Rangers Banter Archive September 29 2014

 

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29 Sep 2014 23:45:01
The board can't sack mccoist because he knows to much of what's happening in the backround. We would of got to where we are now with all the young players that are on loan and all the young players that left. we did not need top flight players we had the talent and they would all be seasoned pros now with all having played 50 to 100 games each the experience would be crucial to a young hungry team that want to play football not what's in there bank account

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Now I've had time to calm down and reflect on the performance last night I think its time we the fans get rid of ally. the board cannot because they can't afford to so its now up to us. this guy is killing our club more than the board is. he is tactically inept. he has no clue how to change things when it goes pete tong and his team selections are quite frankly embarrassing. I am starting to dislike ally more than neil lennon!! Staying away from gamez is not working. its time to fill ibrox and let ally know his timez up. gutted to be actually saying this. be interesting to see all the ally brigade defend that last night!!

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30 Sep 2014 10:07:00
@ damo666 no we wouldn't the youth couldn't win there own league . and no its not an excuse its a fact .
r.f

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Damo666 got to agree with you on this mate granted it may have taking another season or two but we would have got to top league with a young vibrant team playing for the jersey and not the money and we would have had a very healthy bank balance

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29 Sep 2014 23:39:28
McCoist is paid well over £2,000 every single day of the year ( not to mention perks, pension, car etc) to manage Rangers.

If there are still any of you out there in denial that Ally is the man to manage Rangers. just think on that one statistic and ask yourself why these self interested chancres all keep together and made up the majority of the new share issue take up?

You are lining their pockets today, fattening the pensions for tomorrow. and losing RFC into the bargain as they will all disappear when there is no meat left on the carcass.

50,000 fans can see this - but cannot agree to unite!. and it is YOU that have the power.

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Ayrbear brilliant post mate its just a pity that the difrent groups can't come together to get shot of these asset strippers eh

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Thanks @1. I wish RFC fans realised the sheer power they have.

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29 Sep 2014 23:02:59
I'm not going to comment on our performance as that was evident for us all to see. However when Hibs scored their first McCoist walked straight from the technical area into the dugout. I then continued to watch him and he remained in there for a full 9 minutes! During that time Hibs scored a second and their manager and backroom team were out shouting, encouraging and berating their players whilst our esteemed leader stood with his arms folded. When Hibs scored their third McCoist yet again made a beeline for the dugout where he remained with arms folded for a full 8 minutes till the halftime whistle saved him. Where is the leadership? Hiding in the dugout showing no passion or emotion? That angered me more tonight than the result.

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Thats all he has done stand with his arms folded scince his first fateful foray into europe at the start of his reign he is as much good as a choclate fireguard now that he is coming up against better teams he will be found out time and time again as i have said many times macoist will finnish the club not the board any manager who makes statements like he did about moshni should get as the daleks said exterminate

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Parky7720 i think his time in the dugout was spent texting his local indian resturant ordering his curry to be picked up on his way home

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30 Sep 2014 22:16:38
If McCoist isn't going to go isn't it time we made some change to the management team?they have been together for too long and know nothing. Sometimes a fresh face with fresh input can make a difference, just a thought.

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Johns ally is going nowhere without his full compensation ime begining to wonder if he isn't involved with this whole scam after all he knows how loyal most fans are to the club and he obviously doesn't care as much as he makes out or he would have left gracefully surely

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29 Sep 2014 22:16:42
I stated here over 2 years ago that ally was out his depth as a football manager and that scottish football was finished. What has happened since that time has backed this up. Where do you start with 'super ally the manager'. Totally and utterly clueless is being polite and he should have walked or been sacked a very long time ago. He is a legend as a player and ambassador but as a manager he would struggle to run a pub team. I reckon the vast majority of the support want him to 'walk away' now. As for the SPL and scottish football in general again where do you start - poor quality, overpriced, no competition. The SPL is like watching a one horse donkey derby at Ayr races. Only the die hards in Scotland care. We are currently at league of Ireland status and are a joke to the rest of world football.

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29 Sep 2014 23:20:18
Been to every game at home this season couldn't bare away games if we are playing long ball to boyd no pace no nothing. Dean shields in behind no pace no vision. Mcgregor was all over place smith absolute rotten moshni don't no who sees what in him as a player. Durrant mcdowall mccoist sit with arms folded as goals go in retreat to bench there is nothing at ibrox no half decent players mcleod maybe different but the rest u have players on 6+ grand a week sitting on bench don't no whether to blame board players management cause at moment there all at fault rangers shoudnt be a job should be a luxury makes me sad the days of being confident and winning games comfy r over fans r divided need to join as 1 and then we will be back at the top

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I think that's a bit unfair with the league of Ireland quip, yes celtic will probably win the league, but take celtic out of it, it'll be an exciting season for 2nd place, and don't forget different teams have won the cups recently, and the national side is the highest ranked for years.

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Yesterday a few posters agreed with Barry Ferguson's comments about there not being much between Celtic and Rangers. Sorry guys but that's just wishful thinking and believe me I haven't found Celtic at all impressive under Deila.

More wishful thinking is the idea of sacking Scotland's best paid manager when we only have enough money to last us till November or that Ally might do the honourable thing and resign.

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@1 nearly choked on ma tea there reading that "dean shield has no pace no vision" Lol the guys blind!

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Memaself celtic shouldn't need to be taken out to make the league compeditive there is no point in having a one horse league the sfa have messed up as far as football in our wee country is concerned

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@5, how can you blame the sfa, I'm certainly not big fan of them, but rangers self destructed, and Hibs & hearts where the worst team in top league last year.
Yes I agree a 1 horse race is cr@p, but my example was how competitive it is out with celtic, and don't forget for most of 9 in a row league was a 1 horse race

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29 Sep 2014 22:08:57
Not going back until McCoist has gone. the man's a joke. No one on that board has the balls to sack him.

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Op totally agree sack Ally and gain bit of credibility.

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You can't afford to sack him, a true Rangers man would walk

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Gp123 yes yor right there but his wages obviously mean more to him than his pride

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29 Sep 2014 21:53:45
Peralta and smith are a total joke, and how slow and clumsy are we at the back?? Peralta should've been off that park after that first goal, don't let the ball bounce, and every single corner kick, we where giving away free kicks! Route one football won't get Us back into a game, 0-3 down, our strikers isn't enough for that sort of football, we plotted our own downfall with them goals we gave away!!! Leagues a jog, not a sprint, so now onto livi.

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29 Sep 2014 21:52:00
No fight no spirit no imagination anybody with any tactical sense would pick a formation and pick the best possible team for that formation Ally couldn't pick his arse it's time for him to admit he can't handle being rangers manager and go. Step forward Steve Clarke with Ian Ferguson as his assistant at least Steve Clarke would sort the team out tactically and Ferguson would pump some fire into the squad I was disgusted by that performance and result tonight.

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I have to agree. If he and the team are going to persist with route one football then why didn't he start with Daly up front? If you are going to play the long ball game then at the very least pick the right players ffs.

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If super is going to play the long ball what was the point in bringing players to ibrox the youngsters would have had as much chance as the current players eh or i would have had as much chance as ant of these guys in the long ball stuff its always 50/50/they either get the long punt or they don't this is not managing a team this is more in hope than skill

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30 Sep 2014 12:32:40
T-Bear ------ Steve Clarke and Ian Ferguson ???????????

What a great combination --- agree 100%

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29 Sep 2014 21:48:58
McCoist shouldn't get the sack because we get beat, you are a sore loser if that is what you think. He should get the sack because when we ARE getting beat he doesn't do anything about it. He plays the same goalkeeper who makes mistakes, he plays the same defender who makes the same mistakes and he plays the same striker who cannot score. Players played out of position, defenders playing striker leaving peralta playing center half. That is why. He has no discipline and no tactics.
McCoist isn't going to get sacked let's face it, well not anytime soon. But if he doesn't drop mohnsi, start templeton and drop boyd then i will be happy with seccond place this year.

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Mylesdonald the manager doesn't know anything diffrent from what we have seen these last three years

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29 Sep 2014 21:48:51
absolutely shocking! I thought I was mega negative when reading everyone else's positivity over recent performances but geesus c'mon we are abysmal! Yet again out played out classed and out thought by a team and management team worth a quarter of ours! And before anyone says it was a one off and they took their chances well ( yes they did) I predict we will lose at least another 5-6 games this season. Question's that need answered why take of shiels and put on Daly? Why play Peralta at the back for set pieces? Why do we have better players out on loan than we do in our first team squad? Could Fraser Aird take the ball past a post box? ( hate to criticise a trier but he just ain't got it) just so fed up again. We ain't getting out of this league unless something changes top down!!!!

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Everything was right in your post till your comment about Aird. I was at the game and he was the only one with pass marks. He put in some good crosses, made more than a few decent runs and was unfortunate that the team lost its way and stopped playing down the right. He's not Messi but certainly one of our better players.

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Yes, I watched it on tv and Aird looked like he was the only one who could do something, he was beating players and added some good movement to the forward area.

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29 Sep 2014 21:48:19
It is now officially time to go, and let someone else rescue this season. couldn't make the game tonight, not that i'm in a rush to get to ibrox these days, but based on the team we started with:

Why play a left back (smith) at left wing instead of templeton?

Why play a right back / holding midfielder (peralta) at right wing whilst playing a centre half (mcgregor) at right back? Surely you would play peralta at RB and move mcgregor vack in to the middle.

Why play moshni and mcculloch at CB when mcgregor (RB) and zaliuskas (bench) are the better option?

The team tonight had more defenders than a craig brown scotland team or a walter smith everton team.

Times up coisty.

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Sg we are not supposed to comment on the game if we were not there to watch it well that's according to a poster on here he posts under rf ime begining to think that rf stands for rangers fantisist lol

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29 Sep 2014 21:35:13
Total disgrace, no clue at back, terrible in the air both ends useless upfront.

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Surely no one can defend ally anymore he has not got a clue, he plays one upfront no wingers, a left back at left mid, a very poor cm at RMa centre half at right back and the slowest centre half pairing I have ever seen. Playing the long high ball to Boyd when he is upfront on his own is the worst tactic ever and that seems to be all ally has. To top it off he throws big Daly who is too slow and less mobile than mark Yardley. If Boyd is going to play as a lone striker aired and temps should be on either side of him. We are really bad and its allys fault as any other manager in Scotland could get better out of that squad.

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Jbear must agree mate but don't kid yourself there are some that will defend his tictacs[lol] a certain poster on here will find more excuses for ally i won't name him but i bet everybody on here knows who i speak of

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29 Sep 2014 20:47:06
message to Graeme Wallace -please please please find the cash to cancel Mccoists contract and get a BRUTAL man in to replace himIMMEDIATELY !!!!

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29 Sep 2014 20:40:00
This guy is a joke, the final straw, he plays Moshni who is a nightmare this season and he doesn't start with Templeton, no change? I would have changed at 1-0.

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29 Sep 2014 20:38:21
what are we watching here, no pace and no clue. why are Smith and Peralta our two wide men when they can't go by anyone, we need a bit of pace down one side at least. The usual from McCoist standing arms folded not got a clue what to do. Surely even he must of seen that it wasn't working after 20-30 minutes and should have made at least one change and put on either Aird or Temps.

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29 Sep 2014 20:33:04
Like that's happening at the moment 0-3 half ttime.

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29 Sep 2014 20:55:36
Please walk now before we hate you ally! Totally incompetent! And how was peralta allowed into Ibrox ?
Please go now, we do t even know how to play a basic game, evry manager in the c/ship is at Ibrox sniggering, does he not realise their laughing at him ?

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Unfortunately just can't see it happening. Ally has been at the helm through some of the most embarrassing results in the clubs history and he has not had the dignity to stand down so it's unlikely this result will make any difference. Not sure what he will blame but sure as hell it will not be himself.

Says he's a supporter that wants the best for the club? If that was the case he'd have walked before now.

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29 Sep 2014 20:32:51
0-3 in 39 minutes at Ibrox. Enough is enough, please Ally walk away now. You are not up to the job.
I have said this before your loyalty will never be doubted and your ability as a player fantastic. But you are not a manager.

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29 Sep 2014 20:31:25
where do we go from here this is find us out time year

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Bigdimps if ally keeps this up we won't be going anywere

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29 Sep 2014 20:29:24
WTF? Is going on with this rangers team tonight not even half time and we're 3-0 down absolutely atrocious!!!

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29 Sep 2014 20:26:57
this has the makings of another debacle what will macoist say about this

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29 Sep 2014 20:24:27
Mccoist go now. inept management once again. Peralta in front of templeton. boyd waste of time and money. one up ftont st home. had enough. 2-0 down and out of ideas. Ally just go please.

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29 Sep 2014 18:56:21
Moshni and Black yet again in the starting XI tonight. Peralta also starts. I'd rather see Templeton and Hutton given a start and why is Zaliukas still on the bench? I take it Lewis McLeod is still injured? Only 3 points will do tonight, and a convincing win at that.

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29 Sep 2014 20:29:17
3-0 down now 825pm what a showing up will this be the final straw ?

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No chance of winning convincingly tonight or at all after that first half I'm absolutely disgusted

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29 Sep 2014 14:30:02
Jon Daly has admitted he is unable to train 2 days in a row due to injury problems.

Well jon i think it is time you do the admiral thing and retire with immediate affect.

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Why would we da that big wages fae guys that r shot that's the rangers way.

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29 Sep 2014 12:58:03
@ st Eddy I think its a fair point when people are saying that the majority of the hearts squad is made up of youth players ( and we should've went down same route) as it proves with a long season ahead they don't have much depth to the squad
r. f

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29 Sep 2014 13:50:01
Just double checked shock, horror only 3 of hearts starting 11 came through the ranks plus 2 subs not much of a difference then eh
r.f

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30 Sep 2014 10:41:44
My argument for the Petrofac game was that the team they put out was 'second string' though, not youth. They played a lot of younger payers last year when they had to get rid of much of their team in administration, but they are all pretty experienced now.

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29 Sep 2014 11:30:03
@ Paulineblue below I did not coin the phrase "the journey" it was brought about when we had to start in the bottom tier and I'm sure as afan u know it means getting back to the top division. will we win it when we get there who knows. will we be on sound financial footing who knows. but your comments prove one thing I said as Rangers fans we couldn't agree on the colour of ****
r. f

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29 Sep 2014 08:21:21
Portsmouth FC (fan owned) now officially debt free 2 years ahead of schedule.
Heart of Midlothian FC dealing with their financial situation with no excuses and giving young players decent coaching and experience whilst giving fans good football.
Both clubs have had to deal with less than scrupulous owners/boards but their supporters took a unified stance.
Still, at least we have the much sought after Moshni who'll make us a few quid when Real Madrid come knocking.
I despair

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29 Sep 2014 09:33:14
It's the in our nature to demand instant success & i believe that's why the coaching staff never threw the youngsters at it as god only knows what they would've got had they played youngsters & failed when u consider what they are getting now on the final step of the journey . as for the fan ownership who's fault is that OURS THE FANS BECAUSE AS PER USUAL WE COULDN'T AGREE ON THE COLOUR OF S#!? at least their fans stood together & did something .
r.f

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29 Sep 2014 09:48:10
There you go again r. f. with this "final step of the journey "cr#p. What are you on about? You think if we get promotion this year then that's it, magically back to winning trophies and a yearly ticket to the CL? Or maybe you mean we've only got one last step to go before we become a financially stable club with a good solid foundation on which to build long term success? If you think either of those things then please explain how either works. Otherwise please stop coming out with that gullible dross, it's embarassing.

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The journey:

Raise sufficient funds to get to end of season without Ally, and do something to get fans back.

If these things happen Rangers could double their player wage bill in their first year.

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