Rangers Banter Archive October 02 2016

02 Oct 2016 21:48:52
Don't want to sound cynical here but let's not get carried away again. it was partick thistle we beat, they are rubbish. let's get a few wins under our belt and then we can assess how they are performing. Beat hearts and that will be a step in the right direction.

02 Oct 2016 22:13:19
Some got carried away in the wrong direction after a 1-1 draw with Hamilton.

Outplayed Aberdeen who are a better team than Hearts.

There is no doubt how well the team is performing. It's the taking of chances as apposed to a poor defence that has cost us crucial points this season.

If the players up front, whether it's Garner, Waghorn, Miller or whoever else can convert there chances along with the way we play most weeks, we'll have a successful season.

There are a number of players in the forward areas we're excited about seeing. If the likes of Windass, Holt, McKay, Dodoo, Wagjorn, Kranjcar and Garner can hit full fitness and play consistently well, we should be coasting most games.

02 Oct 2016 22:32:49
You say if they start taking their chances your manager has tried many variances of a front three mid three out your named players and none seem to work is he going to keep changing midfield and forwards constantly and with each passing week the fans will say let's get behind thevtesm and management it will come good but really will it?

02 Oct 2016 23:17:58
Many variances of a front three and midfield three?

Having watched Rangers every game this season and all of last season, it's kind of obvious, (once everyone fit), who'll play in two of the front three positions and MW has been fairly consultant in that regard.

Waghorn and McKay are certain starters in a MW team. McKay on the left and Waghorn on the right and I doubt he'll change it to put Waghorn down the middle. Miller and Garner will likely fight it out for the main CF position.

As for the midfield, Holt and Halliday played about every game, (when able) last season and will likely play a lot this season. Windass likely along side them with Kranjcar, Rossiter, Crooks and Forrester competing for places.

Even the defence Wallace, Tavernier, Wilson will likely play a lot this season as they did last, with Senderos, Hill and Keirnan competing for a place.

03 Oct 2016 08:27:50
Rossiter, when fit, must play, Windass needs a run of games, Kranjcar
is with out a doubt our most creative midfielder if he was not as slow as me he'd be first on the team sheet.

03 Oct 2016 10:40:28
Bluepete, i'd imagine kranjcar will play most of his games against the teams that are normally bottom 6 teams, as those teams will sit in trying to catch us on the brake. if kranjcar gets up to a higher form of fitness he will play more often.

03 Oct 2016 14:03:47
I don't think barton will get a game for us again!

I love halliday and holt together
and I would have rossiter on with them.
that being said windass looks like he could be one of the best but couldn't take rossiter place as cdm.
so who will be dropped if anyone to play windass halliday? holt?
this is why i'd go for 4 or 5 in the middle while still being very attacking minded and defend high and as a unit!
but hey I just want my best players on the pitch at the same time . I know this won't happen.

03 Oct 2016 16:48:54
Why does MW persist with Miller and Mckay?

03 Oct 2016 16:18:29
On terms of getting carried away - it's never sensible to judge on one or two games, either way.

Been a sticky start to the season but plenty time left. Celtic are a much stronger side so this season is about adapting to higher level, improving as a team and making sure we can offer a proper challenge next season.

Personally I don't believe kings claims that there will be investment in the team in January, so we need to make the absolute best of what we have.

03 Oct 2016 19:06:33
Paulsrfc getting carried away works both ways.

03 Oct 2016 17:52:04
James stirling, our defence is not quick enough for us to play 5 in midfield,5 in midfield is only used to cram up the midfield to prevent fast flowing opposition from playing there there usual fast free flowing football. stifling the midfield is not the answer in my opinion.

04 Oct 2016 15:33:22
Deeb, because McKay has created most of our goals, and an aging Miller is still the best we have upfront.

02 Oct 2016 20:08:09
Never seen your comment about kranjar W15 but just read it back there. Good minds think alike.

02 Oct 2016 17:30:05
How solid was big Wes yesterday? I must say he looked on top form yesterday, could be the start of a great goalkeeper, only thing bad i noticed was that lapse in concentration when he took too long to clear the ball, nearly lost a goal but all in all great performance.

02 Oct 2016 21:36:25
I really like wes it has to b said, give me a heartattack at times but what a shot stopper, reactions r second to none, would much rather wes than the 2 guys causing indecision in the east end.

03 Oct 2016 16:26:09
Gordon is a better keeper, sorry. I'm not sure about de vries.

Wes is a decent keeper but that's all, he does make mistakes and has let in some really soft goals.

Don't think there is much between him and gilks.

03 Oct 2016 16:34:00
its today craig whyte is at court, getting legal aid is a joke.

03 Oct 2016 21:01:48
Bigdimps5, going down the legal aid road because he can't afford to pay a lawyer, the guys got some neck on him. i honestly hope he gets jailed as he definitely knew what he was doing. they all knew it was a big scam. that's what these persons do for a living, rather than earn there money honestly.

02 Oct 2016 15:47:44
Our defence needs abit more aggression and players who aren't afraid to get right into tackles so for me Calum Paterson has to be our No1 target.

02 Oct 2016 21:05:40
Agree would be a great investment would like to see him at CB not sure we could afford him tho.

03 Oct 2016 03:49:10
lets just be happy we are still a club at the end of the season, if we have cash great, but i would rather the leccy stayed on than we made signings.

03 Oct 2016 06:20:22
Think paterson's contract is up at end of season sure I read that in the paper yesterday.

03 Oct 2016 07:53:12
smashing then, let's get him in.

03 Oct 2016 16:31:25
Pretty certain he's going down south.

02 Oct 2016 11:11:01
Good to see Haliday proving me wrong over the past few weeks. Always good to keep a clean sheet. This could be our defensive partnership going forward to be fair and it's only had one chance to play.

Almost everyone fully fit and match fit Kranjcar is the perfect example of this.

How Holt and Wilson aren't in the scotland line up is beyond me there both quality.

02 Oct 2016 14:10:06
RossW1995,andy halliday would always be in my starting 11 mate, each team needs a player like halliday in their midfield, he plays with his heart, gets stuck in about it and gives his absolute all for his club and team mates, you can see what it means to him, he inspires all his team mates around him, andy is undoubtedly captain material without actually being the captain! he sets the tempo for rangers as well as chipping in with goals with his sweet left peg, he's also a good passer, so what more can we ask of a midfielder? I've all the time in the world for halliday and a certain starter for our upcoming semi final against celtic, I'll tell you one thing, scott brown will know he's been in a game by the end of it, that's for sure!

02 Oct 2016 14:24:34
In the early part of the season he was our box to box mid (Think Barton (dm), Kranjcar (am) Haliday (b2b) and he wasn't offering anything. Just like to point out the coincidence of Holt rejoining the starting line up and everyone playing better, Haliday included. Don't see how he is a better player at CDM than Barton, Rossiter and Crooks mind you and that's why I said he was our worst midfielder. He hasn't shown me that he's better although he has upped his performances. He has grew as the season has went on and so has our team. Already explained why I think the shitfred cup cost us and playing 50% of the games Celtic had by the first time we played them wasn't ideal either.

For me we are better due to Holt. We don't tick without him. Look to last season at christmas we slumped when he was out injured for a couple of weeks. Just show's balance in midfield is more important than who is actually playing there.

Time is all we need.

02 Oct 2016 15:08:40
Ross w totally agree about Wilson and Scotland he's surely worth a shout before Gordon Greer a 35 yr old.

02 Oct 2016 15:16:16
Ive been critical of Our Andy in past posts abt taking to many touches and getting caught in possession but i think he's read some of my posts because he's playing the nice 1/ 2 touch stuff now so hats off. he's living the dream for the rest of us🔴⚪️🔵🇬🇧.

02 Oct 2016 15:08:11
Great to get a good win but let's not get carried away, again.

One swallow doesn't make a summer.

Holt is not in the Scotland squad because our other attacking midfield players such as Snodgrass, Ritchie and Morrison are far, far better players. Holt has done well for us and is a busy little player but he isn't international class.

Wilson simply hasn't played well enough or played enough football to merit a Scotland call up. Scotland are crying out for central defenders but until he cuts out errors and can be described as a rock he won't get called up.

02 Oct 2016 17:58:44
RossW, . How can you possibly compare Rossiter, Crooks or Windlass. Unless they are performing extremely well on the physio table, then we have nothing much to go on!
A lot of folks on here keep throwing these names in - Crooks and Windlass have been injured since the beginning of the year. Rossiter has played 25 minutes in a friendly. What makes you think they will improve things?

02 Oct 2016 20:23:44
Bil72 I never mentioned Windass since he doesn't play the position. I'm comparing him to others in the role. Haliday has self confessed he isn't a defensive mid. Crooks has as much quality on the ball has him, is far more physical and also much faster. May I add that Rossiter has had far more minutes than you think I'm sure he's played at least 4 games for us since coming. I thought Rossiter was the best player in Scotland but now there is a debate on the table with dembele. The guy will be our best player at some point based on everything said about him and what we have seen. Barton although he hasn't done much is the best player in the squad and just because he's suspended and isn't necessarily helping doesn't mean we should pretend he isn't. Maybe Kranjcar stepping up and Haliday showing he can take his position will kick him into gear. Position for position in my opinion he is the worst cm in the team. Holt, Windass, Kranjcar, Rossiter, Barton, Crooks, Forrester. On performances this season however especially when Holt has been in the side he has looked very good.

02 Oct 2016 21:33:25
I have to admit that halliday has impressed me more and more recently, I was of the impression everyone was buying into the diehard status but of late (since the Barton saga) he's really stepped up in my opinion! What he lacks in finesse he more than makes up for in heart.

Great to see holt back tho, still can't believe we snapped that guy up for so little! Must be up there with the best bargains in recent times! So much drive, vision and determination! Strachans naivety is rangers gain in my opinion.

03 Oct 2016 03:53:01
ROSS W some of your theories are good but some astound me, would a maanger rather his team played 50% more or less games than an opposition|?

Are you a lawyer you have an excuse for everything .

03 Oct 2016 10:20:31
In terms of preseason the more games you have the quicker you will get up to speed. Celtic had double our games against quality oppositions which in my opinion has allowed them, with a good transfer policy, to have such a good start. They played against the English champions, inter ect. We played against East Stirling, stranrar and annan. We were only tested in one of our preseason games and that was Burnley, and it was too late. If we were able to make our own preseason plan we might have got up to speed quicker. I wouldn't say it was an excuse either its a pretty valid reason, especially with our squads fitness, that more games would have benefited us before the start of the season. Celtic made 3 signings we made 11. By the old firm game celtic had played around twice the number of games we had. At preseason match fitness comes from game time. With the winter break this won't matter at all as Celtic will have time to recover.

02 Oct 2016 08:02:17
Was saddened to hear about the lad who lost his life supporting team he loved
Thinking of his family and friends at this terrible tragedy and hopefully a speedy recovery to the injured
May flight of Angels see thee to thy rest fellow Bear 🔴⚪🔵.