Rangers Banter Archive April 30 2014

 

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30 Apr 2014 22:37:18
Well am shocked and stunned ally is backing mr Wallace. Now we know Ally's not good with figures but even he must know that's a 100% record he has on backing-whyte, green, mathers, probably missed a few out can be a 100% sure, can we Ally

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If there was a monkey standing in the marble staircase wearing a red jacket with a sticker saying chairman ally would back it 100%

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Where has Ally come out and openly backed Wallace? I live in Australia so I'm limited to internet and word of mouth to find info so would welcome any links or more info.
Thanks.

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Dont u get the bush telegraph out there cobber

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Post #3. We've Supporters clubs, like every other country. The DR (BLAH) and fans forums like these. The CRO, S of S, etc,, these are our "bush telegraph" as you put it. Most folk in Australia live on or near the coasts and cities.
Regardless, we are all in the dark to a certain extent as to the TRUE and HONEST financial state, and which direction our club is heading, with regards to our future between the current board Dave King et all.
We are not so blind to see that the current position we are in is not good financially with claims and counter claims. Also the boards comments which contradict themselves.
Well done to the fans/shareholders who've stuck their heads above the trenches to bring the deceptions and contradictions made by the board to the attention to relevant authorities.
I hope all the wrong "dooers" within the club past, and present are brought to task on this.
All Bears want our club back with integrity, honesty and to be fiscally prudent.
Follow Follow even from afar.

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Another Chief Exec is given the dreaded McCoist vote of confidence.

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30 Apr 2014 21:15:04
how would fans who were putting up there season book money feel if it went to re sign Cabari?

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Surely that won't happen!

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Hi les we will be lucky if we can sign the Broo after this extended shambles! You know we could lose at least 8 of the first team and we still wouldn't be further forward, everybody with any sense and any genuine rangers fans can clearly see youth is the answer get rid of these parasites and cleanse the club

RR

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Not a hope in hell, we tried to shift him last summer. Some Greek team came in for him but he wouldn't take a drop in wages. which speaks volumes.

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Equally as bad as giving d king the money and not getting into ibrox without coughing up again

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Hear he maybe re signing that's all, roll up roll up

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Impossible if mcoist resigns him I will personally come tae murray park and pipe the two of them out the door

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30 Apr 2014 20:20:56
Sg75 what a great post! My sentiments exactly, no question ally has not got what it takes at all, but you could never bin a manager in our situation! Major house cleaning needed first but how I just don't know, I really fear for us now, wonder how many season tickets sold so far? Wish king would put up or shut up! Surely him and his so called backers can put together a deal bite the bullet and buy them out! If not we all will all be back to square one at the very best

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30 Apr 2014 19:51:04
A lot of ally bashing going on here today. His skills as a manager, i'll never defend because he just ain't got it. But come on, the enemy here is the board, past and present, not the manager. We'll get a new manager when ally gets found out in the championship, if we survive long enough.

But to put him in the same league as whyte, green, ahmed, stockbridge, laxey, margerita, blue pitch, the easdales and now wallace and our missing chairman etc is wrong, listen to yourselves ffs and don't make ally the scapegoat.

We need a change of board, ownership and fresh investment now or its game over. If we survive the summer, Then we can worry about who manages the team.

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The games a bogey and Ally has done nothing to support the fans concerns. He has simply played dumb when it has suited, backed various charlatans when it suited, claimed no responsibility when it suited and had plenty to say when it suited. Don't forget that the fans were sceptical of Green when he arrived and as a result were not buying season books. A wee endorsement from Ally and they were queuing up at Ibrox being offered cups of tea. Ally is a million miles away from being solely responsible but his lack of concern for anything other than himself at the expense of the club, the fans and some former teammate s leaves a bad taste in my mouth. His legend is done for me and to be honest I'm now wondering what kind of person he was when playing for us all those years. I cannae even listen to the man now. Thank God for the mute button.

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Your post is confusing to say the least. Some of his statements have just been as bad as the ones you mention. He has insulted fans intelligence by claiming he didn't know how much he was getting paid and by his continual support of the all charlatans you mentioned. Ally has to share his part of the blame for what's happened and the sooner he is gone the better

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Well said, been saying for long enough the football will take care of itself. The REAL problem lies in the ownership.

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Sorry SG75, but McCoist is as culpable as most of the people you mention. He was used, knowingly or otherwise, but was happy to take the rewards.
You are making assumptions on some of them, but tha consistent factor through our demise has been McCoist.
We have suffered but he still laughs all the way to the bank and if you have read his latest interview he thinks he is Elliot Ness. Untouchable my ass.

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@ op its not ally bashing is simply the truth allys knew all along what's been going on he said he doesn't know about the finances but yet he's quick to point out wage ratio to turnover but does that include the managements wages and bonuses for them and players no it doesn't so come on he's clueless and every time he opens his mouth he hust makes himself look more of an person and now he's in with wallace just like he was with whyte green mather

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Not to mention his reward from Chico the vast amount of penny shares he got for endorsing Chico and co. Ally is only interested in ally and his crew from Murray park, not in the slightest bit interested in anybody else fans, staff or otherwise only his own well being and his rewards paid or otherwise. A full cleansing is required from Wallace and gromit the KRAYS and everybody else on the board clear the lot out not an ounce of honesty, transparency or truth in anybody at boardroom or senior management. NO MORE!


RR

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@2- confusing in what way? The way some of you are going on you'd think mccoist holds the deeds to ibrox and planned administration all along.

Did anyone blame advokaat for leaving us £80m in debt and all our players on EBT's? No, it was murray. So why blame mccoist for the financial wreck that we are now?

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@7 you say Ally isn't the right one to manage the club yet u would rather he continued in the championship. why? If he isn't good enough he should go now. Why would u want him to make a mess of it in the championship rather than get rid of him now and get someone in who could take us up? I put him in the same category as the ones you mention as he has found it so easy to lie to the fans e. g. Telling us he didn't know how much he was getting? Why should fans trust a man who openly lies to them? I agree we need a change in the boardroom but that should go hand in hand with a change of manager.

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Ally is up there along with the rest of them he has penny arcaid shares also he sold his soul for c green and everyone scince

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Stewie what I'm saying is if McCoist isn't up to the job, he'll get found out next season.

My point is that everyone is suddently blaming him for the mess we're in.

I think you're just looking for scapegoat so you can put a face to the money-grabbers that have ripped our club apart.

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@10 why would u want to keep a manager if your convinced he will fail in the championship. Would it not be better to get rid of him now and get someone else?

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@11 yes, for footballing reasons. Not the "ally is culpable as anyone for the current mess" nonsense your coming out with.

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30 Apr 2014 18:44:00
Straight forward question for fellow posters, if they know, are there credit facilities available with King/Gough?
My season ticket is already bought but the withdrawal of credit with the club is suicidal in my opinion. Maybe that is the plan, but who knows with this mob these days!

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30 Apr 2014 21:09:49
Rangers almost inevitably will go into administration in the not too distant future. The board of RIFC are owed around 18 million so will likely be entitled to take Ibrox and Auchenhowie in lieu of the debt. Once this happens RIFC become a property company with a nice earner on their hands and as landlords demand a couple of millions each year from whoever picks up the carcass of the club post admin, Dave King, Blue Knights or a combination of the two. Their choice will be take it or leave it.

I'm guessing this has been the plan for some time now.

Alternatively Craig Whyte re-appears yet again with his liability claim which could drag out for some time. Potentially a massive nightmare but one that could likely be settled out of court and still leave both sides reasonably happy.

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Naz, not the answer to the question. I agree with some of what you say but if the King/Gough set-up is to be backed is it cash only?

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Billyb I was reading if suppoerters put there money into 1872 and dave king doesn't get what he wants from board the supporters money will be returned to supporters account

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There certainly is credit facilities with king but its bears that's giving the credit and with no guarntee that they will get into games or there money back that's a cracker of a deal for dave king its win win

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Ibj d what are you talking about if dave king does not get what he is asking for the supporters will get every bit of money back ime begining to think you are working for the board cause you do nowt but support them and shun anything that's said against them is your non de plume an allies

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I definetly do not support the the board but right now I do not support king if he puts money on table rather than hotair and bluster I woul think about it but any one who asks supporters to give him there money without any input his self is not to be trusted u say money will be given back when? in time for 2015/2016 because the terms d king has asked for cannot be met ie your putting money into a scheme that has no chance of wworking beware

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Ibj d your putting money up for season book you might not get to use so what's the diference

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30 Apr 2014 16:59:54
there is one thing I don't understand about the financial position at ibrox how can they give macoist the same budget as last year when they don't know how much they will get in revenue and also why wallace would not give the balance at the tin tank could it be that they have had money from new shirt deal or money from another source because u would think with no credit facility available to finance season book purchases by bears they did not offer same deal then they would be assured of getting the money in stages something makes me think they maybe slightly better off than they are letting on maybe not a lot but some enough to let them soldier on and ride out storm

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Lbj, at the moment I think Wallace is just stalling for time. Maybe he has something up his sleeve, but I doubt it.
McC. is losing all of his street cred and I think he is being prompted in self destruction. Hopefully before it is too late.

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30 Apr 2014 10:00:03
i was talking to a fellow bear this morning and he says he is almost certain any shareholder can request to see the employment contracts off staff members including the board of directors at any given time also if the board makes a decision that that puts any shareholders at a disadvantage under company law he can contest it does ed or anyone know if this is correctas it would be interesting to find out the validity of this

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{Ed001's Note - that is correct according to the law, unless they have agreed otherwise prior to acquiring the shares. So they would need to check the fine print that they signed up to when buying the shares, in case they signed away any of their rights. If they have not signed away their rights, then legally speaking they are within their rights as shareholders to see that information.}

Just read a shareholdr turned up at ibrox and asked to see all directors contracts to be told he wasn't allowed this was advice from the legal team who represent rangers and the man called the police and now they are going to arrange a time to do it but this begs the question what are this board trying to hide and also if wallace knew this then why refuse to say if he's getting a 100% bonus this is the turning point in this whole mess but I've got a funny feeling the shareholder will not get tosee these before the st renewal deadline i'm absolutely shocked that nobody has already done this

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Well done that Bear. What do the journalists in Scotland do?

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Thebear82 I just heard it was willie paterson from airdrie he turned armed wi documents on company law they agreed to show docs at time to be agreed after wallace gets his hands on them but what I would like to know is the bit about board decisions that disadvantage shareholders who then can mount a legal chalenge because some decisions and statements will certainly put some shareholders at a disadvantage even the fact that the share price has plummeted through bad governance by the directors I bet there is quite a bit of mileage in that maybe something senior london bear could pick up on

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