Rangers Banter Archive December 30 2011

30 Dec 2011 23:34:56
lets get a grip this time last year same s**t celtic boasting this and that look what happened we will provail the tic board wont strenthing the team again sell 3/4 players. think this mob will win the league .1 old firm game each 2 tae go dont win league after 21 games. ya baw bags enjoy 4 now. 4 in a row.

Dont win league after 21 games

you lot were claiming it was over in november? your "star" player also said no chance of us catching you

Ya only win league after 38 games no after 21 enjoy 4 now

Actually, it was your lot that was saying it was over in November, the bears instead conducted themselves, as usual, with quiet dignity.

Dont win league after 21 games

you lot were claiming it was over in november? your "star" player also said no chance of us catching you

You obviously believe EVERYTHING you read in the papers, I dont know many fellow bears that claimed it was over in november. Fair enough we basked in the glory of being ahead in the title race but "your lot" had games in hand, so it was never over. Enjoy your moment in the sun because there is plenty of football to be played......
Kingbear

30 Dec 2011 22:43:31
There will be no Sandaza, no Andy Johnston, no templeton, no Rhodes, in fact nobody that will cost money, why, because we have no money - simple as that. Even if mr tight gives some of jelavic money, what club would take the chance of selling to a club that may be in admin by the end of the month. Only chance are frees or loans.

Can anybody explain to me why Sir David Murray is not being taken to task over the state he has left our club in. He is the one who stated that he was merely a custodian of the club and that he would leave it in a good state - failed miserably. He was the one who said he would ensure the club was bought by somebody that could take it forward - failed miserably.

It also has to be said that the Celtic fans took to the streets and demanded change, they got it. We have sat back and watch our club lurch from one embarrassment to another. Surely after the Murray fiasco our club should be owned by us, not some dodgy venture capitalist who will do whatever is
needed to make a quick buck. Where are all those that turned up in Manchester, surely with that level of support, which no other club in the world could take that number, we deserve much better. It is time for the fans to let our feelings be known and demand change. We need answers from Sir David, we need the spiv out, we need pride back in our club, not money grabbing bar stewards. Time to demand change

I dont blame Murray i blame the scottish media who for decades have failed to print any negative news with regards Rangers its a scandal really its only now with new media like blogs and the internet they have been forced ( even now they put a spin on it) to tell the truth about the state Rangers are in. To sum it up from top to bottom Rangers are an utter shambles!

Why don't you blame Murray, he has left us high and dry with hid dodgy dealings and now we have another del boy in charge, god help us. Murray overspent and whilst it was fun, these are not the actions of a good businessman. He left with the bank running us and he took £1 and left us in the hands of a complete charlatan

30 Dec 2011 22:26:09
Does anyone know anything at all about Matt McKay? That old firm was screaming for a half decent midfielder which never ever will be big lee or edu and davis clearly cannot carry a team (but then why should have to?) Apparently McKay ran the show in his last international outing and did he not scoop MOTM in our friendly with Liverpool? Im growing frustrated at the lack of imagination just now. Same old faces dissapointing week in week out.

U don't see him in training every day though, McCoist does.

We cant play matt mckay because walter never played him last season and he works too hard on the park. why would anyone want to split up the davis edu partnership? lol

30 Dec 2011 21:41:24
Can't believe some bears out there all the ones who said 4 in a row here we go now after a couple of bad results its all doom and gloom get a grip wot happened to support u evermore and "thru **** and muck we'll fight like **** come on lads get behind the team

A few poor results???We were 17 clear for christs sake, we don,t create bugger all and our midfield is total pish and that includes our captain who,s been crap most of the season. All fans have opinions

A few poor results??We were 17 clear for christs sake

thats how much of a rangers man u are, at no point in the season have rangers been 17 ahead, 15 ahead was the most and celtic had 2 games in hand which they won, so by the time we had played the same amount of games there was only 9 in it

Away ye go ya blether. Everyone's allowed an opinion. Only a ned would come out with a statement like that.

We were 15 clear with celtic 2 games in hand

I,m worried that a rangers fan is accepting dropping any sizable lead is acceptable for our team. My biggest concern is that we are creating naff all in most of these games yet he keeps picking the same midfield. Glad your happy though

If celtic were a good team i would be worried but they arent they will drop points. we can only get better no worse i dont think their is any worse.

30 Dec 2011 20:45:37
Rangers will move for in-form St Johnstone striker Francisco Sandaza - if Nikica Jelavic is sold in January. (Daily Mail)

Rangers are eyeing a move for English-born Swiss international full-back Scott Sutter. (Sun)

Hopefully jacob butterfield from barnsley and dorrans form wba

30 Dec 2011 19:58:43
Forgot to add a point to my last post.
Sone Aluko, Is it just me? as i have not heard anyone else say it.
This player was out of football for 6 months, Before that he played in one of the worst Aberdeen teams in living memory, He then goes to arguably the biggest club in scotland who are the champions, who have a long history of playing in europe......And gets straight in the team and is the only creative outlet in the starting eleven?????
Am i missing something?
I think that says it all with regards to the state of our club.
Get it sorted!
BR

I think he could be a really good player for us when we start 2 play better,he's the only player who actually wants 2get the ball & take the man on! I was thinking more along the lines of why didn't we snap him up 6 months ago!

30 Dec 2011 19:28:51
truth

jelavic wont go unless bid over 15m
mckay will stay
no players sold unless stupid offers
may loan of few players off
-fleck
-mcmillan
-healy


we wont buy anyone, may loan few hopefully from premier league or top flight league
buy-templeton
loan-sutter
-owen
-moses
-kranjcar
-rose

Does truth now mean b****cks?

We wont buy anyone, may loan few hopefully from premier league or top flight league
buy-templeton


hmmmmmm i smell something

100% buuls**te but Michael Owen ffs :D

Just what we need - another injury prone player by his best, get real!

30 Dec 2011 19:09:01
It's there for all to see fellow bears.

McCoist is not upto the job. He is tactically naive and hasn't got a clue. He has no authority over the players, he has went from being the class-clown to being the manager, I can't imagine the players will be taking him seriously. He cost us points against St Mirren with his decisions and it was the same against Celtic.

He might be a rookie manager but he was assisstant to one of Scotlands greatest ever managers, so he should know what he is doing.

I don't rate Edu, but any manager with a brain would have played Edu before McCulloch.

McCulloch has no positional sense to be a midfielder.

McCoist is going to cost the title if he doesn't wise-up.

TonyTheGer

Don't you think he is trying to hard to be like Lord Walter and not being his own man.

Loved McCoist the Player but really getting annoyed at McCoist the manager, his team choices are baffling, McCulloch was a left forward when signed and then took over from squarepass Ferguson, We are Glasgow Rangers, why the hell are we filling our midfield of boring ball winners who can,t pass a bloody ball just to play the likes of st mirren etc. WE PLAY CRAP FOOTBALL

To the post above
Who are the "ball winners" we play in midfield. davis edu wylde mcculloch aluko? they dont even win 70-30 challenges in their favour (mcculloch puts in a few stupid challenges every now and again). thats the problem with our midfield. when defending they run away until the other team lose the ball and when attacking they stand and watch or let gk/def punt the ball over them. they very rarely get involved in the game. either none of them are good enough to play for rangers or they are doing exactly what the manager is asking them to do.

I stand corrected haha, ball winners, think thats what mcculloch and edu are meant to be but fail but you know what i meant, nothing comes from our midfield, Kevin Thompson could win a tackle but pass a ball too. Our midfield is s**t

30 Dec 2011 18:21:16
The real supporters will know because the Chairman has told them that big names might have to move on, but I think Ally should stick to his tune , don't let any body know what we get for any player because as soon as other teams find out you have a wee bit more cash they then put their prices up and we have been stung by this in the past, keep all business tight and look forward to 4 in a row.

30 Dec 2011 17:56:35
After the past few weeks no one can complain when the team is full of changes come the Motherwell game on the 2nd.

For me the team would be:

Mcgregor
McMillan Goian Boccanegra Papac
Aluko Hutton Davis Wylde
Lafferty Jelavic

Subs: Edu, Perry, Bendiksen, Mckay, Wallace, Bartley

To be honest if we had a replacement I would drop Jelavic as his head aint in the game just now.

McMillan deserves a chance, aluko has been bright and with wylde we would have attacking wide men on both sides. Hutton deserves a go as well after loan and playing well previously- he is bette then edu and mcculloch for me too.

For me as well, weir, broadfoot, mcculloch, healy, kerkar, fleck should all be punted in January.

East Enclosure Loyal

When we dropped hooper to the bench it totally gave him a wake up call. him & jelavic think there a defo to start any game.its sometimes the heads up these players need.

lenny

We have too many defo starters who do nothing on the park not just jelavic. and every time a new player gets a chance they are subbed after 60-70mins even if they are the best players on the park. the problem we have is the manager is clueless and it showed as early as the pre season in germany

30 Dec 2011 17:00:03
get rid of mc coist he has run out of ideas to take the team forward BRING BACK TERRY BUTCHER

I am not happy with ally,s team selection or substitutions right now but he needs to be given time and money.if we start slagging our heroes and asking for his job we need to have a look at ourselves.so come on bears lets get behind our team.remember we have 54 leagues and they have only 42 they can never catch us. airdrie bear.

Get rid of Coisty aye but big Butchers no the answer.

It's allys tactics and team selection not his loyalty to gers thats the problem. He keeps playing people out of position and it seems he is not wanting to upset certain players, they feel safe instead of fearing losing their place if they don,t play to their potensial.
I STILL THINK WE WOULD GET MORE FROM THE YOUNG BOYS

Allys to see Whyte TO SEE IF ANY MONEY WILL BE AVAILABLE he should have been told before now so he,ll know if and who he can go for

History is great mate but we live for the future. We need to start playing attacking football and forget about this defensive pish mate.

He would give us a bit of passion back, and would not stand with his arms folded looking confused what to do next when we were losing or asking kenny m for help.

30 Dec 2011 16:43:06
Can I ask all you bears a serious football question and get decent replies please.
We all know average age of Celtic team is about 22/23 oldest guy on wednesday was 26.
What is average age of Rangers?
Next question, I will give you that injury to Naismith has upset your team badly, but he is only 1 player.
At various times this season Celtic have had to cope with up to 6/7 big players out injured.
At Celtic players coming in are trying to stay in team, it seems Rangers team spirit has melted away, now we hear McKay is moaning and wants away.
Final question, are you all happy with a) ally's tactcs and b) ability of your present squad to get you out of this bad spell? Timalloy

So your 'next question' was not actually a question. And you want to talk seriously?
You just fail to impress every time.

They were formed in 1873 so cant have an average age. Trot on Timothy.

Serious response, only interested in Rangers, and could not care less what the soap dodgers do at the schweinstadion. Why do you have such a fascination with everything Rangers?

You really are a " sing when you are winning" punter. your other posts are either you blubbering to the eds or tax tax tax, why would anyone take you seriously with regard to a football debate.

What are you scared of? your obsession with Rangers is really heart warming, but totally false, now...... you can go away !

Me thinks timalloy wants to come over to the dark side.

A) wee coisty's tactics are murder. b) we will still win the league GIRUY TIMMY

30 Dec 2011 16:06:21
Just seen on fb we are set to bring in Michael Owen in Jan on loan so he can try and get into the England Euro squad. Hope not. The money that will be involved in this deal (ie wages and loan fee) would surely be better spent on someone younger, quicker, sharper and someone who we could get a few years out of. Thoughts?

ECB

I wouldn't turn down Michael Owen

Lol.owens hamstring goes every second week playing on surfaces far superior to scottish grounds.how long would he last at fir park,east end park,etc?

Lol.owens hamstring goes every second week playing on surfaces far superior to scottish grounds.how long would he last at fir park,east end park,etc?
=======================
he would get injured stepping off the team bus so a wouldnt worry about the pitches

30 Dec 2011 15:30:35
i think this rangers team is at the end of an era.we need to now bring in the youngsters and moe on broad foot,whittaker,ortiz,papac,davis,kerkar,really and jelavic don,t get me wrong most have contributed but the team looks knackered.airdrie bear

We are two points behind celtic- on a great run. Not that long ago, we were walking the league. The soap dodgers will hit another sticky patch, esp if anyone comes in for their multi £10 million+ rated stars. The league ain t over yet. Get behind your team.

I don't think we can just leave it to the youth, I agree with moving people on, But Papac, for me would be first name on my team sheet and Davis and Jelevic should only be sold for the right price.
BR

30 Dec 2011 15:02:58
Only reason mckay not getting game is Davis in shop window and once he goes in Jan mckay will take his place

Not playing cos he is pish.....simple

How the hell can you say he,s pish without seeing him play? He can be no worse than mcculloch and he gets played all the time??

Ally mccoist says Matt mackay has to do well in training then get in the team, and play well to stay there. Sure thing Ally Whitty and Mcculloch have been outstanding, really making it hard for you to drop them. Practice what you preach.

Whitty has cost us the top hes a midfeilder not right back

30 Dec 2011 14:36:52
it shows a lack of ambition from rangers when a crap spanish player who couldnt get into a poor brighton team is lined up as a replacement for a £10m rated, quality forward. Things are only gonna get worse if this is the way the club is being run.

Fraser

Well, that is the way we are gonna be run, should be obvious by now. We have to accept the pain now.

If he can score regularly for us...I don't give a toss who he is.

30 Dec 2011 14:05:13
‎ Joe Ledley has now scored 2 Glasgow derby goals, which is more than ex-Kilmarnock and Rangers striker Kris Boyd managed in 10 seasons

What a t**tty thing to say?? How many goals over a season has Ledley scored? It's not about Rangers v Celtic, it's about how many you score over a whole season!! Don't think Ledley would match Boyd....

How can you disagree with a FACT?

Fact Boyd scored more SPL goals than larsson.

30 Dec 2011 13:44:20
After whats been happening this last few months i really don,t care who we sell as the players , manager and chairman have let us fans down. Our midfield is piss poor and he signed players like McKay and bodoya who still can,t shift the likes of McCulloch and Edu. When Bedoya got a chance it was playing out of position which seems to be what happens with our team. Jelavic has lost all interest in us and Davis is the worst captain ever.

No have to disagree there i think Craig Paterson was Rangers worse captain ,but if Davis is givin more time he could just get it

30 Dec 2011 13:21:16
surely hes better than mcculloch? hes too slow and past it, hopefully this is mcculloch's last sason because hes just not good enough!

30 Dec 2011 12:52:11
Anyone else think that the mckay situation is a joke, a quality international with 28 caps for aussies and not getting a game at ibrox?

Who says he's quality? Hardly anyone had even heard of him until Rangers signed him and having lived in Oz for 3 years i seen McKay play a few times he's piss poor.

Cant be impressing i n training, can be the only reason

Wot a ridiculous post. Played in australia til he was 28. no1 else after him, wot were u expecting?

Well he did get Australia Player of the year over Cahill, so surely he's got something

RFC54

Who says he's quality? Hardly anyone had even heard of him until Rangers signed him and having lived in Oz for 3 years i seen McKay play a few times he's piss poor.

is he not the australian player of the year, your right, must be pish though

Aye.rolf harris was runner up.

Aye he is pish.

If he is pish then it makes Durrant, McCoist and all our other scouts bloody idiots for going for him and all other summer signings and resignings who never get a chance

McCoist and our coaching staff are idiots.

30 Dec 2011 12:22:06
Hey bears how are you all this morning still depressed? The Celtic team that started had an average age of just 22, if we keep them together we can dominate for next 10 years.
What a turnaround 17 points in 2 months, Sally and his tactics are working a treat ha ha.
Even at Ibrokes he plays more defenders than attackers 451 against even the wee teams, what courage your manager has.
Just a wee heads up to watch Only an Excuse on Hogmanay featuring your "billionaire" owner, apparently Whyte tried to get filming stopped, oh dear I feel ANOTHER court case coming on ha ha
Mind the Gap LOL Timalloy

More like the next 10 minutes

Once the championship teams start sniffing about laywell will sell them

Just a wee heads up to watch Only an Excuse on Hogmanay featuring your "billionaire" owner, apparently Whyte tried to get filming stopped,

apparently u talk one pile of pish, who has said whyte tried to get the filming stopped ya fud and why would he try and get the filming stopped if he doesnt know what they were filming lol would have sounded more believable if you had said he wanted the part with him cut from the show but well done anyway, another fail fail moment

Out of curtesy BBC contact any person to be "lampooned" it was widely known and it was mentioned on radio stations that Whyte objected Timalloy

30 Dec 2011 12:02:37
Right fellow bears we have had our moans now it'd time to start backing the team again, do u think Lenny krankie or timalloy krankie thought there team would be top after being 14 points behind at 1 point? We are only 2 points behind, this is when the team really needs us.

OH YES WE DID ha ha Timalloy
Mind the Gap

Spot on mate, totally agree
You don't get any confidence from people telling you that you're sh**e all the time. Two points is nothing, lets back the boys and get back on top

Baybear

Naw naw naw just 2 points behind ? look at the bigger picture, rangers blew a 15 point lead. rangers should have been going into that match at least 6 points clear but didnt. celtic played there hardest month in december & pulled through every game getting 3 points from every game.now rangers have motherwell st johnstone transfer saga & a tax case (remember admin ?) all in jan. plus another cup game.

lets see if jelavic plays a full 90min between motherwell & st johnstone & who ever else in jan.

leagues not over tomorrow but bigger picture is we some how clawed that lead back that quick & now top of the league,go back 3 months ago to when rangers were 15 points clear? they could go into admin & still be top,not now.fire sale in jan to pay the tax bill & to run the club to the end of the season or go into admin & stay 2nd & with motherwell 3rd with 2 games in hand ?

good luck

lenny

Ok we managed to blow a 15 point lead but did u lot not blow a lead with 4 games to go last year?

Thats the past.

this is the present.

as above good luck.

lenny

1967 is in the past but u still go on about it Lenny krankie

So is 54 league titles ? & for the record i dont go about shouting 1067 etc ;)

tbh your krankie banter is like your club.sh*te

lenny

Have you forgotten Celtics run that got them into that mess in the first place? Yes its a very impressive run of form but you have been just as pish as us this season overall. Celtic will most likely bottle it as they are not a team of champs. How many medals do that team have? Timalloy reckons that team will dominate for years to come, haha. They're all on their way out as well come the summer, Forrest, Kayal, Hooper, Ki, etc. The Rangerstaxcase was a good laugh by the way Tim ya donk!

Raab

That's your opinion about the krankie jokes but I think it's funny so it will continue until the boring tax talk stops, 6 months of tax talk and all of a sudden u and timalloy krankie want to talk football again.

So Celtic managed to catch up the apparent 15 point headstart Rangers had at the beginning of the season.........what do you mean, Rangers built up the "15" point gap due to Celtics bad form.....Some Celtic fans seem to have forgot that! Any nugget would realise Rangers would drop points and Celtic would catch up. There really is nothing between these two sides, only half way through the season so next half should be good. Two points, as we have seen at this time of year, is nothing!

Yas fuel to my fire love it.

1st of we lose a number of players through injury,every defender bar mathews was injuried at one point during our bad run while we were playing in europe. aye europe the place rangers failed at too, anyway playing twice a week while rangers have a night off we still claw back the ledley sorry lead.in august we lost to st johnstone & like any manager they blow there top & most of the players had to lick there wounds,everyone bar commons who caused a up roar & made it worst.while still playing towards the end of group games we had the hardest month of december old firm hearts etc but still put the presure on rangers before you know it rangers crack we get a 8 game run (rather late than never) & they beat rangers at home to go top.

a rangers team that have nothing to offer & have played average at best all season,celtics problems early on was the lost of izzy,brown etc then the rest followed now all these players are back & not even in the starting 11 it gives us a boost. rangers lose naismith & there lost.your super striker doesnt look intrested & tried to 'show off' by acting like a clown trying to attempt a overhead kick.twice.davis was still on the team bus when the game was on. rangers signings cant get a game or if they do they get subbed even if there the best players on the park for their team (aluko & wallace)

AND on top of that shambles jelaflop has his bags packet ready to go,whyte cant run a raffle never mind a football club.ally doesnt even have a say on whats going on,watching him during the game he looked lost then there is the tax case.....need i say more ?

oh yeah, mind the gap ;)
lenny

Lenny,

I see you are still playing the old injury card. Celtic fell 12 points behind Rangers because they were pash, it was nothing to do with injuries. Celtic have a big enough to cope with 6/7 injuries so don't give us your pash.

Celtic have been at full strength all season, even with injuries.

When Rangers beat Celtic at Ibrox yous had a full strength team at the time yous had 6/7 players injured.

So please....don't talk pash about injury problems.

TonyTheGer

Haha brilliant Lenny! You never made it into europe either you got in on a technicality! And where were Celtic last season in Europe? we had far more europian games last season than you this season because we actually did well. You also had your full strength team most of the season and failed! We lost Jela for months and Miller in Jan (Hooper still couldnt catch his goal tally). At one point we had Diouf up front at Celtic park but you still couldnt win the league could you? So shut your puss about europe because that is basically the same team as last season you have. Europe came too early for our new team and we didnt deserve to go through. Your no Champs Lenny but we are so get it right up you!!

Raab

30 Dec 2011 07:57:11
If jelavic is sold who do we sign?

Nobody

Sandaza n the boy from falkirk.
j1985

30 Dec 2011 06:51:21
Just a question for the bears? Do u think if we win 1-0 and they got a goal that never was, do u think it would just have got brushed under the carpet? Not a chance whatever way u look st it we got robbed, I knew as soon as collum got this game any big 50/50 calls would have gone against us.

Grow up man ffs, that was in the 6th minute, where were we for the rest of the game ? And where have they been for the past two f***ing MONTHS ? Excuses don't work, you sound like one of the bottom feeders from " parasites " OOOoops, paradise !...... Get over it, we lost 'cause we played cr@p

If the goal was given don't you believe their bottle would have crashed as their mob would have got on their backs.
Keep believing

Did anyone think it was a goal at the time? Doubt it. It took a few camera angles to show it had crossed the line. It wasn t a 'goal' so lets just get on with it, don t lower ourselves to the paranoia brigade levels.

30 Dec 2011 03:25:51
how do people think bartley played the other night a thought he played alright considering we got beat

Ego way to big nowhere near as good as he thinks he is

Hes a disgrace

30 Dec 2011 02:42:27
people say ally isn't the man for the job because of the signing but we spent very little and there wasn't much rangers could do with so much little money so lets have a look shall we

transfers in summer 2011
all players signed

lee Wallace
£1.5 m
boconegra
£800.000
Matt McKay
£300.5000
bedoya
undisclosed
goian
undisclosed

players sold in januray

bougherra sale
£ 1.7m

charlie Adam money
£800 000

so when we look at it rangers have spent basically nothing so how can anybody say look at allys signings when this quite clearly states there has been nothing spent it was just crap replacements which isn't allys fault and i could trust ally if he had good cash he would be able to bring in good players but he cant wave a magic a wand and say i want any say give me any player i wont for £300.5000 he can only play what he has got he can only spend what he has got and three of the players he has brought have actually been good signings goian Wallace and boconegra so i think people shouldn't be so harsh on super ally as i know he will become a better manager it is just his first season and he will better soon which i dont think he has done to badly maby we were 15 points clear but there must be something good that he got to be fifteen points clear anyway it is usually close at this time of year with it being 1 or 2 points clear for one of the old firm teams just unfortunate it is celtic the now but we will be back and were not going down without a fight cmon the gers 4 in a row

campbell

Sorry i meant players sold in the summer

What about Ortiz, Bedoya and McKay they have been gash, and they were signed by McCoist?

DazzaBhoy

Read the whole post before writing stupid reply

campbell