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30 Jul 2012 21:22:20
when do we find out if we have been granted full mebership W.A.T.P {Ed039's Note - Friday)
Regan says the rangers fc licence will be granted on friday
Confirmed by SFA at lunchtime that it will be Friday - just awaiting Dundee getting SPL membership
30 Jul 2012 21:17:19
Team for east fife. ed post this mate so we can see what others think
Alexander
Broadfoot Boca Goain Wallace
Hutton Black Kafes
Little Jig Shiels
Get rid of broadfoot...hopeless
boca and goain....heart no in it
I'd seriously drop Broadfoot and stick Perry in if he's fit, Broadfoot is hopeless
Dmrangers
30 Jul 2012 21:13:09
Tickets for rangers home game a week tomorrow August the 7th are on public sale from thursday priced £15 for adults..... On the rangers website....
Gary
Hope plenty of programes are printed up cos a lot of bears will be wanting one for this game & it's a good way to generate a bit of extra cash for the club!
Hamish
30 Jul 2012 20:50:40
Who is going to the East Fife game at Ibrox next week? I'm looking forward to getting back to Ibrox, for a while I was beginning to wonder if we would even be playing this season.
GovanFR
30 Jul 2012 20:31:15
Let's get one thing straight. Rangers never applied for a new membership they asked for a transfer from the old holding company to the new one. The governing bodies said that they will do that if rangers take the penalties coming there way. That's why the transfer embargo and fine is coming our way. Sorry to disappoint to all them that thought we would die. We might be down but never defeated.
Yes there's a lot of ignorance out there. Rangers (newco that is) needs the old membership as the "newco" hasn't been around long enough to join SFA as a new club.
And has been said here often, the bad history goes with the good. Anyway, great to see the team playing again. Let's hope the authorities get their act together this week.
Rangers could not apply for Newco status , they do not have three years accounts
Will you take the £140m debt. because unless you do . you are a newco with no history . shamrock
Your SPL membership is being transferred to Dundee...explain that one ?
Every team has to have an spl licence that's in the spl. When a team gets relegated it goes to the team that gets promoted. So only teams in the spl can get it. Every team in all 4 divisions has to have an sfa membership that's what is getting transferred. Do you understand now. If you don't it's to much for you to think about. So don't.
30 Jul 2012 19:53:48
I find it hard to understand why Rangers are pursuing the 34 yr old Greek midfielder. Surely if ever there was a time to build a team to bring the youngsters through, it would be now. Hutton, MacLoed, and McKay all showed up well yesterday. Giving wages to over the hill mercenaries is exactly what got us into trouble before. Capucho, Emerson, Ostenstadt etc took big wages for very little return. Lets blood the youngsters with a few of the experienced players already at our disposal and get back to where we belong.
The youngsters will still play a lot of games this season. We only had four players on the bench n they had one appearance between them. We need a s**tload of players. Plus you can't expect to throw in a team of teenagers n expect them to do the business all season.
Agree we need youngsters but McCoist similar to Smith will always go with old heads . We need a new manager who will build for the future sorry Ally this is not your Forte. Disagree McKay showed up well I am not sure he would do well in under 21 football. Definitely not good enough, even for 3rd division.
We will probably lose Boca, Goian and maybe even Wallace....... So a bit of experience will be required
30 Jul 2012 18:50:09
I wish Green had kept his prediction that we will be the best financially sound club at the end of this season! As much as I hope his talk is not just talk I'm concerned that other clubs and the footballing authorities will see this as arrogance and make things even more difficult for us . We can't be seen to gloat at the demise of other clubs while we succeed when we were at the front end of this mess.
OP-Exactly.He should stop making these statements---only causing yet more 'dislike' for the club.He's debt free as he left the debt behind --liquidation.Bet the creditors were none too happy to hear him tonight.Please get on with the job and stop these inane comments.
There is nothing Mr Green can say that would make us more disliked than we already are, he is only telling the truth...
Correct number 2 poster but people dont need it thrust down their throats , try thinking before putting your mouth into gear
Again u miss the point its not up to rangers to make other teams get by its there own fault if they go bust the shouldnt have been so fast to push us out the door, what you think ed big baz
30 Jul 2012 18:44:55
So how will things end this season? Possibly 3 or 4 SPL clubs going down to the 3rd Division after they have been liquidated. 4 teams promoted from the 3rd to the Second Division and 4 from the 2nd to the 1st - so far so good. But what team in their right mind would want to leave the 1st Division for the financial desert which the SPL will become?
I think that by necessity we will see a reconstruction of Scottish football at teh end of this season which will result in Rangers being invited to play in the SPL. I hope we refuse and allow the remaining 6 SPL clubs to rot in the financial deathbed which their supporters forced on them.
If (when) the SPL dies we must ensure that our friends in the SFL are not treated badly and that the finances of football are more equal going forward.
Bigbaloobear
PS Even if we did not play very well yesterday, great credit should be given to the Brechin players who gave 100% for their club.
Green seems to think that Rangers will be back at the top "sooner than people think" so reconstruction may happen for next season. Quite how that is fudged to include Rangers remains to be seen.
As for other clubs, if it happens then it happens. The SFA needs to be crystal clear what the sanctions are beforehand. If a team goes through admin with a CVA then will they be relegated? Docked points? Transfer ban? The must be clear rules. If "newco" then is it for a SFL vote into SFL3 like Rangers? We would presume so.
Doubt any Scottish team in any division will be liquidated this year, they will just have to cut their cloth accordingly.
In fact the only Scottish team who seem totally intent on spending above their means seem to be Rangers.
Is nobody else concerned about this?
Hamish
Are some of our support so stupid that they actually think other teams will go into Liquidation? they will simply go into administration and come out of it with no debt like US and the only sanction for admin was point reduction. We managed somehow, to not pay Tax man , not have set accounts etc etc hence we got further sanctions. Teams will take the ten points and their directors will be able to say that THEIR books are free of debt.(shut up Green) For god sake wise up and smell the roses! Green and Ally are pedalling you what they know you want to hear? its a bloody game and in this game we the fans had/have the power! we should have used it before now during Murrays reign never mind Whtyes and whats happening now ? the same old crap ... Green & Mcoist "spew" out the nonsense and our fans take the bait. If we all buy into this new regime then we cant blame others when it all goes wrong this time and as for the media not questioning Green or Ally about their remarks what does that remind you of ?? they were to scared of Murray and co, allowing them to bring the demise of Scotlands priemier football club, Be warned and open your eyes before its to late.
I presume all of these 'on the hoof' decisions are now enshrined in SPL/SFL rulebook - for future clubs unfortunate enough to find themselves in similar positions
or am i just being silly/
bil72
No transfer ban as that was for bring the game into disrepute by not paying the tax man.
As for div 3 of course no other team but rangers and celtic would even be considred for anything else.
point deduction is automatic
What about all the bending over backwards for the newco,making up the rule book too try accomodate them,saying that the newco be like third lanark shortly with the muppet greene in charge...
30 Jul 2012 18:36:42
Its official green is mad, why doesn't he just concentrate on running his Rangers better than people did with the old rangers, maybe even try and beat they're records rather than comparing them to Celtic
I'm warming to him. He's got almost the worst possible outcome from his purchase but he says he's prepared to play football wherever the league(s) allow him - SFL3 in this case. If he thinks Regan is a candy flosser then he'll find many people agreeing with him.
30 Jul 2012 18:35:22
Doncaster and Lawwell representing SPL in London in meetings with SKY:
Doncaster had warned clubs in the Scottish Football League that TV deals with Sky, ESPN and SPORTFIVE stood to collapse if Rangers were not then voted into the First Division, wiping £17.7m out of the game to be replaced with a new deal worth £3m a year.
That threat has so far failed to transpire since the Ibrox club were admitted to the Third Division, with talks continuing over the contract ahead of Sky broadcasting SPL fixtures on the opening day of the season on Saturday, August 4.
All the lies regarding losses if rangers not in SPL or sfl1 now being shown up. Sky would rather show leagues with sporting integrity. {Ed039's Note - Don't make me laugh)
This must be somebody at the wind up?
theonly reason sky is talking to these ar*eholes is because TRFC have had to agree to give up their media rightsnfor the next 3 years
STILL the biggest draw in scotland ;-)
bil72
The words 'sky' and 'integrity' shouldn't even be used in the same sentence!
2) don't get the sky boycott and the damnation of them. There agreement states they require four old firm games, not getting it therefore their viewing figures collapse. They want to show Rangers because the viewing figures are worth their while. Can somebody explain what the boycott of sky is about, just don't get it
The current sky deal has 2 years still to run, has everyone forgotten that? Google 'sky spl 2009' and see the clause in the contract........interesting reading me thinks.
Right, so why did Sky want the agreement to explicitly state the deal is contingent on Old Firm matches then?
There will always be a TV deal for the SPL, and it's always going to be a kinf of auction. Clearly the TV companies want to play as little as possible and they probably will pay less with all those Rangers fans cancelling their subscriptions.
What planet is this guy on the only reason sky is still at the table is the fact that rangers games in the third will be shown by sky so without us your tv deal would have collapsed wake up and smell the coffee without celti and rangers the spl is a backwater who cares about it as for sporting integrity dont make me laugh the spl wanted us out but only to the first division still wanted our drawing power then when it was the third still wanted our tv rights sporting integrity where the hell is their moral integrity ;;;;;cooperboy
@4. what part of four old firm matches must be played or deal gets ripped up didnt you understand?...mark.
3- First off, why would Ranger's supporters pay Sky to watch the SPL? Second, why the "damnation" of Sky? Well, go away and look at who owns Sky. Not speaking as a 'Gers supporter here, merely as a sane and rational person who would not touch anything to do with Sky, or it's owner!
30 Jul 2012 18:28:21
Today Sevco accepted all outstanding penalties attributable to the SFA membership of soon-to-be-liquidated Rangers. They also agreed that if Rangers are found to have cheated for over a decade by illegally registering players that they will be subject to whatever penalties Rangers would be due, in order to acquire Rangers SFA membership.
Only a week ago Ally McCoist insisted he would not be party to such a deal, it remains to be seen if that they were empty words.
The Scottish Premier League will now continue with its inquiry into the alleged dual-contracts Rangers operated during the Sir David Murray era. I confidently predict the findings will reveal Rangers did not operate within the same rules as every other club, since at least the last century. The former club will be stripped of all league titles and cups. Celtic will be awarded league titles for 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011, creating a new Scottish record of 12 consecutive league championship wins.
Sevco will be liable for any punishment due for these years of operating with shadow contracts, the likely severity of which will reflect the enormity of the offence.
Should the First Tier Tribunal find that Rangers evaded paying up to £75m of social taxes, which is explicitly against Fifa and SFA rules, the SFA disciplinary tribunal will punish Sevco, the successor club now due to inherit Rangers SFA membership.
Take the titles if it really matters to you. You still never won them and we will still be the most successful club in Scotland. WATP
I dont know any Celtic fan who wants the titles.But they should be wiped if guilt is proved
Keep dreaming mate I almost believed that post until the nonsense about any penalties that would have been giving to the oldco will be givin to the newco. There would be no point exciting this as we would just go bust again. Oh but wait there that's what you want tommy. And by the way the titles will not be handed to Celtic that's just silly. The record books will just say nil and void due to unlawful use of players or something like that. The reason being for every title rangers have won I have pictures of me in my rangers kit with a big banner saying rangers champions 03 05 09 2010 and 2011 I also have newspaper clippings stating rangers were champs so if rangers were striped the titles would not go to another club. And the biggest problem of all what will the spl do phone all the rangers players and ask for their winners medals back don't think so but dream on tommy if it makes you feel happy
Do you honestly think celtic would have won 12 titles in a row and even in the unlikely event scottish football would be in a worst state than it is now back to your xbox now
Of course they will!
you are probably one of those that keep reminding us that WE NO LONGER EXIST
but are still salivating at the thought of twisting the knife even more
ps remind me -when ross county, annan, & inverness all came into the league - how long were their transfer bans for?
bil72
#3, My dear Hector fan, if the results of the Rangers games are declared as 3 -0 losses, then rangers involvment will show they should have been relegated each season, therefore the points awarded to each team would reflect who should have won that particular lead, had Rangers not taken the measurers they did. its not rocket science to re-allocate the points.
:3: newspaper clippings,GET A LIFE.
75m of social taxes ? Even if FTT finds Gers guilty it is £18m of social taxes - the remainder is made up of interest and penalties - these are not social taxes dough heid
@7. yes newspaper clipping,dvds,posters the one thing all these items state are FACTS that rangers one the leagues on them dates....mark.
So all these 3-0 losses mean opposition players should receive win bonuses? Teams who won cup and league should receive win bonuses? Teams who should have entered Europe should receive bonuses? Rangers players should return win bonuses. Where does all this nonsense stop?
6 and 7 don't make me laugh your pure hatred of rangers sure does make you act very strangley. Look 6 you can't wipe what's already happened all you can do is take away for wrong doing the bottom line is this you won't be getting those titles so forget it. As for 7 get a grip you person yes newspaper clippings like the centre pages that are done with the team and the spl tro
Phy it's called memrobelia so what's wrong with that. And as for me needing to get a life your the one who constantly on another teams site spewing rubbish and criticising everything rangers so don't make me laugh
30 Jul 2012 17:52:48
It never end does it,now Mr Green is getting stick,for ,of all things ,clapping his hands,give it a rest.Well done Mr Green for backing your club,and having a go at the chinless wonders,who,have tried to destroy,not just Rangers ,but all of Scottish football.Nice tie by the way,always a Ranger.
I've been giving Green the benefit of the doubt but yesterday his words and actions were an embarrasment for all true Gers men.
And why does he have to constantly lie?
Claims he met officials from UEFA last week who told him that the way Rangers had been treated was unprecedented?
Charles, you didn't meet any UEFA officials last week. If you're going to lie on small matters like that why should I trust you enough to shell out season ticket money?
He's a glib liar.
He's been caught out now about 10 times, they've all been listed.
Stating bigotry robbed rangers of an SPL place instead of every chairmanship reason of sporting integrity is risable. The SFA need to hammer him.
29 Jul 2012 22:13:50
Can eds or anyone else clear this up for me. If we have a transfer ban 12 months from 11.59pm 31/08/12 - 11.59pm 31/08/13, does this mean we can still sign players? The 31st of august next year is a sat...which means transfer deadline day will be monday as sfa has got to be open to register players? If it lands on weekend then it goes to next working day? Can anyone confirm?
If this is the case i think we should take the ban even although its injust in my opinion...as i feel we can sign enough players now to get promoted (even squad players), then we can line up any targets for next season and put them all thru on the 1st or 2nd sept when window still open. This would mean we have served another brutal penalty dished out by the rangers haters...and can still add to squad? Is this the case?
Loanhead true blue {Ed039's Note - Been asked this a few times and if the window is open til the Monday you would have to say yes but we will see nearer the time)
30 Jul 2012 18:15:22
Firstly please only sensible replies
Why did Peter Lawell accompany Neil Doncaster to London for talks on tv deal surely that is a conflict of interests??
I'm aware that he is part of a committee including Duncan Fraser and the Inverness chairman but what I don't understand is why it was him and not the other 2 what are all the other chairmen thinking about this?....
They all wanted to be part of the angry mob to get at rangers but are quite happy to let the Celtic chairman agree a deal surely they must think that Lawell will look out for himself first or does 'sporting integrity' come into this too?...
Peter lawell has accompanied neil doncaster because the SPL is made up of twelve member clubs who all have the right to represent themselves. The board members are elected by the twelve clubs(one is from celtic).
Peter Lawell will not make the decision, he will negotiate the deal and all members will be able to vote for or against it.
Where is the conflict of interests he will want the best deal possible.
Och, get a life, feckin eejit, Peter Lawell is there on merit, because he has proved himself as a very astute and shrewd negotiator, who is very highly thought of and respected in football and business echelons, he is there because the rest of the top clubs in the SPL ( of which sevco are not members) want him to be there, and he is also there because Dimcaster is hardly capable of tying his own shoelaces !
Finbar
They democratically chose Lawwell as their most competent CEO to represent them.
His SFA position and being CEO of Celtic, Scotland's champions and most globally watched and commercially most successful club also qualifies him immensely.
All a load of mince all 3. the spl elected a steering cmmtt on the tv deal. Lawwell and 2 others I think were elected. 1 is from Inverness and Lawwell is the only one to go with Doncaster.
Fairly obvious question
which of the other SPL chairmen would you like to represent the SPL?
don't like the man -but can't see anyone else that would do a better job in the circumstances
bil72
30 Jul 2012 17:06:26
Dean Shields - No brainer, proven at SPL level and has ability that will see him stroll through the lower leagues,also at 27 and if we manage to get 3 consecutive promotions at 30/31 he'll still have a few good years in him in the SPL for us.
However, i don't see the logic in this signing. It seems as though Hutton and Black will be our preferred central pairing for the new season, surely we have a few young lads who can step in if injury/suspension means Black or Hutton isn't available, even McCulloch can play there if need be. McKay looked decent, as did McLeod. Naismith and Mitchell can play wide so why are we going after a guy who will command a decent wage but if we get back to the SPL in 3 years he'll be 37 and no use?!! If our situation has given us anything it's the opportunity to develop our youngsters. Sure the Greek guy may be a quick fix but i'd be far happier to see what we have in terms of youngsters coming through.
J1985
We need creativity an 1 eyed wullie is the wae a head
"this greek guy" has tons of passing skills and ability playing with some of the top teams in greece you cant just throw a bunch of teens on a park or they will get beat thats why we got tooking to extra time yesterday , get a grip mate!
Firstly, how you know the greek lad has tons of passing ability and skill baffles me. I take it your either an avid viewer of Greek football or you've done a bit of youtube scouting.
Secondly, i never said fill the team with teens, i simply said surely we have guys at the club who can do a turn if need be. We have the perfect opportunity to blood some youth in the position we are in and hopefully find a few wee gems.....but no, you would rather have an ageing foreigner in our team ahead of our young guys!! For me Hutton and Black will be the pairing in centre midfield, like i say if injury or suspension takes it's toll Jig can fill in, failing that we must have a youngster or 2 at the club who could play in the absence of Black/Hutton/Jig. McKay looked good and McLeod was ok. Give these guys time and they may flourish in the side. Shields can come in and play wide/off a front 2 or even centre mid too so the need for this guy, particuarly at 34 is pointless IMO.
J1985
30 Jul 2012 17:03:11
Rangers To Sign Dean Sheils And Kafes In The Next 24 Hours And will Be Available To Play On The 7th Against East Fife.
Team For East Fife.
Gk-Alexander
Rb-Broadfoot
Cb-Boca
CB-Goian/Perry
Lb-Wallace
Cm-Black
Cm-Kafes
Cm-Hutton
Rw-Little
St-Jig
Lw-Sheils
Prediction- 4-1 gers
I would mcloud mate i thought he played well against brechin
30 Jul 2012 16:55:33
Not a rumour but a plea for all bluenoses to show their love for the club by purchasing tickets for as many games as possible to enable us to strengthen and progress on all fronts Great prices for east fife game especially juvenile. Many people want us to sink but their is strength in unity let's unite and stand fast
East fife game not away ? {Ed039's Note - No)
Agree all the arguing and infighting needs to stop and we need to stand united behind Rangers and dare I say it Charles Green, we look like we are going in the right direction and the team need us now. Fill the grounds, buy the tickets and lets enjoy the journey with some laughs along the way.
30 Jul 2012 16:21:41
new Rangers draw Falkirk in next round Ramsdens cup. Falkirk go through having destroyed their opposition 3-0. Falkirk are current holders of the cup. New Rangers have no chance on yesterday's showing.
Who are these New Rangers that you refer to?
Your obsession with Rangers is commendable.
New Rangers? explain.
@3 That's your problem.Explain---how many times do you need it explained?Your unwillingness to accept an explanation is quite illogical but 'cute' in it's own way!
Dunno much about "new rangers", they aint been around long enough to know much, probably due to the fact the "old rangers" have went defunct(in disgrace) due to financial mismanagement, cheating and corruption !
Finbar
Falkirk have a long tradition going back over 100 years, you'd need to wager on that pedigree rather than a cobbled together group of half hearted want aways.
30 Jul 2012 16:16:59
Can we all stop calling our team THE Rangers or Rangers newco or sevco. We are Rangers Football Club. Calling our team by a different name just insults our great history
Pull your head out the sand mate.
Our previous owners have proven to be corrupt. A part of our history that it's best not remembering.
Are you that thick. It's all the other supporters that call us that not rangers fans.
The name has not legally transferred until oldco is liquidated. Registered with SFL as The Rangers Football Club. FACT
Youre officially listed as The Rangers FC and thus shall you be known.
Once the final rulling is made you will not be able to trade under the same name or any name that has a resemblence to rangers,beleive me this is fact.
What about leeds they got to keep there name
The official name is the rangers football club ltd no rulling @5 will stop us using it as with the strips, badge , and history only bitter people out there will argue that we cant use them. but so far we as of today are called rangers and we use the same strip that was released in may with the same crest let them pull there hair out trying to convince us different we know better...mark.
30 Jul 2012 15:51:41
Steven Watt, former Chelsea defender playing for Dover would be an ideal signing for us. Highly regarded by Jose Mourinho at 1 time and although he never lived up to expectations at Stamford Bridge, but at 27 i'm sure he'd still do a turn for us. Also can't see wages being too excessive as he is currnetly playing conference football.
J1985
Tell ally that not us
Steve Watt is injury prone! But would defo give him a shot!
Played against stevie watt as a junior when he was with deveronvale. the boy was slow, couldn't run for toffee and I have seen milk turn quicker. he's not playing conference football for nothing!
30 Jul 2012 15:06:26
Just a wee idea here people. How about somebody contacting Rangers and asking them to auction of the first set of strips when we play our first competative game in the SFL£. Could raise some money. One that springs to mind is the fantastic work we do for the Help for Heros charity.
£50m of tax would have helped them more. shamrock {Ed039's Note - It would have helped a charity would it)
30 Jul 2012 14:05:51
so i assume that the new co finally admitted that its a new co?? based my assumption on the fact the number 12 shirt was in use yesterday when the old co had clearly retired the shirt??
Yes you're correct my friend and newco fans were buying multiple game programmes as collectors items for the first game of the new club and stating that publicly.
Take a moment out.
Find a nice comfy chair.
Put on your standard lamp.
And read the rules of the SFL.
What's the point of going to law school and getting an LL. B and then business school and an MBA to practice sports law to be told by daftie no 'O' levels Ally McCoist it's the same club? Utterly ridiculous. I think the SFA needs to tell them once and for all that it's a new club with no history of the old liquidated club.
Grow up what are you 12.
3rd Division clubs don't have squad numbers. Simple.
Please do your homework before posting. I wont even attempt to tell you the real reason. Jog On!
30 Jul 2012 14:55:21
1 game played and poor kirk is getting slated by fans. Everyone slated ness naismith mcgregor and co for leaving but big kirk stayed for the club and all you want to do is give him stick. I dont know who is the new p r man for the club but he is being very clever with ally and charles making statements to get fans on there side with the bigotry comments which i find hard to believe. I think there are more celtic fans who want rangers in the s p l than fans of other clubs. So dont know where the bigotry thing comes into his thinking apart from getting rangers fans to dig deep to keep his plans going.
He transferred over to the new club, true, showed loyalty, true, but he has to play well to get loyalty from the fans.
I agree with what your saying mate,ok the big man may not have had his finest game in a blue jersey but weve not had a pre-season so sharpness wasnt there but he wasnt the only one who looked rusty.give it a few weeks and am sure well see a difference,an your spot on as the others deserted us(call it as you will)broadfoot and a few selected others have shown loyalty and are here for the fight,so lets get behind the guys we do have and show our support.its got to be a culture shock for a lot of these guys so lets cut them abit of slack and as a said give it a few weeks and well be up and running and working at getting back to where we belong.oh and to all the celtic fans that seem to love anything rangers at the momment insteadof putting the boot into us all the time why not try supporting your own team 30.000 at the weekend half empty stadia,and a potential early exit from europe on the cards,ad av thought you would be more concerned with
Your own club at present.watp always have been always will be.
He didn't say religious bigotry he simply said bigotry clever use of the word
Only stayed because he has no where to go
100% agree with u mate he DIDNT WALK AWAY like the rest of the scum an i thought he done well goian was at fault for goal me finks get behind our players some fans are fickled tho
We still won the game thats all that matters tbh they all just played as bad as eachother
For those who clearly believe that bigotry is necessarily religious or in many cases anti -catholic it is worth noting that bigotry is the intolerance of other peoples views and in that senses you are all guilty.
If you had listened to/read the whole interview instead of jumping on one word 'bigotry' (and assuming it was all about Celtic) you would know what Green was talking about.
Wee scotland eh!
you've got to love it
bil72
30 Jul 2012 14:49:33
Police have arrested a man following trouble which flared up during the new Rangers' first game outside top-flight football.
The 23-year-old man was detained for breach of the peace after climbing a floodlight during the away match to Brechin City.
Other fans set off smoke bombs and made sectarian remarks during the game, which ended in a 2-1 win for Rangers.
Tayside Police said the trouble was caused by a minority.
WHY O WHY DO THESE CLOWNS TURN UP. YOUR NOT WELCOME
This minority truly are Scotland's shame.
It's up to the club and other fans to identify them and ban them.
Some so called fans just cant help themselves
@1 Convenient to mention 'Scotland's' shame.It's our club's shame and we must face up to it.It was to be a new start and great to be in action again.Right away we have nutters causing problems(not to mention controversial statements making unwanted headlines today)Leave the dross behind,get rid of the idiots and try and be a 'family' club we can bring youngsters to.
Now is the time to grab them, identify them and ban them. Be a family club like suggested. Make this carnage work for Rangers Bears.
Ps. They KNOW that they are going to get headlines - and they don't care. How is that being a fan of a club? Wasters. Only car e about being in the torchlight for a few seconds
30 Jul 2012 13:36:21
I read on the banter page that UEFA could be involved because of the temporary licence - I would welcome that.
The SFA & SPL have conducted themselves disgracefully during this nightmarish time in our beloveds clubs history.
They have withheld payment from RFC for finishing 2nd
They kick us out SPL but then insist on making money from our image rights
The people that caused this will bSPLe investigated by BDO and they could be charged so why do they insist on kicking the new club when its down
Charles Green was right - bigotry, greed and jealousy is behind decision made so far
Not a penny more will be spent by myself if if benefits any of the SPL integrity ar****les
Why would anyone be jealous of a club that went bust?
Charles Green is just trying to sell season tickets using the "oh everyone is against us let's show them " He's looking out for number one {Ed039's Note - Quite right as well)
RFC have withheld payments for just about everybody in Scotland. Total disgrace
SFA withheld payment for a defunct club finishing 2nd ?............................That self same defunct club have withheld a 140 million pounds of payments to charities, other clubs, the taxpayer, small struggling business's who as a consequence will go bust, emergency services, ffs, show some remorse instead of blaming everyone else for your predicament, maybe then you'll get a bit of sympathy !
Finbar
Should not get UEFA involved as we would be out of the cup as wewould have had no license to play(stop and think before you post)
The whole The Rangers FC team is not registered with the SFA or SFL with their contracts of employment. The team are not currently in the SFL and not registered until the oldco share transfers.
Illegally fielding an unregistered team.
Finbar, with all due respect, there is and will continue to be very little sympathy given to us from within Scotland. For every 10 apologies and positive comments there may be 1 silly comment. Its the dafty's comment that will be remembered by our rival fans which we all get held resposible for.
It truly does get tireing.
pappy
30 Jul 2012 13:33:50
It really hurts doesn't it that rangers will never die. I feel sorry for all the other fans that wanted it but it never happened. Dry your eyes timmy. WATP.
Im sure theres actually people more gutted than I am happy. That thought makes me happier. Funny old world. CheltBlue
But they did die, or are in the process of doing so (liquidation). It really hurts you to admit this too so dry your eyes.
Is it wart smith or Brian Kennedy trying to buy the fragile new club this week?
So many lies.
Tears of laughter mate, tears of laughter.
30 Jul 2012 13:08:49
Considering how much Rangers future has been hanging in the balance the last few months I can't believe how negative so many people on this sight are.Maybe they are not all Gers supporters which is fair enough, we all know how obsessed the other side of the city are with what's going on at Ibrox , but the one thing I would like to say to all true Gers supporters is to be patient, be thankful and be the best supporters in the country WATP
I think we have a great opportunity to do just that.
Drop the silly songs, the bile and hatred, buy up the season tickets and be vociferous in our support.
Show everyone who the best supported team in the world is.
And believe me, the world is watching with great interest.
30 Jul 2012 11:33:49
The comments from Charles Green in this mornings newspapers back up what I have previously stated on this site. The SFA and SPL are corrupt and incompetent from top to bottom. The anti Rangers agenda from the SPL clubs and fans and from within the SFA will ultimately destroy Scottish Football. We are currently the laughing stock Of World football who must be looking on in bewilderment at the Rangers situation. We are in the middle of the worst recession in recent history yet the idiots who run our game are intent on destroying Scottish Football. The push from other SPL clubs to bring fans back to offset the loss of Rangers will last a few months or maybe a season at best. Fans will quickly realise Scottish Football is overpriced and extremely poor in quality and attendances will eventually drop along with TV and Commercial revenue. Rangers will rise again in time if all fans get behind them in these tough times. The individuals who brought the club down and those in power at present who have danced on Rangers grave will ultimately pay a heavy price. Rangers fans need to get fully behind the team especially at home and when we return to the SPL(if it exists)boycott every away ground in the SPL for at least a season. What goes around comes around. Rangers deserved to be punished for their crimes and have accepted almost all with dignity but how many sanctions can they come up with. The SFL are the only organisation who handled this situation well. We will get revenge eventually on all the others.
The sooner the SPL is wound up the better. It was created for a football deal that eventually collapsed. No longer needed. One SFL is all that's needed.
And whose fault is all of this mess ultimately? Yup, that's right, your club. Keep blaming everyone else, though, and making pathetic comments about revenge etc. if it makes you feel better. It really just makes you seem bitter.
Green will ruin Rangers,all this nonsense he is talking should get everyone afraid. Give Mcoist 25yr job ?god he's a buffon.He is playing to the gallery saying all the right things he needs to to win the fans and some of us are falling for it.
You should be more concerned about his talk of going to London to float our team on stock exchange. Is this him admitting the £20 to £30 million he said he had/could get isnt in fact there? The words of this is where the fans can buy into Rangers is an admition that no one is putting the money up ? first he wants our money for season tickets then he wants us to buy shares? why? that means we are funding the club not him or his little bunch of backers. If we all buy shares we are letting him dissapear in a few months time with OUR MONEY.Dont be stupid....
2) disappear back to your own clubs issues.We are bitter due to idiots like you blaming Rangers every single problem and issue in Scottish Football on us. Take your green blinkers off and look at the big picture
Do u not think the fans of the other clubs will have the same thoughts as yourself and make a bigger clective effort to make up the lost revenue of rangers not being in the spl? What makes you think gers fans will put up with cricket scores against lower league teams anymore than celtic fans will walking to spl titles? Rember pre souness?
Doogs86
30 Jul 2012 12:57:10
I think a good way to raise money for the club would be to have a sweepstake on how many times Ian Black will be sent off this season. It could be a 50/50 draw where half the proceeds go to the club and half to the winner!
Personally I think about 5 red cards are possible - Jaxie
He is without doubt the dirtiest player in Scottish football.
A danger to others. Pitty the young talents coming through to be hatchetted by him.
30 Jul 2012 12:14:50
Rangers Ins -
Ian Black
Andrew Little
Dean Sheils
Robbie Savage
Craig Beattie
Gary Teale
Gary Kenneth
Pantelis Kafes
Would agree with- Black,Little,Sheils,Kafes not sure about beattie cause weere trying to get kevin kyle and garry kenneth is joining a leauge 1 team and gary teale is far too old nd not got any pace or skill
30 Jul 2012 11:57:11
Brechin V Rangers not a pretty game but considering it was our first competitive match this season well done, front page news, TV coverage with highest audience for BBC Alba,sell out with demand for further tickets, good young talent being given their opportunity to shine.
Celtic V Inter Milan 35000 empty seats, little or no interest from the media and fans,no big name signings, poor draw and the prospect of no champions league football dawning , and posters on their websites talking about what? You know what, Scotlands no 1 team Rangers.
FOREVER RANGERS............
How can a D3 team be the number 1 team in Scotland?!
25,000 for a friendly during the Fair holiday isn't bad considering. I remember Rangers playing Liverpool in a friendly a few years ago at Ibrox and the stadium was only half-full and there was a considerable travelling support.
ERR,one fact you missed.The celtic game was a pre season friendly.What a stupid post.
What planet r u on it took extra time 2 beat brechin and 2 compare brechin game with inter game showes how silly u r
Wise up, celtic were playing a pre season game, in fact two games where played that day by celtic teams! so 35000 empty seats? meaning there was 25000 in the stadium? certainly beats rangers attendance of 17 or 18000 fans just 8 days before liquidation! learn your facts at stop clutching at straws RIP RANGERS you wont be missed
What a silly post lets wait and see how many people go to ibrox for home games after the first few games i think u will find half of ibrox will be shut. thats why mr green came out with that silly statement on sunday it was just about selling season tickets
As i said yesterday it was on freeview mate and BBC ALBA was only launched 4yrs ago.
They will be putting dummy spectators in the seats at parkheid next lol doug t.s.o
As a neutral, I'm delighted that Rangers have been hobbled! Now if only someone could arrange something similar for Celtic we might see proper competition in Scottish football and that would be a first in my lifetime!
Do yourself and us a favour mate.
Forget about Celtic.
They should mean nothing to a Rangers supporter.
Whay are you slagging Celtic supporters for talking about Rangers, when you're talking about Celtic .........?
Mac2.
One was a beautiful summers night in a 60,000 seater staduim against one of the best teams in Europe. The other was a Football League Cup on a p*shy day in Brechin!
The romance of your tour around the leagues will start to bore your support and the crowds will dwindle. The kids won't find it cool to support the blue side of glasgow. And your granchildren will be Celtic fans!
DazzaBhoy
30 Jul 2012 10:57:58
I see mr green chief executive hitting out with more silly statements again by saying rangers will be better off than Celtic financially at end of season, what planet is this guy wired to. Rangers top brass & silly statements about Celtic, now that does ring a bell and what happened, yesterday is the answer. Laudrup, gazza, to black & Kyle. Enough said.
Aye and stokes and Brown are in the same class as Petrov and Larrson? NOT.
Ex hibs of course same as whittaker ,thomson ,never rated any of them ,if they were that good why werent hibs up there challenging for the title each year , only 2 good players to come out of hibs were colin stein and andy goram doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - Doug I know we signed goram from hibs but he was schooled at bury and Oldham so they can't take credit for goram)
I think you will find that Stokes and Brown cost a lot more than Petrov and Larsson. Money ain't everything!!
Hi ed 39 spot on there doug t.s.o
30 Jul 2012 08:43:38
Can't believe the number of Celtic fans slagging gers first game, remember this is our first game with no pre season....... Remind me what celtics scores have been pre season?? And the fact that Brechin have already beaten an spl team pre season doesn't saying for the spl.
Celtic played a lot bigger teams than Brechin plus they were only frendlies not a competitive game
Dont see the point in slagging each other. Celtic weren't the enemy in all of this. Anyway, we'll be playing the big boys and you'll be boasting about topping D3. Bit childish. Just wonder how it'll all go. I read on here that Green was to pay the money for Gers tomorrow. Wait and see.
Who cares timmy cos we won....
Lol bigger teams norwich lol...mark
30 Jul 2012 09:45:20
Charles green and fat sally here's some facts...
Rangers have received hardly any punishment to date, most of the mess that they are in is a direct consequence of their own actions / inactions. Despite what McCoist and others keep bleating about, they've had next to no punishment imposed by anyone, so far.
Banned from Champions League
No they're not banned, they failed to qualify as they never submitted their accounts as per the rules.
Docked ten points
Any club entering Administration during the football season faces a automatic ten point deduction - and it did not alter their final league position.
Rangers were relegated from the SPL
Rangers were not relegated, they are in Administration, could not agree a CVA, and are facing Liquidation. Rangers will be wound up and cease to exist, so cannot play in any league.
Sevco were relegated from the SPL
Sevco were not relegated, they have never been, a member of the SPL. As a brand new company, they were refused permission to start off at the top tier of Scottish football.
Sevco have been relegated to the 3rd Div
Sevco are a brand new company, they have never been a member of any league, and have not been relegated by any league. They are starting in the 3rd Division, as all new Senior Clubs are expected to do.
Banned from Europe for three years
No, they're not banned, any club wishing a European Licence must provide three years audited accounts. Sevco are unable to meet that requirement, so can not qualify until they do have three years accounts.
Fined £160k
Actually yes, this is a punishment. It was imposed by an independent tribunal, for bringing the game into disrepute over non-payment of approximately £13,000,000 of Tax and NI, potentially a criminal offence. Rangers / Sevco haven't yet paid it!
Transfer Ban
Yes this is a punishment, however in order to allow Sevco to play in the 3rd Division. The SFA have allowed Sevco a transfer window to buy players before the ban kicks in.
Rangers have been punished for EBT's
No they haven't, the football authorities are not even investigating this. They were sent a "bill" by HMRC which they appealed. This appeal has been heard by the FTT, and both parties are currently awaiting the outcome.
Rangers have been punished for Dual Contracts
No they haven't, the SPL have said that there is a case to answer (irrespective of any decision on legality / illegality of their use of EBT's) on the use of undeclared dual contracts, meaning they would have fielded ineligible players, but to date this has not been actioned.
So far the only punishment Rangers / Sevco have received is the £160k fine - that they haven't actually paid..! Everything else they are claiming is a "punishment" is actually completely self-inflicted, and a direct consequence of their own conscious and deliberate inactions, or actions. {Ed001's Note - the ten point deduction is a punishment, it is not difficult to understand that it is an automatic punishment triggered by administration.}
What's with the fat Sally nonsense. Gave you looked at the ginger one not exactly a slim fast success story. Give it a rest.
Sounds like you enjoyed writing this. You and the rest of the anti Rangers brigrade within the SPL will have their day. What goes around comes around one day. Look forward to it.
Shall we discuss all the punishments Lennon himself got off with. The whole thing you typed up is utter nonsense. They have been punished enough.
Some old firm fan are so petty, Why dont you just move along and support your OWN club, Oh they sung this song, they did this and that, while your clubs fans do the same.
How about us Rangers fans get a public flogging at parkhead, would that make you happy? no cause nothing will.
And ,what is the real point of this rant. Its like a school boy rant he said this I said this blah blah blah..
We are playing football, not very pretty yesterday but it's started and we are back and moving on.
Concentrate on your own clubs failings, champions league qualification,bottles shaking already, no more signings, drop in season tickets.
I support my club whatever maybe you should concentrate on doing the same and stop worrying about Scotland's most successful team.
Still going strong.................
To the original poster, you forgot the biggest punishment of all. liquidation . which was the death of oldco and the freezing for all time of rangers football clubs history . and that is the one that puts all the bears into denial mode. loss of history. newco have a one game history. shamrock {Ed001's Note - liquidation was not a punishment, that is a consequence of financial mismanagement.}
OP - give it a rest, another piece of wasted internet space. Same drivel from the timmy propaganda machine.
Away back to your cupboard.
All facts and Ed your comments in reply are poor. Let me ask this question, what do you and the support should have happened> Nothing I guess {Ed001's Note - I doubt any of my support could give a monkey's to be honest, as my support would be Liverpool. Now learn to understand that I was just pointing out a glaring inaccuracy in the post, nothing more.}
Welldone you managed to set your points out well but after that it's all down hill. Honestly I struggle to understand why so many people who don't support rangers are so obsessed with rangers. So please enlighten me because I am becoming worried for your mental health as your obsession with a team you don't even like must be having a affect on your everyday life. I'm a rangers fan and the only time I used to think about your team was when a old firm game was coming up and that won't be happening for a while so I won't be thinking about your team for a while
Ed - -the no punishment lobby is getting boring
any sane person cannot possibly say the club has not suffered greatly punishment or consequence it doesn';t matter
we are where we are time to move on!!
unfortunately it would seem our detractors can't
bil72
Jeez here we go with consequence v punishment again ..... Just to be clear non entry to the SPL was a punitive measure (punishment). Let me explain to the followers of Cosgrove, Spiers etc so that it's simple enough for them to get their head round ... IF the SPL rules stated that a newco were not permitted to transfer the oldco share in the SPL then their rejection WOULD be a consequence - however, and this is the bit you are struggling with, this wasn't the case, the SPL rules stated that the SPL board would, at their discretion, be responsible for this decision. The SPL had a decision to make, do they grant the transfer and declare the newco are not responsible for sins of oldco, or do they reject and punish the oldco for the sins of the oldco. They choose the latter, in their words, to punish and act as a deterrent to others. This was their decision, and regardless of the rights and wrongs of it, a decision WAS made, there was choice, so therefore it can't be a consequence
People hitting disagree? its facts being put right in front of use, bury your heads in the sand as usual! remember last time you done that and wouldnt believe your club was in trouble, then what happened? o yea, you got liquidated
Great post m8,as the ED stated yes the punishment for the 10point deduction is correct,but evey other point you made is spot on,sso why do so many disagree,the deluded and ostriches still in denial,stevo
Guess the loss of history is a kind of punishment although it's really a consequence of any football club going bust and liquidating. Incorporated football clubs ARE companies, an inseparable requirement for association football. That is why SFA need all SEvco company info, the board of directors of the company are the exact same board of the football club. The shareholders are the same etc,....
This brand new football club has a one game history and has no seeding or footballing history for euro or domestic competitions.
Green can purchase the old club badges logos etc but cannot use them with this new club it's illegal to do that under insolvency law. Trading on a liquidated companies brands.
Away over to the Celtic page and concentrate on how that defense is going get you into the champions league, I honestly believe Celtic fans are more concerned about rangers than Celtic these days, by the way I enjoyed Brechin more than st johnstone .
@1: what goes around did come around - to bite your team. Wishing misery on others to make you feel better might well come back to haunt your club again. Be careful what you wish for lol
They just dont get it! GO AWAY we dont care about you, Support your own team.
It's down to the sfa, Sfl and spl it's in the rule book it's to there own discretion if they transfer the clubs membership from oldco to . that's why there has not been a new club membership but a transfer of one.
30 Jul 2012 00:53:08
Well done on your first win Bears. Keep the heidi ad buckle down - every games a cup final for your opponents so it might be a rough season, but won't be the usual SPL boring. Good luck hail hail. Joe
I posted the comments regarding rangers punishments..I was bringing it up because of Charles green in his stupid comments regarding bigotry...all of Scottish footballing bodies have bent over backwards to try and help rangers but it's all of Scotland's footballing loving fans that want sporting fairness and rangers to be treated as any other team who had cheated and been corrupt..if it had been and other team outside the old firm no one would have heard of that team again,because of the fierce rivalry between the old firm and the banter I still believe this has brought the old firm closer!celtic have been quietest of all rival clubs I think because they share the same bonds finacial etc, I I'm not a blinkered bhoy I realise Celtic will suffer by rangers not being about this has been seen by falling season tickets due to no obvious challenge,going back to rangers not in spl sure the spl will have a drop in revenue..but let's see what benefits rangers will bring to scots 3rd may god how good will this be for grass roots Scottish game and them to get gates they could only dream of
30 Jul 2012 00:33:33
I thought the guys done alright today considering it was there first real game, they will improve over time.
Anybody know whats happening with Beatie, Shields, Reynolds and the Greek guy?
I think we need another defender or two, two mid and two forwards to be the finished article, what do you think?
I agree , jig & wallace did ok , mclean a bit raw but will learn. little looks like he has grown up a bit . match fitness did show. thanks for that. it has dragged on so long the membership saga. it looks like authorities didt want us to win yesterday. we should get used to that, when fitness comes we will waltz through the leagues.
cant belive the fuss with contracts , not being able to play untill next friday. think they are making it up as they go. brechin fans made a good part of the day .
We need two decent wide players who can get to the bye line and get a cross in
JG
Dean Shiels and Kafes will sign in the next 24 hours,
I think we need murry park to be doing better for us the player they are sending to the 1st are of div3 standard how can this be , what you think ED guzman {Ed039's Note - It should be doing better)
30 Jul 2012 00:07:35
Greens statement today about bigotry behind decision making by other clubs will keep our own fans happy but further alienates us from everyone else. It infers a lack of any remorse and that we are the victims in all that has gone on.
Move on Green and McCoist.
Nice post halfwit! Green is saying what every other chairman is thinking! About time someone stood up and said what they think!
Imagine Mad Vlad or Lennon had said the same kinda thing. Every bear would be furious.
Personally I think Green's looking for trouble from the SFL so he cam claim to be victimised and then use the 'victimisation as an excuse to leave Rangers. I also think BDO might overturn the sale from D&P to Green anyway but either way I don't think Mr Green will be at Ibrox very much longer.
Hamish the Bear
I think a lot of fans will see through Greens stupid remarks.He needs season tickets to be sold or he will have to pay running costs,and thats the last thing his consortium want.Any one who buys shares from this guy would be mad.
Spot on well said....col
Greens playing the bigot way. hes trying to cuddle up to our rotten core of supporters. get them on his side. hope we dont fall for this man he is yet another fool we have been laid with. celtic fans must be laughing there heads off at us, dont let this mug green take us for clowns
How can we be any futher alienated from every Bigoted we hate you rangers clubs in the spl, They couldent Beat us Before and they wont beat us now! Support the team back Mr Green, well said Charles Lets beat the bigots!
I agree. We had an opportunity to take our medicine and make a dignified start in the 3rd Div. However Green's outburst blaming others for our downfall shows a disregard for the fans who overwhelmingly stated a preference to start in div 3.
Think he was spot on, I'm in no position to buy a season ticket as I live abroad, but from what I've read in the press (and various forums), anybody who believes bigotry wasn't involved in the SPL's decision to deny Rangers, is naive at best. Or possibly out fishing?
Get a grip guys have you never said something and then someone has taken it out of context/
29 Jul 2012 23:39:06
When the Rangers supporters were singing "If you hate Stewart Regan clap your hands", Charles Green has been pictured leaning forward in his seat and clapping his hands.
This on top of the bigotry comments.
Highly embarassing.
Mac2.
It was cauld ,he was only rubbing his hands to keep them warm ,anyway thought people went to football to watch the game ,not what other people are doing or what colour of tie is getting worn ,the moaners are out already ,we all know broadfoot isnt the finished article and wasted a good few passes but at least he tried ,the team is starting from scratch again and its a long time away if we ever see a laudrup or gascoigne again doug t.s.o
Oh I dunno. Maybe my own anti-Regan stuff here reveals I smiled at that one.
I saw a picture where he was looking to the fans and clapping his hands, there was no sound on that picture but you can see all the guys there having a bit of a laugh, if he did clap it was maybe a wee bit of banter with those in the stand with him. When are we going to stop blowing every word and every action way out of proportion
JG
You have to wonder who is advising this guy? Are Media house still handling rangers PR? they were whytes stooges remember.
Yes was good to see a ceo so intune with the fans...mark.
Wait there how exactly is it embarrassing. I for one am happy with what green said not still 100 percent convinced by him but he only saying what all rangers fans think. The hatred/ bigotry shown towards rangers by certain elements of Scottish football has been disgusting to say the least. So mac2 I will take it you are not a rangers man so therefore we don't care what you think. It is time for you and your kind to move on worry about your own team and we will see you in a couple of years
Don't forget the papers can doctor this,, green was probably clapping a rangers goal when he was pictured and the papers have wrote it was when we were singing such songs just for a story... Personally another non-story for me
Gary
Celtic fan here I think he was clapping fans people read to much into things
29 Jul 2012 23:08:36
Hi Ed and all. Apologies for the length but i feel this is important.
I really hope that the anti Rangers views
(agrees/disagrees) expressed on here today are ALL from the opposite side of the city.
Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion but if any bears fan has been on today criticising the team or manager after todays game they should hang their head in shame.
Yes it was a bit of a struggle and the football wasn't fluent.
What did you expect?
The team only found out late on Friday evening that we would be playing. We have also been unable to arrange or enjoy a normal pre season.
There are already moves afoot from the Timmy propaganda machine regarding the validity of us playing today.
UEFA and Fifa have apparently been contacted regarding the validity of our membership criteria.
This is further proof that our total demise as a football club by certain influential and non influential individuals is as strong as ever.
For those who do not realise what has been going on,and what these peoples agenda is,may i suggest a visit to scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com.
Our club needs your support.
The fans are the football club. How much do want our club to survive?
How strongly do you want our enemies to be defeated?
Give all you can,get your friends,
acquaintances, and family members to give what they can. Go to the games when they can. Our task is simple.
Save Rangers Football Club.
Because believe me there are enough people out there who wish to see us dissapear off the face of the earth.
It's upto us to make sure that never happens. Regardless of the quality of player or football at present and for the next few years.
Come on Bears, if Rangers die,who else can we blame other than ourselves. It's upto us to get the club back to where it was,and our support for the next few years is the only thing that will ensure that.
P.O.B.
Brechin would have to complain and going by the delight of manager and other officials yesterday can't see that happening , Bar some time in disguise yesterday annoying both sides great day and well done to the people of brechin made us welcome ,had some good banter with there support but not the poison of spl ,like the old days
POB- well said that man, i could not agree more
JG
Further proof ! pob the only truthfull part of your post is the last paragraph . paranoind pob. geo
Thats it pob stir up the s**t when your meant to be a new club and move on, can ye no jist enjoy the fitba n get over your own teams demise .geo
Well said P.O.B
GDog
RTID
Pob you start off hoping all anti rangers comments are from the other opposite side, sad man . i enjoyed the game .tight pitch i thought ,more challenges ahead.
"There are already moves afoot" propaganda , now if the made up membership is legal whats to worry about .we all want to play by the rules don't we.
Now fair enough the fans are the football club without them your nothing.
" how strongly do you want our enemies to be defeated " i would'nt refer to you as an enemy more of a rival in a football context , sounding a bit like bomber there. are we at war ? .
Now if arangers supporter wants to say he thought x y z were not good enough well thats his/her opinion no need to hang their head in shame ..critsisim can be constructive ..rant ova .geo
Well the crown for biggest sado and hater of all things rangers must go to geo honestly man 3 replys to one post how sad your life must be.
Well what can i say my first was a reaction to pobs post ,the second an after thought ,and the third , just had get it aff ma chest. and who are you nameless poster who gives out crowns, that you pob .geo ps i don't hate rangers . love the rivalry,till it gets overboard half my family are rangers supporters, pobs attempt at rabble rousing...geo
29 Jul 2012 23:08:02
It's not looking good is it........
Police are to investigate possible attempt of arson after Sevco fans put spectators lives at risk by setting off smoke bombs at their inaugural match in Scottish football against Brechin City in the Ramsden's Cup first round match.
Police, the SFA and the SFL will also be examining footage of the game to determine whether sectarian and bigotry laws were broken. Police used video cameras to record the fans from pitch-side and undercover officers mingled with the crowd at Glebe Park.
Rumours are that this is part of the ongoing discussions regarding Sevco being granted full time membership in the Scottish game. New owner Charles Green has also upset the powers that be with his pre-match outburst and behaviour during the match that the fallen giants won 2-1, needing extra-time to see off the part time club who are amazingly in the division above them.
UEFA have been been informed of the situation and have received complaints regarding the temporary licence being granted to the stricken Ibrox club. The game's governing body have been in contact with the SFA over the weekend for an explanation of the situation after it being described as "bizarre" by one UEFA source.
The rulers of the Scottish game could possibly have opened up a can of very unsavoury worms by their actions on granting the licence, after the temporary licence expires, Brechin City will have been eliminated from the tournament by a club who are not registered with any association, leaving the ruling body no choice but to award a 3-0 win to minnows and Sevco to be removed from the tournament, leading to further embarrassment to everyone involved in what is fast becoming the biggest farce in world football.
Benedict Lawwell
Good FKN! grief
does it never stop!
bil72
Can you please tell us who informed UEFA and more importantly why?
JG
Speaking as a half protestant, half catholic athiest I have no time for, nor understand the need for sectarianism, but it is a reality of life on BOTH sides of the divide. The police are acting in the same manner in relation to both Celtic and Rangers fans chanting at games (particularly in Europe - your on your own there for a while so bite your tongue against Helsinki, you will be being observed) and if caught they should be banned for life in my opinion. However, it should not affect the clubs (either of them) as they both have policies etc in place and can't do much more than they are already.
Please explain how a 'smoke bomb' can be regarded as (by its own definition it produces smoke not fire) attempted arson. I am not attempting to excuse its use as it was stupidity in the extreme to draw unwanted attention on the club but it is hardly the first time one of these things have gone off in a Scottish football ground is it? It is the first time I have heard it mentioned on here right enough.
Thank you for your entirely unbiased and non-agenda driven thoughts. Clearly you are not one of the Celtic supporters who claimed to be going to the game to cause disruption. Obviously, nor are you one of the multitude who e-mailed the SPL/SFL chairmen or Uefa to complain about our 'diddy' team even receiving admittance into the 3rd Division.
Get a life mate. Unless you hadn't noticed the football has started back. Stop with all the other crap, forget about us, and get on with supporting your own team.
Brian
Dont you just wish all that was true? and ive never agreed with smoke bombs but not as if we are the only fans to use them is it..mark.
Well got to laugh another timmy who is clearly part of the we want rangers dead campaign on to tell us how disgusting all us rangers fans ARE and that our team should be punished for everything we do.But let me tell you this it was well documented that members of the green brigade were going to mpose as rangers fans and act in a manner which would lead to trouble for the new rangers .This just goes to show how disgusting elements of your club really are.Its time that the people behind these acts of stupidity were identified so we can find out wether they are rangers fans or as i expect members of the green brigade who will stop at nothing to try and kill of rangers.This just goes to show how shallow and pathetic i was going to say minority but it has now became quite clear that that is no longer the case.Try as you may we can now see scottish football for what it really is full of jealous hate and bigotry shown towards its most sucessful club.You can continue to try your best but you will never destroy us. {Ed001's Note - and by its most successful club. Scottish football is riven by bigotry and hatred and it needs to stop. It is pathetic on all sides.}
I always thought this temp license was a fudge not in the regulations! Which makes it quite unacceptable. The weak 12 month ban, not in the regulations, is also not acceptable.
The new Rangers Club needs 4 years accounts of lower level football to get into div3. The idea was to swap membership from the old rangers before it liquidates, but old rangers didnt have previous two years of accounts! So quite unacceptable.
What a load of bull yuo are the type who would want us to never be allowed back in football you seem to know a lot about who has been informed about what uefa rulers of scottish game what songs were or were not sung i acn just see you game recorded up all night listening for any words sung that you deem to be bigoted laptop at ready sending email all around europe to anyone you hope will listen charlie and the bhoys blairing in the background get a life crawel out from you bolt hole and join the real world yes we have a dark side in our support who sing these songs of the past supporting causes which most normal people hope can be allowed to drift into history so get off your pedestal and look at your own team we all have problems ;;cooperboy
Wishful thinking son. All total cods wallop! You've made up every single part of this you pathetic feeble simple minded fool.
GDog
RTID
Well benedict you will have eggs on your face very soon doug t.s.o
Aye very good Timothy. Well done, did your Mammy help you with that wee rant? You and those like you seem to want RFC utterly destroyed, but what would you obsess about then? Your already empty life would be even more hollow!
Ed-saying "Scottish football is ridden with bigotry", is inaccurate.
I would not argue if you said Rangers and Celtic are ridden with bigotry. Fans of most clubs hate religious bigotry. {Ed001's Note - what about Hearts? And Hibs? I have heard it in games involving Aberdeen as well. That's 5 teams and that is enough to suggest it is a serious problem throughout Scottish football.}
29 Jul 2012 23:06:31
Cannae believe people on here who claim to be Rangers fans but all they do is criticise everything we do. Yes we looked rusty against Brechin but it was only one game bk with hardly any player for mccoist tae choose from n in the end we done the most important thing and won the game. Its time people learned what the word SUPPORTER means, get behind the team you claim to love n encourage the team instead of moanin n greetin aboot everythin they do wrong!
Stevoe
FFS! you had six full internationals on the pitch!
Are you for real he had a defence of internationals and a forward line of internationals, the midfield all but one played in a league above Brechin or more last year - are you really saying mccoist had hardly any players to pick from???
Another good post from a REAL fan. We need more of you and less of everyone else.
GDog
RTID
29 Jul 2012 22:45:21
Just wondering how Ross Perry must be feeling? He should be playing before boca or goian.
He was injured if goian keeps going like that he will be playing when fit
Don't worry,Ross will be our main man at the back in the years ahead. Boca and Goian will be transferred away shortly.