Rangers Banter Archive January 29 2015

29 Jan 2015 15:55:42
I am 100% unflinching on the EGM victory in March (4th or 5th I hope)

BUT for purposes of debate how do Bears feel about life with ashley if EGM went other way?

I was looking at English lower league set up:

IF and I mean IF the worst thing happened and for some reason we lost EGM (ashley maybe buys up shares at crazy prices before EGM vote. unlikely)

I would suggest we approach a team in the ENGLISH 1st or 2nd Division or Conferences until we struck a deal to be AFC Glasgow Rangers

Options:

Bury or Carslile (nearest travel wise) in level 5 one down from English top 4 Division system

Concord Rangers (my fav due to their name :-) level 6, two divisions down from top 4

Corby Town (a big possibility due to Scots population in Corby they would welcome a Rangers takeover/partnership more than any English town I think) level 7 three levels down from top 4

This might sound crazy BUT had we went down that road 3 years ago we would potentially already be in the 1st Division one away from Chamionship or the 2nd Division or at worst 1 division short of the Top Level English leagues.

Imagine a few seasons away from playing in EPL! I am talking without mccoist and co!

Fanciful possibly BUT with 10000 traveling HARDCORE Bears that would support Rangers in any form in any city especially on a dream road to the EPL it isn't an impossible dream!

Please do not get me wrong I am 100% we will go on to win EGM but if we lost and ashley was the choice I would do as AFC Wimbledon did. I can't see why we could't approach English owned teams like above to see who would want to become Rangers AFC and eventually get to the Premiership

Banter mind :-)

i am george

29 Jan 2015 18:49:32
I never thought in a million years that what happened to Rangers was ever a possibility, but it did. So, by that thinking I would never rule anything out. Actually sounds like a decent idea, I'd follow a new Rangers rather than anything ran by Ashley and co.

Concord Rangers travelling at the speed of sound to the top of the English Premiership.

lolol

i am george

George I fear you've been on the cheeky water the nite. haha

George its glasgow rangers or nothing if it goes tits up at e g m we must broker piece with ashley and see what happens we cannot keep going down the boycott route ashley would sink the club totally wandering about england to conference grounds etc is not what rangers are about not one ofvur better ideas george

29 Jan 2015 21:39:01
Bigwull there will be no piece deal broked with him and rather than support the robber of rangers and it's jewels I would be sure a lot of supporters would rather we start again the club rite now is a mess this ain't the rangers we no and love everying they do is not the rangers way banning legends treating fans with contempt the list is endless

30 Jan 2015 11:25:29
BIGWULL I think you should change your user name to Met Office, cause you change your mind like the weather mate. One day its F* Ashley we will never support and Ashley run Rangers, the next your on about truces and peace deals, every thought about taking a seat in stormont.

29 Jan 2015 12:36:15
Getting away from all the politics for a bit. If there is indeed a change in the Boardroom and Rangers men are back in charge, a big cash injection, how about we buy back McLeod, Telfer and Rhys McCabe? Maybe Jamie Ness. Plus Felix Magath to coach the future generation.

I applaud your optimism. However what do you think is the going market rate for McLeod and Telfer? McLeod was sold far below what he was worth and if he continues to develop and perform it would cost millions to buy him back. Telfer is playing and scoring in the Utd first team and is a young player rated highly in Scottish football. Utd don't deal with Rangers and even if they did would demand millions for him. Non starter I'm afraid.

29 Jan 2015 15:16:11
Offft no!. What I see McGath doing is bringing youth in from the continent if he did take up the role he spoke of. Anyway Jamie Ness walked away. Only player I would have back is Andy Little stupid to let him leave when we basically replaced him with Daily. Boy was a goal machine.

@2

Not sure he was a goal machine as he didn't score many in div 2 last season. As for the post there is no chance any of these players coming back. Wouldn't want Ness back either. Rangers spent a fortune getting that boy over his injury problems and he thanked us by jumping ship as quick as he could. He was never good enough for the Premiership and it was no surprise he failed down there

Penny

You are dead right yet another arse up by our gardener

i am george

Stewie along with naismith lafferty whittaker macgregor aluko wylde only steven davis allowed the club to get a transfer fee and especially naismith every time I hear him talk about rangers my blood boils hecwas the ring leader they should never be allowed back under any circumstances

30 Jan 2015 01:52:02
no way should these clowns ever darken our door again tuppence ha, penny players who have mostly failed, and davis was the captain of GLASGOW RANGERS / he didn't even have the decency to explain, he slithered off into the night

Thats exactly the reason why you are where you are. A big cash injection, spend, spend, spend. has nothing that has happened in the last 5 years sunk in. Rangers need tog et back to the SPL slowly and in a position to be able to afford their bills. At the moment they are trading insolvent, they have less coming in than they have going out and even with the full seaosn ticket money they would still have been borrowing millions to get thtorugh the season. Time to step back, take some more pain and emerge at the other end a healthy, well run, sustainable club. but unfortunately that doesn't fit with the ideology of a lot of Rangers fans, too many chasing the sugar daddy and will do anything to get one. Look how that has worked out. Time to stop lookind adoringly at King, he is a charlatan who should be chased, Park and Letham are TOP businessmen, they are the people you should be supporting but don't expect them to be handing out tens of millions to try and chase your way into Europe. A FULL rebuild of confidence, players, coaching staff, board members and then you have a platform to build on and with the support of the fans it may work, but it has to be full support even through the bad times which there will be.

29 Jan 2015 10:12:05
hello everyone, this will be the last time I write on this forum as I like everyone else love rangers and I wish we were back where we belong but I don't like fighting with my fellow bears, I firmly believe ashley will come good and we will prosper under him but I respect the majority who are against him, you are entitled to your opinion. I will sign off with a question that I have asked several times but no one has answered. WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM IF/WHEN KING AND 3 BEARS TAKE OVER. ibrox stadium needs a lot of money spent on it, its falling to bits. the squad needs to be rebuilt asap, at least 20 million required I reckon, we need a complete scouting system set up and more money invested in youth, current crop not good enough, we need a quality management team in place, not cheap, we need mccoist and mcdonut paid off and forgotten about. all in we probably need about 40 million pounds sooner rather than later to move forward, who is more likely to have that sort of money, billionaire ashley or tax cheat full of hot air king. I know no one will agree but so be it. thank you and goodbye. eoin pierson. darlington loyal

Cannot agree with anything you say about Ashley although your point that we probably need about 40 million pounds sooner rather than later to move forward is a valid one.

How much would the Three Bears, King and the fans be willing to put in if the Ashley men were gone from the board but the onerous contracts still in place?

29 Jan 2015 13:45:21
First of all financially you are correct but having a club which is an extension of SD is not the answer take a look at NUFC .We need crowds back to generate income and probably another year in the championship with scouting system in place and the board gone the feel good factor would come back and we could start to move forward and more investors would come on board .

Ibrox like any stadium needs some work. a lot of work has been getting done since before the commonwealth games which rangers received a subsidy for from the council. likewise for the metal shed across the city. A scouting system will be put in place with proper coaching from grass roots like all other clubs in the country and your evaluation of £20 million to challenge Celtic is way off. unless of course they start buying a much better calibre of player than they have at present. £15 million over 3 years would see us competing for Europe alongside a good sciuting network to

Oorpie if the 3 bears don't suceed we will have to down the route with ashley and give him a chance because if he is the only team in town its either sink or swim if he does no get backing that will be end of rangers ed what's your opinion in that scenario

Yes a club like our does need a professional scouting set up. But let's not forget that once the club is in the right hands and in a position to mabye make some playing aquisitions that we have willing 'scouts' all over the world in the form of ex players who i'm sure would be more than happy to make recommendations. We don't have a board who are interested at the moment tho.

Oorpie, we all love rangers, we all have our points of view, and thoughts on what's happening at our great club, rightly or wrongly. we are a family who sometimes argue but we stick together, so keep posting your thoughts.

If you look at what Ashley has spent at Newcastle then he isn't going to spend money at Rangers. Newcastle under Ashely have taken in more than they have shelled out in transfers and more importantly have won nothing. He is only interested in the commercial side of things and now he has done this deal he controls 75% of shirt sales and will get money from any shirt sponsorship deal. The club has been sold down the river by this board and the sooner they are gone the better. Ashley won't get rid of these people but King will. Hopefully come the EGM these imposters will be out. Until then I think a boycott is the only answer both going to the games and buying any club merchandise

This man's posts will be missed by so many people (not really) and I for one am gonnae miss those inciteful brilliant observations (not really).

Could we not organise a petition to make him change his mnd?

To answer your inane question King and the 3 Bears will dip into the multi millions they have between them. The same multi millions that allowed the to make a16million offer of assistance with no security on Ibrox and 8.5million also.

You are ashley in dusguise or maybe irvine? Surely you can't actually be this daft naturally?

i am sad you are leaving

Oorpie, were would the money come from if Ashley stayed in control? Definetely not the fat chap, he only lends money out, parky ime in complete agreement with you on this mate.

The 3 bears & king may be wealthy but they don't have £40-50m to just put into the club, and no one in there right mind would do so. What is so wrong with the way Newcastle are run, most top clubs in epl are bought & invested in with loans, and can some one also explain (maybe you George that knows everything) just what harm Ashley has done at Newcastle, they maybe challenged a couple of titles and nearly bankrupted themselves, rangers need a stable sound business man in charge to go forward.

{Ed039's Note - Newcastle owe Mike Ashley somewhere to the tune of £120m plus, and the same at Rangers this is in the form of an interest free loan that is secured against club property, trademarks and or future TV revenue)

There is no need to stop posting because of difference of opinions, that is what it is all about.

Stewie spot on mate.

29 Jan 2015 21:58:35
Original poster ashley doesn't invest money he only loans saddling club with more debt no way in the month of Sundays will he loan the club 40 million take your mind back to last time a man who had rangers in his heart and wanted the best for the club he invested tens of millions of pounds in the club his name is David Murray I no some blame him one thing for sure though is he has gave us loads of happy days and memorys for life then stack that up against owners since him nothing but heart ake so I will take 3 bears king and the others waiting in the wings to invest the will spend more than ashley that's for sure for the better of the team they are rangers at heart just like Murray so take ashley and his cronies with u good bye to u sir

Stewie I read elsewhere it will cost the club 1. pound25pence everytime someone buys a jersey, that money goes to fat mikeyboy.

But is that not just the same as an overdraft or mortgage, if he ever manages to sell Newcastle would the debt not get wiped, I'm not sure.
But bet the next owner gets debt up to the eyeballs buying it.

{Ed001's Note - the debt would not get wiped if sold, he was asking for someone to pay off the loan as part of the purchase, hence why it is still owned by him.}

29 Jan 2015 08:16:30
Interesting article in today's Daily Record about Mike Ashley alleging he is engaged in 'asset stripping' Rangers. It also reckons all the pathetic goings on in the boardroom are simply strengthening King's hand for victory at the EGM. Talking of which, I can't recall when the 21 day period expires by which time this pathetic Board are required to call an EGM?

29 Jan 2015 13:23:58
I think King announced it on 16th Jan.
So I expect something about this time next week.
Just hope King et al can secure another 5 pc to make sure of this.It could be that close,and for me this is it if EGM fails.

29 Jan 2015 13:40:29
The EGM call deadline is 4th Feb - 21 days from 16th Jan. Then has to be held within 28 days - by 4th March. Roll on!

Doiger, Following King's request for an egm on the 16th. January, notice must be sent to shareholders by 6th. February [ 21 days. ] The notice should include the intended date [ within 28days. ] I calculate that to be Friday 6th. March.
Ashley's meeting with the SFA is on Monday 2nd. March so, I think he will organise the meeting for Sunday the 1st or 3rd-5th, depending on how he assesses his stance will be with the governing body.

TV sport says it has to take place before 27th Feb, which would be 42 days.

Final outcome from e. g. m. will all be announced on the ninth of March.