Rangers Banter Archive July 29 2012
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29 Jul 2012 22:03:48
Rangers are close to completing deals for Dean Shiels and Greek midfielder Pantelis Kafes as they press on with their rebuilding programme.
Killie were hoping to persuade the 27-year-old to pen a new deal with them, but he appears to be on his way to Ibrox.
Shiels could form part of their promotion push, with McCoist admitting that a deal to bring him to Glasgow is almost done.
The Gers, who will be free to register new players from Friday, are also hoping to wrap up a deal for Greece international Kafes before the end of the week.
McCoist said: "It's not over the line yet but I know in both cases there is certainly a deal to be done there.
"I've spoken to both players. They seem keen and we are very keen too so we'd be hopeful something could be done."
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I hate when ally uses that phrase, its not over the line yet, many times did he use it last year? And many times did the player he was talking about sign?
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29 Jul 2012 21:24:22
c aw the fans slatin the team get a grip weve had 2 closed door games the whole pre season so nun of them are match fit thats plain ta c but gee them a couple of games n they will be. a thought the young boy mckay played well he showed sum nice touches n has a fair bitta pace black looked good a dnt like that broadfoot never have but he dun awrite the day. anyway onwards and upwards
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Hi bears, everybody knows Kirky boy isn't the best right back ,but he does get up and down that wing taking people on. I myself would play Darren Cole at right back and play Broadfoot on the wing for Division 3 if Ally doesn't bring anybody else in to cover these 2 positions.
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Spot on son, spot on.
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29 Jul 2012 21:15:41
Quite disturbed by Mr Green's comments on BBC sport page.'some of it driven by bigotry,some of it by jealousy and some of it driven by the wrong motives'.How inflamitory is that?Very surprised as he has appeared measured.Will any action be taken against him?Why leave himself open to any by saying silly things.I liked him from the start but he did himself no favours today.
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It's hardly silly and in the context of what he was saying is quite blatantly true
The question was put to the fans, the likelihood being that quite a few of those fans voted the way they did simply because of bigotted views, not guessing what percentage because I don't know but certainly "some" of them did
pedantic maybe but still correct
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There can be no denying that there are certain elements of other clubs supporters are driven by bigotry,one club chairman has even suggested that he voted rangers out of the spl because of emails and letters from certain other clubs fans and not the views of his own fans. of all the points made by charles green its no shock that the scottish media focus on this.
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Any other CEO and McCoist as manager would be charged by the SFA of bringing the game into disrepute.
Why isn't it happening?
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RUBBISH Time we stod up for OURSELFS!well said Charles Green.
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So are you saying it is bigoted to hate rangers? get a dictionary
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Yes Aberdeen fans,Hearts,St Johnston,I.C.Thistle etc etc etc-----yeh,all bigots.Think not.What a stupid comment.Why did he make it---yes,prob.wants to be 'victimised' and then able to walk away.He's only been here a matter of months but the propaganda machine at Ibrox has got to him.Let him listen to the singing and he'll know what 'bigotry' really is.
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29 Jul 2012 21:09:30
{Ed053's Note - New player profile on Ian Black now on http://player-profiles.co.uk
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29 Jul 2012 21:08:12
I can't believe how many sad people come on here to get there bit into a supposedly dead football team. Your pain only makes us stronger. WATP
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Your pain makes us laugh
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29 Jul 2012 20:50:35
Rusty the tim here!!not saying much but like the reading on the pages,just a few points tonight about the whole saga.1st point-as a Celtic fan spl will miss rangers but they've made the decision so need to move on.think rangers will get thru d3 no probs but need to sign a few players a.s.a.p b4 transfer embargo or they'll struggle to get out d2 that year.as for the history debate,history will always be history.you can't ever take it away or change it. You will always see that rangers won titles,but with all the rules etc with liquadation,yes same team,ground,supporters etc the business structure is different now.sevco are the new rangers and any titles won will be in the history books as sevco (or what ever name they use).rangers fans will say nothing has changed and add titles to oldco and other fans will say no,if a neutral was to look up the history books they would see 1 company has ended and another company has began.(all depends on which side of the fence you sit on.. Hail hail rusty the tim
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First sensible post I've ever read from you rusty. Actually first one I could make sense of
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No crusty , the next cup will be the first one for servico ,wont matter where on the fence you sit , thats the reality of the situation,fab1
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Rusty history isn't a matter of opinion between fans. The various governing bodies, insolvency law and numerous rules and regulations conclusively show Rangers history ceases with liquidation and the new football club's history starts in 2012, the year of founding of Charles Green's new club.
Anyone suggesting that it's a company being liquidated and not the football club is wrong and deceitful. Both the club and the company are one and the same.
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29 Jul 2012 20:43:36
I think Charles Green's comments were weel over the top. "Bigotry" - he has the cheek to accuse the SFA, SPL and SFL as Bigots? Is the man a fool? Does he want to drive the new Rangers into administration by his actions and ill-informed comments. This is all deliberate so that he can use the authorities that administer and run the game as scape goats as he drags the newco into admin, liquidation and strips the assets. He is throwing petrol onto the fire to cause controversy and create a smoke screen to hide behind. How dare he accuse people of bigotry, what experience does this Yorkshire man have of Bigotry? How many SPL games or SFL games has he attended? Nothing but a charlatan, Rangers beware of false prophets.
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Why does he need to have experience with bigotry to say what he did? The fact you even asked that question indicates you don't even have a clue what the word means!
TTG
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Away and stop talking nonsense! It was a welcome change to have somebody at the club saying in public what the support have all been thinking!...and since when did words cause administration? I loved seeing somebody actually stand up for the club! A few home truths that probably won't go down well with the hordes but why should we care what they think?
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My thoughts entirely. Accusations of boigotry is a serious matter. If he doesn't have evidence to support this, how can he be deemed a fit and proper person to run a football club?
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Martin Bain would never have made such comments. The SFA would have roasted him.
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Accusations of bigotry. We all know scottish football is full of bigotry. Away and bury your head in the sand again. your just mad because he's part of rangers.
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29 Jul 2012 20:37:33
Hi all
Anyone know if I could buy a season ticket and whats availability/price ? Looking for best seat poss so any suggestions ? Never had season before . THANKS
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ED will you post my post plz as i never see them on here, green wants nearly 600 notes for a bar 72 ticket i think they can jog on with what i saw the day.
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Your better going on official website rather than on here
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Official website is pants, try and find a price on the site. nothing. what is so difficult for us, just tell us what the tickets cost. nothing (or nout, as CG would say) no information at all. The club is being run like a pound shop, but at least at a pound shop you know the price!
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Roughly about £281 if you renew! Slightly higher if this is your first.... around £300. You can pay this over monthly installments. Welcome to Ibrox!
WATP
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29 Jul 2012 20:15:24
black best player on field today
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Couldn't be hard the game was dross, its going be hard to watch rangers games in the winter months.
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29 Jul 2012 20:07:08
Evryone stop giving broadfoot stick. at least he turns out and played for the true blues. on u go rangers good result today and bring on the new season watp. good positive performance from young billy mckay well played young man
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Barrie McKay
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29 Jul 2012 20:06:03
Give big Kirky a break, The guy is still no getting played in his natural position, play him centre half an he'll be quality. Goian gtf mate, your hearts not in it.
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Goian dosent want to be there he was rank rotten today as for clubfoot lost for words hes never rangers class
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Broadfoot will cost us goals no matter where he plays or in whatever league he is a joke of a footballer, only the reason he is there is because nobody wants him.
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Craig Beattie, Kevin Kyle, Ian Black, Dean Shiels, Gary Kenneth....are they any more 'Rangers Class' than Broadfoot?
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29 Jul 2012 20:00:57
Green still criticising SPL etc and naming bigotry amongst other things for Rangers' rejection.
Thinking back, though, wasn't the turning point when HE refused to accept sanctions? Yes, we could argue he had a legal case in point but then again if we're following rules to the letter his company shouldn't even be playing Scottish football (yet, at least). There was always going to be a fudge.
Looking back, then, if Green would have accepted the sanctions, would Rangers have been accepted ino SPL?
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He seems to be making this up as he goes along. The bigotry thing is nonsense. Yes, he should have worked with the SPL from the start - he was always outnumbered 11-1 so should have sued for peace.
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You might like to take a look at the actual rules and not an interpretation of them from your fellow tims. Maybe then, you won't fell so hard done by and oh, BTW, you know for a fact then that bigotry wasn't involved in the SPL's decision, do you?
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29 Jul 2012 19:41:44
Ok todays game , we have to accept that we havent had any strong friendlys and hardly the best pre season, but we played against an organised side who i think most spl clubs wouldnt of humped, so we done alright for first game thought the young boys done well also black has been injured for a while so will get better even though i thought he looked alright and glad he came to us but i thought broadfoot and goian were absolutely horrific, so chins up fellow bears and lets get behind our team. another thing that was fantastic was seeing ally smile again, fair play ally rangers legend.
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He wasn't smiling for a good hour today did you see the relief at the end lol
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We did well against a team from a higher league. Signs are that we will be in the shake up for promotion providing the bigger clubs dont come and spirit our better players away !
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29 Jul 2012 19:02:21
Some issues still to be resolved, the license granted only on a temporary basis and Charles Green accuses folk of bigotry. Masters of diplomacy, as ever.
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29 Jul 2012 19:37:26
True Rangers supporters should be on this site not slagging the team but giving thanks that we actually have a team to support. This game was not a great spectacle , but having had no preseason what could you expect. Get a grip everybody and try and encourage, the team will get better as they get more match practice.
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Well said that man! Too many Idiots that are quick to criticise "support" our team!
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29 Jul 2012 19:31:13
First step on the way back to the top, A win over an established, team from a league above us, Just shows all those doubters, that we will be back at the top tier and maybe even in my lifetim
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Are you taking the pee? a team a league above us? my, my. a win over a team a league above us?? are my fellow bears so easily gubbed. Green is doing a Whyte. Part with YOUR money not mine. This is a team heading for Admin, and Green selling off our assets and history. Finito. Fertig. End of.
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29 Jul 2012 19:26:41
Charles Green accusing others of bigotry! A Rangers chairman, accusing others of bigotry! A bit like Jack The Ripper accusing others of excessive violence!
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When has charles green shown any signs of being a bigot?..mark.
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Brilliant, you realize by your post OP that it's you that's been revealed as a bigot?
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29 Jul 2012 19:22:07
Watched the game today , no disrespect but does anybody think broadfoot didn't look out of place in div 3 ?
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Don't know it was a cup game and Brechin are second div team you muppet honestly always fast to put someone down. At least make sure that what your typing is accurate.
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He looked out of his depth!
TTG
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29 Jul 2012 19:03:50
I know it was our first competitive game of the season but I have to say that was a stinking performance today. Only a couple of players get pass marks. Thumping long balls up field the whole game was diabolical to watch, really poor tactics. Hutton definitely hasn't got it, will be really glad if we get Shiels in as at least he's got a bit of skill and technique about him and is an attacking player. Thought Goian and Wallace were shocking today, I see big Clubfoot is getting pelters on here today but I thought Wallace's performance was far worse. Black looked half fit but will get better especially with better players around him. Little was woeful, fair enough he scored a goal but did he touch the ball after that? Hopefully we'll get Beattie in. Young guys we had playing looked lost, the game really passed them by with all the long balls we were playing. I really hope once we get 2 or 3 players in we start to pass and keep the ball on the deck. I hope Ally's tactics change once he gets the players in that he's after. Big improvements are needed.
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Nice to see someone supporting their team - not. Give them a break it was the first game of the season
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Lee Wallace was the best player on the park today i thought?
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Wallace was man of the match,Hutton broke play and passed the ball well,Macleod had a good game,broadfoot??Cole might be a better option at R.B.
This was our first competitive match so lets get behind the team
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Well arent you a delight. Rome wasnt built in a day mate. Cut them some slack. A wins a win.
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Its not easy playing against higher league opposition
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Wouldnt read to much into performance mate players that have not played in ages..players that have left ,players that dont want to be their ,new signings ,young players going to take a while to sort out this mess
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Remember they have only had a couple of games, normally by this time they would have had 6-8 games.
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If murry park is sending out young players that can hardly cope with a 2nd div team i think the coaches at murry park should be sacked and little being back is no help to us, deguzman.
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For f*ck sake, the team doesn't need fans like you. We had four young guys who have played a handful of games between them start. McKay is 17 n McLeod was 18 last month. We had another two youngsters come on as subs to make their debut Naismith (20) and Crawford (19). Kyle Hutton is only 21. We can't expect to throw all these boys on together n stroll over teams. I thought the youngsters played well and they will improve with games. It's a start n it will get better. why don't you go watch Motherwell or someone else.
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@9. Been a Rangers supporter for 30+ years and a season ticket holder for the last 25. Been to almost every game home and away in that period at home and in Europe. Spent untold thousands supporting Rangers and been more of a supporter than you will ever be so i'm entitled to my opinion. That was pish to watch yesterday end of. Once you've pumped as much money into the club as I have then i'll maybe listen to your opinion.
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@10. Fair enough you've spent a lot of of cash. You can't expect us to steamroller over the top of these teams. We haven't played a game since may and have lost a whole team of our main players. It's gony take time. So I'm afraid it doesn't matter how much cash uv spent following rangers, these boys aren't gony cum out n b playin the way we have played over the last 3-4 seasons. If u r expectin tht, ur heads up ur a*se
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29 Jul 2012 18:25:18
Well that was a bit s**te ...Green talks a load of Pish .Anything to try and stir up support and buy tickets .We are fecking doomed .Administration by the end of the year
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We will be if we dont all get behind the club we all support, time to put up or shut bears. the season is about to begin, we are starting to get players in so lets all renew our season tickets and give cg some support. he's not done anything wrong thus far and i think he deserves the benifit of the doubt. i think his plan isnt to asset strip, but get us to spl asap and then sell for a tidy profit as he will be selling a club ready to compete for europe
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Green brought the game into disrepute today, really disappointed with his attitude, Lennonesque to be honest but I guess he thinks it's the best way to drum up season ticket sales.
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We are where we are mate. You sound like someone who would claim Man city as their 2nd team, eh sunbeam.
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Green wants nearly 600 pound for bar 72 season ticket are you having a laff after watching that the day jog on. and ED what are they doing at murry park if the young 1s find it hard to play against div2 teams what chance we got , you would hope murry park would be sending out players that could cope with at least the spl nightmare . and where are the 5 stars on the gers top??????? big baz
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The five stars aren't above the crest on the home shirt so it looks like the 72 top
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If you don't like the ticket prices for bar 72 don't buy them. There will be loads of people willing to buy them.
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29 Jul 2012 18:44:55
Well said Charles Green,fighting our corner,thats what i want from my clubs CEO.I Hope he keeps up his defence of the club,he will do for me,he seems to be a man who wont get ragdolled and bullied,good show Mr Green.
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Sorry but green has been well and truly rag dolled by spl and sfa don't think his speech was anything other than a bitter loser that thought everyone would welcome a new rangers into top flight. He is just angry he has had to cave in at every step so far.
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Charles its a bit Naff putting up your own posts.
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Think ally will be saying to him tonight "SHOW ME THE MONEY!" big baz
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29 Jul 2012 18:43:08
Okay so it wasn't the greatest performance today however I thought the three youngsters done well for spells of the game and they should have something to offer over the course of a season.
Black will be fine, a few games under his belt and he'll stroll through games.
I'm still not comfortable with mcCulloch up top as I feel we'll start playing high balls to him and a bit of me hopes we don't sign Kyle for the same reason.
Let's see what position we're in next month before we jump on the band wagon!
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After that poor display, wonder how many hector fans will lay out for a season ticket.... not many I think.
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Are we watching the same game gers were really poor the day if murry park was any good we should have had at least 5 the day. mind our back 4 are prob worth more than that full team put together the day , btw i am a fan but you cant same they done well lucky extra time win, berti
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I know and I agree with you, however my point is lets see where we are after a month.
That was as good as a pre-season friendly and how many times have we seen poor performances from those?
We just need a few more games under our belt and we'll come out stronger.
By the time the kids have 10 games under their belt their confidence will start to grow.
Also if you put Shields in there (hopefully but unlikely Beatie) and another 2/3 the team would still give a few SPL clubs a going over.
As I said, lets see where we are in a month.
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29 Jul 2012 18:24:31
Wallace was best player on the pitch and broadfoot was terrible, even Brechin had better players than him. Think ally should get him off the pay roll and get someone who night know what they are doing.
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Trfc,2012,p1w1,l0. Good start.
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Its hard to take how bad we are just hope we get better, big baz
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Listen guys broadfoot might not be the greatest but he has stuck by the club not like the other superstars that left.
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29 Jul 2012 18:20:36
Broadfoot and Goian were absolutely shocking. Didn't look as though they had a clue what they were doing. Since Goian wants to leave i think he didn't really give a toss anyway.
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Broadfoot did not look out of place in the ramsdens cup , think that's his level?
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Totally agree mate broadfoot is bad even at that level and ive got to admit ive thought goian has always not lived up to his supposedly good name and always has a mistake in him . on the plus thought the young noys done really well.
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29 Jul 2012 18:11:09
after watching the game i have not changed my mind broadfoot is p**h
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Totally agree broadfoot is p@sh, there must be a young player coming through the acadamy better than him. This is suppost to be a new start. While i'm on the subject goian, get him 2 f**k aswell! W.A.T.P billy the bear...
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A couple of years ago he was meant to be the future. What has happened?
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29 Jul 2012 17:59:45
Rankers scratch an extra time (102 mins) goal to get into next game of Ramsdens Cup.
Edge of seat exciting stuff. Hard luck to Brechin.
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I hear what your saying,but was it any worse than the dross games you got from the lower end of the SPL !
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Utter garbage......Ally should resign. The resources he has and delivering this. When teams are relegated from div3 where do they go?
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Well done Rangers!! Brechin gave you a great welcome I am sure and the atmosphere in the city was great, you shall bring excitement to all the Div 3 clubs for the season you are there!! Great day for both clubs!
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My gers were pants today big pile of pants look forward to watching this for the next 3 years not with the money spent at murry park the youth players should be walking over the top of a team like that the day , what have the scouts being doing or brining to murry park they should be shoen the door. not a happy ger!
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If any of our support or management think that was a decent game/result today then we are in for a very long season. On a day when everyone would /should have been plalying out their skins we ended up with a complete an utter lot of crap. Our players were made to look mediocre and if this whats going to be the bench mark for the rest of the season? then not a lot of people will be attending? we should have been at the top of our game today, showing the media and rest of doubters that we are in wrong league of Scottsish Football ? instead we were made to look exactly the team we are 3rd division. I am not going to any more away games (had it already) sorry. As for Mcoist you were crap last year ,, and this you are already showing that your worse, time to go ALLY .
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29 Jul 2012 17:38:06
when the gers go up to lift the ramsden cup we,l be there doug t.s.o
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Dear me how the mighty fall.
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Brechin gave us a harder game than what inter gave to celtic ,with us its like heat ,it rises upwards ,gie the drink a miss tonight stranger cos were back doug t.s.o ( see ive got a name ,what have you got
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Dont know where you get the fall part from,a team in the 3rd div beats a 2nd div team? no fall there,but thanks for admitting
that we are the mighty,cheers.
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29 Jul 2012 17:24:57
NewCo....same old songs. Do you people ever actualy sing about football or the team ? {Ed039's Note - Same football team, same fans, can you tell me what a lot of the songs sung in Scottish fans have to do wi football?)
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Yes agree mate , I thought this was the perfect time to rid all this bigoted venom out of rangers , there was only 4000 odd fans there , what will it be like in bigger grounds, did you notice the 3 cops behind the goal filming gers fans ? These fans are going to punish rangers once again , please go and join bomber browns crew
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Obviously a celtic fan
one of the best fans in the world.....
or are they after the turn out against inter
dear oh dear
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29 Jul 2012 17:16:15
Anyone else getting fed up with that t@t rob mclean and the rest off the bbc muppets referring to us as "new" rangers?.. W.A.T.P... Billy the bear...
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Telling it as it is.Everyone knows it's a new club but you just do not accept it.
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What part of Newco dont you undrstand exactly .....?
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Well you are new. The old Rangers are in the process of liquidation or has that been stopped ?
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@1 it's new corporate identitity , still same football club dont let bitterness get in the way of you thinking though .
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But it is not a new 'club'. merely a new co. running the club. Do you Rangers haters never get tired of repeating the same old diatribe, again and again and again!? Doesn't matter how often you repeat a lie, doesn't make it true! Maybe you should concentrate on your own club?
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New owners same old rangers!
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It's a new company,same football club.
Get over it Timothy. Watch your tears don't douse the candle you had lit for our demise.
P.O.B.
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FIFA, UEFA, SFA, SPL and SFL don't acknowledge it as the old club. It's a brand new club with one game of history.
Charles green is the first ever CEO of this club. It is unseeded. It scraped into third div with no accounts. The old liquidated club shamefully didn't do accounts for 2 years.
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29 Jul 2012 17:47:08
A good result for Gers and fair play to Brechin. Team looked a bit shakey but did well overall, not impressed with broadfoot though. He seemed to give the ball away with every touch and looked lost, but i give him credit for staying with us. WATP
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Pity he signed over
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Thought black was a bit sloppy hope he ain't going to be our corner and free kick taker thought goiania was slow and uninterested. It was clear we lacked match fitness but got there in the end. Hopefully we will get some more players in over the coming weeks. A wins a win so onwards and upwards well done boys keep up the good work
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@2 eh....did Brechin have match fitness?
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I thought black has a lot of potential and didnt do too bad at all ,he,l improve with our training methods compared to hearts doug t.s.o
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Craig Beattie ment to be signing mate. He goes to my boxing club n apparently told the coach. Would count on it but.
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@3 yes because theyve been allowed to play friendlies.
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Briggs quiet away worry about your own mob. Oh and yes they had more than rangers they have played 3 or 4 pre season matches.
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Give broadfoot credit for staying he had no option who the bloody hell would buy him.and black has potential for goodness sake he,s 27 and was a big player for hearts he should be able to stroll through games in div 3.
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To 3.). Brechin at least has played exhibition games and has had no signing sanctions.
They beat ICT last week!
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29 Jul 2012 16:56:02
Goian doesn't,t want to play in 3 division he even looks out of sort in this league.. Got as. U h pace as a zimmer. {Ed039's Note - He was stinking today)
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29 Jul 2012 16:55:35
Well played Sevco. You didn't look out of of your depth at this level although Broadfoot still struggles against quality opposition. Managed to contain Brechin for most of the game.
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Thank you to the fan of The Celtic Football Club PLC for your thoughts. Yep, Broadfoot was dire (he wasn't alone either) but he stuck around when plenty others up and left and was still playing out of his natural position today. I will cheer him on anyway, no matter how bad he is, as I support the players win, lose or draw. Good luck against Helsinki (part timers aren't they?) in midweek. Hope you manage to contain them half as well as we contained Brechin in your first competitive match of the season. You will have no excuses if you don't since you have had a full pre-season, can list more than four subs for the match, and have played some decent teams to prepare. Hope there aren't any boos if, like today, things don't go quite as smoothly as predicted!
Brian
p.s. I think I have finally worked out your name - is it sh_t mail by any chance?
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29 Jul 2012 16:52:44
Mcoist must go
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Why only one game in and we won. You should take a good hard look at yourself. We have had no pre season matches it was always going to be a tough game. And if your not a rangers fan then who cares what you think.
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29 Jul 2012 16:46:40
embarassed for the whole sorry show....still playin big hi punts...very sad indeed...deecee
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29 Jul 2012 16:12:57
Not a rumour but reality!!
The Rangers FC are struggling against Brechin!
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To be fair, Brechin are a league above Rangers, so was a bit of a cup upset..... ;)
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29 Jul 2012 16:06:44
hear is a thought for everyone why doesnt green go out there and try and persuade young players to join us and pay there transfer fee this is way forward not 30 year olds show us ure money and get talent at the club
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Spot on , build the team over the next 3 seasons with youngsters maybe take longer to get out leagues
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29 Jul 2012 17:07:53
Broadfoot is still hopeless.
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29 Jul 2012 17:07:12
Well nothing ever changes.Nice songs
being sung at Brechin today. Tut Tut
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Never heard any banned songs.
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Please name the songs and what you find offending about them ?
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Never mind the singing ,wait till we do the dancing doug t.s.o
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Nice to here the singing of our national anthem in this year of the queens Jubilee! God bless her!
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29 Jul 2012 17:05:46
Watching the game as a neutral. You must be glad not to be in the Spl as on todays evidence there would be a real danger of relegation.... Infact i think they will struggle for promotion from div 3. Very poor team
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Get a grip you muppet it's one game away bury your head you blow hard honestly
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What do you expect, most of the first team regulars have left, only had 2 days to sign any new players to replace them, not allowed any compeditive warm up games and only had the go ahed for this game 2 days ago, well done Rangers!
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As a 'neutral' you wouldn't come on and slate a team which has lost most of it's playing staff and has had no exhibition games.
Muppet!
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Rubbish. That team would waltz second in the spl. It's utter Barry white in case you havenae noticed. Can't wait til we draw whatever dump you support in the cup this year and wipe the floor with you.
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29 Jul 2012 15:51:38
Broadfoot still looks hopeless even at this current level.
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29 Jul 2012 15:23:31
Just a wee idea. Why dont Rangers auction off the firts football strip of the new era of RFC. I am sure the money raised could go to cancer charity annd ao
me to RFF. Just a wee idea.
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How can they do that been selling them since may ya muppet...mark.
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29 Jul 2012 15:20:03
im confused, are boca and goian staying or what. both in the starting XI 2day.
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29 Jul 2012 15:10:18
Looks like Rangers, Sounds like Rangers - must be Rangers!! History in tact. Away the Bears!!
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Same fans, different club. History concluded! Its like buying a dead mans suit and walking about saying your that man... Lived his life and all that.. And by you saying it all the time really will not change the fact you are a new club that has played its first game today...your very first day of your new football history
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Briggs; your analogy is erroneous, it is not the same thing at all. Nothing of note on the celtic rumours page today Briggs? Nah, there never seems to be since half of the celtic 'support' read this page far more than their own clubs! How very, very, sad lol.
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All football history carried. football debt, and punishments that's why we are still rangers. You can't punish the new for the old unless they are the same company. Where would be the sporting integrity. Lol
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29 Jul 2012 14:50:24
ed im obviously missing something here . what is the difference between whyte getting a loan of future season ticket money and using it to run the club or green asking for season ticket money then using it to run the club ? after all the club only cost one pond to each of them so they are not using the money to buy the club.also is it really the case that out of the millions or rangers fans in every corner of the globe ( or so we are told )that not one of them would make a substantial amount of money available to rangers other than people who are looking to make money ,fab1 {Ed039's Note - Season ticket money always funds the clubs, the difference is white mortgaged 4 years worth of tickets to pay off the debts he said he had his own financing for. The deceit)
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Whyte got the loan of future season ticket money to PURCHASE the club. Green has already(with his investors) purchased the club and now wants to fill the seats.
That is normal business practice.
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29 Jul 2012 10:09:50
Hi ed,now that we have agreed to incur punishments from the old co. ect. does that mean the history of the old co. still exists i'm confussed about everything thats happened. {Ed039's Note - You and me both, the argument from green is that the corporate entity that ran rangers went bust and that it's still rangers the football team)
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We transferred our membership. We did not start a new one. Same membership same ibrox same fans same Rangers. No history lost. Watp.
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So tell me then ...... how much are the shares in the club formaly known as RFC currently worth in todays market ......?
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@1 you haven't transferred your membership! You have a temporary one until a NEW one is granted... get that....NEW!
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Hard to know how the SFA/SPL will move on this. In my opinion, if oldco Rangers baggage is being transfered to newco then so should its history. And the transfer is required as newco doesn't have the 3 years accounts etc required to apply for first time membership. I really don't know why SPL/SFA is concerned about history - can't they just allow the transfer so at least one bit of uncertainty is removed?
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No transferred yet just a 'made up' temporary one.
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The shares of the old company are worth nothing as before admin the club was taken off the stock market therefore couldn't be bought unless buying from the share holder
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Football clubs are incorporated companies, they have to be to have association membership. When the company fails and liquidates, it's the football club liquidating.
If its the same club why doesn't FIFA, UEFA, SFA etc,.... Acknowledge it as such and acknowledge its football history? They don't! Why is it The Rangers FC? A new named club? If it was the old club it wouldn't need to transfer shares or memberships, it would own them.
The new club is unseeded.
It is not the club that got second SPL place last year.
Saying it is a company being liquidated and that the football club can be swapped over is a really bad lie from a really bad liar.
The SFA will tell you it's a new club soon enough.
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29 Jul 2012 14:55:56
any players that drop divisions to help Rangers get back to the spl will never be forgoten by our fans , so onwards and upwards starting today and good luck to all sfl clubs if you can make some needed money from our club and supporters .
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Yes. One day there may be a "Lee McCulloch Stand" at Ibrox.
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29 Jul 2012 14:46:59
what radio station is game on ?
cheers
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29 Jul 2012 14:10:55
well bears and others,the adventure starts today.It's kind of exciting really.You can't keep a good team down.the rangers are playing today.It's a great day for all rangers fans.super ally is a true rangers legend.mtan
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Ex rangers fans {Ed039's Note - Come up wi sumfin original please. Gettin bored now)
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29 Jul 2012 13:11:08
Heres a few translations extinct bears,for sevcos first ever game!....reitear=referee...fear-baire=goalkeeper... bala=ball....bair=net...tadhal=goal....& if theres any trouble fonadh chun a phoilelis=phone the police....stevo
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Hi stevo do you not phone 999 when your wifes hitting you with the rolling pin after youve spent here bingo money on buckie lol doug t.s.o
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Steveo, do you come from the Western Isles? Fluent gaelic speaker are you? Know much about the Scots who actually use gaelic as their lingua franca? No, I didn't think you did!
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29 Jul 2012 13:17:31
No that rangers ia play thier first game in the ramsdens cup today does that mean you are officially a Diddy team ..geo
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...that comment will offend all D3 clubs.
Insulting.
Luvgers
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No it means your a diddly for writing such stupid comments. All teams in the sfl play in it. So what your saying is any team outside the spl are diddy teams honestly this just goes to show how much of a diddy you are
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I'm sure fans of Barca, Real Madrid, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, AC Milan, Bayern Munich would consider all Scottish teams to be diddy teams. It's all relative in the big picture no team from Scotland is particularly good.
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Who said am a diddy i demand tae know lol
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29 Jul 2012 13:08:37
good luck to ally and the players on the 1st step on the road to where we belong, the top of scottish football
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After seeing the game(full time-extra being played now)there seems a long,long way to go.Extra time needs to be spectacular!Fair play to Brechin--no push over
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Mighty be a longer road than you think if you need extra time to compete with the mighty Brechin....in a cup game...( was this not pencilled in as the first of many trophies you are going to romp to)
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Yes to the junior ranks
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Surely today must go down as a shock result as we beat a second division team away from home.lol
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29 Jul 2012 13:00:39
At long last we're back to playing football and supporting our team where it most counts.
It's a real pity that Ness and McCabe didn't stay the course with us as I believe they'd have become greats like the Greigs and Baxters of old. I live in South Africa now but if I were in Scotland I'd be at Ibrox every second week to show support.
I reckon that the fans should support Charles Green now and put the Whyte fiasco behind us. To all the lucky fans out there who live close enough go fill out Ibrox at every turn, go make us all proud. This is a historic moment in our history and time to show our support and passion for a great club.
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This is the only good post I've read all week, the man makes a good point. WATP
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Just shows all the Visitors who just cant stop slagging of the Rangers pressing the disagree button, Hope yous get stuffed on wednesday, then we will see just how good YOU are, He who laughs last laughs longest,
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29 Jul 2012 10:06:51
Posted on here a few times but i just want to give a big shout out to the rangers today, thank god the seasons kicking off and actualy looking forward to it. be quite good for a few cup runs and go through the divisions aswell. Spl will be very dull but its there own fault more people will be interested in us and we will be back up in no time WATP.
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The SPL dull! Hope your watching Alba,this is dire.
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29 Jul 2012 09:27:28
A wee while ago Charles Green attempted to 'buy over' Bury in League One to get Rangers into England.According to the papers anyway.
Now,Portsmouth FC with only 4 senior players to their name and seemingly doomed,would it not be an idea for Rangers to 'takeover' Pompey and play their fixtures?
Still play at Ibrox and probably have to start with Pompeys' -10pt penalty.Logistically the F.A. will hate the idea but I'll just put it out there....as a why not?.
Thoughts guys...........
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Think your a doughball
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This is the kind of spiv scam thinking that doesn't work and got our old club liquidated. With our history.
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Charles Green, has no money to buy over any club except us because that was a 3 way stitch up, after duff and duffer guess the other crook, no the best thing in the interest of rangers moving forward is to boycott Green, hope he sells, (in fact make him sell to the right type of people) and then he can run down to England and buy what he wants,
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Portsmouth are in millions of pounds of debt so the original post to me reads the equivalent of saying: Why does Green not make a bonfire of £50m in pound notes... The debt would just be transferred across.
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Where do you lot get your information Mr Green is a millionare you clown!
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29 Jul 2012 00:57:58
Eds, on the SFL website it calls the club 'The Rangers FC' on the div3 table, which appears correct and when you click that name it gives all the history and stats of the old club which is being liquidated. It also shows the strips with 5 stars, does this mean the history is being sneaked back?
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Because its a transfer of membership and not a new one all history gets kept.
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@1 Where does Newco come from then?
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29 Jul 2012 08:06:00
I hope BBC Alba has the biggest viewing figures in it's history today, it might serve as a gentle reminder to the other TV companies that even a severely battered and bruised Rangers still are (Follow) followed by a vast percentage of Scotland.
Good luck to the boys, Little to score 2 and Goian to score the opener!
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Your probably right about the viewers as its on freeview and the channel was only launched 4yrs ago so probably right about it being the highest viewing figures in its long 4yr history lol
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Lol.playing brechin and hoping for good luck
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Brechin are a Division above us and will be better than most of the teams we will face this season. They have also had a full pre-season, were playing at home and were clearly up for the game. The Rangers team have had no pre-season games bar two closed door kickabouts to get their match sharpness. In addition we only had enough registered players to field four subs and two trialists on the team sheet. On top of that we had Goian (dire and uninterested) and Bocanegra (who barely scraped a pass mark) who clearly don't want to be there, and a clutch of kids in the team. Yes the performance levels need to improve but all things considered it was a great result.
However, today was clear proof that we do need experience (Shields, Beattie, etc) to accompany the youths and introduce them gradually into the hard knock football in the lower leagues. We will probably sign more players (frees and nominal fees to replace the ones we have lost) in the next month than the SPL teams collectively. Judge the quality of our team and how we play then.
It wasn't slick and it wasn't pretty today but did anyone actually expect it to be with only five regulars from last year in the team (including two looking to avoid injury so it doesn't affect their chances of a move away)? I didn't.
Well done today lads and good luck to Brechin for the season ahead, they put up a good fight and can be proud of their team's efforts.
Brian
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29 Jul 2012 03:07:55
try www.vipbox.tv
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Why not try tvcatchup that gives all council digital tv channels and will b a much better link need to register but takes 2 secs
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Catchup is for only uk residents, a lot of us live abroad
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29 Jul 2012 01:28:26
New Rangers players being paraded in the tabloid this morning. Nice to see positiveness but I can't help being worried about the exact same club badge and 5 stars. My understanding was that we couldn't use that. I guess we just have a lot of stock from last season to use before new kit and badges come out for The Rangers FC.
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No liquidation as yet means everything stays the same till that kicks in.
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Obviously one of 'them'!Otherwise you would know that the kit never had the 5 stars on the badge.And why would we not be able to use the same badge?!Also....why would the kit man have this years top left over from last year?!
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Things will change once liquidation happens. The name will change along with the badge, then you will have to buy the new tops etc. taken for mugs again!
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Because we transferred the sfa membership the crest the 5 stars it all stays the same we have not lost any history. That's why we are getting a transfer embargo and a fine.
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Maybe the five starts now represent the 5 months of administration. Lol joking aside couldn't care less about history it's a nice have its just good to have my team back let's move and and look forward not look back
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Guys I know we don't want to believe its not the same club but legally it isn't and it's just stubborn silliness remaining with some guys. The history stops with the old club being liquidated. The Rangers FC were founded 2012 by a guy called Charles Green.
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@1) liquidation or not new club should not be wearing old clubs strips it's illegal. {Ed039's Note - Are you a lawyer?)
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Why not use the same name, shirts etc. you've been cheating for years why change. {Ed039's Note - Another lawyer?)
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How many times has our rivals changed there badge and name of club. A few I think. But that doesnt matter does it. Lol
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29 Jul 2012 00:47:29
St Johnstone chairman admits that he voted no to Rangers remaining in the SPL because of massive response from fans of Celtic,Hearts,Hibs and some others via letters and e-mails. All the rubbish about listening to his fans was untrue. Sporting integrity means nothing to the clown Brown. I'm now glad your club was eliminated from Europe. Geo
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A similar post was put on here weeks ago cant remember the posters name stating that a certain element within the Celtic support had made hundreds of calls to clubs threatening boycotts etc and a national rag had got wind of this.
Yet there supporters are on here constantly spouting sporting/moral integrity. Now I see they have a fund going to sponsor players of teams who voted against Rangers.
Our journey starts today, lets enjoy it and forget about our bitter,hate filled rivals from across the city who are gradually being shown for what they really are.
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That just sound like sour grape's well done st johnstone for putting in a great effort an honest attempt ,no like the scottish football hater. i hope brechin hump ye.geo
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Sorry to disagree,but most chairman were in the same position,they are in fact a cartel ,they want to look after their own interests,we will be a huge loss financially,they will all now suffer as a result,we can rebuild away from the politics of the SPL.Cant wait to watch the Brechin game,The Rangers rebirth begins
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@1 Do you not think they know their own fans?Don't be ridiculous---you must blame someone and it has to be Celtic every time.Nice to see you happy at another club's poor result.Sour grapes mate.You can't blame anyone but your own club.
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28 Jul 2012 23:28:15
apparently a massive crowd filled parkhead today for Celtic v Inter Milan.
All of 25,000 wowee - some crowd eh ? mind you it was ONLY against Inter Milan.
Let me see um - that leaves 35,000 empty seats, now aint that a shame.
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Comment on crowd in midweek! VEGIEBHOY
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Wee Bill,you do realise it was a friendly? What a sad life you must lead to post this rubbish.
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Whats your point? How many turned up for your cup game against Dundee Utd last year, or your two home European games? All of which were competative fixtures. Enjoy Brechin
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Meaningless friendly don't worry yourselves about our stadium fill yours first lol, how many season books you sold yet?
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Only a friendly and considering its the glasgow fair nothing to worry about for a pre season. Not as bad as that dead club rangers v Dundee utd in the Scottish cup last season 17000 i sem to remember or had that escaped your tiny mind.
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Why does it matter to u ? you should stop worrying bout Celtic and worry bout ur own team Celtic r no longer relevant to u as there is 3 divisions between us now just accept that rangers as u know them r gone u r now just a 3rd division club with no history who r playing there first game.
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4,050 for a diddly match today - you call that the road to recovery? {Ed039's Note - Full capacity?)
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28 Jul 2012 22:15:30
mccoist should be speakin to the fans. everyone of them has failed the club miserably. we have had a few chances to help the club but have failed them.
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McCoist needs a reality check.To not even mention the tenure of David Murray in his ranting statement shows where his loyalty lies.
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And ours against inters neighbours albeit the ledgends was a complete sell out and we ended up making more seats avail due to the high demand
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The boy's conflicted, emotional, stressed, probably on meds, ...... His face has aged 20 years, grey and bald, no more wee ally winking.....He's had his sparkle knocked out him, is irrational and doesn't make sense...
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28 Jul 2012 22:02:56
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Ali lets have a True Blue to sing
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He already signed for a Spanish second division club.
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Has he not signed for his first club in spain?
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Novo just signed for a spanish team at the start of the season so i doubt that will happen!
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I think he signed for a team in the tier below La Liga,the one he was at earlier in his career. I agree though he would have been ideal for Division three.
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28 Jul 2012 21:45:56
All Rangers fans should boycot all Rangers games until Charles Green reverses the shameful decision to hand over the TV Rights to the hypocrits in the SPL. Holding on to those TV Rights are just as significant as holding on to our titles. Without those TV Rights the SPL are fecked. However, we Rangers fans will not be lectured from the SPL about 'Integrity' because they have shown with their bullying of the SFL and blackmailing of Rangers that it was always about 'Money'. The fans of all the SPL clubs may be saying one thing but the chairmen of your respective clubs are saying something totally different behind your backs. Rangers may have been disgraced because of the actions of a few men in suits at Ibrox but 'Scottish Football' is a 'Disgrace' because of the 'Hypocricy and Greed' of a few men in suits in the SPL and SFA. First the SPL wanted Rangers parachuted into the First Division then they demanded the TV Rights to all Rangers games in the Third Division in order to secure the Sky deal. I wonder where this sits with all those who shouted about 'Integrity over Money'.
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I as a rangers fan don't want us to play in the spl again. There should only be one governing body in charge not three. The leagues should all benefit financially from the top down no more greed. we where part of that when we broke away and help start the spl. Now it's our duty as football supporters to fight and make sure all teams in Scotland get a fair crack at it and get what they deserve. One Scotland.
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Yip, kill off the only supply of cash to your club. Nice one.
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I am under the impression that the SFL own the broadcasting rights for any games in their leagues. If so, why are you blaming Charles Green? I am getting sick of the constant bashing this guy is getting. The more I see him speak the more I think he is doing a good job. Where were all the so called Rangers Men when it came down to it?...Nowhere is the answer. Green and his consortium came up with the cash when it was needed and no one else did, end of. Walter etc came in after the liquidation had been announced...like vultures picking over the bones. If they had come in at he time and when the club needed them the most I would have been right behind them. Stop all the talk of boycotts etc as now is the time to get behind the team and support them in our historic journey through the SFL. Starting today at Brechin.
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Ed. I took the time to type a reply in response to this post. Can you tell me why it wasn't posted? {Ed039's Note - I have been workin and watching the football today, what did it say?)
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There is one governing body, the SFA.
There has to be different bodies to run the leagues.
What Rangers minded want is a single body that's pro Rangers.
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In england the fa deals with it all tv deals and all footballing matters. And it gets stronger every year in Scotland we look like amateurs to them. Our game is dying with no real leadership every man for them selfs. Just greed
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28 Jul 2012 23:24:46
what do you guys think the team will be tomorrow?
Rory
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28 Jul 2012 21:41:13
Why do Rangers need to sign players that no other teams are even interested in, not even the decent junior sides?
The players that stayed such as Alexander, McCulloch, Bocanegra etc. mixed in with the younger squad members should be more than capable to cruise through D3.
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Players are needed for 2 full seasons. That's a huge squad to put together. The bad playing fields will result in many injuries. Expect more players to leave.
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Bocanegra will go. Can't ask internationals to play at that level. Your mcls and alexanders will need to take paycuts to play at that level obviously. Cost base will need to be reduced to match revenue. Thus we need players because....we need players. A few "experienced heads"/ hatchet men to mix with quality youth products....oh and cheap too- black ticks all the boxes.
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Trust me lots of teams were interested in ian black, its a major coup for a division 3 team to have signed him.
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OP what players would these be exactly?. Black, Little, Sheils all had offers to play elsewhere and at a far higher level than D3. As far as I am aware they are the only players who have signed or agreed to sign deals. As for the other players Rangers are looking at, Beattie, Kafes, Kyle etc. To suggest that no other teams have interest in them especially junior sides is laughable. You clearly have no idea about football.
Terry The Toerag.
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Expect our quality youths to be on the end of some hatchet men tackles in the 3rd.
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28 Jul 2012 21:25:59
Vignal free agent, only 30. i would take him back
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We do not need another left back when we have wallace mccoist will just play vignal and wallace on the left hand side like last season wa papac
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