Rangers Banter Archive May 02 2011

 

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02 May 2011 22:40:09
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Goodwillie - Good player but rather have stokes n hooper
Conway - Again, not as good as commons
Weiss - Great young prospect but done next to nothing up here
Bartley - Not Arsenal standard at all, u might actually be able to BUY him

These often touted signings will not win u the league next year teddy bears. And a short stay in europe to match! And please don't respond to this by going on about braga and utrecht, heard it already and we're just lookin forward to the CL next season :-)

Do you actually remember the CL or Europe at all , why don't you tell us all what great signings Celtic are going to make or are you going to come up with the usual fantasy ones that you all do - Keane, Given etc . Next you will be telling us that Barcelona want to swap Messi for Stokes and Madrid want to swap Ronaldo for Samaras

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02 May 2011 22:16:39
Yup this is what the site is for banter. If I was Whyte I would not want to put all my money straight into Rangers so I would take a loan. As I've said before I think he will make money out of Rangers through the sale of Murray Park and property development there.

GovanFR

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02 May 2011 21:45:31
02 May 2011 21:07:34
Ref: Bougherra away in the summer 2 mil at most, diouf back tae blackburn, foster back to aberdeen, wiess back to man city, healy back to sunderland, bartley back to arsenal. so that would free up some amount of wages. so possible ins, bartley, wiess back on loan at least, conway free, gomis free, wallace 1mil, berra 1.5 mil, goodwillie 1.5 mil, eremenko 600k, mcauley free, vaughan free. possible outs / bougherra, lafferty, weir, papac, edu, beattie.

Why do ppl keep saying healy back to sunderland rangers bought his contract for 80k he is owned by rangers till summer then hes free agent

-Whats your point? A free agent can't go to Sunderland?

My point is a lot of ppl think he is on loan from sunderland but he aint they keep posting he will go back.

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02 May 2011 21:28:12
IF Whyte is so wealthy GovanFR, IF! There is NO evidence that shows him having anything like that sort of money. If he has and he's happy to splash the cash then fair enough. But if he hasn't? What then? I tried to suggest looking to see what you can find on the internet and I think Sickbhoy posted some of it but you all seem happy to blindly accept what you're being told.

Anyway, as you say, we're probably not going to agree. As someone once said, the world would be very boring if we all agreed with each other. Isn't that what these sites are for? Cross border banter?

Atheist

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02 May 2011 20:54:49
GovanFR
If whyte is so wealthy with a reported wealth of 700 million why would he consider a loan of a measly 10 million for transfers?

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02 May 2011 20:48:15
GovanFR. The debt to Lloyds is approx £20m. How is Craig Whyte going to pay that off? Is he going to donate £20m and not ask for it back? Or is he going to borrow it? Either way, once he's paid off Lloyds (and SDM approx £6m?) where is he getting the money to fund the team? What about the stadium repairs? And at the risk of repeating myself, what happens if/ when the HMRC bill hits? Will he donate however much they want or will he borrow it? Or has he got some other master plan? These are all questions that you should be asking!

Atheist

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02 May 2011 20:46:32
To whoever posted at 18:30, I agree that Walter Smith has done a terrific job this season. Rangers have an excellent first XI and he's been lucky with injuries and suspensions but, all things considered, he has done an amazing job to still be challenging. However, I cannot agree with your assessment of Neil Lennon. He is a rookie manager in his first year in charge. He brought in a huge number of new players (most of which have been a success), and got them to gel and play for each other. But above all, he has shown incredible maturity, both in the way he has dealt with the off field issues and in his decision making on the park. Whether Celtic or Rangers win the league, there is no doubt that Neil has been a huge success.

Atheist

We have not been lucky with injuries, McCulloch, Bartley, Broadfoot, all missed a lot of games. Edu missed a few months. Jelavic missed the first half and then we lost Miller in January. Lennon has shown great immaturity, he has gotten into fights with referees and the SFA plus McCoist and he has been verbally abusive toward Rangers players. His first real test he was embarrassed in Europe. A lot of his signings have been successful but some not so; Murphy? Cha? There is a recurring theme here that we seem to disagree on everything. Nothing personal, just a difference of opinions.

GovanFR

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02 May 2011 20:34:15
To whoever posted at 18:30, I agree that Walter Smith has done a terrific job this season. Rangers have an excellent first XI and he's been lucky with injuries and suspensions but, all things considered, he has done an amazing job to still be challenging. However, I cannot agree with your assessment of Neil Lennon. He is a rookie manager in his first year in charge. He brought in a huge number of new players (most of which have been a success), and got them to gel and play for each other. But above all, he has shown incredible maturity, both in the way he has dealt with the off field issues and in his decision making on the park. Whether Celtic or Rangers win the league, there is no doubt that Neil has been a huge success.

Atheist

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02 May 2011 20:16:52
This is something the media don't seem to be considering. When Whyte completes the takeover he will clear the debt and will give McCoist £10 million straight capital to spend on players. There is nothing to stop Rangers then taking out another £10 million loan in order to increase the transfer budget. The £10 million is just Whyte's money, he could also do a share issue to increase the money as Paul Murray recommended. As I've said before I would sell McGregor for approx £8 million sign Cammy Bell on a free and then you have £18 million to spend.

GovanFR

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02 May 2011 20:10:36
GovanFR. Yes I am a Celtic fan. However, I do not believe I am a hypocrite. You will not hear me singing sectarian songs. Nor will I ever defend those that do. I agree 100% that the anti-poppy protest was wrong (although I can understand why someone from Ireland may feel that way). But since you have brought up the subject of supporting the armed forces, the ultimate hypocrisy is RFC using members of the armed forces for PR stunts (free tickets, parading them at Ibrox) when all the while avoiding paying the taxes that would go towards the very equipment which would help to protect them in the field. That is the kind of thing SDM has fed you for years (for every fiver Celtic pay, I'll deprive the treasury of a tenner) and you have lapped it all up.

Atheist

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02 May 2011 18:59:42
Re: Now lets all do the bouncy , pray tell what do you mean by "serious money" given the fact that yous will need to sign at least 9 or 10 players to give yous a decent sized squad , with your 5 loanees returning to their parent clubs and one or two others leaving , add to that the ominous threat of a hefty tax bill (which you can't just dismiss) so come on now my man how much is serious money ? £5m , £10m , won't be nearly enough pal lol

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02 May 2011 18:47:27
Ed the daily express has said the takeover is completed is this true ed ??? {Ed001's Note - I have not heard that, but, as I have not heard anything either way, I am sure that talks are still ongoing and the parties are still bound by their NDA's. Also that anything in the media is pure conjecture or even pure guesswork and lies.}

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - can people not read the express says it will be complete THIS week not that it is already complete MORANS

MORANS don't you mean MORONS away and learn to spell YA fud FFS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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02 May 2011 18:30:23
I'm actually amazed at how well we have done this season given the squad and wage reduction we have gone through over the past season. It is credit to Walter we are able to keep the pressure on 'we buy any clown' Celtic. I have a feeling that squad size will inevitably cost us in allowing them to win the league. What a job Walter has done with very little resources. My view on the OF is Rangers have a small squad but a great manager and Celtic have a large squad with a poor manager. Glad they didn't have the likes of Owen Coyle as manager or they would have walked the league, then again if we had had money I think we would've.

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02 May 2011 18:25:34
Goodwillie - Good player but rather have stokes n hooper
Conway - Again, not as good as commons
Weiss - Great young prospect but done next to nothing up here
Bartley - Not Arsenal standard at all, u might actually be able to BUY him

These often touted signings will not win u the league next year teddy bears. And a short stay in europe to match! And please don't respond to this by going on about braga and utrecht, heard it already and we're just lookin forward to the CL next season - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

You won't be in the CL next year, the SPL winners will have two play at least one qualifying round and Celtic cannot win away so will not go through. Weiss is better than Maloney, Goodwillie is better than Hooper, Bartley is better than Mulgrew, and Conway is better than McCourt. In fact McCourt is terrible.

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02 May 2011 18:22:14
Atheist you are a Celtic fan are you not? So that would make you a hypocritical for calling anyone hypocritical. Celtic moan about Rangers fans singing sectarian songs and then their fans do it as well. They talk or refereeing conspiracies but do not complain when the wrong decisions go in their favour. They said they would ban the people who displayed the anti-poppy banner and then didn't. They claimed an extension to the league for Rangers in 2008 was unfair then moaned about the prospect of playing 4 games in 8 days. The phrase get your own house in order first comes to mind.

GovanFR

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02 May 2011 17:54:41
RANGERSNEWS ,
Was talking to charlie adams at the weekend , talk is conway going to blackpool! So i think we can forget this one. WATP. . . {Ed003's Note - It is "Adam" for the umpteenth time!!}

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02 May 2011 17:28:37
GovanFR. If anyone complained about Weir's shirt it wasn't me. I merely suggested that he should have had a message which was less hypocritical. Unfortunately, hypocrisy is something we see time and time again from Rangers Football Club. SDM and Martin Bain being the chief offenders.

Atheist

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02 May 2011 17:28:56
Re: get a wash comment. I actually have a job and have very good personal hygiene sir. And mad wlad came on and played semi decent in a game where celtic didn't show up. One out of seven lmao. It seems to me that u are quite easily wound up but I won't take ur comments to heart, I'm far too happy considering I support 2010/ 11 champions Glasgow Celtic :-)

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02 May 2011 17:16:54
Goodwillie - Good player but rather have stokes n hooper
Conway - Again, not as good as commons
Weiss - Great young prospect but done next to nothing up here
Bartley - Not Arsenal standard at all, u might actually be able to BUY him

These often touted signings will not win u the league next year teddy bears. And a short stay in europe to match! And please don't respond to this by going on about braga and utrecht, heard it already and we're just lookin forward to the CL next season - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
here ya nugget weiss came on in final an ripped yez apart an u will not make the group stages of the champs league away an collect yer giro and get a wash

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02 May 2011 17:19:09
Ref: Bougherra away in the summer 2 mil at most, diouf back tae blackburn, foster back to aberdeen, wiess back to man city, healy back to sunderland, bartley back to arsenal. so that would free up some amount of wages. so possible ins, bartley, wiess back on loan at least, conway free, gomis free, wallace 1mil, berra 1.5 mil, goodwillie 1.5 mil, eremenko 600k, mcauley free, vaughan free. possible outs / bougherra, lafferty, weir, papac, edu, beattie.

Why do ppl keep saying healy back to sunderland rangers bought his contract for 80k he is owned by rangers till summer then hes free agent

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no they didn't buy his contact but he is free at end of season

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02 May 2011 17:09:09
Ins:
Goodwillie - Good player but rather have stokes n hooper
Conway - Again, not as good as commons
Weiss - Great young prospect but done next to nothing up here
Bartley - Not Arsenal standard at all, u might actually be able to BUY him

These often touted signings will not win u the league next year teddy bears. And a short stay in europe to match! And please don't respond to this by going on about braga and utrecht, heard it already and we're just lookin forward to the CL next season :-)

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02 May 2011 17:09:34
Billy Mehmet to gers,

i was told this over a week ago, i have been told from a good source that ally rangers offered him a contract but this was refused as mehmet wants double what they offered.

we have healy there already as we bought his contract out. make him the same offer as i think he might do a better job.

or even better dig deep and invest in goodwillie

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02 May 2011 17:04:39
Atheist

As I said I wasn't offended by Boruc, I actually found in hilarious to see how thick he was in a poor attempt to wind people up. The point remains Rangers did nothing wrong through Davie Weir's shirt, people nowadays find offense and a reason to complain about anything.

GovanFR

PS. Anyone notice that Majstorovic should've been sent off yesterday. Strange game Celtic looked poor but Utds defence was all over the place.

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02 May 2011 16:25:49
GovanFR. I have no doubt that Boruc thought it would be a great wheeze to wear the t-shirt to wind up Rangers fans. Do you think for one minute he would have done so if you weren't so easily wound up? Actually, I don't imagine anybody was really offended, but they say they were in the hope of scoring some imaginary points. And the raging hypocrisy is that those people who would claim to be so offended would think nothing of screaming sectarian bile. It's like that idiot who complained to the police about Neil Lennon's handcupping gesture. There is no doubt that he/ she would have spent the entire 90+ minutes directing filth at NL.

Atheist

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02 May 2011 14:08:09
Atheist the word inflammatory can mean provocative which is what Boruc was trying to do. I was not offended as I say merely making the point that Weir's top was not meant to annoy people whereas Boruc did intend to, surely you agree on that?

GovanFR

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02 May 2011 11:26:00
Ed the daily express has said the takeover is completed is this true ed ??? {Ed001's Note - I have not heard that, but, as I have not heard anything either way, I am sure that talks are still ongoing and the parties are still bound by their NDA's. Also that anything in the media is pure conjecture or even pure guesswork and lies.}

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - can people not read the express says it will be complete THIS week not that it is already complete MORANS

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02 May 2011 11:31:29
Rangers takeover has been finally sealed according to the daily express, they say that the deal should go through in next 48 hours.

All the working capital and investment required is in place and has been ratified. All the assurances needed by those that matter have been given so we expect the takeover at long last to proceed this week

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02 May 2011 11:20:48
I have read over the past few days, with some amusement, comments with regard to Craig Conways future status. It seems there are a number of people on here that are privvy to Craig's future plans, when the player himself when interviewed in yesterday's Sunday Herald stated 'that he had not signed for anyone and nothing will be done until the end of the season'. Isn't it strange then that we have numerous posters on here claiming he has signed for everyone from the bears to jobseekers allowance! ! Lets see what happens at the end of the season eh??

Point two, for all the supporters of our east end brethren, bumping their gums about a fakeover, when will they realise that if the Craig Whyte offer doesn't materialise then the board will simply turn to Mr King and Mr Murray and follow their offer?? Regardless of which offer is succesful, Rangers WILL have serious money to spend this summer.

Now lets all do the bouncy! !

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02 May 2011 11:07:05
Conways signed a pre contract with watford, done deal four months ago, feckin hell there was pics of him getn shown round about by malky mckay after he had signed!and wheres the two mill to sign goodwillie coming from?bumping a tax bill?fakeover aint happening, get realistic, same as bougys away for 2 mill tops n greegs 4 at a push, the bank want their money, end off!

Not too confident about the impending takeover then no? And if it's a done deal with Conway, how come no mention in ANY paper or from any other corner of the media then?? Stop coming on here getting all arsey with people and talking guff eh pal?

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no couldnt sign 4 months ago because you can't sign a pre contract until march

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02 May 2011 07:57:35
GovanFR. I do not know how religious Artur is but, coming as he does from Poland, there is a fair chance he is. Can you say with 100% certainty that he isn't? In any event, if Boruc wore the t-shirt simply because he knew it would wind up the Ibrox faithful, then surely that's all it is. . . a wind up. That is VERY different from being inflammatory. If you, or anyone else, were truely inflamed by it then you seriously need to have a word.

Which brings us back to hypocrisy. How can those in the Ibrox stands be so enraged by "God bless the Pope" while at the same time continue singing the Sectarian bile which has so repeatedly got your club in trouble. That bile is inflammatory. The t-shirt was not.

Atheist

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02 May 2011 08:32:03
Takeover was complete 3 wks ago board stalled it goin to stock exchange mcoist handed 21million for next season announced tue weds latest

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02 May 2011 08:41:25
I think Weir should be the Assistant Manger next year

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02 May 2011 01:05:53
Goven o here wot ur saying mate, Davies shirt had nothing to do with religion or beliefs where as borcs did. And that's something that should be defo kept off the old fim for everyones sake. Goven do you think we would have had the same reaction is an epl team done it?? Eg man u or everton.

C-bear85

Good point, people would not make a big deal if an English team did it. Things like this and singing always seem to get blown out of proportion in Scotland, something Walter has pointed out as well.

GovanFR

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02 May 2011 01:08:11
What relevance does 'god bless the pope' have to an OF game. Why did Boruc wear that t-shirt, not because he is a very religious guy, why did he choose the OF game to display this top? Can you answer these questions because in doing so you prove my point.

Govan FR

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02 May 2011 01:23:24
GovanFR {Ed001's Note - as a neutral I don't like either t-shirt personally. But, on the other hand, anyone who is seriously offended by either of them needs to grow up a bit and probably shouldn't be allowed out on their own anyway.}

Agree with the point about being offended. My point was that I think Boruc did it to wind people up whereas Rangers didn't.

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02 May 2011 01:24:20
Oh, and GovanFR, if anyone has been trying to defend the indefencible, I think you'll it's Martin Bain.

Atheist

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02 May 2011 00:54:00
GovanFR. Just so we're clear, I wasn't offended by Davie Weir's shirt. Nor do I think it was offensive in any way. I merely suggested that cosying up to William was hypocritical when Rangers owe so much tax to Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs.

As for your question "would the police be happy", I believe I did answer it. I would not expect the police to take any action against Artur Boruc (or anyone else) for wearing a "God Bless the Pope" message. I WOULD expect the police to take action in the event of a truely inflammatory message. "God bless the Pope" is NOT inflammatory. I fail to understand why you don't that. And it would seem that UEFA agree with me.

Atheist

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02 May 2011 00:05:06
Goven o here wot ur saying mate, Davies shirt had nothing to do with religion or beliefs where as borcs did. And that's something that should be defo kept off the old fim for everyones sake. Goven do you think we would have had the same reaction is an epl team done it?? Eg man u or everton.

C-bear85

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