Rangers Banter Archive September 28 2012
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28 Sep 2012 21:29:26
SPL clubs are to receive delayed payment in next week (BBC Sport 13 September).
This has gone very quite; still no second instalment to member clubs!!!!
Whats the SPHELL up to; if the money is coming in why is it not being distributed?
One for a tribunal to consider me thinks; maybe they can fine themself to bring in much need revenue.
Carling1873
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Obsessed with the spl and member clubs I see...why? You are just a fourth tier diddy team.
Briggs
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Surely I do not have to point out the obvious irony in your reply Briggs?
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F.A.O. Carling1873- Payments to SPL clubs are of no consequence to Rangers F.C. in any way,shape or form!
It doesn't matter to us what the SPL (we are not a member of that self indulgent cabal!) do with their money-they can distribute it, keep it, do they even have it? To be honest,I don't care!
Whatever financial problems the self indulgent cabal(SPL) have does not concern us!
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Briggs. There's an awful lot of attention and interest in that fourth tier diddy club. Why? Because its Rangers. Simples
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And yet your on a Rangers page, so who's obsessed now.
Das Shadow
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Why you on here then Briggs, teams in Europe see you club a wee diddy SPL team as does wanyama and hid agent
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Fourth tier team yes diddy hardly not according to attendances highest attendances in scotland so away an bile yir heid
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A diddy club that beats the best team in the league nugget
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Briggs briggs briggs, pot calling kettle black, why u even on here?? obsessed by Rangers maybe?
Tam
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Why on earth would a third div team be so concerned with the big teams league? Try and get there then you have a right to ask.
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"Why on earth would a third div team be so concerned with the big teams league?"
Would that be the same big teams league this little third division side just humped their number one / top team??
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29 Sep 2012 17:14:01
Why would we not want to know were the money is, Rangers are currently sponsering this diddy leauge to the tune of approx 3 mill via our media rights.
Can't do with us; can't do without us WATP.
Carling1873
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Lol..muppets.
Briggs
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28 Sep 2012 20:10:03
A few Forres players with good engines, keep an eye on the right back Fraser and see what an engine is.
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They're mechanics after all
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28 Sep 2012 19:03:02
what should the ranger line up be for the match against Forrest Machanics
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You need to watch these guys they seem to find a spark and step up a gear when it suits them and no point going on about how much money you earn these guys will just rub their chins
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Is it just my dodgy reception or does the Forres manager sound like Ally McCoist?
I was listening the the preamble to last nights Sportsound and heard what sounded like Ally saying stay in the tie, a return leg at Ibrox and a nice money earner.
Sounds about right.
Al(ly must stay)
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28 Sep 2012 18:55:56
My team for 2morro, change it a wee bit...(4-4-2) Alexander, Cole, Perry, Hegarty, Wallace, McKay, MacLeod, Hutton, Aird, Stella, McCulloch(C)... SUBS Gallacher, Crawford, Witorski, Cribari, Shiels, Naismith LeJonWATP:)
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Why change your centre of defence when they played well on Wednesday. Crazy idea.
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Agreed m8 why change the team unless some of the boys are carrying any knocks or after affects of Wednesday.lets try an keep the momentum goin,expect a tough game up there this team will fight and fight they've nothing to lose and everything to gain,stay professional and I'm goin for a 4nil win.
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29 Sep 2012 05:01:36
As the mechanics would say, "if its naw broke, dont fix it!" :)
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28 Sep 2012 18:11:09
At long last, Rangers fans have someone to defend our club against all-comers, like the BBC. Keep up the good work, Mr Green. Geo the Ger
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Considering its our licence money paying for it as well, the is a total disgrace.
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28 Sep 2012 20:34:10
Geo, I looked and looked and could not find your horse tip "dirty carpet" never beaten you told me. There was me prepared to put on £50 hoping odds were "double carpet" (33/1)
Oh well having a bet on your team of "donkeys" tomorrow both teams to score and a draw 90 minutes.
Wee Forres pay £30 a pop, puts your overpaid, underachievers to shame. These wee teams have something your ex team will never have, pride and work ethics. Timalloy
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Hello Hello Timalloy...another tip for tomorrow at Newmarket, Sour Grapes is running in the 3 o'clock. Enjoy your winnings. PS If Gers don't win tomorrow I'll eat my shoes! Geo the Ger
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I,ve a horse for tomorrow its called milanda
it will be a good price its an ootsider...les
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Well sit on the fence timalloy
Vambo
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No 4 ah my first job beatties bakeries dennistoun ,milanda wesleyan st was sister company doug t.s.o
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Timalloy, you speak of pride and work ethics, but between you and the rest of our forum, do you have a gambling problem? You should take heed of the good advice you receive by my kind fellow Bears. Kind regards Eeyore.
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I bet bbc scotland viewing figures on wed. night was one of their highest this year. Mocking us has backfired on them. Anybody slagging rangers now should be prepared for reprisals.
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Hope Rangers fans know that BBC's mouthpiece Tam 'The Tim' Cowan has an anti-Gers agenda. He acts like a wee glesga fly man with a typewriter and forked tongue. watp
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Anyone who listens that clown cowan gets what they deserve. A few people I can t stand listening too, cowan, andy murray/ his mum and of course mr lennon. Mute button or channel change immediately. Must be bigoted eh...............
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28 Sep 2012 16:13:27
Hey all you ex bears, next time you
go to Ibrokes, visit the new Portuguese
restauarant that has opened in the
old Clachan Bar it's name? what else
but LISBON! lol Timalloy
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28 Sep 2012 18:56:33
You are easily amused Timmy
JG
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28 Sep 2012 14:36:01
Welcome to Forres tomorrow. Wee town with plenty of pubs and football daft with supporters of various teams. Town is buzzing about playing the Rangers. So come and enjoy, expect a hard game and and see you next week for the replay!
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28 Sep 2012 16:57:31
Replay?? Go for the win, their team lack the fight! Then you could have a glamour game against an SPL club!! lol
Miko x
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Glamour & spl?? haha eh naw
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yea the glamour game against a SPL team would be great just as long as you dont suffer from Agoraphobia (fear of wide open spaces) because thats what you get at these big SPL grounds
Lochaber Bear
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Good luck forres
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28 Sep 2012 18:37:54
Cheers m8. I don't know much about your team, but I hear the guy Grants no bad even though he's in his thirties. I hear he has a good engine on him.
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The diet rangers have possibly the worst away record in europe....they're there for the taking...guys on £30 a game are clearly a threat to the multi-millionaires of asbestos arena!
spank them....and spank them hard!
mike the mechanic taco
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28 Sep 2012 13:05:06
I don't know about the Motherwell game, but I was sent 3 complimentary tickets for the Montrose game last Sunday. The letter from Rangers said it was because I had been to games in the past and they wanted me to come back. It also said the seats I was given were still available to buy as season tickets.
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28 Sep 2012 16:43:26
Mr Greens desperation tactics me thinks.
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Sounds to me like good pr and advertising won't suit the social conspiracy anti rangers brigade
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Good business practices, well done Green
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28 Sep 2012 12:39:23
What does Green intend to do with the money raised from the share issue/floatation?
From his mumblings it can be fairly assumed that he would like to raise £30m for a 49% stake in the club.
Why when there will no scope to buy players for a year (transfer ban) and when there is no real need to strengthen an already expensively assembled squad (with wages the second highest in Scotland despite being in the 4th tier)?
Even success in the Scottish Cup would be a passage into Europe as new clubs can't compete for 3 years on that stage?
Where is Ticketus in this situation? They were involved publically in every bid to submit an offer to buy Rangers1872 before they were liquidated.
The cynicism towards Ticketus from those who would attend
Ibrox was well documented then all of a sudden a Yorkshire man, with no real apparent wealth comes on the scene refusing to disclose who was behind him because of "client confidentiality", those who he tried to associate with himself immediately dismissed any notion that they were involved.
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28 Sep 2012 16:07:25
He probably plans to take back his original investment plus interest, the current consortium will retain 51% of the shares, whats left will be invested in the club
It is not unusual in business to make money, I recall a wee man wi a bunnet did the same thing and he was thought of as a hero in the east end
JG
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28 Sep 2012 16:08:57
Rangers have not been Liquidated m8.
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Ehh, suppose he could put it in the bank and make more money for our return
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@3. You're wishing and hoping rather than expecting surely?!?
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28 Sep 2012 12:25:33
With all the air time and columns that Mr Green has taken up lately , on a very frequent basis there appears to be no scrutinising by the mainstream media as to what's actually happening, we know their past failings etc but you'd think "the people" would demand more!
The £8.5m loan that Green has against Sevco, when does he intend that his be repaid?
Ticketus, why are there very strong links to this organisations parent company still apparent?
Who actually owns Ibrox and Murray Park?
These are fundamentals which have not been asked never mind answered.
When the reality of the situation bites, the comedy show will go on!
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You should read the papers, but to answer you -
1) 2020
2) going against Whyte
3) Green & consortium
As for never asked, really. It has been asked a million times by those that want to stir things up.
As for the comedy show, think you are the comic.
Why so interested in a third div team, ah yes obsession!
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28 Sep 2012 11:29:31
on clyde the other night,they said rangers dont get a penny tv,money,could someone explain why this is the case. bewildered gers fan
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Was part of the conditions on a new club joining the league they do not get any TV or competition bonus money for 3 years or something?
One of the reasons why Green like most of the Rangers fans is fed up with Oldco / Newco switch arguement everytime it does not suit Rangers.
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Condition of entry into Scottish Football via the back door.
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"condition" ..... the real word is "extortion" my friend! LB
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Rangers TV apearances are part of the SKy package which is negotiated by the SPL and then a payment is made to the SFL which is divided up between all SFL clubs. Rangers do get a payment for thier TV appearances, they just dont get it all, and they dont get it till the SFL pays it out to them. It's not so differrant than what happened before.
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Radio Clyde panel were wrong - Rangers are getting TV monies. SFL bent their rules to help Gers, while helping themselves,of course. Geo the Ger
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They bought the rights for 1 million so you get a percentage of that buttons really compared to what the spl teams make off it
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Yes they get a payment which is something in the region of 5000 ponds, which you consider that 15 games are been shown in total via sat, regardless what you think of the Rangers situation it seems obscene that you can sell the tv rights to a club they tried to rid off
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28 Sep 2012 11:24:41
All the bears who stood and supported John Brown,have you switched to Mr Green? What Brown said was pretty damning and he has never been asked to elaborate.For me there are still too many unproven statements from Mr Green.
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John Brown was like many others, winning popularity by saying everything the fans wanted to hear but without a lot of substance, and certainly zero cash coming forward.
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To number 1 ,just like green you mean?
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Well Bomber's back from his fishing trip to Alaska and is gonna be on Off the Ball tomorrow. Programme's gash but might just be worth a listen tomorrow.
Personally I find Bomber a bit of a clown but I do think he knows something very unsavoury about Green. And he has a duty now with a share issue on the way to tell the fans what that is.
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Brown was genuinely emotional and deeply concerned. It wasn't false. But he didn't have the education or skills to achieve anything. His concerns remain.
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Donald Findlay although an eccentric certainly has a brilliant legal mind and he thinks Green is going to harm Rangers.
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28 Sep 2012 08:59:08
In a way happy that sandaza is ou for the rest of the year it will give the youth a chance!
and also i hope hutton gets a game from now on!
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So stupid to suggest happy any player out and reduce options.
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Not to mention its a serious injury,makes you wonder what these sad people are thinking,so many more important things than football
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28 Sep 2012 13:00:34
i wish sandaza a speedy recovery and hope to see him back in the blue jersey soon
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28 Sep 2012 07:06:20
Was having a chat with one of my Celtic minded mates last night, we were talking about away allocation if we were to get Celtic at home in the next round I personally don't think if we did get them at ibrox that we would give them more than 1000 tickets he thought different due to the OF agreement, but my point to him was we no longer have to follow that as we are not in spl anymore. What is everyone else's thoughts?
Cranny {Ed001's Note - it is irrelevant, clubs have to make a %age available for away fans. You can't just not give them tickets.}
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Why do we suddenly want to play Celtic? After beating a poor Motherwell side do you really think we can beat or even match Celtic. I sometimes think many people who post on this are drinking far too much. Are you forgetting the games in the third division when we barely matched our opponents. Why not take who we get and if we win great but lets not pretend everything is great again. Celtic, I believe would burst any enthusiasm we have as I think they are currently a much better team than we are. WE beat Motherwell but do you really think at the end of the season they will be top of the SPL, we need a reality check.
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I understand we have to give them tickets but my thinking is we would not give them as much as we would when in spl ie. the broomy I think we would give them what everyone else gets the wee corner
Just an opinion, won't ever find out unless we draw them at the brox
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I think there is a policing issue with regards to old firm ticketing, giving Celtic fans just the usual amount of tickets as other away teams would be a security nightmare.
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It's a minimum % of the opponents stadium.
Say 10%
Ie 10%/60,000 6,000 briefs ie Broomloan Road Stand.
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Having had all games at home the probability of having another is very low and keeps diminishing. More probable we would have Celtic at Celtic Park. Celtic would therefore benefit more commercially although we desperately need the funds.
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I'd give them f all! LB
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If we draw celtic at ibrox keep 25,000,tickets and sell them to the rangers fans to cover there eyes during the game, CHOPSY,
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The percentage offered is 15% of the total capacity of the stadium, this was agreed many many years ago, and applies to all teams, in all divisions.
it's up to the away team to decide if they want the full allocation or not, as they have to pay for that percentage regardless of how many tickets they then sell...eg, st mirren wouldnt pay for around 7,000 tickets when they know they will probably only sell 1,500 or so, but celtic or rangers pretty much guarantee they will sell out their allocation
i thought this nonsense about witholding tickets and selling programs for £15 etc had been explained numerous times on this page??
maybe some people need to digest what they read instead of passing off facts they don't like as 'timmy propaganda' ?
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29 Sep 2012 08:28:34
@8 take your own advice and digest what you read, none of the above posted anything about selling programs @15 quid
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28 Sep 2012 05:23:44
Having watched what I felt, the best performance of a Bears team for ages. The only negative aspect I got from it was the young players not willing to take on or go into tackles with more confidence. But, I admit the pace at which they hit Motherwell especially in the second half was a joy to watch. These young lads will storm the SPL in 2/3 years so watch you backs the tic. We are on the way!
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It wasn't a great football match to watch. Rangers appeared better than they have so far only because Motherwell were so rotten. Technically rangers gave the ball away unnecessarily could string several passes together and were fortunate Motherwell were so bad. We do not want to play Celtic.
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28 Sep 2012 19:08:56
OP I enjoyed the game on wed but we also need to get out the habit of passing the ball all the way back to our keeper when we are in the other teams half, there was one occasion when we were just outside the 18yd box and two passes later the ball was with alexander
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27 Sep 2012 23:28:17
I think our ore season is over now. Now we can get on with being the best team in Scotland again. J s m
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