Rangers Banter Archive September 02 2012

02 Sep 2012 22:30:57
After everybody calling for Ally's head at the start of the week i was wondering Ally and Villas Boas did their coaching at the same time what Manager would you choose between these two?

Call me biased, but ally any day. AVB has been terrible recently. Would never let him run my team. Anyway, I think was just coaching training the did together mate, psychological, building momentum n ****. Don't think it involved tactics or that. Could be wrong though, don't quote me.

Dtp89

02 Sep 2012 21:50:44
How many fans are feeling optimistic now about our future, biggest crowd in Scotland today,templeton looking good on his debut , Lewis McLeod looks solid young technical / hard graffter, and what young Barrie this wee man has done 100 x more than fleck ever done ? These guys are our future, well done Ally keep playing these youngsters , back line needs time to settle, Greek boy showing good signs time / games will tell.feel we could match Any SPL side this season if we get a good run in both cups
In ally we trust

Back to 'ally out' next week if your away from home!

If the defense can settle down and gel together then we're looking good. Agreed, up front we looked solid, but the acid test is breaking down these SFL3 teams at their own grounds on narrower pitches.

Its the 3rd division pal calm down

3rd div lol there's not a huge difference in terms of skill , div 3 players are not just fit enough , compared to the lower spl sides this rangers team at the moment is not just built for div 3 we want all cups

Fleck would run amok in the 3rd division.

02 Sep 2012 21:43:27
can u tell my if we can still sing players on a free ? {Ed039's Note - No, we are only able to register players under the age of 18 years of age)

Its a transfer embargo not a transfer bamboozle ...

God, how many times do we have to go through this question?

Andy

What kind of people are those,who on a regular basis post on here regarding signings how many times do you have to be told we can only sign players under the age of 18 give it a rest please.

02 Sep 2012 20:43:15
Another astonishing crowd today with it being the second largest crowd in uk this weekend. Bigger may I add bigger than Celtic v Hibs, quite unbelievable.

This attendance thing is getting boring , are you not ashamed that your attendances in the 3rd div are higher than they have been for years. I work with lads who haven't been to ibrox for years but have started going purely because of reasonable ticket prices. Anyone who thinks you are filling your stadium because your loyalty to your club are kidding themselves on. Ticket prices pure and simple end of ......Stevie {Ed039's Note - And replies like that aren't boring Stevie? You think of 48,000 fans that were there today, not a single one of them went out of loyalty, like me for example, did I only go because the prices are reduced? I can assure you my season book would have been bought regardless. Yes I agree that reduced prices have some significance as it makes it easier in the current climate for fathers to take their kids to games, but ther were 10s of thousands there today who would have been there this season one way or the other. Maybe the SPL can learn a lesson from the prices as surely it would make more sense to sell more seats at slightly reduced prices than have thousands of empty seats every week?)

Andyc
my my still talking shi* about the crowds and bragging rights your making youself look stupid.
the price per season tickets reflects the price of your playing ability and league you are in, stop comparing yourself to celtic season prices as a yearly ticket costs nearly triple of what your are paying..
so do the maths. that would mean celtic would fill 2/3 stadiums every 2 weeks per prices they charge. your prices are nothing to brag about and your stadium should be full every two week as the tickets are cheap dont forget that its nothing to brag about
but well done to real fans who understand this and fighting to keep there club afloat as there is a long way to go this season and the rangers need to make a lot more money than season tickets to keep afloat remember the league you are in and then compare yourself to that league then start bragging when you get back up to the premier division until then you cant compete :) {Ed039's Note - Triple the price, really? Are you being charged £750-800 per season book then because if you are then you are being ripped off!!)

Yes i agree ed that there is many supporters that would of been at ibrox today regardless of ticket prices but nowhere near 46,000, at the end of the day 46,000 x £28 is a helluva lot more money coming in than 46,000 x £16. Totally agree with you tho that lessons can be learned concerning overpriced tickets .......Stevie

Very good Ed, i like the OP, know many supporters that have started going to the games......they've never been before, yet have allegedly supported the old club for years! They're going along as the seasons are cheap and they get to watch a walkover every HOME game. (not many of them talk about away days though)

I have been a huge campaigner for cheaper tickets like in Germany where they have got fans back to football. We need to get the youth off the XBox'x and Playstations and back to following a club. Be it Aberdeen or Arbroath, Brechin or Berwick. Get clubs into Schools offer free tickets, put on face painting or shows for kids at half time. Allow alcohol at games (in moderation). In the Nou Camp you can buy beer in a plastic glass given to you by a vendor walking round the stands.

Time for the SFA to take a good look at football games. They should be events, not simply a 90 min game of football! If they want to improve our game and get the fans back they need to make sure we can take our kids, the vitriol coming from Celtic and "The Rangers" fans is driving folk away from football!

And incidentally do you believe that Sevco will get 48,000 in mid november when they're at home to Brechin or Peterhead? #HellNo

DazzaBhoy

@2. Triple the price? You couldn't beat hibs yesterday or Ross County recently... you should demand half your money back then as you've been ripped off.

You guys were saying that we would get 10-15000 if we were lucky. Making the point that you were wrong and you lot should be man enough to give credit where credit is due. These crowds in div three are incredible even if ticket prices were a third off. You are quick enough to criticise at any given opportunity, but don't recognise the facts.

So celtic can brag we made the most cash at every game ?? when is this petty stuff going to stop i made a post hear a while ago 90000 fans said they wanted 3rd in a signed protest so if they demanded 3rd then walked away it would be scandalous your the second biggest attendance in scotland why is it such a big deal

@2 -You are right in saying that the division you play in reflects the price of the ticket.
However the price has nothing to do with filling the ground. If certain individuals have been lost as season ticket holders from previous years then that would explain why i was able to purchase season tickets for my kids this season. If i was able to i would have bought them in previous years but the waiting list was too long.
What has Celtic's ticket prices got to do with your argument?
It's all about filling the stadium,and the Rangers fans are doing it,so how can you argue against that? Ibrox would still be filled regardless of the price,it doesn't make a blind bit of difference to me and the rest of the bears i go to the games with.
It would appear that CFC's fans are a lot more disgruntled right now than we are.
Funny old world isn't it?
P.O.B.

This is now my 12th season at Ibrox. I must be one unloyal fan, eh Stevie?

The whole attendance patter is getting boring now.

TTG

@ all the timmys above - our average home attendance for last season was 46,324, almost exactly the same as this season attendances to date, please move along to your next pointless post

JG

Celtic are taking half million more than rangers per game. x 20 games is 10 million difference. Also celtic had cl match in same week generating another 1.5 million. 6million for ki, 15 million champs league and If they come at least 3rd in cl group there will be more. I make that at least 30 million difference in one season. Thats the bottom line. Looks like bomber wasnt far off when he said 160 million to celtic.

Mibee Celts should lower prices then - been a long long time since they had a full house in the SPL - apart from the games with the Gers

!0) Falkirk in your second home game ever 26,000? Your attendance will dwindle as folk get bored watching Sevco hump silly wee teams. Also having to play games on a monday or thursday night as Celtic are playing a Champions League game on the tuesday or wednesday will start to annoy your fans

DazzaBhoy

Green said it will be full price next year lets see how many pay that for 2nd division

@13 - ok if we are splitting hairs our average LEAGUE attendance (yawn yawn this is tiring) was just over 46k almost the same (yawn yawn tiring now) as this seasons LEAGUE attendances, by the way i dont see the difference between going to a game on a tue, wed or thursday whats that all about, dont you think your obsession has gone too far now? lastly look at the top of the page you are on thats our name up there maybe you cant bring yourself to write it but heyho

This is my last post regarding crowds

JG

@13),

The game against Falkirk was a midweek match, people work during the week, many people work overtime, like myself. I'm pretty sure if we played Falkirk on a weekend it would have been next to a full house yet again.

TTG

Well said ED.
The attendances went up last season when we were in admin. Ticket prices were still Full price.....
Loyalty!!

Celtic.. 2nd best and always will be.
Dtp89

Or even 1970. Still higher up the mountain than the gers ever got. Its reality, deal with it.

Come on ed..
i know a slight exaggeration but you got the point i guess lol as its more than double celtic season ticket cost me around £540 and worth every penny as lenny seems to be heading the right way and players getting sold and new ones comming in is a step forward:)
the point im trying to get across is money earned from season tickets from therangers against the value of celtics season tickets there is no comparison.
but therangers and celtic need to make a lot more money than season tickets to make a profit in my opinion.
so comparing the rangers crowd to celtics is nieve as one is miles ahead of the other until the next 4 years and remember as therangers need to go through the leagues and it will get tougher and tougher and money must be made by the rangers as seeason tickets is no where near enough.

02 Sep 2012 20:15:20
Well the first fifteen minutes aside we cruised todays game. Defence still looks a bit dodgy though. Just hope that once they play a few more ganes together they'll improve. They'll need to against better teams in the cup draws.
A lot better going through midfield and going forward',and with one or two wee tweaks over the next few games we're looking okay.
In Ally we trust!
P.O.B.

Ally must stay. Oh how the might of elgin were humbled. That will shut them up, not so big headed now eh ? Bring on the famous queens park, they might have the biggest ground in the glorious div 3 but ally will show them. In ally we trust indeed.

02 Sep 2012 19:48:37
Another good day at Ibrox and another good show by the fans, over 46,000 and the highest attendance in Scotland this weekend.

The signings by Super Ally are good enough to see us through the transfer ban.

The defence was a bit shaky at the start but they haven't played competitive football together and will get better. The Greek right back looks good.

Midfield and the forwards will do the job for us. Templeton will shine all the way back to SPHELL.

I think Super Ally will show through time he is a decent manager that can put together a good team that plays attractive football.

02 Sep 2012 19:13:26
2nd biggest crowd in britain again biggest club in scotland badly missed by the idiots in the spl {Ed039's Note - The tit for tat crowd thing is starting to get boring now guys)

02 Sep 2012 18:55:29
Week in week out I sit at our game and can't believe how bad the ref and linesmen are today they were shocking!
I understand they are 3rd Div refs but a there a joke! Some of the tackles I seen to day were more like a street assault!
Big Craig {Ed039's Note - Division 1 or SFL, this was still a Category 1 ref, and some of the decision made today were woeful, MacLeod should have been sent off for one and the offside againt McCulloch was as poor a offside call I have seen made)

The referees are grade one officials same as the spl. Apparently due to the pressure of refereeing rangers with the big crowd etc. so no worse than they've always been.

The officials may be grade 1 - but I can't rercall any of then officiating at spl grounds (could be wrong)
the referee & stand side linesman especially were about 5 yards behind the game.

I don't mind a tackle, i played football in the days when tackling was allowed - but I'm worried someone is going to get seriously injured because of the leniency in this division.

bil72

02 Sep 2012 17:51:17
Lee mcculloch you a rangers great in my eyes, should've been captain at start of the season.

02 Sep 2012 14:34:28
Can someone help clear up a few things here regarding the transfer embargo? is it true we can still sign players to the club that are free agents (i.e - not attached to another club?) surely we are allowed to do this as although we are restricted from operating within a transfer window, is there anything to say the rangers football club can't employ staff members. If we are allowed to employ office staff etc then why can we not employ playing staff that are currently out of work? does anyone have the answer to that? cheers

Office staff don't require SFA registration

I watched deadline day transfers on sky i maybe wrong but am sure you signed 2 cleaners from motherwell and a tea lady from aberdeen and they where all registered on time they tried right up to the last min to sign more cover for the burger van but didnt go through in time so the queue will be a bit longer but you can still sign cleaners under 17 ...hope this helps

I heard the tea wummins good in goals.
just a thought.

How thick can you all be no means no stop thinking your new club can just try and cheat like the old one {Ed039's Note - Thick? Would you like to repeat that in English then)

02 Sep 2012 13:58:05
great signing david cooper templeton,
however,i fear it's a matter of time before he is long term injured due to some of these hammer throwers who will set about him in div3

I doubt Ian Black will tackle his team-mate ;)

Or Black at training !

I agree wont be long before mculloch or black injure him n training

02 Sep 2012 11:52:03
just like to say a big thankyou to the guys who didnt jump ship and to all the new guys that signed with the club, we may be in the 3rd Div but we still have a world wide brand name , these guys will always be remembered when we get back in the spl again , a big cheers again guys.

What like kirk broadfoot,most fickle fans in the world

02 Sep 2012 11:33:52
if you haven't already, I would advise going to youtube and watching the video titled 'Francesco Stella AC Siena 2010/11'. definately looks like a handful for defenders, not a striker though, looks to be more of an attacking wideman

Good shout mate, he looks pretty good, lets hope that he and Templeton will coax McCoist into playing passing FOOTBALL

Steady on poster one, lets not go daft. Guy does look well tricky though. Maybes too tricky as his team-mates all looked a bit surprised to be getting the ball. Still, sticky feet and he's got two of them. mon the teddies.

Everyone looks good on youtube! The clips only show the good bits lol

02 Sep 2012 09:34:01
Can someone please clear up where the negativity has come from on this page about Ian Black. Yes he crocked Jelavic with a crude tackle. But we cant exactly hold grudges after the whole Kenny Miller affair, we quickly forgot his past so to the "hes not fit to wear our shirt" brigade could yous explain your reasons for these comments please?

Graham

He is a thug on the park

Agree Graham i think Ian Black has been and will be a great signing for us.
Must admit though i didn't like him much at Hearts,seen him put a few bad tackles against a few teams.But he's a Ger now,and hopefully will be better guided by Ally,Durranty and Kenny MacDowell.
P.O.B.

Reply number 1) I think his behaviour since he has signed for us has been fine. I think he will have been told what is expected of him and has behaved accordingly. We have signed one of the best central midfielders in the SPL. I cannot see the problem.

We are all entitled to our own opinion I guess.

Hes 20x the player Edu was and he signed for us surely we owe him a chance

Number 4, if black is x20 times the player edu is? Why is black playing Scottish 3rd division and edu playing epl football, stop kidding yourself on, by the way I'm not the biggest edu fan.

@4: why has an EPL team not signed him then but one has signed Edu?

02 Sep 2012 03:00:11
Hearts HAPPENED to play at anfield this past week, and they HAPPENED to no get a doing (mainly coz Liverpool are utter Barry white) and Templeton HAPPENED to score, thanks in the main to an assist from the world's most over-rated goalkeeper (quite an accolade when you think on Mr '$hite even before the Reading head batter' Cech too!). Gers v elgin, hearts v whatever rubbish they're playing tomorrow- what really is the difference? Oh yeah, the boy's doubled his money taking part in the former.

Try and face facts and get over it my bitter jambo chums. :-)

Idont think it was the hearts supporters that slagged the boy off it was some clown at boardroom level that published the bad **** about the boy , so lets cut the hearts supporters a bit of slack.

02 Sep 2012 00:58:48
Another 2 pts dropped by the dark side - if this had happened in a normal ( rangers included) season, there would be the usual ( a la last season) shout for nellys head, because we all know they can be a bit impatient.
But unfortunately for fthe SPL & the radio Clyde commentators ; quote - ' I'm sure sellick would be quite happy to lose the first four games in the league to make sure they qualified for the CL!! & still win the SPL
a lot of integrity & respect there eh!
Problem is ( as I've said before) there will be no challengers by Xmas
1/50 by the bookies says it all - enjoy ghirls!

bil72

No embarassment drawing 2 games in spl after champs league efforts, what's embarrassing is drawing 2 games in scotlands 4th tier with a squad of internationals and epl/spl experienced

Can you explain the difference ... seem to notice your calling for mccoists head you drop points every away game in the worse league in scotland and are signing spl players to buy the 3rd division so whats your point ??

I agree with your post a bit. The good thing that rangers are out of the spl means we don't need to worry about dropping points too much because if either side lost points on the Saturday then the attention turned to the Sundays game. That said rangers in the spl with the team they have just now then I still wouldn't worry about dropping points.

Champions league is celtic next goal... However long it lasts it makes one thing.... Money 15/20m from just playing 6 games if we get through into cl or Europa then it's still money in the bank! In fact the money we make in Europe will be more than your consortium!

I'm sure green and co wouldn't mind a slice of what celtic have just now

As for the transfer saga green has being playing through puppet strings again David Cooper Templeton... And the fans go nuts... Hearts are a phone call away from going into administration too mad vlad just needs to cut ties and do a whyte

Lenny

What your first slice of decent money in 5years lmao RTID

Leeroy

First decent money in 5 years? We also got it four year ago then £10m for bringing a lad through the ranks 2 years ago. Apologies for my ignorance but I'm confused as to why you find it so funny that Celtic have made some decent money when your club is scrapping it out with the worst senior teams in Scotland. Enlighten me please.

Mikey Bhoy

@3 You slagged off SDM for the 'every £5' quote, listen to the fhans now about money.

(6) theirs a difference between earning money than spending it like sdm said one protects your club and all its history the other gets you liquidated ... can you not see that ?

It's kind of Rangers to sign all the other teams' best players to help Celtic too.

01 Sep 2012 23:47:40
My squad for tomorrow
Alexander
Arygoyou faure cribari wallace
Mckay black mcculloch sheils templeton
Sandaza
Subs: kyle perry mcleod crawford stella

Stella? She still works in the Rovers Return
Pretty fit though.

01 Sep 2012 23:45:47
Is there any chance that the doom and gloomers on here can check themselves in to a clinic somewhere for a wee dose of reality?
What is the problem with you's people?
Are you prepared to support the club,
back the manager and the team,or just moan about everything until the end of the season? Is that what you call being a Rangers supporter?
Sick to death of reading posts from so called Bluenoses constantly dissing the club,the manager and the chairman.
Have you forgotten what the club has been through in the last 7 months?
If you are a true "Teddybear" you would get behind the club with everything you have,there are plenty of others trying to shoot us down without our own kind doing it. We are where we are,and we are Rangers. It's time to sit back and enjoy the journey back to the top.
The club needs us more now than it ever has how about doing what supporters are meant to do instead of whinging like some spoiled wee glory hunter who dropped his lollipop in a puddle.
We are Rangers,Super Rangers.
Always have been,Always will be.
Who are you?
P.O.B.

I hate these type of posts from so called Rangers fans, you guys are part of the problem!

I'm sorry but if Rangers are playing poor and can't string three passes together then I'm not going to say 'not too worry Rangers' or 'it doesn't matter'. I will never accept being second best, never and these Rangers fans that will accept it should start supporting Celtic!

Good post POB. However they will always be doom and gloomers. Most of which have probably never stepped foot inside Ibrox.

GDog
RTID

Well said.

Early contender for 'Post of the Season'

Well said POB i had been thinking the same thing myself. we could easily have been put out of the game completely and we should be happy that we have a team on the park to go and support and with the players who have commited to signing for us when we are in the 4th tier in scotland.

JG

I agree with most of what you say and we shoul be backing the team. Where I disagree is the point about sitting back and enjoying the ride. We did this with SDM, the vast majority of us didn't question anything and look where we ended up. By all means enjoy ourselves but never again fail to question anything we disagree with or don't understand, because we know where that ends up.

Jackie

Behind what you mean 100% but after what we have been thro you could understand some concerns time will see us come to the top.
the time to moan was before now is the time to back up the new team

Spot on.
You take the good with the bad and you roll with it. Been thro plenty of good times and bad times but I still wake up every morning a bear.
Well said P.O.B.

Get behind the team at games certainly, agree 100% with that but there's no way fans shouldn't still be questioning Charles Green.

I said at the time he must have known a CVA wouldn't be accepted but he still claimed that HMRC had given him the nod that it would be. He also claimed to have been to Switzerland for a meeting with UEFA on behalf of Rangers but they flat out denied this. He's made a whole bunch of other claims that have turned out to be false and I don't trust him one little bit.

BARNEY BEAR

@1 - Nobody is suggesting sitting back and doing nothing if things go pear shaped,but we're only three games into the season ffs.
We've offloaded twenty six players in one way or another,and only got the go ahead to play football two months ago.
All i'm saying is follow the team with your heart and soul and see what develops.This can only help the team,and i'm sure when the board see our commitment then they will back the manager in the future. Yes CG and his investors may well be looking to make a profit,but if they get us to a position where the club is viable enough for them to earn money,then that means they've done a good job.If they make a pigs ear of it,they won't make money,as nobody will be interested in taking over from them. Simples. Support the team now. Whinge if things are not going well,but at least give the manager a chance to balls it up.Some people are doing neither three games into the season with a completely new squad of players.
P.O.B.

@9 You did'nt offload players.They walked away.

We were outplayed on numerous occassions last season and already a few this, this is a chance for the manager to learn and grow as well, but he has no idea about tactics (not one other team in English or Scottish leagues plays 3 at the back ) or playing people out of position (why buy defenders to play in midfield etc?) thats why we are struggling in div 3, McCoist must go or we will not get through the leagues and will end up a 1st/2nd division side in real trouble. My loyalty is to RANGERS not an individual not even my hero Super Ally {Ed001's Note - Man City have been playing 3 at the back regularly.}