Rangers Banter Archive January 02 2020

02 Jan 2020 20:25:25
Hey guys with transfer window open now. If teams come in for our players what would you price tag them at starting value.

Barisic - for me right up there with the best LB in Europe just his pace at times let's him down ( if wee KT turnstile goes for £25m I think borna is more gifted too him I'd say ) £25m

Goldson - £15m
Katic - £20m ( I like this guy more haha )
Tav - £25m+
Helander - £8m

Jack - £10m - 18m
Davis - £4m past his time
Arfeild - £8m+
Airbo - £6-7m
Kent £9m

Morelos - £30m ( easy proven goal scorer although not scored against Celtic but he bullies their defenders )

I know what people will say fifaguy stick to FIFA with these prices. but why should we be scared to slap a big price tag on our players. Down south most of these players would go for double that amount.

Thoughts and prices on these players guys?

02 Jan 2020 21:32:14
15 million for goldson? You value him higher than jack? Our players our prices. But no consistency in your prices. Arfield valued more than aribo and only a million more than Kent? When you think of age and ability none of this makes sense. Need to have a rethink and repost I think.

02 Jan 2020 21:59:37
Tav 25mil c'mon mate behave yourself. 👍.

02 Jan 2020 22:05:51
25 million for tav? 🤔.

02 Jan 2020 22:24:44
No rethink mook. Just think arfeild has done more then both them at this time. Be interesting too see what u value them at.

03 Jan 2020 00:29:35
I must say this is the best laugh i have had in a while on these pages. Talk about blue tinted specs. would be lucky to recover more than the 3 mill we paid out on goldson. Tav 4-5mill at a push. Katic literally only just back in team. would still command an good 5 or 6 mill would expect. Helander has shown he's worth 3.5 never mind 8 very slow. jack agree. Nobody pay over a mill for davis due to age. He will b with us till retirement and right now priceless to the team. Again arfield way off. Kent break even, morelos 20mill. barisic 20mill.

03 Jan 2020 02:28:11
Goldson - £6-8m
Katic - £5-7m
Tav - £8-10m
Helander - £4-6m

Jack - £7-10m
Davis - past his time
Arfield - £4-6m
Aribo - £5-7m
Kent £7m+

Morelos - £18m+
This is solely what i believe they're worth or what we would accept if clubs came in for the players. Some of your prices are crazy mate 😂😅.

03 Jan 2020 03:04:19
Arfield is 31/ 32. Aribo/ Kent are about 22. That alone affects value. Same with the Barasic/ Tierney comparison. I love Borna but he’s about 5 years older than Tierney.

As for £25+ for Tav, I don’t even know where to begin with that. He’s 27/ 28 and can’t defend.

This is a mental post from start to finish I’m afraid.

03 Jan 2020 08:22:11
Barisic- £18m+
Tav- £8m+
Goldson- £8m+
Katic- £14m+
Jack-£10m+
Kamara- £10m+
Arfield-£3-4m
Davis-?
Aribo-£2-3m
Kent-£8m+
Morelos-£20m+
I'd like to point out I don't want any of them sold.

03 Jan 2020 09:33:12
McGregor – No real value / Not for sale
Fod – £1m
Tav - £8m
Goldson - £5m
Helander - £3m
Barasic - £15m+
Katic - £6m+
Jack - £10m
Davis – No real value / Not for sale
Kamara - £10m
Aribo - £3m
Arfield – No real value / Not for sale
Kent - £10+
Morelos - £25m+
Docherty - £500k
McCrorie - £500k
Jones - £1m
Stewart - No real value / Not for sale
Flanagan - No real value / Not for sale.

03 Jan 2020 11:38:13
McGregor – No real value due to age
Fod – £0.5m
Tav - £5m
Goldson - £4m
Helander - £4m
Barasic - £15m+
Katic - £5m
Jack - £7m
Davis – No real value due to age
Kamara - £7m
Aribo - £7m
Arfield - £3m
Kent - £5m
Morelos - £25m+
Docherty - £0.5m
McCrorie - £1m
Jones - £1m
Stewart - £0.5m
Flanagan - Free.

03 Jan 2020 12:08:43
Our 2 full backs are very important to the way we play under steven gerrard. I rate james tavernier and borna barisic very highly indeed. I reckon if i was putting a current price on their heads, in the current transfer market and their value to rangers i would say tavernier is in the £12million-£15million bracket and barisic is in the £15million-£20million bracket! Two superb attacking full backs, with both more comfortable going forward than defending. In saying that tav has improved over his years with us, at his defending, but i think barisic is the better defender of the two!
Both are equally as good as each other in the attacking sense. I think to date tav has 12 assists this season and barisic has 13 already this season. that's superb at the half way point, in the season!

03 Jan 2020 13:48:47
If Tav was as good as Barisic on any level England would look at him. Barisic is world class. Tavernier cannot lace his boots.

03 Jan 2020 14:23:50
I like you coops and enjoy your stuff. No way imo we get close to that for tav. Couldn't see more than 8, that's at pub league prices. Think the 15 for borna is spot on, 1st choice for croatia with the euros coming up pumps his values up 👍.

03 Jan 2020 14:25:40
Cambiger, Buy your estimates Kent has lost aalmost 30% his value since signing? In this time has played well, setting up goals in europe and scoring against celtic? Both Katic and Kamara players i would value higher and would be keen to hold on to until after the euros.

03 Jan 2020 18:20:50
Dunfermline loyal he could have a point. Bar celtic game he's not really been producing. Think 7 mill we paid a bit over the odds. he's no really justified the 7mill since being back.

03 Jan 2020 18:57:39
Give ryan kent a wee bit more time as he had a bad hamstring injury right away when he signed permanently for us. Kenty is a class act, don't worry about that. The doubters will be on here saying the£7.5million we paid for him was an absolute steal, in the not too distant future!

03 Jan 2020 20:44:23
Cheers Paul, that was my point . I do think we overpaid for Kent, while still valuing him at £5m I’m by no way saying he’s a bad player and is a def starter for me I just felt we overpaid and if we were to resell would be lucky to get our mny back at the moment . I also tried to be a bit more realistic with values as some think every player in team is £10m plus .

04 Jan 2020 00:06:39
Paul86., kents goal at parkhead is good enough reason for big spend.

04 Jan 2020 12:05:13
Csmbi, he was at the airport on way to Belgium for same price when we bid. definitely didn't overpay we will make money on kenty.

04 Jan 2020 13:49:45
I think some of the valuations people are putting on our players are a joke, remember they're playing in Scotland, 20 million barasic not a chance he's had one good season.

02 Jan 2020 18:52:49
we need to keep all of our first team players for the second half of the season then move on who wants to leave at the end of the season, this season is all about the league title.

02 Jan 2020 19:04:22
I believe their is a good chance we could lose Kamara this window if the club receives a decent offer.
Though the player himself will probably prefer to wait until after the European Championships in the summer and see how he performs with Finland by putting himself in the shop window.

03 Jan 2020 12:00:34
Mr pacman, sorry matecant see kamara being allowed to leave, this window, for two easy reasons, one his price will rocket, if he has a good euro2020, and the great job he is currently doing at our club,

02 Jan 2020 18:07:15
Didn't know much about the Ibrox disaster and it came up on a news feed over here and i read the story. Youngest Casualty 9 years old, beggars belief how someone as young as that doesn't come back from a football match. This time of year must be horrific for those affected. For what it's worth, thoughts and respects for the families affected. Football is only a game, life is bigger.

02 Jan 2020 18:19:48
Very thoughtful bribhoy.
Terrible thing to happen.
Hopefully these sort of incidents never happen again.
The 66 will always be remembered. 💙.

02 Jan 2020 18:26:01
Well said brib.

02 Jan 2020 20:41:33
Classy mate it's just kicking a ball In the grand scheme of things.

02 Jan 2020 17:43:55
I see we have arrange a friendly with loko Tashkent from Uzbekistani in Dubai. I think we missed a trick here as I think we should have maybe arranged a friendly with a Portuguese outfit in preparation for our eufa cup tie.

02 Jan 2020 18:38:19
Why would we want to go to Portugal when our winter camp isi. Dubai Stewart.

03 Jan 2020 00:53:42
Oh dear are we travelling 2 Uzbekistani for the friendly, no. They are travelling 2 Dubai to play us. I just think we should have asked a team from Portugal to travel to Dubai for the friendly. As the next round in Europe is Portuguese opponents. Thus helping us prepare and adapt to the Portuguese styles of play.

03 Jan 2020 07:26:49
Stewarty, what possible benefit does this give? One game won't even allow us to acclimatise to possible style or even balmy climate.

03 Jan 2020 10:16:27
In Portugal they have a certain style of play in the main as does most countries. What benefit apart from keeping our players sharp is there in playing a team from Uzbekistani as we are unlikely to face a team from that area in the near future. So playing a team that have a similar style of play to Braga would imo only be of benefit in preparation for this game.

03 Jan 2020 14:27:18
Stewarty we already played Porto this season. I also assume u know there is no winter break in the Portugal league.

03 Jan 2020 19:15:12
John I'm sure if we contacted say benfica or one of the other top Portuguese teams and asked them to send their second team, fringe players over for a friendly while also forging some links with them, they would be up for it. Win win.

03 Jan 2020 19:21:57
We will need to agree to disagree Stewarty, I think our management know what they r doing.

02 Jan 2020 13:30:08
Remembering the 66 🙏.

02 Jan 2020 14:06:04
God bless each and everyone off them.
Also every fan who has went to a game and not returned.

02 Jan 2020 14:27:38
Well said guys and you some my feelings up entirely! 💔😪. No fan should go to any football game and never come home! God bless the 66 lost in our ibrox disaster and god bless the 96 liverpool supporters,
who also so tragically lost their lives in the Hillsborough disaster!
God bless them all and all their families!

02 Jan 2020 14:43:05
Remember that day As if it was yesterday, My mother frantically trying to phone Glasgow to find out who had been injured or killed as my brother was at the game, R. I. P. the 66, Russell Malcom One off Broxburns own, 🙏.

02 Jan 2020 15:28:51
Yes my mum was the same mate, as my late dad, my uncle and another 4 of their pals all normally stood in staircase 13,in the copland road stand. They moved as it was more congested than it normally was, long before the end of the game! I was only 4 years old at the time. From my dad, my uncle and their 4 pals who were in attendance that fateful day,
only my uncle is still alive today! 😪.

02 Jan 2020 17:55:54
Dont forget the Juventus fans at Hysel. They are frequently overlooked for some reason.

02 Jan 2020 19:40:13
Well said lads. I was only a young boy at the time but can still vividly remember the pain and anguish in our house that day and subsequent weeks. Great to see John Greig leading the club at wreath laying. ceremony today.

02 Jan 2020 13:07:58
As well as the obvious players leaving our squad that gerrard doesn't see getting into our team, i also have a gut feeling that both jordan jones and glen kamara will be sold this month. Really do hope we don't sell kamara, but i think there's too many clubs interested in signing him, thus becoming an auction and rangers more than likely, will be offered money they can't refuse, for kamara.

02 Jan 2020 13:39:45
Arfield can then slot in there. Feel we would be short tho. So would have to sign another centre mid with docherty and king likely away.

02 Jan 2020 14:06:47
We need to keep kamara at all costs👍.

02 Jan 2020 14:51:58
I tend to agree with coldo, although 15-18 million leaves us a decision to make.

02 Jan 2020 15:23:55
Don’t think Kamara is one we desperately need to keep. I like him but I think Arfield can slot in next to Davis and Jack without any real drop in quality, and hopefully if we get £15m for him the management team have a replacement identified for around £5m?

02 Jan 2020 15:31:50
I also agree with both coldo and John25,but also understand that money talks!

02 Jan 2020 16:31:32
I agree with swagman that if we have to lose one of the players quoted I think Kamara would be the easiest gap to fill . Having said that I would still rather keep them all for now .

02 Jan 2020 17:13:30
Keep kamara till summer. Has a good euros his value will skyrocket.

02 Jan 2020 10:34:29
What I find so funny is that all these pundits, ex players and the media, where saying 18 months ago that our beautiful club where between 5 - 10 years behind smeltic and it will take between 50 - 100 million to catch up. Ha ha now 18 months on its Smeltic that need to spent to live with us. Hilarious.

02 Jan 2020 14:19:26
To be fair though 18 months we were 5 or 10 year behind them. We had players like holt windass pena herrera playing for us and we couldn't beat a part time team from luxembourg over 2 legs. 18 month ago we were a laughing stock. But you are right fast forward and now they need to spend to catch us. that's why its imperative that we keep our key players like kent kamara jack morelos barasic katic etc and we hit the ground running after the break. We need morelos on the park not in the stand so he needs to keep it together. We are in a great position👍.

02 Jan 2020 14:35:42
I agree coldo and for all that other mob and majority of sportswriters,
who said how many rangers first team players, would get into the celtic first team? Now the question should be how many of their first team players, would get into our starting 11? Hardly any IMHO! How many do we think fellow bears? 🤔🤔.

02 Jan 2020 15:26:13
I was reading in the Record today them saying Celtic had the better individual players but we are a better unit! Ridiculous. At this point I wouldn’t take any of their starting 11 in our starting 11.

02 Jan 2020 17:15:27
Callum McGregor would walk into our midfield. don't like them but he's the full package.

02 Jan 2020 18:06:35
Play him on the right for aribo herewego other than that there is no way he plays in any of the central positions. Our midfield three made him look average in the last two old firm games👍.

02 Jan 2020 02:26:04
Not football related.

I just watched the James English interview with Allan Bryant talking about the disappearance of his son Allan Bryant jnr. The young Celtic fan went missing after leaving a night club at 2am in his hometown of Glenrothes, Fife in November 2013. Please go and watch the video of this poor man's struggle to find answers of his sons whereabouts. Like, share and tell people about this case. The more exposure it gets, will hopefully bring the family closer to finding out the truth about Allan.

The full interview can be found on the James English channel on YouTube.

02 Jan 2020 09:03:52
Shouldn’t be promoting Mr English on this forum and I don’t understand why🇬🇧.

02 Jan 2020 09:40:12
My god man. Some people on these pages.

02 Jan 2020 10:52:45
Sometimes things are bigger than a grudge yately 👍 sad watch tbh no idea how people cope with stuff like that.

02 Jan 2020 11:05:37
Yately are u getting mixed up with Tom English and James english. james is a podcaster who has a YouTube channel the other Tom English is a BBC sports reporter.

02 Jan 2020 11:50:10
Yately if you are going to be bitter and twisted, at least get your facts straight. It was not the same English. While you are at it get yourself a dictionary and look up the word EMPATHY. Unfortunately you are sorely lacking in that department. As a lifelong rangers fan (66 years) I feel sympathy for any human being who is going through what this father is going through. Be a man and post an apology.

02 Jan 2020 16:51:50
hello folks just read a couple of posts in my own team's Banter page
In regard to a minutes applause as a mark of respect of the death of Dunky Mc May a great player on the pitch and a gentleman off it seemingly the response of the away support was abysmal to say the least I vividly remember that day when 66 poor souls died I was at the game I can remember our Manager at the time Jock Stein immediately running towards the affected area to help, what I'm trying to say at the end of the day is, its only a round ball that's getting kicked around Not worth losing our decency for.

02 Jan 2020 18:23:58
Jmcg I was at the game on Sunday, genuinely never heard any booing. However I am stunned this alleged booing from some of the 800 could be heard above 59000 your mob.