Rangers Banter Archive September 02 2011

02 Sep 2011 22:45:39
so much for danny wilson not even in liverpools 25 man squad

Think he's been found out. One of these guys who does well at the OF as a youngster when given the chance, moves on to "big" things, and then slips away into obscurity.

In the name of the we man white pay up or move on let ally get on with it and stop holding on

Players under 21 do not need to be listed in the 25 man squad.

Yep, under 21s don't hhave to be registered. Its an incentive to allow young players to be brought through the youth system and also ensure that clubs can never say that they don't have enough players due to injury, suspension etc. as they can just promote a home grown player. Muzz

02 Sep 2011 20:13:57
diouf,weiss, foster ,bougherra, little, and maybe fleck, hutton and beattie possible 7 out 7 in.

And Walter said the squad was too small last season.

Out of the 7 you posted how many of them started every week? 1. Away you go back to your own page and celebrate yous getting back in the Europa cup.
We Are The People.
In Ally We Trust.

The only player you named who was thought of as first choice was bougherra the rest were what you would call squad players so then the seven players signed/loaned (bartley)are surely 1 up on the team that brought us 3 in a row.shaun h

You will need to wait and see the players you signed play over a few games before deciding on whether they are better or worse than last seasons squad.

You named 8 players there.

02 Sep 2011 18:57:44
Rangers have kept the nucleus of last seasons squad together with mcgregor,whittaker,davis and wylde all signing new contracts.
Bedoya,bocanegra,goian,wallace,mckay,ortiz have been added to the squad+bartley is on loan.
The s.p.l teams and the revenue generated is not minimal compared to the e.p.l and the championship.

02 Sep 2011 18:37:30
all considering we havent done to bad this summer transfer wise we would of added a couple more better players if it wasnt for the poor european results and the tax case, must be costing the club near £25m in total-i support whyte and ally big time although im not sure whyte is 100% behind ally he wont say otherwise though- ally will get a season to show his mettle-i think this time next season could be the biggest summer for us in a long time-we must win the spl and make the cl, add some much needed striking options and right winger with ability-the progress of our young guns could be a huge factor in who comes in-95% of rangers fans will not wait for youth to develope and get experience but harp on about giving young`uns a chance but cant accept poorer results-ortiz will be lucky to last the season he doesnt look like he`s cut out for the spl-bedoya and mckay could prove very good buys i relly hope they hit the ground running-all in all i feel we are stronger all over the park except upfront and rw glad beatties away,healy isnt worth a deal could of got better on a bosman so to weir i think these were panic deals-waste of time-wages money should of went on getting a decent player in
WATP
steve the ger

02 Sep 2011 18:00:15
the only jack anory, is the made up bid of 9 mill coming form the mouth of Whyte.
bulls**t story, bulls**t Whyte, and we all know Whyte is full of b/s
wheres the 18 mill he was gonna spend this transfer window, maybe playing Football Manager too long, and in dreamland

02 Sep 2011 17:29:40
if you are a true fan and sick of the way our club is being run - please sign this online petition on the link below and we can get some momentum towards a protest against craig tight - its time the fans voted with their feet. lots of people on here talk about it, but nobody has a plan. lets start by all signing this and get it known to the press.

please post the link on every forum you visit.

thanks
loyal bear

www.saverange.epetitions.net/

Get behind the team and backroom staff ya spoiled person a rangers supporters for life not just for the good times

Little bit of sarcasm in use of term 'loyal' by any chance?

I am a rangers fan till I die ya dafty! It doesn't mean you can't critisize the owners of your team for not delivering on promises! He has let us down, he has no money - when we are in administration don't say I didn't warn you - some fans on here need to wake up, whyte has invested FA and if we lose the tax case we are screwed, what the fuk is the plan for this? We need answers, why was there no 15m? Why didn't we even spend 5m on players? Where is his investment? We are using season ticket money and we haven't even spent 2m of the 20m we bring in from that! The fans need to make a point that we don't accept lies.

If i was a gers fan i would be so pissed off with the silence from the board, if read it right rangers owes 100mill to the taxman not the 2 mill the papers have been saying and as celtic man i know we need rangers not to go under. whyte cant be trusted and mcoist is no walter smith! so come may and celtic have win the title what then cos whyte lied already wheres the 5mill he said was for new players.your support will have to kick this clown out of rangers before he ruins your beloved gers.peace out

02 Sep 2011 16:46:36
Rangers Fans - Please please please stop supporting Craig Whyte. Our club's future is at stake here, we need to start to do something to protect our club. If we all sit back and think this will work out - it wont. It will end with us in administration and whyte off with a load of money. WE need to start protests now and get the RST to start plans for the future. The fans need to buy the club, this is what we need and we need to start the preperation now. Craig Whyte knows Rangers will lose the taxcase, thats why the takeover was strcutured the way it is. He has so far put up £1. He has spent FA net, the screens at ibrox are the same, and as far as i have seen the food outlets at ibrox are the same as before (i sit in east enclosure) How much more evidence do we need that this guy is not going to progress us as a football club.

...Never seen so much nonesense in one paragraph in my life..if Rangers go into administration how does Mr Whyte go off with loads of money exactly?...Whyte already knows we will lose the tax case?...where are you getting that from?..if your names not Declan you might want to think about changing it..WATP...

Your a mug mate if you disagree with the main post - he is an imposter. You must be really thick not to spot this guy! Why would the previous board including John gregg say this wasn't good for the club? These guys at the real fans. If you trust whyte and Ellis fire away mate but ye a nugget

02 Sep 2011 16:12:15
************* Rangers Window Shopping**************
Players In Players out
Juan Manuel Ortiz £300.000. Andrew Shinnie free
Lee Wallace £1.5m. Bougherra £1.8m
Dorin Goian £400.000. James Beattie freed
Kyle Bartley loan. (Andy Little loan)
Alejandro Bedoya £250.000. (Additional revenue)
Carlos Bocanegra £300.000. Charlie Adams £700.000
Matt McKay £250.000 (Mikel Arteta)
(Development fee nominal)

TOTAL £3,000,000. TOTAL ££2,500,000
NET SPEND ££500.000

02 Sep 2011 16:40:50
for those who doubt jelavic bid was made

sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/rangers/268669-sven-goran-eriksson-critical-of-rangers-handling-of-jelavic-bid/

thats the 6.5 mill bid no1 disputes that its the 9mill that never happened open ur eyes

02 Sep 2011 15:26:02
Hold on a minute, Bartley's back here, most fans don't want Diouf this time back around and Weiss was hardly seen as a 'marquee' signing at the time! Easy with the doom and gloom, Europe's been a nightmare but our squad's good enough to compete for the league, and will at least have a strong foundation for europe next season. A couple of bigger signings in either January or next season and we're grand!

No chance of us buying any1 in jan more chance of losing a few

02 Sep 2011 14:41:06
To the moron wondering why Liverpool thought they could STEAL Jelavic for 11 mil when Man U offerd 12 mil. OMFG! Man u have been nowhere near Jelavic. IF Liverpool did make a bid it was around 5 mil which was then gazzumped by Leicster with 6.5 bid. There was no late bid of 9 mil for 3 reasons. He's not worth that kind of money, he was away with Croatia so there wudn't be enough time to do a medical and Rangers cudn't name the club because there wasn't 1. I think most intelligent gers fans will agree with this. The fact whyte and Smith are pulling these little stunts is proof they dont care about the fans and think we're morons.

I agree with what your saying but the fact he wa away dosent matter . They can agree a deal subject too a medical like we did with tge americans and work permits

Wouldnt say all three points were valid .... jelavic is worth whatever a team wil pay for him .... was/is mcgeady worth the money spent on him ?! its not about worth its about what it takes. From what i have heard Leicester came in with initial 6.5m bid ... liverpool came in with a slightly better bid both were rejected, Leicester came in with an improved bid again knocked back.

I think Whyte knew the reprecussions of selling Jelly without a genuine replacement and there was no time for that at all. My worry is that a 9m bid did come in but we wont name the bidder so they can come in again in Jan and get him. Do i think 9m is a good deal ... course it is, will we be able to attract a player of similar ability again thats the doubtful part im afraid.

Germinator

02 Sep 2011 13:54:46
Rangers PR is non existent and has been now for 5 or more years. Its clear that Celtic are too focussed on what we do or don't do. Lawell is a f*nny. His 'tongue in cheek' remark has made him look even more foolish than normal. However what cant be ignored is that there is a campaign out there to destroy Rangers, to destroy our name. To tarnish our history with sh*te! The BBC are at it with doctoring interviews, Celtic are at it with letters to UEFA and as e know Lawell and Co. even people within the HMRC divulging privileged information are at it! Without being paranoid this is obvious.

Regardless of what you think of Whyte, its time once again to stand together and support our beloved club. To unite and show everyone else
'WE DONT CARE'
The PR starts in the stands, on the web sites wherever whenever.

So lets get it up em all' Support Ally Support YOUR club

GDog
WATP

Aye the BBC are more biased than lawwel!

I don't really see how Celtic can be blamed for Rangers failings in the transfer market and subsequent ridicule, many of your own fans have questioned the transfer policy and the affect it has had on the clubs credibility, as for the letter to uefa, this had nothing to do with CFC, It may well have been someone claiming to support the club but I for one don't think you can blame CFC in any way for this or indeed our supporters as a whole. I'm sure If the various parcels etc sent to members of staff at CFC last season had been blamed on RFC or their support you would have been up in arms for being targeted for this because of 1 persons actions. There is also no reason to suggest that the info regarding HMRC is being leaked from within HMRC and would suggest Its far more likely to be coming from within Ibrox. Never the less It has nothing to do with CFC. Also making stories up about bids for players is a bit silly, despite various claims no club has yet admitted the bid was from them and it now looks like Gordon Smith is the alleged bidder. I would also say that anyone taking offence at Peter Lawells comments is lacking any sense of humour and indeed really should take a look at themselves. I thought It was quite funny and was lighthearted banter, and also quite refreshing given the fact last season was severely overshadowed by so many sinister and nasty actions. Walter Smith was the master of digs at Celtic so take it for what it was, a bit of fun at Rangers expense, no big deal. I totally agree you should support your club and manager, imo Ally mcCoist has been treated like sh*te by your owner and deserves better as a club icon but I think your anger should be vented at your owner, not CFC.
HH.

Mark

MArk just thikn about what ur typing before u type it .... half of that is pretty hypocritical when you read it back. To sayu that a celtic fan was "an acting fan"wen sending letters but the people that sent parcels were defo 100% comitted gers fans. The stuff about bids coming in but no named club, jeez are you that daft that you dont realise that Lawell has done this before on more than one occasion. The original poster didnt say that celtic had anything to do with gers transfer policy why u went there I dont have a clue?

I think you should read what you type, if you can understand it cause I'm struggling. I commented on the transfer dealing in light of the OP claiming RFC's reputation had been tarnished by others, making the point they had damaged their own reputation with their dealings. At no point did i say RFC or their fans were responsible for parcels sent, I stated your club and fans would be upset if they had been blamed as a whole for 1 persons actions whatever team he/she supports. I used this as a comparison for the OP claiming Celtic were responsible for the letter sent to uefa when Its quite obvious it was 1 persons action, again regardless of what team he/she supports. As the OP referred to RFC and their reputation being damaged by other influences outside Ibrox I pointed out that making up false bids to appease the fans was not a particularly sensible thing to do and doesn't do their reputation alot of good, and again self inflicted, not CFC's fault. The OP seems intent on blaming everyone but his own club for the position of ridicule they now find themselves in. As for a proud history that is in threat of being tarnished, all I have to say on that matter is It took your club 116 years to change your Transfer policy, I'm sure you know what I'm referring to, If that what some of you lot take pride in then good luck to you.

Mark

Is this mark mcginley?

02 Sep 2011 13:19:14
Has anybody stopped to think of the scenario we would have faced if Mr Whyte did not take over the Rangers, shagger, davis, jelly, probably naismaith as well, would all have been sold by Lloyds and the cash would have gone straight to the bank. Lets be thankful that we avoided that scenario and get behind the team

JG

We will go into adminstration soon - you are obviously an absolute dumb ass if you actually think Craig Whyte is good for Rangers. What has he done???

Why would the previous board say he was no good????

If he was going to take us forward they would have been over the moon - they are true rangers men

02 Sep 2011 11:39:31
With everyone fit this would be my team- mcgregor,whittaker,goian,bocanegra,wallace,naismith,bedoya,davis,mckay,jelavic,lafferty and there's ness to slot into midfield as good cover if he can keep him self fit with wylde also being good cover only position I feel we didn't strenghten was with a striker

Agree looks ok, we also have papac and bartley to come in, mcmillan and perry can challenge for a game here and there, pity we never strenghtened up front though

JG

What so wallace in front of papac just coz hes a new signing? Behave yourself papac has been our most consistent player since he joined.

I think edu for right back

02 Sep 2011 10:04:53
rangers are in a sticky situation but the facts remain. If you owe the tax man money, they will ransack your place looking for anything of value that you might of been bought instead of paying your tax bill. That includes Jelavic. And the fact is that they just try to sell these things for what they originally cost or less. not really interested in making rangers a profit by selling there players and goods. If they can get back any monies paid they are happy.
Some wallopper is banging on about £15m. What a joke. Ashley young £16M and Jelavic £15 - Crouch £12M and Jelavic £15M. these are proven players who have played in the best league in the world for years and competed at the top international tournaments and in europe. Not against Scotlands finest ya balloon!! get a grip, Jelavic will be sold in January adn they will take whatever they can get. that will be the order of the HMRC.

Since when did hmrc move into the transfer market you numpty.

I never said,HMRC are going into transfer market, you numpty, I said they will instruct Rangers to accept any bid in or around what they paid for him. That is how HMRC work. They ar not there for rangers to make a profit they ar ethere to get the assets and sell them for what they cost, you numpty. SO shut your pathetic mouth and learn the facts. you numpty

If ranting on about Rangers financial affairs helps deflect your attention from your own teams shortcomings then batter in sad act. We are top of the league so why don't you worry about how your going to catch up instead of bumping your gums about our Clubs business. Three in a row and counting!

Follow Follow.

Leigh Griffiths was sold by Dundee to Wolves for LESS than they payed Livingstone for him FACT. (always wanted to do that). That was because the adminstrator was over seeing the deal. IF the same situation was going on at Ibrox ALL your saleable assets (players) would be going and as there would be no money for there wages, the adminstator would release any big earner he could not move on. Not saying this will happen to Rangers (they might not go into administrationI, but it if you go into administration then you will loose all your top players and will not be able to replace them. i.e if Jelly goes for 27 million pounds you wont get to bring anyone in.

David

02 Sep 2011 09:46:18
Not to worried with the form he's in. Lets see how commited he is anyway now he knows Liverpool were interested. Celtic will have the league 1 by february.

Re: did u just coy and paste this from last years comments, and the year before, and the year before ........

but hey i heard u lot celebrate 2nd spot ?!

Germinator

02 Sep 2011 08:04:26
Boys keep the faith we will win the league, we have only lost 1 player from the same starting team that won the last 8 games in a row last season, and we have added to tht and tied up all our assets, aye whytes talked s**t about the money we were ment to be seeing but I can only imagine if he never bought our club we would all be here fuming that we have sold jelavic mcgregor and davis for about 3 million each. Boys shouting for mccoists head give the man a chance , yes we should be putting them teams out of europe but ally will hopefully learn from it. I've watched celtic they look good but they can't cope with pressure and they lose games , rangers scrape games but come away with wins that's signs of a determined team boys let's get behind our manager I beg, celtic do it there behind there manager all the way and he is hopeless , we should be doing the same boys cause were better than them we are glasgow rangers and we welcome the chase :) my opinion boys I'm not critising anyones opinion but were better than the way were acting

Billy88

02 Sep 2011 02:29:45
Gordon smith any1?

Good enough player in his day but may be past it dont know

Last seen entering the Sun Room in Kilmarnock stating he was 'glad to be back'

I would welcome any response from someone who can tell us just what he does for his cash.

02 Sep 2011 01:46:41
Ally 1st 11 for dundee utd game,
Shagger,
Broadfoot, goian, bartley, papac,
Ortiz, edu, mcculloch, davis, naismith, jelevic, what u think?

You forgot wallace

It is right that you forgot Wallace, but oh so wrong that you remembered Edu and Mcculloch

Why have you got four defenders and 6 midfielders and no strikers

Are you mental youre team would get us relegated

You really want Broadfoot and Ortiz in your first 11 you are having laugh. Ortiz not reaching the mark and Broadfoot never will and will continue to cost us goals. 4 in row no chance with those players.

And whittaker will be back no?

I must say that is a piss poor team

02 Sep 2011 00:53:53
Who the hell is luca gasparotto?IS he an irish italian pimp or just a money lender lol?

02 sep 2011 00:01:26
fellow bears. support your club get behind the management these f***ers across the city are in my opinion are trying every dirty trick in the media to drag rangers down.

last year was bad, ref's blamed for this and that. they have had no success in years and no doubt feeling the strain of being second best resulting in the old pals act in the media, its got to be happening. this whole rivalry has become even bigger now.

does anyone agree with me that they are trying everything they can to tarnish the name of rangers.

the only way i see it is if we continue to support the club in the right manner and keep the team and publicity positive for us, they simply cant hack it. when we keep winning there is always going to be a dirty story from that mob that's what i think.

Mate i couldn't agree more see the next old firm in two weeks lets not let them be heard a was at the rangers Aberdeen game the other day and it was that qwiete you coulve heard a penny drop it was totally silent lets get it back to the way it was and watch us beat the manky mob good times bad times wee will always come through it because wee are rangers and to be honest a can see four in a row and what that lawwel said about jelavic is gonna make him more determined to play better and score goals against them 4 in a row in ally wee trust