Rangers Banter Archive April 29 2014

29 Apr 2014 20:11:31
"We have always been ambitious, always set our targets as high as possible and I understand and accept that, " he said.

"I wouldn't want that to change at all. And, hopefully, if we do get investment, those targets can become realistic which is where we want to be.

"We need investment. I don't think it is as much rocket science as people are making out.

"If you lose in the region of £35m to £45m worth of players (due to administration) and don't buy to replace them you are going to struggle to compete at the level you once were.
Ally at his best. seen nothing, said nothing learnt nothing. Does he not understand anything out of this whole blinking mess. we couldn't afford the teams we had,,, over the years? we were living outwith our means. I honestly am now thinking this person does not have a clue about anything and I mean everything. he opens his mouth and does not have a clue what's he is talking about. Even that robber Green was telling him he was using up to much money winning in the lower leagues,, what a fool,, get rid before he gets rid of more and more fans.

29 Apr 2014 20:37:25
McCoist admits he is "absolutely intrigued to know where it (the money) went" and insists the fans "100 per cent" deserve an explanation.


Funny how Ally tried to hid the scale of his wages from the same fans that 100 per cent deserve an explanation now and only agreed to take a long delayed cut once he discovered the fans were about to find out the crazy salary he was on.

Ally's 'I know nutthink' act is becoming tiresome.

@ op "we need investment, and I'm willing to invest as we need to strengthen the squad to challenge celtic or they will dominate for years to come" Dave king. has he not got a clue either then.
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Listem macoist maybe agreed to a cut but somewhere along the line he will be getting it back as he states he is anxious to find out whwere the money went I am anxious to to know what the exact terms of his contract are but oh I forgot he never read it at this minute all he is doing is deflecting the limelight fom hi self or I should say attempting to

N2 rf good on you mate they only need 30million but if you could be as good to give them a couple extra million on top I will be etternally gratefull as ime sure will a few more supporters

Ally keeps harping on about losing players and each time their value seems to go up and up. What he fails to mention is that Rangers weren't competing at the same level once they lost all those players. He was given a wage bill over 100 times better than the teams he was competing against yet all we have watched over the last 2 years is dross. Only a couple of youngsters have played regularly and our team is full of ageing journeyman players with no longterm future or sell on value. That is the planning of an inept manager who is quite clearly clueless

No2,,, wtf had King to do with Ally or anything at Ibrox. ? nothing at moment. so why the hell are you bringing that non entity into it?
Is it to deflect ALLY'S hopeless comments and attitudes?
Head in the sand stuff will lead onto oblivion. the man unfortunatly is a liability Mcoist is the worst we have EVER had. nd to make things worse he can't even see it.

29 Apr 2014 12:39:27
ED001 I have suggested poll on Celtic page.
Here is one for everybody on here if you agree.
If Mr King gains control, would you trust Ally McCoist to spend any transfer money wisely?

{Ed001's Note - thanks Tim.}

@ timalloy mate I would trust you more with our money

Me too

@1 don't know about that did you see his dodgy tips for the grand national!

I'd trust Fred Goodwin more than McCoist. Come to think of it there is more than a passing resemblance.

Op if dave king got control he would move mccoist upstairs cause dave king must have noticed ally mccoist ain't good enough to manage rangers fc imo

I am afraid upstairs is no good only one place is out the door and shut it behind him

I don't understand the idea of sending McCoist 'upstairs'. To do what exactly? The club cannot afford ANY freeloaders at the moment and if that means that certain club icons have to lose their positions then so be it. If, in the future, things have been turned around then, and only then, there might be room once more for 'club ambassadors' and such like

Steddy it was club embassodor or similar role I was meaning but had to chucle at you saying we can't afford any freeloaders maybe you should have said any MORE freeloaders eh

29 Apr 2014 09:30:43
Keith Jackson in the DR today "At current rates the club is valued at £14m and there have been strong suggestions Blue Pitch and Margarita might be ready to cut and run perhaps for a sum of around £6m". So why don't we pool the season ticket money and offer the above the £6 it would give the fans a 26% voting right if an AGM is called and I am sure McCoist would also give the fans his voting rights again and we can bin this board.

Because you would own a club with no money to the running costs, season book money goes to that.

@nbts why not get dk to put the money up and the fans could pay him it back he's got the backing of the uof so i'm sure the fans wouldn't have a problem Chipping in to help pay him back

@2. That is, to all intents and purposes, what is happening at Tynecastle. The IT woman is forking out £2.5m now and getting it back over 5 years at which point the fans would be the owners. The problem with using the ST money is that the fans would have to ante up for STs again as the day to day running of the club relies on that money.

Nothing but the truth I have been saying buy them out for long and weary its the only safe way to do everyone please get a massive dose of reality it would not cost a fortune let's do it

@ 3 i'm not suggesting we use the st money obviously we need that for running the club

@ lbj d that's the problem 6m is a fortune and all this time you been going on about buying these shares up how many shares do you own

At this miute in time none but I lost £40k the last time I had 8 5k bonds dave king he got the most of his back and he does not own any but if u gut 50thoudand fans to pay £30 /month 4months its paid

Thats the problem a lot of people haven't got spare money also we would need someone like king to put the money upfront and doesn't look like he's parting with his money anytime soon

That s what makes me wary of him he got £18m back from sir david but so far nothing in I cannot understand why everyone wants to give season money

@ 3 Just thinking out loud but what about the Billionaire Jim McColl? Wouldn't he provide the business loan to buy the bleedin lot of them out? This membership scheme that has some merits- just not with the discredited mob that are talking about it. So the fan owned club still get the ST money and the extra over direct debit monthly monies go to pay the Billionaire.
He didn't want Charlie boy and his pals to get a reward from the 4 Requisitioners buying up shares but the average fan at this point just wants them out.
If you did some how get the first problem sorted- this board out- you would still have the split loyalties on McCoist.
Some of us are less likely to stump up if he is still the manager. IMO we will only survive by a complete clean out of board, management and a large-ish chunk of the playing staff. Difficult I know - possibly getting towards impossible but we do not have a club to be proud of at the moment.

This mob will not sell up unless they get a massive payday the only way to try reversing the table is to starve them of money

29 Apr 2014 04:06:23
So, after the 127 day! review how many of you are still wiping the sand out your eyes? Are there any who are emptying the change bottle or dusting off the old cheque book in preparation for renewal? Seems to me the only issue we have is a reluctance to accept that the baw was burst a long time ago and that our Rangers are only a memory which has been replaced by this shape shifter we see before us.
As I've said before, this entity is simply an evil twin using symbolism we recognize to bleed us dry. This club operating as Rangers is not the club I grew up supporting and I for one would be happy to start again with a new, honest club rather than accept this ba574rdized version as the club my family supports.
I hate to say I told you so but, well, you know the rest.
RIP Mr Jardine, it is people like you who will remain the essence of Rangers in my memories. Thank you for your integrity.

Was about to post something very similar Baybear - clearly you got out your bed before me!
In my opinion an era ended last Thursday when Sandy Jardine passed away. we can kid ourselves as much as we want but the club he loved has gone.
You need to look no further - if we didn't already know it - than the 120 second review published on the Friday and the incoherent ramblings of a man from Greenock. don't think this is a libellous comment?
No season book renewal from me - veiled threats or not - and if it means administration number 2 the so be it.

Astonishing findings Mr Bear I think I know what you are trying to wake us up too. Our Club has been Infiltrated by reptilian shapeshifters. Whom have took up positions of power within our Club via an SFA & Lawwell Conspiracy cover up, hell bent on destroying the planet rangers from the inside then blaming the masses that it was there own doing, for not pumping there hard earned Cash into an institution so badly broken it's beggining to feel Alien even to the most familiar & Loyal Fans. I suggest a TinFoil Hatted march on The ET Being that is Cloaking itself as the Great Rangers Football Club. In all seriousness though BayBear I agree with your post 100%. I won't renew because I can't afford but even if I could i'd just go on holiday or something with the money & I plan to do that if I come into any. Things are going to get a whole lot worse before they get better a saying we should be way past by now is still fresh in my mind. The sad truth is I can't see this Rangers being a Club to be proud of anytime withing the next 5 years. Although my Heart did fill with pride watching a fitting tribute to the great Sandy Jardine just as I got in on Saturday everything was done with class as it should have been for the class act & gentleman he was. As you guys say though the Club he loved is gone & is the lifeblood of that club are under high pressure every day & I cannot take it much longer.

29 Apr 2014 12:53:17
Calm doon everyone. I'm sure JG will resurface eventually to tell us we're all just being naive. Remember his reassuances based on his superior business knowledge that eg the Laxey loan (sorry JG, should that be "credit facility") was just "normal business" procedure. I'm confident he will come on here and similarly explain that the 120 day review is nothing to worry about and that its only Ally haters who are putting a negative spin on it. We should all be grateful that a guy with such clarity of insight is prepared to share his wisdom with us on here.

I'd love to see the 'full' version of the 120 day report rather than just the 'update'. That will be a real eye opener

@ 4 StEddy I think the "full version" could be classified as a sort of padded bra. A lot more stuffing but absolutely no real change to the substance. In our case 67AAA