Rangers Banter Archive February 02 2020

02 Feb 2020 20:24:16
OK fellow supporters, most of us are hurting with the past few performances where we should have blown teams away and failed miserably.

Any comments I have made about Stevie are only my feelings some good some not.
I still think if we don't get results after next season and they get their ten in a row he could not survive the wrath of the majority.

I am still behind him and hope he can get us going again sooner rather than later as his ultimate goal is to get the Liverpool managers job.
That will not happen for him if he fails us over the next two years.

02 Feb 2020 23:50:13
Blue billy. with some of the posts on here . it looks like the Lynch mob would be out if we were to drop anymore points . it’s them that are clueless in my opinion.

03 Feb 2020 11:07:14
Say's that guy that needs a map to for patter eh molsgoals😂👍.

02 Feb 2020 16:49:06
I think it's going to be massive tst for SG from now till the end of the season. Again I'm going to say it. Judge SG as our manager and not A player. I think tactically he is clueless if I'm honest. Well you can say we beat Celtic at Parkhead but they beat us in that cup and won it. The Parkhead game is now over. We are 7 points behind with a game in hand. We need to change our tactics for a start. Morelos needs more support. Its time to start going 2 up top. People will say well that's not our game. Well something has to change and change quick. If Ojo comes back on that park at any other game then SG should go back down to Liverpool with him and coach the under 18's or whatever it was. In the 18 months that he's been here it's clear that tactics are clearly not his strong point. I actually can't believe he brought Ojo on yesterday. The way some of our guys have been treated is a disgrace. Sorry that's my own opinion. Aribo should be dropped or moved position. Kamara needs dropped as well. Play a 4-4-2. Other than a great run in Europe has SG realky done much more than other managers? I don't think so. We haven't won any silverware. If he doesn't win anything at the end of the season I think it's time up.

02 Feb 2020 17:41:50
As1974, I try to be positive about most things but I also try and be honest to. Facts are we've been poor against Stranraer, St Mirren, Hearts and Aberdeen with no signes of improving. What do you do when things are broken? - You fix it. Unfortunately nothing has been fixed and dare I say it - that's down to the manager. No more mistakes Gerrard, this can be fixed.

02 Feb 2020 17:50:15
Thankfully the club doesn't agree with you AS1974. We've come on leaps and bounds this season compared to last. Has the games since the January break been disappointing/ poor? Yes. I think that's down to players being out of form, not that the tactics are necessarily wrong. Kent, kamara, aribo, Davis aren't suddenly bad players? No
Does that mean I think SG hasn't made mistakes? No I think he's made a few. His unwillingness to use his first team squad. Docherty, Jones, even Middleton could have been played, especially in the league games. If they're not good enough why sign them?
I still think we can win the league this season, if we can get back to playing like we were before Xmas.

02 Feb 2020 18:04:29
I like your reply and I'm the same as you. Tell me how it can be fixed? You think SG will change formation? Drop his pals? No chance. Sorry but he's not done it from day one. Why would he change it now? His tactics are the same game in game out.

02 Feb 2020 18:15:12
Mr grumpy your kind of contradicting yourself. Your saying if they players aren't good enough then why sign them? Well who signed them or at least advised the board to buy them. That's got to be SG. Aribo has done next to nothing since signing. Kent was bought for 7m. Yes 7m. He was worth 3m at best. he's also done next to nothing since coming back. So explain why we've came on leaps and bounds? Yes we, ve done well in Euopre but the minute we get near the top of the league we blow it. Davis been brilliant but we can't play a guy week in week out at his age. I said we need to utilise our squad. We didnt. 2 huge mistakes as now we are starting to get injuries. If you think we can win the league with that squad mate your in cloud cuckoo land.

02 Feb 2020 18:28:35
Total mince As1974.Gerrard has improved us big time since he inherited a total shambles. We've beaten celtic 3 times in 18 months under him and much closer to celtic.
So there's improvement alright unless you're blinkered? It was always going to take time and i actually stated on here it would take around 3 years all being well, to challenge the ANTHILL MOB seriously. Gerrard has closed the gap quicker than i thought.

02 Feb 2020 18:30:26
Totally with you mrgrumpy 200% pal.
I agree with everything you posted above mate.

02 Feb 2020 18:38:29
God some of the posts on here are beyond belief the formation we play got us within two points of Celtic with a game in hand yes form has dipped since the break but that has nothing to do with the formation it’s down to players loosing form Kamara, Davis, Oribo all lost form Kent has fell away even Katic who has been a tower has fell away Barasic has struggled we have lost Jack, Tav, Defoe we don’t become a bad team overnight I think our problem is we have a good starting eleven when fit and on form we have two or three decent subs but we don’t have strength in depth in our pool and that’s down to finances we are not awash with money hence two loan players in the window so to talk of getting rid of the manager is plain crazy we need to stay with the team and support them.

02 Feb 2020 18:56:20
Gerrard has changed his tactics many times ., I kn we are all hurting but some of the posts on here are not very rational. but I suppose that is the west of Scotland mentality .
Last 32 Europe . realistically still challenging for three competitions. very very unlucky in the final we lost . The team value soared by around 500%
Football people have said Stevos tactics at Parkhead we’re brilliant
Players have just dipped in form . simple
It’s how stevo responds to it and posts like have been posted on here the past days that will determine our future.
Like it or not it is an absolute fact that the boo boys get the players rattled.
This post is not directed at you grumpy, but what I would say is Middleton got a good chance to shine . He was very very predictable and in the end up I agree that he wasn’t good enough .
Ojo has to do more though, if he wants to progress.

02 Feb 2020 19:00:02
SGL So we've beat Celtic 3 times in 18 months? what did that win us or won us? Nothing. I couldn't care less if we beat Celtic 3 times. Weve lost to a piss poor hearts team, dropped 2 points against a poor Aberdeen team and struggled to beat St Mirren and Stranrar. Performances are terrible. SG plays players who are letting him down with also the same formation. When was the last time he changed formation? Has he got a plan B? These are the question you have to ask. We are not going to win the league with these results. That's the bottom line. Let me tell you if this was Caxhinia he would be getting slaughtered!

02 Feb 2020 19:01:49
So Twacos if players dip which it does happen do you keep playing them and drop points or do you drop them and reintroduce them back in to the team?

02 Feb 2020 19:04:24
We have started the year a bit off form, and 2 or 3 key players are under performing, the players not the manager. Kent is our heralded gem, show it for gods sake, take your man on and beat again and again. Once he starts firing I believe the whole team will improve.

02 Feb 2020 19:19:38
How far in the game has that coaching knowledge of yours taken you AS1974?
Celtic only beat us in the cup because we never took our chances in front of goal - nothing to do with Gerrard’s tactics.
And Morelos gets plenty of support - we play 4 - 3 - 3!
And if he didn’t get support he wouldn’t be on nearly 30 goals for the season already. So stop talking nonsense!
And who’s your preferred choice to replace Gerrard? Remember the profile of the club has only risen since his appointment and his achievements in getting is closer to Celtic and getting us to the group stages in Europa League considering the previous basket cases we had as managers!
Be careful what you wish for 👍.

02 Feb 2020 19:44:31
As1974 for god sake we have only been back from break for just over a week we have about six or seven players who have lost form for whatever reason as I said in my post we just don’t have the players to cover that number loosing Jack Tav Defoe is huge what I read on here I don’t see why we need a manager this site is full of experts who talk tactics and formations as if they are experts why didn’t you all apply for the job when it was vacant.

02 Feb 2020 20:10:44
Folks disagree If you want. It's my opinion as you have yours.
Celtic only beat us on the cup because we didn't take our chances? That the best you got? Does that matter? We lost so that's just excuses.
I played football at a decent level but coaching I didn't do.
A blind man can see that the personel needs changed. Am I wrong? Aribo? Kamara? . I am all for giving SG a chance. So hers the question. End of the season and nothing is won. What then?

02 Feb 2020 20:21:48
Donno wether it’s deja-vu or I’m getting you mixed up with someone else but Jesus wept you don’t half repeat yourself. Stop going on man. Yeah we’ve not been great and are clearly suffering from a dip in form but some of our main players have been missing and I feel we will come good again.

02 Feb 2020 20:47:20
I’m 100% in agreement with 1974. SG has had 5 attempts at winning a domestic trophy and delivered 0. If we don’t win the Scottish Cup it will be a double treble of failure.

Ask yourself this - if Derek McInnes or Billy Davies or one of the other names that were bandied about at the time had come in and had the exact same results - would you be as in love with them as you are SG?

We have to take the celebrity blinkers off before it is too late. A couple of good European runs has papered over the cracks.

I’m putting this out there now, and I really pray I’m wrong but if not I’ll be back on to say I told you so - SG will leave Rangers having won us precisely ZERO trophies.

We’ll lose the Scottish Cup, we’ll keep him around next season then eventually fire him when we get knocked out the League Cup and fall behind in the league.

We should never have been used as a nursery school for a rookie manager.

02 Feb 2020 20:50:31
Lots of ifs as1974. I think SG will be managing rangers going into next season.

02 Feb 2020 21:00:43
Posted this instead of replying here wasn’t thinking


As1974.

I see where your coming from - if it was another manager it’s true they would be a lot more folk agreeing with you than arguing with you.

I love Stevie g great player and want him to become a great manager for our club.
but how long does he get is the question
I’m not sure - but there comes a point where I put the club in front of the manager Stevie g is Liverpool through and through
Let’s remember guys we’re all on here as we’re rangers through and through
And end of day it’s our club history and future we care about
I really think we need to wait come end of season and see where we’re at
Did we win the league happy days amazing achievement in 2 years
Did we lose it by a point or two let’s get going Into the following season
Or are we adrift 10 point or more behind then I think the club needs to look at things seriously and decide what our next move is.

02 Feb 2020 21:30:40
So swaggers you don’t like the manager, you publicly slate the players all of the time, you can’t stand the songs we sing on match days so why not go and follow thistle every week and give us peace.

02 Feb 2020 21:46:45
Mr grumpy your in denial.

Thanks Wagsman. exactly my point. SG is being judged as the man, not the manager. Your right. If that was anyone else he would be slated. It's only my opinion but we will win nothing this season again. Overvl and out. Sorry to be negative but shown Wags is right. Our run in Europe is only covering the issues.

02 Feb 2020 22:36:35
Gerrard is still the man for the job but I do think the league title is gone for another season. I do think we should have spent the money available more wisely around the squad rather than pin our teams Hope's on 1 man to do everything and that is now showing with injuries etc.

Gerrard has brought a lot of his own players now he wanted Barker jones polster flanagan Stewart edmondson Grezda ojo king Murphy and the majority of these signings are not contributing much to the team there have been a lot of mistakes made in transfer market and we are paying the prise now as squad players not good enough to replace under performing players.

Also gerrard has still not learnt to make changes when things are not going our way we could all see for weeks that we need changes in team either that be personal or tactic wise Lennon has done it at celtic went 2 up front that is the diffrence that could decide where the title goes we need a plan b when things don't work.

03 Feb 2020 07:32:33
Think it's another great point but do we give SG more money to waste? He wants and buys players and doesn't give them a chance. That's what I can't get my head around. Its baffling. We also bring a guy in (King) from a title winning Leicester. Boy didn't get a sniff.

Yes he makes changes too late and thats down to inexperience. I am all for people learning from mistakes but he's been doing it for 18 months. he's not learning and that's my point. Well he's got till the end of the season for me so please SG start turning things around.

03 Feb 2020 09:38:56
When king was here our midfield were playing outstanding. Maybe that’s why he didn’t get a sniff. Think you need to get off the sniff.

03 Feb 2020 12:48:16
Every Saturday - bet if you were given a choice between the two and you had to pick one you would rather sing your nonsense about Northern Ireland and have Celtic win the league, than not sing it and have Rangers win.

That’s the difference between a bigot and a fan. You’re just there to get drunk and revel in the hate, I’m there to watch my team win, which right now they are struggling to do.

Also, why don’t I go support Thistle if I don’t like the songs? That’s like saying to a German in 1939 if you don’t like the persons move to another country. It takes good people to stand up to the hatred and bile.

03 Feb 2020 13:42:30
So basically I’ve to read about you bitching and complaining about all things Rangers on here all of the time but when I reply I get accused of being a bigoted alcoholic? Who do you think you are and what a ridiculous post that was. Rangers winning comes before any song. And btw my 8 year old son sits with me at ibrox and I drive to the games so no time for drink. Don’t even know why I’m trying to justify myself to the likes of you.

02 Feb 2020 15:47:29
Oh well that's this league finished for another year.
And you all can get on your high horse and say we can still win it.
Dont be daft
Its finished . done and dusted.
Lets move on and hope next season will be our year.
SG will still be our manager and will stop 10 in a row.
Our club and with the best supporters in the world are still in a No One Likes Us bubble.
We won't get no flavours from anyone.
And l for one have hard enough of it.
We can't keep saying win the next so and so games. beat them in the next 2 fixtures. buy this guy. get rid of him.
We won't win nothing this year.
No league. out of europe after next 2 games. and no cup.
So let's all move on and get a grip.
Next season we have to go top and bloody stay there .
Every team in this league when we play them are up for a fight.
Why. cause they hate us.
So we have to hate them more.
But we need the players who want to fight. and i really don't think we have enough players in the squad who are really up for a square go.
We get fired up for the old firm games. but we should be like that againist every team.
But were not.
Sorry for the negative post . but can you blame me.
When all is done and dusted you all can come back and say. you where right.
If am wrong. give me all the cow pancakes and i will take it
Only time will tell eh.
But am right. and you all know i am.

02 Feb 2020 16:08:35
Rabrfc, that's not a negitive post mate, compared to spme of the rubbish that's been spouted on here today& yesterday, leagues finished, phew rangers supporters, glory hunters more like.

02 Feb 2020 16:28:00
How is saying your team is still in a title race being a glory hunter? Need this explained. Also, there is plenty of time to remedy it. Two old firm games to go for a start. Have a bit of belief in your team that the can turn it around for crying out loud.

02 Feb 2020 16:49:22
Glory hunters we've won nothing in years man.

02 Feb 2020 16:51:30
RabRfc that's the biggest load of piffle i have read in years, if you think that mob won't drop points your in noddyland, leagues not over by any means.

02 Feb 2020 18:46:53
Yeh your right
They will drop points
But we will drop more.

02 Feb 2020 19:57:15
Dont see them dropping many points at all being honest. No more slip ups.

02 Feb 2020 20:26:50
we are in danger of believing the media hype that celtic are unbeatable and we need to win the next two old firm games but they will drop points. Rangers have proved this season we are capable of beating them but we must be more clinical in our finishing when playing other teams. Kamara and Davis don't provide a genuine goal threat and the other midfielders are little better. Goals must come from all over the park not just Morelos. Keep faith, don't believe the media hype and stay behind the club. No one said the journey back from the brink was going to be easy but we are definitely coming.

02 Feb 2020 20:27:32
Rab, as much agree recent form has been a downer, way too early to surrender league to Tim's or is it sarcasm? . Looking at Tim's they were crap yesterday and flattered by circumstance. Not worrying that much TBH.

02 Feb 2020 13:00:58
Need to start winning again with confidence. whatever happened in dubai clearly got us slipping. next winter break why not keep it local because obviously living it large ain't working.

02 Feb 2020 16:10:13
Because Gerrard the celebrity loves Dubai.

02 Feb 2020 12:45:12
Surely now middleton should be in the squad if ojo gets a game.

02 Feb 2020 13:32:25
Middleton not at rangers swagger.

02 Feb 2020 12:41:49
I'll never say it's over till its mathematically possible. My concern just now is that we have been poor in the 4 games previous to today. This is when you would think that Gerrard would say "let's try something different because it's not working just now, it's too predictable". However this isn't the case. We just play the exact same formation/ tactics. It's starting to come across as stubborn now.

02 Feb 2020 13:19:19
Agree with you Orange Tinted, because of course the league is nowhere near over.

02 Feb 2020 15:39:16
It’s over Celtic are flying and we are struggling to overcome the weakest teams in the league, sadly it’s a long way back.

02 Feb 2020 18:52:38
And we were flying before winter break. In football, things can change that quick. As much as I will admit that there seems no slowing them down the now, you never know what's round the corner in terms of a sticky patch for them. We get back to winning ways, get a winning run going for the OF at ibrox, beat them and we would only be a maximum of 1 point behind. And that's saying that they don't drop points at all.

02 Feb 2020 11:17:36
If we win nothing this year does SG come under pressure?
I think the progress made means he gets next season as to rip it up and start again wouldn't be affordable also his appointment was always a longer term project. I think scottish Cup would take a lot of pressure off.
What do you guys think.

02 Feb 2020 12:02:04
I think he gets at least next season whatever happens and hopefully some more money for players. The problem is we have fallen so far behind after several years not playing at this level with everything that happened to our great club, it can't be solved overnight. I think SG has done very well indeed to get us challenging. Celtic are nothing special. Maybe Dubai is the problem. If so, next year go to Carnoustie!

02 Feb 2020 12:14:07
Yeah, it would be a boost for him and us onewalt.

If only he was as good as some of us think we are on here the league would have been won last season, but looks like going to be the same again fighting for 2nd place.

02 Feb 2020 13:51:49
Dubai doesn't seem to be a problem for that mob tho.

02 Feb 2020 10:07:44
Just watched a few clips of hagi on you tube. that guys not came to gers to be a sub. he's came to take over. Rangers WILL sign him for 5mil and he will be here for next season and be sold for a huge profit at the end of next season. let's face it. We are a step up from genk . we are effectively his stepping stone to a much better league. the boys got great skills and if we play him in the right position he will cruise this league. he reminds me of coutinho. not saying he's as good as coutinho. just saying he reminds me of him the way he plays.

That striker from hibs was a panic buy. he's crap. only thing going for him is he's a giant upfront.

Do i still think we can win the league. before the winter break nothing wouldve stopped me betting everything i had that we would. defence still awesome they're doing their job. kent aribo davis are not. Whatever happened in dubai needs to be sorted and fast because i tell you now.

celtic will batter us six ways from sunday if we continue to play like this. people blaming gerrard. no chance. he's not the 1 on the pitch. he's a manager. half of you jumping down his throat the minute we don't win is embarrassing. And can someone let ojo know there's a train from glasgow central to liverpool at 8am in the morning. I will pay his ticket. he's piss poor.

Get the shooting boots back on boys and get back to winning ways and we will be there at the end. celtic will slip up at some point and i just hope we are good enough when that time comes to take that opportunity to close the gap then beat them and go top and stay there. don't want them to get 9iar and its an absolute must they don't get 10.

I will always stick by gerrard as in my eyes he's picking his best team. not one of you on here could do a better job with the team we have. ( apart from ojo) its up to the ones actually on the park to put that round thing in the net.

We don't have the money to go out and spend spend spend so i think he's doing a good job with what we can afford. until that time comes around again and we can go out and buy our laudrups and gazzas again then have a little trust in our manager and the backroom staff. If the players he chooses are good enough for him. Then they're good enough for me and should be for you lot as well. ( apart from ojo and that hibs guy) gerrard can choose who he wants when he wants. its up to the players to actually do the job they're paid for.

Morelos was just back from a 3 game suspension . and looked a bit out of his depth today. won't be the same next game. or do you lot want him gone now because he didn't score? Its a joke.

Can we play better. yes
Will we get better. yes
Will celtic lose a few . yes
Will we beat them twice. Hope so
Will we win the league. hope so
Do i trust the team. yes

(Apart from ojo)

happy reading.

02 Feb 2020 10:16:28
Not nice but buck stops with the manager, it's just the way football is. has to try something else it's not working just now.

02 Feb 2020 10:48:34
Spot on Herewego, it's the same in every business "THE BUCK STOPS WITH THE MANAGER" and ours is no exception.

He choses the team / he choses the formation / he choooses the tacticts (wi a little advice from coaches etc) .

Had he been fully experienced as a manager we would have won the league last season when we had the best chance.

I expect him to be here next season but after that if no silver he's gone guaranteed.

02 Feb 2020 14:22:11
Blue billy, c'mon to feck mate, get your thinking head on, do you think we gave sg a contract extention so as he gets a bigger payout when he gets sacked, the guy is just about the only manager we have got with his pulling power, without him celtic would win the league indefinetly, sg is only here 18 month, trying to close an 8 year gap, i don't know tho you think could do a better job, tell me, who would him to rangers, considering our current predicament, tell me who will fix it then.

02 Feb 2020 09:55:20
Rushed home from work to catch the second half of the game . wish i hadnt bothered . That was a terrible display . Gutted with that performance. Ref wasnt exactly helpful good 2 3 yellows not given to the sheep. plus a red for an elbow. but as a whole not the rangers i'm used to watching. last few games not been great. wouldn't have been that bad had we got the win as 3 points is 3 points but that whole 2nd half was as if aberdeen were playing for a title.

02 Feb 2020 12:37:56
Igglepiggle, why do some on here think other teams go about us more than they do to others.

Are they expected to lie down to us like manks did for the sheep last season so we won't get 2nd spot.

No point blaming other clubs for our poor performances WE ARE TO BLAME.

02 Feb 2020 08:44:08
Yet again we can't break a team down, have we won a second ball this year? We look so off the pace! Most of our players look jaded, something doesn't seem right! Davis looks a wee bit slack as did jack before injury Kamara too!

Katic was a scare yesterday! Barisic delivers not usual standard, wingers not really doing it, Morelos didn't seem himself either. Only McGregor got pass marks for me! Jury is out on new guys! We need to be sharper that's for sure.

02 Feb 2020 12:47:51
Think we no know why Morelos head wasn’t in it yesterday? what a mess that is! His wife by keeping shtoom has made the club, manager and supporting fans just look stupid our off field PR is a disaster.

02 Feb 2020 07:21:08
See some folk suggesting Gerrard has taken us as far as he can. Some folk disagree.

Question is Who is actually signing the barkers the Ojo's, grezda, lafferty Flanagan. Is it actually him himself or is it the director of football? Are these players the ones he would have picked given the chance. If not could he have maybe picked better players from the same budget? I don't know the answer to that.

But someone has pointed out under same circumstance with how much we're closing the gap if it was another manger would be still be giving him same length of time?

If we don't win this league this year, What are our options going forward? Do we have the recourses to get rid of players who are not doing it just now and starting a fresh again I'm not sure?

But we All agree current situation has to change ASAP
why can't we break down teams. What's the difference from before winter break to the start of 2nd half. Again I don't know the answer.

But I do agree is not winning this league I think the situation has to be addressed in the summer. Depending how far off it we end up if we don't win it. And a look at the scouting system also has to come into it. Who's is scouting these guys and thinking yes there going to help the club win the league?

If we did change manger who is going to come in and do better with this current crop of players. Don't know the answer

Or are we just to be content sitting in 2nd place getting in Europe and making our money from there and sucking it up for the next couple of years if it does come to the fact we can't compete for the league and watch them go do 10?
If we do that surely we need to start bringing in the youngsters and stop throwing money at players just to finish 2nd.

how long do we give him if we don't win league and we're adrift in 2nd place. Or can he change it round and win every game in league. But how many times do we keep saying that only to draw or worse get beat.

Too many questions, And right now Stevie doesn't have the answers which is becoming increasingly worrying for me anyway.

02 Feb 2020 09:42:38
Over reliant on Morelos, extreme lack of goalscoring creative midfielders, think that just about answers your question. In fairness to Gerrard he is aware of that, hence the loans of Kamberi, extra goal threat, and Hagi the creative number 10. If given the option he would go out and buy real quality, but as we all know, there is no money, his hands are tied as would be those of any replacement manager, so the talk of replacing him is nonsense.

02 Feb 2020 10:13:12
Morelos looked bout 3 yards off the pace yesterday.

02 Feb 2020 14:34:07
The muppet, there is meant to be investment coming in march, let's wait and see eh.