Rangers Banter Archive July 02 2013

02 Jul 2013 21:50:57
Right guys with the new signings on hand and hopefully a few more what about this roughly:


Bell

Foster Berra Pandza Wallace

Little Macleod Law Templeton

Clarke Daly


Subs: New keeper, smith, perry, black, shiels, mckay, peralta and so on.
WATP

I always find this funny, people putting players who probably won't sign in their teamsheets

We do not need a new sub keeper for division2!

Anyone who believes mculloch won't be in the team next year is dilluded.

He is the club captain and the guy with the biggest desire for rangers to do well on the pitch.

he WILL play every game this year, if fit.

L would expect mcculloch to be in the starting eleven possibly alongside Law in midfield depending on what centre backs we sign.
Midfield Macleod McCulloch Law Templeton.
Front two Daly Clark/or Little.
Hopefully nobody bids for Wallace in. the Transfer window but Smith can over the L. B position.
It all depends if we sign anyone to cover CB but it's a priority.

02 Jul 2013 15:31:53
Does anybody know if we'll be putting forward a team for the Scottish Under 20s League this season?

Better ask Jukebox now that another 'jobs for the boys' position has been filled.

02 Jul 2013 14:34:56
Anyone heard of this Bosnia defender Boris Pandaza the newspapers are saying we are signing?
Yan999

02 Jul 2013 17:36:43
Pandaza is only coming over for a trial and to have a look at the place and for ally to get a closer look at him and his fitness as he was out a lot last year due to injures, might sign if it dosent harm is international career and only if we can get rid of some player especially the johnny foreigners at the back

02 Jul 2013 19:07:01
whose actually scouting for us at the moment or are relying on the likes of sasa Papic to tip us the wink about promising players?

No. But I like the way everyone is jumping up and down about him signing and how great he'll be. He may be mince. Everyone got excited about cribari because he played champs league. He wasn't a bit interested in playing div 3. Or prob div 2, 1 or SPL for that matter! Just a drain on resources. Let's not get too excited. If he is any good he'll play championship.

02 Jul 2013 12:02:46
Has anybody seen the Herald yesterday? We will have a squad of 30 + for the 3rd teir of Scottish football. Who the hell is paying for all this? Why are we not seeing the accounts? If you believe the rumours we are heading for deep financial trouble. And all I read about on this site is who we are signing next? We are sleepwalking into the abyss and this time there will be no way out!

Just to put something 'out there', would it be the worst thing in the world if club were to go into administration again? Not 100% sure of the proceedings, but perhaps a proper clear out could happen. Maybe, just maybe, some people- Rangers minded- would welcome it, you just never know.

p. s

Before anyone starts mouthing off, I am not actively endorsing this, lol.

And you know this for a fact do you m8? how do you know Rangers financial position? has it not occured to you that Rangers are run by businessmen? who may actually be quite happy with the position? every day there's someone else on her screaming, we, re all doomed ffs give it a rest,

Until audited accounts are produced it's guess work mate. Why the delay? It seems like there may be something to hide in them.

02 Jul 2013 13:25:44
@2: heard it all before when Murray then Whyte were running the club. Is it not ok if fans have questions about sustainability? Or should they just blindly trust it'll be ok this time?

2) "has it not occured to you that Rangers are run by businessmen?"

Oh well, that's convinced me. After all, businessmen can always be relied upon to make the right decisions like Craig Whyte and David '800,000m in debt' Murray have shown.

Seriously you don't even wonder what has happened to the 14m that has disappeared off the IPO money?

No wonder so many spivs are attracted to Ibrox knowing so that many fans refuse to question anything going on at the club.

@2/ Rangers were run by 'businessmen' when they hit the rocks as well. Get it straight, Green and Ahmad still have their sticky fingers in the pie. Have you seen the amount of companies Green set up covering all income streams? Another admin would not bother him in the slightest. He has made his cash, it's all gravy now. Wake up and smell the coffee.

There isn't any delay in the accounts. The financial year end is 30th June (as per club website) and I believe stock exchange rules require that audited accounts should be published within 3 months. Accounts will therefore be published before end of September.

@7. the accounts were due end of april sfa rules. shammy

@8. The rules also state that if a full set of annual accounts is not available then a set of interim accounts should be submitted. A set of interim accounts were produced to 31/12/2012 and published on stock exchange. I can't say for certain that these were sent to SFA/SFL but if its in public domain anyway there is nothing to hide. Have SFA/SFL said they haven't received these?

@8 shammy this has been done to death you know exactly the rules for accounts and there is no delay.
So go back to your own site and explain to your fellow green and grey followers there is no bear baiting as you refer to it tonight. PB

02 Jul 2013 21:34:31
@9 Has anyone asked them directly?

@ 11. No idea if anyone has asked. Why don't you ask but hey go the full hog and ask if all 42 clubs have submitted theirs.

@2 Rangers finances. At the end of December last year Rangers accounts confirmed a £5 million loss. This included 35,000 season ticket sales income. RFC went on to sell a further 3, 500 season tickets so you would have to conclude the loss is now much greater than £5 million. Depending on what pay off the Romanian actually received for leaving it was equal to the income RFC receives from between 1, 423 and 1, 667 season tickets at £300 each. The maths quite simply do not add up and to simply place your head in the sands and say problem what problem is exactly the attitude that allowed Murray and more particularly Whyte to get us into the near fatal mess of last year. Craig Mather's statement that players need to be moved on is long overdue. Ally McCoist want's the best possible team which is understandable but the sums do not add up without many of the names already mentioned being moved on but who will have them? Looks like more pay offs= more season ticket incomes being used to reduce the ever increasing wage bill which is probably not the best use of your main income stream. Unless the new sponsorship deals are really sweet there is no surprise that the £22million received from the share issue in now a lot less. Will Rangers survive- yes but we do need a lottery win or a manager who can work to a strict budget.

02 Jul 2013 10:55:49
Squad for next season (Two players for each position

Bell/Kello

Foster/Argyriou
Wallace/S Smith
Berra/Emilson
Pandza/Faure

Peralta/Black
Law/Sheils
Templeton/Aird
McLeod/Crawford
Little/McKay

Daly/McCulloch
Clark/Novo

I'd keep Hegarty, & Perry, and try and loan out Gallacher, Cole, Gasparatto, Mitchell, Hutton, & K Naismith.

Novo? Are you for real. Lose a young player for an old.

Ridiculous. the website already has 27 players in their shiny new blackthorn shirts. 27! and you want to add six more names. and loan out six. do you realise this cost money that rangers simply do not have. use the youth and reserves is what has to happen until next division up

Are we lining up in a 4-5-2 then?

Sledgehammer to crack a walnut!

q. o. t. s won it by 24 points last year with a squad of players that none of us outside dumfries have ever heard of .

so with a team of spl players, playing the same teams, anything less than a 30 point margin will be embarrassing for you.
just as I pointed out to the guy yesterday, he was predicting clark and daly would get 45 goals between them this season. with that team I would sack both if they didn't get 75. shammy

Christ I thought we would've breezed this league anyway but now we can play 4-5-2 I'm convinced another record breaking season on the cards lol

Larky Bear

Who would you loan out - there is no one who would be offered on loan good enough to play at the top level in Scotland & the wages paid at ibrox is far to much for any of the teams in the 2nd league to pay. I doubt if any of the lower English leagues would be intersted

I think the orginal post is simply split into GK, DEF, MIDF & FWDS. No formation was mentioned.

02 Jul 2013 09:15:18
Ok no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong, we are going to a new league structure with a completely new orginisation being formed, Rangers will get full membership but why are the restrictions still in place on signings, shouldn't all teams start with a clean slate the day this orginisation comes into being. Yhis way we can leave what has happened in the past and all move on.

Celtic Fan

Valid point but who knows.

Absolutely agree.

Your post comes from Common Sense mate but personally I'd rather we just finished our embargo so we cannot be pasted with the preferential treatment brush.

Larky Bear

Restrictions are imposed by the sfa, not spl/sfl/spfl so we just need to wait it out. In the league we are in we shouldn't really be paying transfer fees for established players. Possibly fess for hot prospects who can be sold on when we reach the top league again

Larky Bear I disagree I feel the whole of scottish football has to move on and @4 Rangers are missing the opportunity of of building a team of young talent, yeh maybe no glory days for a few years but these young lads coming up through the leagues with Rangers having to work their socks off, you bears would have some team also good resale value for the players bringing cash in for the club. There seem so be to many missed opportunities.

@5. Rangers can't afford to not get promoted. This is why they are building a squad way above what is required. What if we chance our arm and played the youngsters then say come December we were off the pace or struggling to get away from the others? That's right, embargo over, no free agents available. You got it spend 500k - 800k on each SPL type player. Better to get them now when they are free. We have to ensure promotion. End of.

Celtic fan? aye right , on this site it's not a completely new organisation, it's the same organisation, with the same name and same history. shammy

You don't need of SPL players to win this league. You only need a good manger like QoS had last year and a budget of £300,000.
We will have the second largest budget in Scottish Football

N7 shammy you are a celtic fan on this site