Rangers Banter Archive October 02 2012

02 Oct 2012 21:07:35
You'd be better boycotting scottish media like newspapers first.

02 Oct 2012 20:26:35
£800,575.88 goes to Celtic for that win tonight. Green,will be Green......with envy! Get it up you Charlie boy!

Briggs

I honestly doubt Charles Green will give a Fleck....

TTG

@1 are you sure about that?... Maybe this might jog your memory....

RANGERS owner Charles Green last night insisted the Ibrox club would be in a stronger financial position than Celtic in a year.

The battered and bruised club began life as a newco with an edgy extra-time 2-1 Ramsdens Cup win at Brechin but the new chief executive was bullish about the club's future and claimed within 12 months their balance sheet would be stronger than the SPL champions.

Green said: If you look at the balance sheets at the end of next season you should see the strength of the two companies.

We are in the Third Division and Celtic are in the SPL and what I'd like you to do is promise me at the end of this season, when all the games are played, examine the balance sheets of the clubs and tell me which one is the strongest?

Then let's see who has got the strongest balance sheet.

We've not got the debt that any of these clubs have and on the last day of the season I would really enjoy some clever financial analyst looking at the balance sheets and debt-to-equity ratio of every club in Scotland.�

Briggs

So green dosn't want his money back. .H.

I highly doubt Green is goin to be sitting in his luxury gaff beelin' because Celtic have made a bit of money. It's not as if he's missed out on it, if both Rangers and Celtic were competing in the Champ League last night and Rangers lost then yes, Mr Green would be beelin, but it's not the case.

TTG

@TTG his club are not in the spl so why did he come out with that statement then? The guy is a clown and everything he has said so far is BS and if you are honest you will admit he is only blowing smoke up your ass!

Briggs

You guys get your first away win in champions league/cup since 1986 (congratulations by the way) and all you want to do is talk about Charles Green - get a grip - your team is doing pretty well so spend some time enjoying it and stop obsessing with us - you will feel better for it .....,

Green is alluding to the balance sheet which lists his valuation of the assets. Not the Profit and Loss account which shows the trading value of the business.

03 Oct 2012 23:22:17
Greens assets appear to be worth a vast total of £5.5million, are they not? and the players arent going to be attracting million pound bids. Celtic have the Champions League revenue which is estimated at a minimum of £15 million before a ball is kicked, throw in £400k for a draw and £800k a win plus £35 gate receipts and I doubt Green will be able to back up his claim come May.

Dont buy into this man, yes he has put a team on the field at Ibrox for you to support but he is telling you all exactly what you want to here

02 Oct 2012 19:32:41
Just looking through some bitter posts, fingers crossed that celtic get beat, that SM players score, etc, etc, etc. I dont want to gloat but........a fool and his money is easily parted! Hail Hail!

Is that why then tic are invited to testimonials, friendlies down south then , due to fans following ?

If it was the other way round it would be the same so dont kid ur self on pal

02 Oct 2012 21:45:06
I beg ur pardon mate but im one of the few to say well done but u cant even acknowledge the good wishes.

@3 the OP is having a go at the guys on here who said it would be 6 games 6 defeats in the CL for celtic and a humping in Moscow etc... Celtic fans appreciate the good wishes of yourself and other fans of your club.

Briggs

02 Oct 2012 19:23:58
Well done Celtic. From a Bear RTID

Well lucky Celtic also fom a bear WATP. Broxi

Haha broxi git it up you

02 Oct 2012 19:03:40
So how many rangers enjoyed Celtic getting hammered in Moscow then...oh wait sorry we won that one too...oops your not very good and predicting results are you. Maybe once we play a team like Forres mechanics we will get that thumping you hoped for?

02 Oct 2012 19:57:40
You know somethin mate, i have just posted a well done to your team. That was b4 i saw your drivel. Poor show mate. Whats even poorer is your team get a fantastic away win in the CL and whats the 1st thing you do? Very sad RTID

Or St.johnstone !

02 Oct 2012 17:23:18
Strange that the draw for nxt round of lge cup moved from dumbarton yo corruption central....could that be to fix a old firm draw for tv money???
Ur thoughts???

Inverbear

I don't suffer from paranoia so Disagree for me.

They could fix the draw if it was held in a petrol station. Your theory is just daft.

02 Oct 2012 16:08:55
Please spare a thought today for Willie Henderson and his family after the sad loss of their daughter who was only 28.

Wee Bill

Another young life tragically cut short. had the pleasure of willie's company on a few occasions...even at a Celtic supporters club sportsmans dinner believe it or not...lovely man, my thoughts go to him and his family


taco

02 Oct 2012 12:55:43
Mike mulraney (alloa chairman) in todays paper havin a cheeky pop at McCoist saying he should seek guidance from hartley on how to win the 3rd division. Same guy who spoke negatively about the club to stv when the trouble began... "Sporting intergrity" and blah-de-blah. Licking his lips at the prospect of the financial gain of playing Rangers at Ibrox. Rangers should give this game to fans free so he can count his half of hee haw!

Come on mate, McCoists an easy target for criticism; from his management tactics through to his daft diatribes. He's still saying its the same rangers, the same club, when even the BBC and STV are saying the CVA to save the club failed and Green started a new club and entered div3.
Who's taking whom for mugs?
No one can stomach 'it's the same club' patter anymore after that £94.4m shock.

Motherwell game was just about free too £1 to get in but yet £14 for a program? Good way to 'share' gate money.

Will give you another cracker... Had a phone call the other day from guess who... RANGERS asking me if I wanted a season ticket? Once I told them I was a celtic fan they still asked me? 3rd person its happened too.

There maybe trouble a head....

*ps no joke though someone was at the wynd up at first but was the ticket office trying to sell a celtic fan a season ticket? It's happened to a few people I know who stay within 5miles of ibrox... Strange but true

Lenny

Lord Nimmo says they are still same club. As usual you guys ignore anything that does not suit you

02 Oct 2012 17:18:57
@1 What's the breakdown of the £94m tax owed?

02 Oct 2012 18:08:49
Lenny you know you want one, spend all your big winnings

by the way my 1st bet has just came up spartak to score in both halfs and also bet them to win when they were 0-1 down

JG

Hi lenny maybe charles has twigged with the amount of tic fans on this site ,they might just want to shift over to the other side lol doug t.s.o

@3: no he didn't. Charles Green said he did but that was nonsense. There is a difference.

02 Oct 2012 11:40:05
Next draw of League Cup, if Rangers get drawn away against ANY Sphell team the Rangers support will NOT attend, as much as this goes against the grain we have to show these teams and so called supporters averaging less than 5k a game that The best support in the world the mighty Rangers will no longer subsidise their so called club after all the bad mouthing we have encountered from them and their chairman.

No way will i set foot in tannadice especially! and its the easiest ground for me to get to as im in bonnie dundee, its a difficult one cause obviously we want to cheer the boys on but at thhe same time dont want to give these cowboy chairmen who thot they had a wee european run to subsidise rangers not being in the spl any of our money.. well at the end of the day thats what it was a WEE euro run lol

I for one will be following my team wherever they go. So no-one turns up to support the bears, the teams heads go down and we get beat and booted out the cup... nice one

02 Oct 2012 12:59:01
Since it was HMRC that caused all the problems I suggest you stop paying your taxes. {Ed039's Note - If only)

As far as I'm aware the breakdown of League Cup monies per game are as follows, 15% to the home team (presumably to cover expense, policing etc) then a straight 50-50 split of what's left. Delude yourselves all you want but with a 29,413 gate, didn't you in essence give Motherwell half of 25,000 folks money only last week? Do you lot put any thought into anything you do?

02 Oct 2012 13:04:52
Bad mouthing ? Please give an example as i cant remember any spl club/chairman Bad mouthing your former club or for that mater your new club. Nevisbhoy {Ed039's Note - Mad Vlad?? Thompson at Dundee United??)

FFS grow up
Tam

Op remember we get 42.5% of the gate doesnt matter if it is a home tie or away tie, that is revenue that we need at this time therefore we are shooting ourselves in the foot with any boycotts of away cup games
even a 100k from an away tie would pay a few wages for us right now

JG

Rangers are to blame for where they find themselves, not the SPL Chairmen. Why should the Newco have got direct entry into the SPL.

And I think you'll find that the majority of Rangers supporters voted for SFL3, so you got what your support wanted.

@1. Support your local team and maybe Scottish football would never have been in the position of relying on two teams.
Al

Whatever happened to good sportsmanship ?
I am a Celtic fan and to be honest I wouldnt give a damn if the Rangers fans never entered Parkhead again

To No 10 I am disgusted with both the old firm with away support pricing it costs me and I take my son £84.00 to get in 14.00 for the supporters bus which is value forget having a pint and that is a minimum of £98.00 this pricing policy is ludicrous there were gaps all over septic park at the last game and both sets of fans are being ripped off. Never mind D UTd and ABerdeen increasing prices for the old firm where is the SPORTING INTEGRITY in that ?

Number 9,

If you stay in a certain city/ town for work reasons etc, should you change clubs every time you move? When I was in the army should it have been compulsory for me to follow whichever team played at my posting? Think about it.

Boycotts seldom achieve their aims so I'll support my team if drawn against an SPL team. Why put Rangers at a disadvantage on the field of play by not supporting them?

Anyway, Rangers via Charles Green are about to pay money to David Murray who landed us in this trouble in the first place and I don't hear many complaints about that.

BARNEY BEAR

Spot on all dundee utd got was a wee run in europe.but you will know all about wee runs all the cups last season and the ramsdens cup this season.

Brilliant Opening Post. Pity not enough bears are following your lead. Follow Follow but not to club's whose fans and chairmen used the excuse of Sporting Integrity to try and get rid off our famous club, but now they're all wanting our fan's money. I prefer to wait and see if our titles are safe before taking any action. Geo the Ger

02 Oct 2012 10:24:38
A question to my fellow bears re Scotland. Since Levein won't change his stance and pick Fletcher (who is scoring in the premier league) who do you think is more important to our qualification chances, the manager or the player? So hit agree for Levein or disagree for Fletcher.

Shockeroony Fletchers in the squad .......DH

And Levein picks Fletcher in the squad!

Could we have a debate about whether it's my fault or Camelot's that I haven't won the lottery yet :)


TRD

Stephen Fletcher is in the squad!

Looks like Levein must've read my question and caved in! Lol {Ed039's Note - Really? Is it not Darren Fletcher?)

Ed 39 - Both fletchers are in

JG

Both Steven and Darren Fletcher are in Ed.

IMO this is Levein covering his a$$.

Fletcher and Fletcher make huge impact = Levein Win

S.Fletcher fails to make any impact and Levein says he only choose him because the FANS demanded it = Levien stays or saves face = Levein Win.

W-Lyl

02 Oct 2012 09:33:25
Hi all what do think of a single organisation responsible for Scottish Football AT all levels and that all clubs can vote and have there say on the (ruling council) each year before the season starters or at the end of the season.

I agree that one ruling body should take charge of all levels with a ruling council but voting every year would be time consuming and costly, each council should be given 4 years to impliment policys like in government.

Won't work 'cos the corrupt SFA,SPL won't give up their power,anyway they're too busy chasing after our titles.

Yeah cause neither the SFA SPL SFL are any good because they didn't turn a blind eye to cheating, so they need scrubbed. And of course, the SPL needs scrubbed also because Rangers were never good enough to win it.
The truth is that the SFA SPL and SFL need deinfested with pro rangers bad people and 12 teams in the SPL is the optimum number although all studies and sanctioned papers state an SPL of ten.
The SPL worked well for 12 years notwithstanding Rangers cheating for 12 years. It continues to work even better without Rangers in it.

@3 - every now and then a total banger comes on here and well done today you win the prize

I especially like the made up word (deinfested) haha cracker

JG

#3 - what's your surname - is it Regan or Doncaster - if you genuinely believe that, it is very sad, and I fear for our game if there are many like you - however being a banter page I'm sure your at the wind up and we can all rest easy ......

02 Oct 2012 07:34:18
I don't think people appreciate the scale of the authority the liquidators have.

Gratuitous alienation is key to this.

There are lots of examples; D&P selling membership to the SPL for a token £2 (now arguably this is rendered worthless on confirmation as liquidation ceases the club) however Chuck thinks that he's due £2m in prize money.
£2 for £2m?

There's Ibrox too, for all its on the verge of being delapadated, the front facade is crumbling (no real maintenance for years, pipes bursting randomly, rust apparent, asbestos ridden) it was sold for £2.5m but yet Imran Ahmed has claimed it's worth £50m on a bad day, now for all that this is an exaggeration he does have a point. It's worth considerably more than £2.5m.

Then there's The Rangers, they have taken it upon themselves to try and be 100% replica of the club that's about to be liquidated (less the position within the top tier of the league and players of any significance). Their branding is similar and they're sporting the same crest etc. Insolvency Laws prohibit this.

Chuck has been desperate to mobilize everything in an attempt to sell shares in his former Sevco outfit in an attempt to raise the money to repay his clients Ticketus.
Time is running out before BDO start their work and Green is exposed. It makes for fantastic viewing however.

Bitter lemons for breakfast or are last seasons Killie pies still giving you jip!

Ok you are not a rangers fan but one of those who knows all things rangers when it comes to bad points or things you think are funny. So here's the question then I am fed up of all the p,Sh you lot say is going to happen like you have a crystal ball that lets you see all the bad stuff that will happen to rangers so come on tell us in your opinion what will happen to rangers in the next six months and leave your name so we can get a good laugh at you when it turns out you know nothing but how to talk Sh,t and if you get it right you can bask in your own glory

02 Oct 2012 11:29:49
you know, I'm perplexed as to why the country is in such a monetary mess when we have this huge ,apparently untapped pool of legal/financial/business acumen bubbling under in the West of Scotland.....so many expert,acerbic, and rapier sharp minds have focussed on Rangers problems, with a myriad of ingenious and innovative solutions put forward......well, why don't you all direct your collective nous to resolving a shocking , endemic and damaging issue that carries a much more immediate threat ....why can't the wee Bhoys win an away group game in the Champions league?.......will tonight be 19 and counting?surely the saviour of England, Hooper will score at one end, and the other, er, saviour of England, Foster will keep a clean sheet at the other, whilst Wanyama, the African Makalele(?) will dominate the midfield alongside the shaven snarler Broon? Or maybe they'll just get horsed...again. Celtic then, Celtic noo, Celtic forever,still canny win an away group game.

Gratuitous Alienation - A transfer of property by a debtor to another person for no consideration or for an inadequate consideration. Such alienations in the period up to 5 years prior to the date of sequestration are open to a statutory challenge by the permanent trustee; alienations outwith that period can only be challenged at common law. Sequestration is a actual person not a company.

Re(3 Don't you feel a right tit now ........DH