Rangers Banter Archive July 30 2016

 

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30 Jul 2016 23:32:24
This Emile Heskey rumour better be a joke.



30 Jul 2016 21:59:53
Reality check today and still lots of work to do in defensive shape. I'm going to be controversial here. Barton slows the game down for me, he isn't match sharp yet and I thought young Rossiter looked class again, can see the Barry Ferguson comparisons now for a lad so young he plays beyond his experience in years. I'd either play him before Barton or change the shape to allow 2 holding Mids.



30 Jul 2016 22:47:50
I have do disagree with your Barton comment, thought he was probably the best player on the park today along with Rossiter who came on. We definitely need to recruit in the defensive area but on the attack we need a clinical goal-scorer, just what Burnley had today in Andre Gray. Saw Warburton on the sky sports app though saying that we are close to securing a defender and that he might even sign before Saturday which is good news and then he will most likely utilise the loan market by bringing a young defender from any of the top EPL clubs. In Warbs we trust!



30 Jul 2016 23:39:54
Just to clarify. I'm not saying Barton is a bad player or that Rossiter is better. Just don't think Barton is close to full match sharpness. Rossiter def is. 3 at back with 2 sitters in middle of park could be the answer.



30 Jul 2016 23:45:56
Barton was easily rangers best player today! Isn't scared to take the ball! Was even dropping deeper than the cb''s just to get on the ball! Never hides! Exactly the type of player that should be admired whilst we have him.



31 Jul 2016 00:01:46
Barton and Rossiter should both be in the team. Rossiter is a class act and can learn so much from Barton.



30 Jul 2016 23:04:26
I'm with you on this one RangersLoyal, I also thought joey barton was the best rangers player on the park, hardly wasted a pass and his range of passing was superb, will be a great signing for us and will dominate games for us and will cruise it in the scottish premiership, said when we signed him and I'll say it again, joey barton is the best midfielder in scottish football and will prove this to be the case over the course of the season.



31 Jul 2016 23:32:36
I'm not sure our style of play, nice as it is, will be enough to challenge for the title, Walter knew what you need, as did, Eck, Oniel, Warbs has developed a lovely style, I'm just not as confident as some other folk who thinks we, re already certainties, hope I'm wrong, but we will struggle against them, and maybe others, they will be notiing our game, and adjusting theirs
Tommy.



30 Jul 2016 21:20:27
I think result today should temper expectations. not that long ago we had gazza laudo et all. even more recently we had black Kyle etc. i think we are in the middle ground just now and it may not be the immediate sharp upwards that we all crave. Dave King is not a sugar daddy like jack walker was for Blackburn but in Warburton we will get there without the funds of days past.



30 Jul 2016 22:00:03
I love the way things are going solid hungry young players and i am excited for the future with the young players mixed with a bit of experiance, a couple of years time our team will be electric.



30 Jul 2016 23:48:09
A big difference between ourselves and burnley was a premier league striker! Pretty much 3 chances =3 goals for Andre gray today! I think he'll score a good few goals this year!

I really admired the burnley support today! A credit to their club.



31 Jul 2016 00:01:59
Warbs seems to have a very solid and sensible plan! He is signing players that have a future and also experienced players who can compete just now! Plus help the youngsters! In my opinion no one else could do this transition better than Warburton!



31 Jul 2016 07:53:08
ScottyGDF

I hope he has a plan for the centre of defence as it's worrying he still seems to be persevering with Wilson and Kiernan who were both shown up in the championship. Also the signing of Hill another defender with no pace doesn't inspire confidence. The Burnley game highlighted 2 major issues the lack of a good central defence and the need for a striker.



31 Jul 2016 23:48:56
He has got to realise the defense is wrong, simple as that, we need a top keeper, (McGregor), and a solid back four, none of last year defense is anyway near good enough for top flight, never mind Europe, I don't know why he gave Kiernan another contract? Middle to front is great, but I would much prefer Warbs to have a preference in attack, such as 2 main strikers, and a number 10, with wingers flying in, and 2 holding midfielders, and stop the ridiculous habit of replacement of 2/ 3 players at the same time every week. ? That is upsetting the team structure and coherent play, unless of course injuries or poor performance. , Wilson and Kiernan are not uo to playing against good players, Motherwell could and should have scored at least 3 goals in 20 mins recently, can you imagine Griffiths with them chances, before anyone get uppity and all defensive, I've followed Rangers for 50 yrs, no one is a bigger fan than me, bit I know a problem when I see it, again, lovely football, but screaming out for aggression, and some stability
Tommy.



30 Jul 2016 20:49:30
A lot of players getting digs here because of the game today not enough plaudits for the players who played well, people also have to understand Andre grey is a different calibre of player than anything we will come up against I'm Scotland, I for one thought when Wilson came on hodson and rossiter came on the game completely changed the game when they came on.



30 Jul 2016 21:26:43
Wilson imo is far better than any other centreback we have.



30 Jul 2016 21:34:07
Jesus guys, got to apologise for the English I used above there man hahaha.



30 Jul 2016 22:18:26
At least what you have posted is readable wilsonryan96, sometimes it's like someone has scribbled in crayon and that's got to be hard with a keypad!



30 Jul 2016 23:28:07
Ahhahahahaha true there rafrob.



30 Jul 2016 20:41:54
What's really evident is we badly need to sign a centre half with pace, I hope we can go and sign mariappa pronto, at ibrox today it showed once again we need pace in the centre half positions, mariappa imo fits the bill without doubt.



30 Jul 2016 23:56:12
Mariappa would be a sensation in our current team! We should push the boat out for him.



30 Jul 2016 20:37:21
Warburton wants a CB in before Hamilton,

I doubt they'd be involved at all in the game but it would be great to see a MW quality CB come in before Saturday.

If they are to have a chance at making the game at all, you'd imagine the signing would have to be made by Tuesday, Wednesday.

Might here something on Monday or late Sunday. Hopefully.



30 Jul 2016 20:25:47
New signings will be in the stand for the Hamilton game next week :)



30 Jul 2016 22:55:49
What use are they in the stand?



30 Jul 2016 20:10:44
Time for one Madjid Bougherra to come back and sort this defence out once and for all!



30 Jul 2016 23:57:01
Need to move on from players of old I think.



30 Jul 2016 19:58:50
Anyone think that Rangers and Celtic should be allowed to have a B team in the lower divisions to get first team football for youngsters, would bring them on so Much more than u21s.



30 Jul 2016 20:31:35
Bluebells7 totally agree.



31 Jul 2016 01:41:46
To a certain extent I agree but what gives us the right to field teams in lower leagues? We cannot just create 2 spaces in lower leagues for Rangers and Celtic. How about a complete overhaul of Scottish football, top to bottom where all the under 21 games actually mean something. This is something we (Scotland) are failing at.



31 Jul 2016 07:55:55
CDC

Would agree something needs to be done about the development league as its a complete waste of time just now. The young players aren't learning anything playing in this league and the lack of young talent coming through is alarming.



30 Jul 2016 20:10:44
Time for one Madjid Bougherra to come back and sort this defence out once and for all!



30 Jul 2016 18:50:17
no podolski in galatasaray squad for friendly against Man Utd could that be striker were after? has posted support of Gers on twitter never know!



30 Jul 2016 21:35:29
Doubt we could afford podolski.



30 Jul 2016 18:49:34
I think Warburton should think of playing with a back 3 and Wallace and Tav as wing backs. Or adopt a 4-2-3-1 as defence carved open far 2 easy.



30 Jul 2016 19:31:25
I suggested this formation to a workmate the other day. Seems to make sense to me.



30 Jul 2016 19:41:28
I agree, rossiter and Barton holding, could stop us leaking so many goals through the middle.



30 Jul 2016 19:51:44
And rossi terms learns from barton at the same time.



30 Jul 2016 18:46:31
Ive heard from a good friend with contacts that Balotelli is a possibility but just a name among 5-10 being looked at.



30 Jul 2016 18:44:08
Step up in class today but we won't be playing in the EPL next season will we? Results that matter aren't in friendly matches but in the SPL matches. When is Crooks to be fit and Windass too? Clearly both are needed. Looks like Hodson is worth a run in the starting XI. No need to get suicidal over a friendly result but the defence does need fixing.



30 Jul 2016 21:41:32
Agree mate Crooks looks class and may add physicality to team.



30 Jul 2016 18:19:06
What people's thoughts on this team for next week Wes Tav Hill Wilson Wallace Rossiter Barton Nico O'Halloran Waggy Mckay would go with Windass but don't think he's fit we really need some pace at centre back and a goal scorer.



30 Jul 2016 18:41:50
Halliday for nico and windass, McKay, Ohalloran front 3.



30 Jul 2016 18:17:32
2 CB, s needed, rossiter has dun more t impress in half the game time Barton has. krancjar looks like a store horse and waghorn has no pace t play wide right and is not a number 9 either, so food for thought for warbs. and can sum 1 please tell me how many goals we have scored from these short corners starting t get a total waste of a valuble set piece. rant over.



30 Jul 2016 19:11:21
Bully1 I know where you are coming from but the way we
play is all about possession, if the opposition don't have the ball they can't score!
Yes I love to see corner in box and big CH bulleting header into the net .
If one of their players win the header then you can be in trouble of counter attack!
We won't change, keep the ball probe and create .



30 Jul 2016 21:31:29
Brian-p cheers for reply mate. but a don't see us creating from these short corners even when we were playn part time times such as East Stirling, Stranraer, Annan etc like most fans say surely there must b a plan b. ie. mix it up now and again and swing it in. it's ok if you have inestia. messi. Neymar probing but that's a full season in the championship and struggle t find 1 goal that has come from short corner.



30 Jul 2016 21:13:32
agreed bully1. today we seen what a striker can do Andre grey 3 chances 3 goals all be it 1 a penalty. Wag horn would have been lucky if he scored the 2 from open play. CB are badly needed as no pace at the back and no positional sense.



31 Jul 2016 23:33:00
We have players who are simply not good enough, no matter what some sycophants will argue, waggy did a great job at a lower level, as did Waldo, tav, harry, and the goalie, but are they going to be challenging for the title. ? I don't know, in fact I don't think so, my biggest concern is, strangely, the manager, great as he is, he seems unable to change the unending corner kick routine, which is smashing when it works, and his habit of replacing of 2/ 3 players on the hour, this upsets the team balance and means some players know they are coming off long before they see their number up, thus their levels drop, its not conducive to a team plan, and affects a players confidence and work ethic, Imo
Tommy.



30 Jul 2016 18:15:53
we have signed players that were good now we need players that either will become good or are ready to perform tav is no right back the central defence the less said the better and by the way that was only burnley tay.



30 Jul 2016 17:59:30
no disrespect intended including MW and DW but its painfully obvious we need TWO top class ctr backs.



30 Jul 2016 20:03:32
Problem is we can't afford two top class CBs as we shop in Home Bargains.



31 Jul 2016 18:14:15
I don't no how we don't get a CB in ASAP every 1 can see that's where we need bring in quality it is obvious to see want it sorted before the start of the season.



30 Jul 2016 17:53:29
Let's face it, if Leigh Griffiths was 36 and their centre back 38, we'd welcome it. On a positive note, once again O'Halloran looked great and I hope Warburton doesn't persist with Waghorn wide right too long.



30 Jul 2016 17:47:59
No excuses today lads beaten in just about every position. Clear we have been getting carried away with performances against the East Stirlings of this world. HIll/ Kiernan do not look comfortable and Hill looked culpable at first 2 goals. Fitness level of NIko must also be a concern. Looking forward to hearing MW's comments. On positive side MW and DW will use this to get us up and in the zone for next week.



30 Jul 2016 17:30:56
Anyone else see the tanned guy that looked like an agent sitting next to Frank Mcparland at the game today. Any ideas whos agent it is?



30 Jul 2016 17:52:11
He could probably get a game in our defence himself, but seriously no idea supposed to be an agent or players representative.



30 Jul 2016 18:25:58
tin tin?



30 Jul 2016 17:30:34
Okay so kind of got the feeling that we were going to be second best to Burnley a Premiership team this afternoon as it was the first real test

All the signings will need time to gel

If there is one thing I took from this game it would be that we are needing someone in the centre with real good quality

Really liked Rossiter and OHalloran when they came on and Barry McKay was decent the rest of the team were a no show.



30 Jul 2016 17:04:31
Don't see the point in loan signings don't want to depend on them after the seasons over and can't afford to keep them, permanent signings or bring on our own Tallent only way forward.



30 Jul 2016 17:01:20
The match against Burnley highlights the fact that we need to sort out defence!



30 Jul 2016 17:09:58
been impressed with Lee hodson every time he's played tho.



30 Jul 2016 17:25:03
Aye, 1 good centre back needed urgently, but IMO we need to reevaluate the 4-3-3 with Tav and Wallace playing so far up. Beckenbauer and Maldini would struggle wi this strategy.



30 Jul 2016 17:42:18
Cee, I agree about Hodson but the way half decent forwards are able to cut in behind us or even just run by is terrible.

Plenty of time for gelling etc but we need to get a decent C. B, there can't be a better word than bombscare for our C. Bs sometimes.



31 Jul 2016 17:26:48
In fairness rafbob it was highlighted in just about every game last season whether we won or not, today has compounded the fact but I am certain that we will go with Keirnan/ Wilson as our CB pairing this season.



31 Jul 2016 17:46:27
Defo need a CB burnley turned up and played well gray is a great player his awareness is up there with the best good test for us

Stuck a fiver on Rangers 3-1 was expecting abit more from the team today but our defence was abit stretched they must learn from this and tighten up abit

I do feel when the gel and click as a team there's no stopping uz sort out our defending warbs and we will be ok there's still afew week to the transfer window closes I'm sure there working hard at bringing in a top class CB and cf we do need that and the sooner the better.



30 Jul 2016 16:57:49
Sorry guy's this will sound negative but the so called smaller teams in the premier league are scoring for fun today, we desperately need a top striker someone tried and tested n, time for the board to open their wallets and spend some cash .



30 Jul 2016 17:00:18
A striker can wait there is no way we can compete this year with that central defence.



30 Jul 2016 16:35:20
Oh dear. Reality check today. Very poor.



30 Jul 2016 16:31:44
Due to the rumours that the striker is at ibrox today anyone else hope its Gray :)



30 Jul 2016 18:28:39
aye 50 shades of it!



30 Jul 2016 16:15:03
We are totally shocking todayđź‘Ž.



30 Jul 2016 15:46:05
Think all the party in the pants comments about mckay need to stop after watching this higher level he's looked out his depth.



30 Jul 2016 16:02:14
well he's looked our best player.



30 Jul 2016 16:05:53
Left the full back for dead once and then put the brakes on again.
He needs a kick up the ****.



30 Jul 2016 16:42:29
You bring up McKay when we've got a defence like that, wow.



30 Jul 2016 17:00:31
The defence is woeful and we need two centre backs as a matter of urgency. That apart the difficulty is who plays in midfield and upfront. O'Halloran looked good when he cam on. So did Rossiter. With Krancjar and Barton presumably certain to start games given their quality and McKay looking to be a first name on the team sheet every week that does not leave many positions available.



30 Jul 2016 17:30:23
Because we know the defence needs strengthened people were on here drooling over mckay like he was a worldy last week reality check time.



30 Jul 2016 17:55:08
He's one of our best players- but anyone who thinks he's world class doesn't watch enough football.



30 Jul 2016 21:19:41
agreed on McKay he was in their full backs back pocket today. A question why does the magic hat persist on putting subs on between 62 and 65 min.



30 Jul 2016 15:32:35
Sorry guys, - but if you cannot hear alarm bells ringing watching the game. You are seriously deluded.
Slow, ponderous, no ideas, centre of defence AGAIN is a nightmare.
This NOT fekin Stranraer! and is more like what we will have to deal with week in week out.
Please sort it out guys.



30 Jul 2016 15:38:46
one difference between the sides, andre gray. that's what 10 million pounds looks like. new striker needed, badly.



30 Jul 2016 15:40:16
Need a quick centre back, & go to a 4,4,2.



30 Jul 2016 15:41:13
Yep burnley significantly better in every department so far. Great to see how we can respond. Great test.



30 Jul 2016 15:44:42
I said the same last week when briangersfan was impressed with the defence keeping clean sheets against part time players. But most fans on here are bright enough to know we need another cb. Any speedy strikers in spl will be rubbing there hands in glee at running against Clint hill.



30 Jul 2016 15:46:49
Centre back still a major major problem and we are seeing exactly what we are up against when there is even a bit of quality from the opposition. Not good.



30 Jul 2016 16:03:37
luckily we will not come up against a player like andre gray this season he is amazing.



30 Jul 2016 16:01:07
Love your loyal support of the team cynical as ever the game isn't over plus it's a friendly and we have had no real pre season to try anything out. Too many got too used to walking over teams in the 90's and now are just greetin faced fare weather friends that take singing when your winning to a new level. Get a grip of yourself and stop moaning your posts seriously do my tits in.



30 Jul 2016 16:30:53
Same problems as last year.

Too slow in possession, lack cutting edge and the defence as usual is easy to expose.

We can get away with it to a certain level but good teams will find us easy to get at.

Please remember that we should be well ahead of Burnley in terms of fitness and we are at home.

Said it before, we can get away without another striker- we cannot get away with the current defence both in personnel and tactics.



30 Jul 2016 16:33:22
If we ever have ambitions to play in Europe or beat Celtic then we need to be able to handle team's like Burnley and players like Gray.



30 Jul 2016 16:34:53
We will still come up against fast attacking players and they will destroy our defence. We need at least one quality centre back and fast. Interesting to see who has gone off and who has come on. Delighted for Rossiter and Dodoo but I would rather see Kranjcar and Barton on the Park with them.



30 Jul 2016 16:59:46
No preseason have u been in space for the past 4 or 5 weeks. How dare u question my loyalty of the team I love rangers but I'm allowed to critise when I see fit. The defence was a shambles last season and nothing has been done so far to fix that. So stop getting on like a child.



30 Jul 2016 17:11:44
celtic don't have a player half as good as andre gray.



30 Jul 2016 17:12:49
There are some that can't see critical comments can be positive- especially when the problems are so obvious they almost smack you in the chops.

Our defence wasn't good enough in lower division, it needs improvement- how can anyone who watches us not see that.



31 Jul 2016 15:47:10
Mate calm down its one game against opposition far superior and they looked it everywhere. Looked defensively weak as I feel playing Kiernan will always do. We are playing our least energetic midfield partnership which I talked about in my own post. Not a team in the SPFL will put that much of a challenge up. Barton Kranjcar and Haliday are too slow and don't provide enough energy in comparison to the likes of Windass. Crooks is our best player and he will show that playing CB with Wilson next season.



31 Jul 2016 15:55:27
Not so sure any Premier team will be like Burnley, think your overestimating them .



30 Jul 2016 14:34:03
It's been a great transfer window and I've enjoyed the way we've went about our business, Mark Warburton and team have thrown more curve balls than Babe Ruth in getting players that no one suspected we would go for thank you Gaffer keep up the good work. I believe RVP has been a welcome distraction as they move for other players only time will tell!



30 Jul 2016 15:33:42
it's shown today how good these old boys Hill and Miller are, men down.



30 Jul 2016 15:49:54
They are not the only ones that look poor against a decent quality English side. Problem is that we will have the same problems against some of the Scottish sides that we should expect to beat. A centre back at least is a major necessity and it needs to be one with a bit of quality and experience, not some 18 year old unless we are going to find a 'new' Derek Johnstone.



30 Jul 2016 13:21:38
Do you think the guy el Bakhtaoui from the pars could do a job for us, wouldn't cost a fortune and he can bang the goals in . just a thought.



30 Jul 2016 14:03:13
Was he not on trial with an English team recently.



30 Jul 2016 14:07:56
yes really surprised no one's signed him.



30 Jul 2016 15:22:02
Lol, he was playing in the 3rd tier of Scottish football.



30 Jul 2016 15:34:36
so that means he isn't a descent player? where was mckay and wallace playing not that long ago.



30 Jul 2016 10:22:46
Just read that spurs are not looking to buy a new centre half as happy with the youngsters they have to cover the position. Dom Ball was mentioned as one of the three they have. Don't think we will see him back at Ibrox now.



30 Jul 2016 12:32:59
Good luck to the guy, hopefully he does well with Spurs.



30 Jul 2016 08:16:21
Lafferty charged with betting by the FA. The magic hat won't touch him with a barge pole. Thanks Kyle. You saved a lot of us gers fans from having to see you near our club again. Not saying the hat would have wanted him back anyway.



30 Jul 2016 09:21:46
Ian black betted on rangers matches did he not. Kyle lafferty barely played last year so he could hardly bet on matches he was involved in. It's hardly a hanging offence.



30 Jul 2016 15:51:49
Black was a joke signing like most if not all of McCoist's signings. Lafferty should be no where near Rangers.



31 Jul 2016 10:14:37
Maybe so hooly. I don't see the fuss myself but they all know the rules.



31 Jul 2016 11:39:02
Ian black would not last 2 secs in our set up now was glad to see the back of him as for laferty I don't want him anywhere near ibrox all this negativity sorounding him would only upset the dressing room I'd gladly stick with what we have rather than take him back.



30 Jul 2016 07:07:29
What about Donald Findlay representing Craig Whyte. I don`t know what to make of that one. He is the same former board member who stated when referring to the money grabbers on previous boards.
"The only thing a rangers board member should take from the club is a Rangers tie".



30 Jul 2016 09:23:59
Think it shows that lawyers would defend anyone for money.



30 Jul 2016 09:53:10
how he can defend craig white is mental.



31 Jul 2016 09:51:27
I am appalled at this.
It shows the difference between the scruples of lawyers and crooks is zero.



30 Jul 2016 00:28:35
Sitting watching MLS v Arsenal would love this striker we're after to be Drogba even at his age would kill it in SPL.



30 Jul 2016 06:28:53
yes Drogba would be a class addition. But until these players are willing to drop their wages to play for us it will never happen.



 
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