Rangers Banter Archive May 29 2015

 

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29 May 2015 21:17:23
If things had been different and we had focused on youth we would of had a great midfield McLeod and telfer with murdoch behind them and Walsh on the wing with McKay on the other Hardie and gallagher up frount a few good signings we would of had a young hungry team and if we had played them from the start we would of had a team with players that have played 50 to 100 games each no big wages and no has beens

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30 May 2015 00:11:27
Don't know how anyone can disagree with that. It's obvious youth was the way to go with some experienced players too. Ally chose to sign journeyman players with no sell on value. His incompetence has come to bite us on the backside big time this season.

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30 May 2015 07:42:34
I didn't press disagree Stewie G but to a degree I do, can I ask where Mcleod and Tefer are right now? Same place Murdock, Walsh and Hardie would be if they had been playing at the start of the season under a different board is my guess and i'm not convinced that they were properly cooked last season and not the season before and definitely not the season before that and where are the youths that did break through. i'm not convinced that a team of mediocre players will turn into world beaters or even SPL beaters just because they play together regularly.

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30 May 2015 07:50:41
The boys except from Macleod were like 16 when we went down. Hardie would've been like 14? Remember the best of our youth team jumped ship, j agree youth should've been played but you can't play a midfield of an average age of 16 there careers would've bee. Over by the time they were 21

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{Ed001's Note - why would their careers been over? South American countries tend to play their youngsters from the age of 16, their careers don't end early because of that. It is a misnomer. The biggest problem for players and the longevity of their career is the partying they do, when they should be resting to allow their body to recover. One of the things that Frank Lampard did, which turned his career around at a time when he was not known for goals, but for his antics, was going home after training and having a nap. Most young players want to show off their bling and go out on the lash, rather than resting and it has a major long term effect on their bodies, far more than the actual games do.}

30 May 2015 10:58:13
It would have been interesting to see how the team would have lined up had McCabe and Ness chose to stay. Both made mistakes in leaving and neither have fulfilled the potential they had. Both players could have been heroes and built up a great career at Rangers but both chose to desert.

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30 May 2015 13:51:07
Stevie get I did not mean just play youth with a couple of clever signings we would of walked the third and the second and then had an established team and would only need to sign a few to to make a difference

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29 May 2015 20:46:42
Rangers are a poor team, by any standards, but at 5-1 on Sunday, to get promotion, I'm having a bit of that.

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29 May 2015 21:56:46
Look fellow bluenoses, we have only one option on Sunday, play it tight for 20 minutes and then go for it. What do we have to lose? I would go for a 4-4-2 with Ferguson and Vuckic wide in the middle, probably with Boyd and Miller up front and any combination thereafter. I would go for experience to start and have the 'young team' on the bench.
An early goal and they will bottle it, as they probably cannot believe the position they are in.

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30 May 2015 00:12:46
I agree with starting Ferguson on the left however he won't last the whole game and I would have Templeton on the bench. He has been poor for us however he can still beat a man and has pace.

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30 May 2015 07:52:24
Bell
Foster zal mohsni? Wallace
Walsh Murdoch black Ferguson
Vuckic
Boyd

Temps Miller shiels/law can come off bench.

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29 May 2015 20:23:27
Put the boy hardie up front with Miller and drop Clark to the bench And put Walsh on the wing drop dean give the fast players a chance WATP

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29 May 2015 21:19:41
Wee Alex

Joker required for this one

Boyd & McCulloch up front

Miller & Clark in reserve on bench

Welsh & Ferguson down the wings

Motherwell have to be sliced up

It won't be nice - bloodly

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29 May 2015 18:27:21
Wallace was forward too many times, and Motherwell identified that weaknance, if Wallace is gonnae be that far forward, we should've played 3 5 2!!
McGregor Zal. Smith
Foster Murdoch Shiels Law Wallace
Miller Vukic
Thoughts???

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29 May 2015 19:10:58
Play whoever they want it's the championship next season . Mccall and another 12 or so will be signing on the broo on Monday. Absolute garbage needs a clear out.

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29 May 2015 19:53:29
thats a bit unfair with macall he has no tool to do the job and law wallace vulkik and miller are carrying knocks but I will agree its the champioship next year

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29 May 2015 21:44:24
Your right it is a bit unfair as I like Mccall but that lot will cost him his job if they don't do the business on Sunday.

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30 May 2015 07:58:21
I can't believe People are wanting McCall as manager next season, if we had promoted Durant to manager and he had gave us the same as McCall has we would be demanding he left at the end of the season. Tell us what McCall has done to get the job? Also tell us what McCalls record is in big games as manager , finals , semi finals, old firm games ,playoffs etc, its not good.look at his record in the playoffs with one game to play its played 5 won 2 drew 1 lost 2 is that not mediocre at best? So in my opinion that's exactly what we will get , a mediocre manager.

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30 May 2015 10:21:15
He only managed to finish 2nd in the spl a couple of times, with his own players, you are right though, it is woeful lol.

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30 May 2015 11:25:19
KeyserSoze, so did Ally! To be honest I'd completely forgot about McCalls second place finishes I was preoccupied by his third place finish this year and our woeful performance on Thursday. If he turns it round and we don't finish second tomorrow then maybe he can count that as an achievement as manager and I will give praise where its due.

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29 May 2015 13:29:50
i can't see how Rangers can get back into the tie for me it's over. Motherwell used the same tactics used by so many teams against us this season. Sit back and hit Rangers on the break with quick players. Have never known a Rangers team to be so easily picked off by average sides. I'm afraid McCall isn't the manager some people think he is and his record of clean sheets since taking over is dire. Even in the play offs we have only managed 1 out of 5. It's too easy for teams to rip us apart and for the 2nd worse team in the Premiership to do it with such ease is alarming.
We have too many average players and others who have never justified their wages. The team is in a mess just now and there are very few I would keep. Sad indictment on the team that our 2 best players were Murdoch and Walsh. Murdoch never once hid and always looked for the ball and Walsh look dangerous going forward.
I'm sure we can score goals in the away leg however that defence can't keep clean sheets and are too easily picked off. Let's just hope we can get a few better players in and have a manager who knows what he is doing

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29 May 2015 16:14:25
How can you blame McCall stewie.ffs give the guy a break.he plays the same team that beat a good hibs side.your not telling us anything we don't know.we all know 90% of our squad is not good enough.now is not the time to dissect performances and who has what ability.its time to support the team.through good times and bad.for me the tie is not dead.if we get the first goal then it's game on.

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29 May 2015 16:37:10
McCall is only a slight improvement on Ally. He has done nothing to curb the amount of goals the team concedes and keeps playing players like Foster, Clarke and Law. Playing against Rangers is easy sit in and attack on the break. We fall for that every time. Last night we were ripped apart by the 2nd worst team in the top league at home.

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29 May 2015 16:54:59
My question is - who else is there? McCall has nt had the luxury of a transfer window. Defensively we so not have world beaters who are out of form. We have average players who play well an average amount of the time. He has dropped mcculloch when apparent he was done. Moshni is a bombscare and can appreciate you would pick a less risky player for crucial games. We have shipped goals but I trust if McCall thought gasparotto was the answer right now he would pick him. Wallace looks injured but stevie smith hardly a defender any more to replace him. Defensively he has no choice but to pick from a poor bunch and try to make most of attack. Again, slim pickings as Boyd ineffective, Clark not a predator although tries hard, hardie and Walsh have had more of a go in three months than McCoist would have gven them in 5 years. We work with what we have

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29 May 2015 18:36:14
Fair play to Mcall his goal at the start of the season was to keep Motherwell in the SPL.

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30 May 2015 00:18:14
Streete has been fit for 3 or 4 weeks now but had never been picked, the right back has been fit for weeks and McCall has ignored him to. There are players there that could have come in but McCall has stuck with the guys who have continually let us down. Why not try Gasperatto too he is good in the air and has played for the Canadian national team. A 5 year old can see that continually playing poor defenders will cost goals and surprise surprise that's exactly what's happened. Motherwell looked like scoring every time they crossed the half way line and had it not been for a shocking miss at 3-0 it could have been worse

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29 May 2015 13:17:03
Few people backing mccoist on here surely he must take some blame for the state we r in he should have built us a young squad from the 3rd division to get us on a steady platform for this season instead he opted for terrible players on high wages he could have Saved us a lot of cash at the same time aswel fair enough the board didn't help but he built the team

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29 May 2015 17:18:34
It's done, no point harking on about it. Lots that should have been done, it didn't happen, we deal with it.

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29 May 2015 18:36:51
& to think he gets paid too December!!

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29 May 2015 18:46:29
To be fair to mccoist, he had a £100m war chest from green remember.

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29 May 2015 12:57:33
Alright team, look, last nights result was poor, we all know that, but if your looking at the whole situation, as a whole, if I was asked at the start of the season if it was down to beating Motherwell at home on the very last game of our season, to go up, we'd have all took it, it's 1-3 ok, but to score 2 goals to get a chance of going, isn't out our reach, am still confident about going up, 90 minutes left, Motherwell went to Ibrox for a draw, or to keep the score line down, the next thing they know, they're up 0-3 within 47 minutes, we've got 90 or even more, to get that result, we don't need to score early, as long as we score first, regardless of what time in the game it is, we've got a chance, people where talking about Scott McDonald and helicopter Sunday, well it's Sunday again this year, Scott McDonald will b playing, it's rangers again involved, and the last one went in our favour, so everything's pointing to rangers again, let's get the positive attitude going here lads, and keep the faith as big Andrews once said, it worked for big Andrews as well this year, he kept Montrose up, in similar circumstances, so c'mon on the Gers, give us all one last push!!

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29 May 2015 13:33:33
No Motherwell went with the game plan of sitting back and hitting Rangers on the break which they did with ease. This tactic has been employed successfully by so many teams this season. Expect them to do the same at home and get a similar result. We are rank rotten and can't play against teams with quick strikers

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29 May 2015 13:58:46
Yeah you would've had a point there lad if Motherwell played great, and their movement and class, and individual class players got their 3 goals, but that wasn't the case, we had them on the ropes, first attack, and due to a miss pass, and our slow defence, plus with an og, they find themselfs up 0-1, if u watched the game, ud a noticed that the 3 goals where down to individual errors, which should've and could've been avoided. but that's football, but we go again on Sunday, and I fancy rangers to get what they need to go up! WATP

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29 May 2015 15:42:18
where on the post did I say Motherwell played well? I said they sat in and hit us on the break? Are you telling me this didn't happen? I was at the game and watched them cut is open at will. If you couldn't see that then it's obvious you didn't watch the game. We have been getting ripped apart all season by average teams. If you can't see that then heaven help you. Your totally deluded

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29 May 2015 19:29:10
Yeah totally ripped apart, an og a free kick, and a pass from foster straight to Pearson, from Pearson straight to the boy that scored the third Hahahahahaha yeah ripped apart, you must've been behind one of them BIG metal posts!! Away and geez piece pal, 1-3 we got bet, fair and square, but don't come on here and say Motherwell ripped us apart, when we handed them their goals, and got lucky, we'll see come Sunday, how good they really r,,,,,,

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30 May 2015 00:22:01
You talk as if they had 3 chances the entire match. They missed some sitters and it could easily have been 4 or 5. I cannot understand how thick some people can be and not see what's in front of them. Strange how all of the pundits on the radio recognised this and many Rangers fans were dismayed about how easily we were opened up yet you can't see it. Think you should have a word with yourself and visit planet earth for a day

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29 May 2015 23:52:35
motherwell had a slice of luck when they scored first they had not been in the gams and could no put 2 passes together if miller had scored the result would have been different but after the goal their confidence grew the goalkeeper had the game of his life and won't play like that ever again we still had chances and how the keeper saved boyds header was luck and up to they scored there efending was woeful we just did not take the chances there is still a chance to to go through although its an outside one only time will tell

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30 May 2015 04:10:53
Rangers missed there fair share aswell and just never got anything on the day every 2nd ball from a shot fell to a Motherwell player, Motherwell are good team but rangers can get the result we need on Sunday

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29 May 2015 12:50:36
Would definitely start Walsh and Ferguson on Sunday. Both direct and have pace. Always looking to get us on the front foot. Sheils has done well since he came back into the side, but had a shocker last night unfortunately

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29 May 2015 13:10:19
Don't think it will make any difference who plays up front we have been poor all season at the back and ship goals in nearly every game. Defence has been poor all season yet McCall keeps picking the same players

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29 May 2015 20:27:30
McCall has to play the players he was given. Not his fault McCoist left him with a defense that would be best served in a Swiss cheese shop. If we stay down in the championship, get rid of the dead weight and high earners who are not actually earning what they are being paid, then maybe McCall can do a good rebuilding job for next year. let's face it we would be ripped to shreds in the premiership with this lot. Staying down may not be the worst thing to happen to us.

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29 May 2015 23:54:10
stewie who else can he pick are there players at ibrox we don't know about?

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30 May 2015 09:10:34
Streete and Mbau been fit for weeks, Gasperratto returned before the play offs. That's 3 defenders who could have played in place of the usual suspects. Could also throw the young lad Sinnamon into the mix as well. 4 players and it didn't take much thought

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30 May 2015 11:22:55
mbabu is rotten seriously anyone who watched the youngsters in the cup final can vouch for that streete looked mediocre at best in the 44 mins he managed for us this season. Why on earth would mccall gamble his future on unknowns?

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29 May 2015 12:38:56
Nicky Law and Nicky Clark are just not good enough and Wallace has lost all confidence to go past a player. Hope Boyd plays on sunday, amd I would take Mohsni every day of the week before Zaliuskas

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29 May 2015 13:18:39
Nicky Clarke isn't even good enough for the championship and Nicky Law hides in every game. I don't know why McCall persists in both or why he keeps picking Foster too. We have been very fortunate to even get this far but all its done is expose how poor we really are. Ripped to shreds by the 2nd worse team in the Premier League at home sad days

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29 May 2015 14:38:40
Lee Wallace runs all day but can't beat a man can't cross can't shoot can't tackle. Richie foster has been a far Vetter player recently

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29 May 2015 16:39:56
CeeXXX

Foster was woeful last night don't think I've seen someone aimlessly give the ball away as much as he did. He can't defend and his crossing was atrocious. Hopefully Sunday will be the last time we have to put up with his inability

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29 May 2015 10:22:35
I'm seeing quite a few posts about how last night it was down to ally and his managing of the team. well guys sorry to say but under ally we beat Motherwell twice. McCall was unlucky lastnight, but he didn't get those players ready to go.

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29 May 2015 10:40:30
They players have played a lot of games, you can't win every match.

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29 May 2015 11:29:48
How as McCall unlucky? We were rank rotten again

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29 May 2015 11:30:31
Which players are you referring to?

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29 May 2015 12:47:27
McCall seemed more concernd about Motherwell in the build up to the game saying he wasn't going celebrate this obviously translated to our players giving them 3 or 4 days off from training was a mistake to and we started with wrong tactics should try keep it tight and nick a goal or two then go at them at there own ground this was a 2 legged game not a final

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29 May 2015 09:58:39
Sadly we were not good enough last night, yes we had lots of the ball but we were too slow in moving it, we had lots of corners and crosses into the box however the quality of the crosses was very poor. Until Boyd came on we had no threat up front.

I believe this tie is still alive, I would go with 3 at the back and play Boyd up front with Miller to get more of a presence in the box at crosses and corners.

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29 May 2015 12:24:34
An optimistic post when all senses say it's done and dusted.
I agree we need changes and the same old, same old won't beat Motherwell by 3 goals on Sunday. Might as well go down with all guns blazing and 4 or 5 changes to the starting 11. Fresh legs and speed needed.

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29 May 2015 13:12:19
Kfraser

Who would you bring in?

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29 May 2015 14:02:14
@ Stewie G, Walsh for Sheils, Boyd for Clark, Ferguson for Wallace, Mohsni for McGregor and Black ( he's got to be a reasonable bet being rested )for a tired Law. A right back would be good too after last night.

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29 May 2015 09:11:55
MA won't turn up for EGM - gutless! - not sure he can swim?

Time for King to "walk the walk"

1) executive Structure

2) finance

3) manager

4) players

It will soon be too late for next season!!

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29 May 2015 09:42:00
Why are you trying to deflect blame sway from mccall and the players? Every post you have put up since last night has tried to blame the sfa , hibs , Ashley , Scottish football fans or the other clubs. You sound like the guy who has just been dumped by his bird but was going to finish with her anyway. If the spl is so bad why is last nights result obviously hurting you so badly? Last night your 2 best players were on loan from Newcastle so why are you threatening to throw Ashley in the Clyde?

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29 May 2015 10:34:47
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Sorry you missed the point.

Clearly it is the manager and indeed players on the night and maybe they were "unlucky" but the players have "unlikely" too many times this season.

But to be fair to MacCall he has only "just arrived" what with less than 20 games with an inherited squad.

The point is the foundations were already laid by the previous management & board.

Hearts went up in one go and Rangers had "3 years" to plan
and we are still waiting.

Newcastle loans good but "too little too late" most injured?

Lastly what league in the world has a club capable of getting a home gate of 50,000 fans but is not wanting that "money"
for the good of the game?

I know you are loving this Clearly you should consider redeveloping Parkhead to house smaller gates for these wee teams you like to beat as trebles remain dreams for you!

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29 May 2015 13:00:10
Ranger57 I know you and accuracy are never close at hand and cryptic might best describe some of your pearls of wisdom but when you say the league is not wanting that money are you saying just lob you into the SPL because you are Rangers, regardless of on field abilities etc? And further on that point surely that 50,000 you speak of is a bit of a rarity in that last night, at a princely fiver a head, was your first sell out in two seasons. Is the league really turning its nose up at 50,000? Want more stats poured on your nonsense?

Avg season league gates this year, Celtic 43,971 - Rangers 32,798, last season Celtic 47,079 - Rangers 42,938, even in Div 3, you know the really defiant year, beginning of the journey, cheap as chips to get in to the ground etc Celtic 46,917 - Rangers 45,750. The last season you beat us was the Mowbray year and for the record we have the small matter of having to pay for European games and require a passport for some games too you may just recall that necessity, we play an extra league home fixture and despite those additional expenses we still outsell you at home league games. Not for the first time today I'm suggesting you have a wee look at Rangers woes Ranger57 before you go mouthing off about stuff that under scrutiny does not show your club in the best of lights by comparison with anyone, be it Celtic, Falkirk or ICT.

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29 May 2015 13:14:39
King needs to start by doing 3 things

1. Showing McCall the door
2. Letting all out of contract players go
3. Tell Shiels, Law, Zaliukus, Bell and Crawford to find new clubs

The team is an utter shambles and the players are an embarrassment

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29 May 2015 13:14:46
Well said gaz , saved me a lot of typing. What are you suggesting ranger57? We just scrap all the rules and regulations? We just get the 10 teams with the highest average crowd's and scrap relegation and promotion? Like I said if the top league is so bad , why does it hurt you so much not being good enough to get there?

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29 May 2015 08:36:04
I know this probably won't happen but just putting what i'd play for Sunday's team just putting out a team with a massive ariel threat as we got a barrel load of corners and got the ball into box a lot
Bell
Streete Zaliukas Mohsni
Walsh Murdoch Law/Shiels Ferguson
Vukcic
Boyd Miller
Subs: Robinson, Mcculloch, Templeton, Mckay, Law/Shiels, Daly, Smith

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29 May 2015 08:47:45
Would like to see Streete in side again and whilst many fans don't like Mohshi he is a fighter and has spirit to score goals!

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29 May 2015 09:31:00
Yeah sure he sometimes does the odd dodgy thing but he challenges for everything in the box and gives his all as for me picking streete the lads out of contract in the summer this is his chance to get a club call it a trial for him if you will and no doubt he will play out his skin to impress

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29 May 2015 08:25:29
Sure - it's halftime but we are dead and buried - score other way round and we already be "celebrating"!

We were "unlucky" with goals but we have been "unlucky" too many times this season.

It's not luck - the bunch of players don't deserve 50,000 fans watching them - neither does Scottish Football.

Top division not much to aspire to?

Show case cup final Inverness v Falkirk enough said.

Doubt if MA will have the courage to visit Glasgow for EGM not sure if he can swim?

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29 May 2015 09:03:50
Ranger57 myself and other Celtic folk in here are endlessly told concentrate on your own team etc so why the dig at ICT and Falkirk after that abject performance last night? Both those teams overachieve on a regular and consistent basis. When could you last say that about Rangers? The arrogance of you after this season of all seasons, after abysmal cup performance after abysmal cup performance frankly beggars belief. More so because as of right now I'm sure you would give your eye teeth to be in the "showcase cup final". So I recommend that you maybe stop ridiculing the rest of Scottish football while your own club is by far the most ridiculously underachieving team in it.

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29 May 2015 09:08:26
Have to agree with op to certain extent. But we are where we are. This bunch of players hopefully will not be around for long but they are the only ones who can get us through Sunday.
Must admit am not looking forward to us going at Mwell & them sitting in & hitting us on the break like last night. For me it just showed the huge gap in quality and we were slow slow slow in all areas. With McGregor out I despair that Mcculloch will be brought in & with the speed Mwell showed from their midfield and wingers (wonder why it didn't show up in Premier League??) it could be very embarrassing.

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29 May 2015 10:18:44
Sorry but McGregor is just as culpable as any of the defenders for the amount of goals shipped this season. McCall has done nothing to stop us conceding goals and during his reign we have shipped goals in nearly every game. All he has done is juggle about the same defenders and we keep shipping goals. We are a sucker for teams to hit us on the break. Motherwell will employ the same tactics for Sunday and will have the same success. We need to chase the game and they like just about every team in the division will pick us off.

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29 May 2015 10:42:05
This is exactly why other teams want to see the back of you, it and Falkirk qualified for the cup final on merit, now the standard of these teams might not be Barcelona or Real Madrid ,it might not even be better than Sheffield Utd but it is done honestly and within their means, if you would concentrate more on those who really did your club harm and continue to do so you might have a better future as a club and fans. By respecting the other clubs ,the game and the sport you might start to win some friends and be welcomed back, football isn't ,no matter what sky,king,Lowell, Reagan ,Doncaster might want you to believe, just about money ,if it was you would be dead and buried long time ago,show a bit of respect to the game

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29 May 2015 07:38:45
Morning bears

Hate to use that old cliche "it's only halftime in the tie " but I do believe it is far from over I felt that after the goal at the beginning of the 2nd half rangers began to gel and after the introduction of the young Walsh and Boyd you could sense we could score the young lad Walsh had more will to get to the byline and put in good crosses and with Boyd being a precence in the box I felt it was bad luck with the offside goal and with his bullet header perhaps on another day or with match sharpness he would have done better then came the introduction of Shane Ferguson now I know he's one of Ashley's puppets but he did more in 30 mins than lee Wallace all game bags of pace and he looked hungry ( probably to prove he's not a dud ) and I really felt we were going perhaps draw alas not but mcgregors goal gives us something and if we go all guns blazing on Sunday from ko I believe Motherwell will be overwhelmed and we can get the early goal to make it interesting .

Come on troops we have to stick together and with the team just one more time WE CAN DO IT

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29 May 2015 07:55:30
Did you watch the game It was pretty evident that Motherwell are a step up in class by a country mile . 3rd place in the championship is over achievement for the 2nd highest wage bill in the country .

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29 May 2015 10:24:59
Exactly the 2nd worse team in the top league ripped us apart at will last night. We have been found out big time this season and you can forget about going up. Motherwell will set up the same as last night and pick us off. We have been woeful at the back all season and I can't remember a Rangers team that has been picked off so easily by so many average teams. The defence has been appalling yet McCall keeps picking the same players

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29 May 2015 07:12:22
The fans 50,000 turn up to support Rangers last night & only a couple knew what that meant - Miller & Boyd!

Team & management owe fans a performance on Sunday!

First to admit McCulloch past it in defence but he can be used as a battering ram up front - it is not going to be pretty on Sunday - suggest "women & children" shouldn't be there!

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29 May 2015 08:17:45
There won't be a lot of us there to see "battering ram" and the noise will be coming from the Motherwell end i'm afraid ie Drum going full pelt. Hey ho our ticket allocation to others coming, back to bite us big time.

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29 May 2015 08:33:57
I'm not intrested in watching batterin rams mate, playing with that "style"for 2 years is part of the reason we're in this state.I suggest McCulloch shouldn't be there!

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29 May 2015 03:16:57
We see the difference between SPL and Championship (Celtic and Motherwell now) the team has a way to go and McColl is doing the best he can with the tools available. The journey is not over yet but it does look bumpy and maybe promotion is not going to happen. (Could yet be another thrilling chapter). It's been painful and pleasurable at the same time. Never forget, at one time it was not even certain that the club would still exist after the chaos of Murray, Whyte and Green.

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29 May 2015 07:27:16
Sure

But we are only on a "life support machine" thanks to mis manangement of Scottish Football

Rangers was a "Great club" - Motherwell still celebrating first win at Ibrox in 18 years!

The longer we are kept down the "less great" we will be become and certainly will further downsize when "support machine" switched off!

God help us!

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29 May 2015 08:22:20
Sorry coughing after reading your bit about the mis management of Scottish Football? our own troubles came from people we put in the "big house" not who was in power at SFA etc. Our own chosen ones ruined ,tarnished and besmirched our "Great Club" oh yes and HRM tax officers. GOD HELP US.

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29 May 2015 09:10:57
Be warned ALLY, facts and common sense in a Ranger57 opening thread are rare if not downright invisible.

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29 May 2015 16:02:27
Gaz I

Agree with your last post

You Celtic folk enjoy!

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29 May 2015 21:01:34
I meant to say to you Ranger57, fair play to you for your Tommy Burns comments. :)

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29 May 2015 00:31:52
All the people saying one more year in the championship is a good thing must ask themselves "who will want to sign for us?" Because premier league quality players (spl obviously) will not want to sign for us unless big terms are offered and the vicious circle of crap players in big money just starts again.
However I have a feeling after tonight that the spl ship has already sailed.

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29 May 2015 00:10:25
we made a lot more chances tonight than motherwell, few good saves by the well keeper was the difference. Their goals came from nothing, we were unlucky tonight and if we take our chances on sunday we have a good chance of winning.

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29 May 2015 07:21:14
Problem is we have been "unlucky" too many times this season - quality of team do not merit 50,000 home gate that's the problem for us and Scottish Football?

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29 May 2015 00:25:11
All I can add to what has been said is that we have finally been found out. We only got through vs hibs through good fortune (ie Cummings open goal in the first leg, mcculloch flukey goal line block in the second) and that playing negatively as McCall has had us playing is simply a pre-historic brand of football. However, as has already been mentioned, one of the main reasons for us playing this way is the players we have and that blame must lie solely with ally.
One more thing, tonight's worst player for me was lee Wallace and that's something I've never before thought but perhaps tells its own story.

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29 May 2015 00:49:58
i have mentioned this about Wallace before there is no end product with him all he does is run all game anyone can to that in a game if they are fit enough crossing is terrible would be interesting to no how many assists he got for the season if any same goes for Forster
and there defending is terrible caught up park to many times leaving us with 2 at the back don't have to be genesis to work out that a team playing with 2 strikers and wingers is gona rip that defence apart and that is what happened tonight

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