Rangers Banter Archive November 02 2013

 

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02 Nov 2013 10:32:43
A question to george if he, s out there
when we met at the start of this debacle
you told the people who met in front of Ibrox
that you told Jim Traynor about the longfirm that was being run at Rangers only for him to be employed BY Rangers later, What is your hopes now that he has left

please ed post this and please reply your thoughts george

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Firstly all my thoughts go to Fernando Ricksen at this sad time in his life heart sorry for him.

Secondly I had given up posting on here as it is impossible to convince your average online 'fan' that there is a scam going on at Rangers. I am fed up with personal insults just because I pointed out the fraud going on but people not happy just to disagree they have to make it personal, especially the implication that I am triyng to seem like I want attention and claiming to be a saviour. what a load of pish. I only want Rangers to be my football team again not my daily news nightmare on front pages.

I made it clear in my flyer how this would go down. constant smoke and mirrors, constant stall tactics and string this out until we are in second admin.

To be honest I thought genuinely November but it appears we seem to just be struggling on though I do not expect much money is left.

Traynor will be the same as EVERY person departing Rangers from The Greatest Ever Ranger to Malcolm Murray and the rest.

Nothing will come out until this board is totally removed as ANYTHING said implying fraud you will be taken through the courts and I am sure that they have all been bound by confidentiality clauses, it seems the only logical explanation. Total silence from EVERYONE it just stinks.

The single most troubling thing for me currently is WHO is behind Blue Pitch and Margarita? The simple fact that it is being hidden so contentiously I think tells you everything. The ONLY reason to hide something in the present climate is it MUST be bad news as, were it Bill Gates or The Sultan of Brunei (kiding) they would be shouting it from the rooftops. The real danger to us as a club is that IF there is any link whatsoever to CW we are in deep S***E as our licence would very likely be revoked.

A reason for stalling on this coming out is that should the 'good guys' finally succeed in winning the boardroom battle then Green and the Margarita Mafia can pull the rug from under all our feet in one last destructive move by then revealing a link to CW thus throwing us into Admin or liquidation again or worse refused a licence and therefore destroy the club totally.

It would not surprise me in the least if these persons have planned everything including the Endgame I have just outlined. NOTHING WOULD SURPRISE ME AT RANGERS NOW.

So we will just have to sit back and as we have to date take the S***E they throw at us. sadly the Sons of Struth are the only people I have seen that realise all this can happen to our club and have tried, fantastically in my opinion, to wake up the masses of Rangers supporters to what is going on, but with the insane divided factions in our support they are getting limited results and I note a lot of personal s***e too.

I still hope some day I will wake up and this will all have been a nightmare sadly it isn't.

Yours as always a Rangers fanatic. george

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03 Nov 2013 10:50:41
Did Traynor leave of his own free-will or was sacked or pushed?

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George,

I sense your frustration, a great many of our fans, just seem to be "sleep-walking".

They think that the papers/radio phone-ins are just journo's stirring it or celtic fans at the wind-up.

Our voice must be heard before it's too late (although I think we might already be past that point).

This is more important than winning some football matches or waiting to see who we get in the cup, we are in deep s**t and this current board (and there backers) are getting a free hand to do whatever they want almost unchallenged.

Direct action is required, we must bring in anyone that can help, I thinking press, msp, mp's, police, SFA, Scottish league, private investigators, stock exchange, fraud squad and anyone else that we think could assist.

We need a leader (not from any of the current fans group), not any of our ex-players who are either on the payroll of the club and have being part of the club since it went toxic.

What I'm going to suggest is that Ally resigns from his post (does walk away), but stands on the front steps on Ibrox and tells everyone that the current club is rotten to the core and urges every single fan, player, employee, ex-player to do whatever we can to rid the club of these people.

Direct action, in my opinion everything should be considered, but we need a leader (s) that everyone can rally behind.

To the fans that think green saved us, mather was ok please please WAKE UP!

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In total agreement George, if you say anything the masses don't like then its ridicule and mud slinging against you or whoever dares speak sense.
Although I have never totally agreed with everything you have said, I admire your determination to get to the truth in this sorry mess. In most cases I feel you are very close to the awful truth about what is happening and I hope for one you keep going because if you don't then the "blinkered brigade" have won. The sadness about this whole affair is that people in the know at Ibrox have sat with their mouths closed shut tight because they don't have the "balls" to speak the truth because it in some way will hurt the club? Tell and be dambed as they say or is it as George stating that dire that Rangers will lose thier license? Think you may have hit the nail on the head George. Ally, Walter etc. are maybe that scared to tell because of the consequences? I really hope not. keep up the good work George.

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George. thanks for your reply, yes we are hamstrung. [ to render powerless or useless ] these are very sad days for Rangers fans, I don't even hold out hope of removing these people from the board
even if we do who will be the power behind board and how long will they be there
sad sad times

thanks George, from someone who was in at the begining. I am a one of ten

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Lads time to grow up "one of ten" george ain't the messiah because he writes big long paraghraphed messages. He is the same as every other fan he can't do nowt unless he's got millions of £s. hey george do you have millions? If so put up or s. u your wasting your time.

CIFRCA

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George surely WS, MM and now Jim Traynor can only be sued if they come out with untruths? If they tell the truth now no matter how damaging it is to Green, Whyte Stockbridge or the Bus Brothers they will come to no harm in law. The Bus Brothers need to depart if they are what effectively is now stopping the truth coming out and hopefully the fans will let them know loud and hard that it is the interests of Rangers Football Club that matter not any other individual or small groups of nameless, faceless malevolent cliques.

Now being positive for a moment and looking forward to the day when Stockbridge, the Easdales, Blue Pitch Holdings and Margarita are out on their combined asses will the Blue knights and the fans groups leaders tell us why some of the £14million in pledges on the Save Rangers campaign were not added to the £5.5million offer to Duff and Duffer?

Now People will say Green was always going to get the club from Whyte's appointed administrators but not if the Blue Knights offer was say £11 million- half of it coming from the fans (£14m in pledges)

I agree however if D&P who were cleared by their own professional body have allowed Craig Sh#te to still be involved in any small way whatsoever the troubles to date may seem minor hiccups to what could lie ahead. Maybe this is what is taking BDO so long and why Frank Blin must be allowed into forensically dissect from the final days of DM to the present. I can see possible class actions by Rangers Fans against D&P, DM and Lloyds who were told by the independent board who looked into Whyte that he was not the man to take the club forward.

Our club will survive- this too will pass but would someone in the know please speak up for goodness sake?

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{Ed039's Note - WS etc may have had a confidentiality clause built into their contracts when they took up their posts, therefore if they come out spilling the beans it may be them who would have their day in the courts and perhaps why it is all quiet)

Listen cifca even after all these weeks the message is not being listened to so good on him for saying it there is an air of ocht just get on with it real apathy roams the Rangers support now knocked down to many times a fear for our future. and in the fans darkest hour. where is our ex players where is the Rangers men asking the questions that need asked, where is the men to get behind. nowhere. i'm a one of ten

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I think david murray still owns rfc maybe that's the reason for everyone staying quiet the don't want to speak against him in case the fans chastise them for it also no chance of working at rangers again if they speak out against the owner whoever he may be

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Your correct ED it's just so bleedin frustrating logic is sometimes forgotten

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No7 - you can't add a pledge because you don't have the money and it might never materialise. Remembet tge photo of that guy in Australia pledging either £1 million or $1 dollars? Did he stump up?

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@11 the point I was trying to make when some of us pledged our money we meant it but it never went any further- I was being critical of the supporters group leaders who met Paul Murray et all before their bids were submitted. I remember the Aussie guy with his million pound pledge but what was the point of seeing what it came to if you were going to do nothing with the possible sum? Personally it would take some neck to get your photograph taken and give your chat about wanting the grandsons to see the team you supported as a boy then not pay up - But we were never asked to. I didn't say the full £14 as yes there would be guys who didn't but a hell of a lot of us would and it may have led to a better outcome for our team which would have spoiled your enjoyment of our travails but that would have been an extra bonus.

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@9 - the shareholders own rangers, is it possible that sdm or whtye own a percentage of shares, yes it is possible

JG

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01 Nov 2013 22:19:04
I honestly hope rangers can arrange a benefit game very quickly for fernando ricksen, its only right that it should be rangers v fortuna sittard at ibrox, I've no doubt the game would be a sell sellout as fernando was a very popular & well liked player with both the rangers supporters & all his fellow team mates, what do my other fellow 'gers fans think?

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Loved the guy he's way up there with the likes of big Albertz, Amarouso, Hately, etc will always be remembered by the generation that was lucky to see him pull on a Rangers jersey. would have no hesitation in paying for tickets for whoever we played.

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Great idea to have a match for Fernando, and hopefully some guest apperances by is former team mates such as Numan, and Mols.

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