in the papers??

30 Jun 2014 14:12:38
Doubt it. Had his chance 2 years ago and now he'd have to spend many more millions of his money to gain control.

Hope I'm wrong.

I hope so, but I also doubt there will be any buy out of the current regime unfortunately for us.

I don't think he will try cause the people that bought tickets today have probably geed these greedy unknown people a life line till the saeson ends