Rangers Banter Archive April 29 2013

 

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29 Apr 2013 22:27:55
Had to laugh when I read the sun today how naive is Ally to still think he had or has any chance of getting 10 million to spend the guy is a liability, I wouldn't trust him to buy my shopping for me. He buys utter shambolic players and gives them sky high wages to entice them because he thinks he needs them. It doesn't take a genius to work out if we are losing too much money the wages need to be dramatically reduced. What I would like to know is what would it take to entice Ally and Walter to finally walk away

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Ally doesn't pay players a penny. Managers don't do negotiations. Ceo / finance directors and agents will do contract talks

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Well poster who said Ally doesn't deal with buying players. Allys the one making lists of players he wants and he is the one who got all the diddys we have had in the last 2 years obvisously I wouldn't trust our ceo or finance directors to strike any deals for decent players who don't want astronomical wages. More chance of striking deals to suit themselves do you not read papers or something and who do you think puts the names forward, Ally as I already said that's why I wouldn't trust him with my shopping. I take you think we are doing well with Ally considering he is on nearly a million and a year plus bonuses and its not just the papers that information is on its on the news aswell

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@1/ wrong. the ceo will ask what the manager thinks the player is worth, sell on value and total package then decide. if they did not do this how would a player ever be bought?

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Dont go for play offs its just another trick to get last penny out of fans pockets by prawn sandwich brigade got em in england and hate em.

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I am amazed that after 2 seasons of McCoists drivel on and off the pitch there are still seemingly genuine supporters backing him, one fool even said he was happy with McCoists progress. what progress, he is dragging us through the muck in the gutter that Whyte and Green (both of whom McCoist Backed 100% until they got caught) put us in.

If McCoist is a True Rangers man and he is genuiunely looking after Rangers best interest;
1. why didn't he listen to Bomber?
2 why is he on 20k a week?
3 why does he have shares?
4 why doesn't he listen to the supporters?
5 why did he publicly back Whyte and Green? (and now Mather!!)
6 why hasn't he said one single thing that would enlighten us to what's going on in the club?

The answers to these questions are simple, he hasn't done anything for the club because he is on £20 a week and has shares, he didn't listen to Bomber because he would have had to do something that might put the golden egg at risk plus who else would employ McCoist.

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N5 if ally walked when the players walked we might not have a team to support who would have went to watch a rangers team being run by unknown people people that never knew the first thing about our club and its supporters tmwnn

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@6/ Amazing post! The club IS being run by unknown people that don't know the first thing about the club

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29 Apr 2013 22:08:19
Fantastic win for under 17's tonight in Glasgow Cup. A bit of good news! well done.

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Aye. Sounds like a great game. Well done to the youngsters!

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29 Apr 2013 21:56:48
Glasgow Cup Champions! 3-2 to the young bears!

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29 Apr 2013 21:31:39
well done to the youngsters 2nite beating celtic 3-2

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It's great beating Paranoid FC at any level. Gers, 55 and counting. 56 coming next.

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Had to give you summit ffs, a defeat tonight might have well been the straw the broke the camels back.

Mind you, you needn't have worried the ref looked like he'd had the brown envelope, not even joking.

Enjoy your summer lol

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At a time when we're on the ropes, and might need to reach out for a bit of fan power from other clubs, it's bears like 1/ that keep us in the wilderness.

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@3 to true and well said, Rangers fans are better than that.

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It was under 17's but we get "paranoid FC" & "brown envelope". In many ways I miss the OF games, in many ways I don't. (Think my blood bressure is better. )

Hey, hope the lads had a good game and well done the Gers boys. But lads get a grip. Think we all have bigger things to worry about than a youth game of football.

Shuggy

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Well said Shuggy and I'd "lol" at the blood pressure joke if I didn't believe it was actually true :) Ditto mate.

Gaz

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29 Apr 2013 19:45:19
Here's a funny one!

I posted a wee story a couple of days ago, about me and ma the using the term " Ready, Aye Ready" the term used by Scots soldiers of old, and a fellow Bear mentioned the Fire service, which is spot on.

Ally attended an opening for a new Sikh temple the other day. GOOGLE "CAMP COFFEE" And notice the Scots soldier sitting with the Sikh soldier, and the words Ready, Aye Ready! LOL

Are people getting signals! LOL Just think the timing is genuinely funny.

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29 Apr 2013 17:53:19
I'm afraid that Stockbridge has not really cleared up the issue of Rangers key assets.
The point is that they are currently being contested by Whyte who claims ownership by virtue of Sevco 5088 where they once sat.
Showing the deeds does not resolve this issue.

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White is arguing. Are you serious mate. While I have reservation of some people at Rangers at the moment, White is jusst a complete and utter fantasist. If he told me the sky was blue and the grass was green I would still not trust or believe him.

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Very true stephen. what's needed is transparency real fans sick of spin, just like end of nuliebore.

if nothing to hide then contract for sale of assets and transfer if any would be public knowlegde.

dont seem claims that parkhead not owned by club, as the been on aim for years without raising any concern or issue.

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29 Apr 2013 16:38:13
I will not be renewing my season ticket for next season until Mathers and Stockbridge come out and tell us how they are going to take the club forward. I am not in favour of the Easdales buying more shares and becoming major players infact if these 2 get there way I will not be renewing, They have had more adventures than Dick Barton

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29 Apr 2013 16:04:22
Sandaza broke the terms of his contract and was punted without getting a penny. green and ahmed are guilty of gross misconduct, could be sacked without getting a penny, but they get six figure settlements instead. these parasites are doing nothing but stealing the fans money and are getting away with it. the bonuses for winning division three come to about £1.5m, and how much did rangers get for winning the title? the fans are paying the bonuses. when green mccoist and the rest paid 1p for their shares, the fans paid 70p. who has to make up the difference of 69p, the fans of course. the obscene salaries for green, mccoist, etc, are paid by the fans. green's house, car, generous expense account, again paid by the fans. these people came without giving rangers anything, and are bleeding the club dry, and taking us on that dark road to administration again. surely to goodness fans must boycott season tickets and merchandise. starve them of money and make the share price tumble. they'll be like rats deserting a sinking ship. dave & hugh

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I think you're right as far as Companies House is concerned, but not sure if the SFA want audited information before this.

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All valid points mate. don't forget Green cost £1600 per month for his living costs and Rangers picked up that tab as well!

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Worse than that

Green gets £360k salary
Bonus (for winning div3) £360k
and 12months notice £360k

Thats £1million folks. kerching!

And its fans money that walked out iborx.

Ahmed same - so now £2million just walked - is it still double digit millions in bank?

Now - does green get paid for the 8 rangers subsidiarys. if so more loot.

he put £25k in and £1mill out and 8% of busines.

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(3) plus whatever he can eventually shake out for his 5 million shares, Currentlu North of £3million.

Put in £25K of Whytes money, packs off into the sunset currently £4m to the good.

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29 Apr 2013 15:26:48
Ed do the audited accounts have to be handed in 2moro or not I keep hearing they do / they don't do you know for defo?
Gary p {Ed001's Note - I don't know off the top of my head, but, if I remember correctly, you have 9 months from your accounting year end to hand them in.}

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Are you worried about them? No doubt they be cooked& not signed of by an accountant. all a spider web of lies, summer and beyond will be worse than last year got a gut feeling. sm

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ED001/ that's for the financial side of things. If they don't hand audited accounts to the SFA it affects the licence and the Euro ban will be back to square one, Three years.

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29 Apr 2013 22:34:57
A euro ban?no euro ban at all. a new club must have 3 years audited accounts to play in Europe. you don't, its not a ban you just don't meet the entry requirements. and good luck playing in the Scottish cup next season-you don't meet the requirement

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How does they affect scottish cup participation? A good cup run is always a good money earner, well I guess ally knows all about that doesn't he? Maybe best not to compete as he will only be embarrassed once more!

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@3 I would lay money down that they will be playing In the scottish cup next season, audited accounts or not!
As we know SFA have bent over backwards to help this new club so far why would it stop now!

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@3. Cause if you win the Scottish Cup you get a crack at Europe!

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30 Apr 2013 11:44:28
#6, not until you qualify through your countries qualification system, 3 years audited accounts, which Rangers can't do before season 2015/16. Try understanding the rules before mouthing off.

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29 Apr 2013 14:13:25
I think we should let mather stockbridge and the rest of the gangters in the boardroom know we won't be buying season tickets untill they sling ther hook!

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They aren't going to go without a fight. If the stock price keeps falling they may have no choice. Don't renew until the club begs us. Even then by paying one game at a time will force them to cut their cloth to suit. Ally will have to coach next year or leave it to someone who can. We need to force them into a youth policy and clever scouting, buy cheap, train and sell for profit. The truth will come out eventually but we shouldn't make it easy for them by ploughing money into a business which needs to face reallity of spending.

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Fans could buy no season tickets, and turn up for each game and buy on the door like the olde days.

this way fans own the club, not club own then fans

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29 Apr 2013 11:07:05
Cannot believe McCullouch in the press stating david Murray only made a mistake and shouldn't get the blame. McCullouch is a pawn for Jabba and the rehab of the vile SDM.

Oh and he walked from his country cause he didn't like the manager's style and setup. That's ok then lee. Good excuse for desertion of duty.

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Stockbridge gets a nice fluff piece in the same groups paper. Tells the whole story for me.

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I 've never seen a player more deserving of a division 3 champions medal than Lee McCulloch. The man every bear said wasn't good enough and wanted rid of 18 months ago.

If league reconstruction goes ahead and the old div 3 is done away with, they should let Jig keep the trophy.

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What duty? he can stop playing international football if and when he likes, god so much venom

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What's lee mcculloch not playing for Scotland get to do with a rangers interview? If we had 11 players with the heart of mcculloch this season we wouldn't have lost a game.

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@2) I don't mind McCulloch a good, hard trier but put what you said in perspective, he IS playing in Division 3 and you're talking about 18 months ago when he would have been in the SPL. Doesn't make you right and them wrong by any stretch of the imagination.

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This season Lee Mcculloch has stood for everything that is Rangers, he didn't jump ship and has been a leader on the pitch. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and the article on him in the paper is exactly that.

@2 as for the conspiracy theories about newspapers and favouritism do me a favour! My opinion by the way! PB

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I marvel at the naivity of some folk on here. "It'th troo because a saw it oan tha telly" Unbelievable Jeff!

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Like the vast majority of footballers, there's as much chance of McCulloch understanding the compexities of the Rangers situation as there is of him comprehending the Quantum Physics Theory . just get on with the football Lee and let the people with brains outwith their feet get on with their business eh. !

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Apologies OP and others my reply above was on the wrong post LOL!
That reply was supposed to be for the post below about being 'shown' the deeds!
As for this post, I appreciate what McCulloch has done. Still voted for Wallace as player of the year though, he's been the most consistent and reliable in my book.

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29 Apr 2013 04:08:41
What are some of you like, for months you have been shouting show us the deeds, the deeds are produced and what is your reaction? Aye anyone can have bits of paper, ffs get a grip!!!

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Reminds me of the 'birthers' when people got together asking for Obama's birth certificate.

So are these people seeking public proof of the deeds called the 'deedsies'?

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Err, The deeds were not produced. A shiny yellow folder was produced, but no pics in the article. Just you keep following the shiny though.

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Well said mate everything for the last 2 month has been about deeds, now there shown and everyone is still unhappy, no matter what happens even if they see the deeds from 1 foot away they will still moan about something, can't wait to next year 2nd div title in the bag

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Only John brown shouted for the deeds as a cack handed way of trying to establish who has a floating charge over the assets. The deeds stlll haven't been shown and even if they did they wouldn't necessarily prove that point either way. Especially not ones which have clearly been drawn up in the past week or two. They even say April 2013 on the cover!

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Any time I've seen deeds to a property that someone owns, they date from the time the property was built. I'd expect to see a 1928 document. not a shiny plastic clipfile.

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Would agree with 2; having a picture of folders on a desk isn't goni cut it. Are we to believe that if Whyte does take it to court the picture from the Sunday Mail can be considered as evidence? if it was that easy the club would be in the state its in ffs! get a grip guys. there is only one kind of transparency and traynor getting his mate to run a story with a picture attached isn't anywhere near enough!

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Seriously bears, are you not insulted that these people think that showing a picture of a folder with title feeds written on it will make you happy and sell season tickets by the thousands?
They are taking you as mugs and you have to stop them doing this!

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29 Apr 2013 00:04:42
I would of thought that Gary Ralston of the sunday mail would of had a better camera to zoom in on the deeds as the pictures he took are incinclusive and the one Brian Stockbridge is holding is blank. Its probably Ally property portfolio with all the money we are paying him.

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The whole thing is a farce. This is to sell season tickets, that's all.

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I take exception to online postings of concern and valid questions being called "malicious" or "damaging" or by "Internet bampots"

Just answer the valid questions or things smell. The above criticisms of valid questions speaks volumes.

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Agree2. We need to establish the truth. Until they prove everything beyond dought I won't be renewing. We need to starve then of money then wait to see who jumps and who is loyal.

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28 Apr 2013 23:36:21
Why don't we all take folders with us to game on saturday with title deeds wrote on them and if anyone asks to see them we say no.

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Rab show us the deeds

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No problem guys will bring them with me on saturday. I have nothing to hide. on them I have hundreds of folders just need to write title deeds

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