Rangers Banter Archive November 28 2016

28 Nov 2016 20:46:51
what is the situation regarding mike jabba the hut ashley, can he even buy any more shares in our club? i thought there was a duel interest meaning he is at the top limit of shares already as he owns newcastle.

28 Nov 2016 21:16:52
He can still purchase shares in order to keep his current percentage of the club. He owns 9% at the moment which is within the dual interest boundaries. Under the proposals though his stake would have been diluted by half to 4.5% with no option to buy more. But thanks to Mccoist and the likes this option has been blocked.

28 Nov 2016 21:44:22
Hopefully now more people will see McCoist for what he is.

28 Nov 2016 22:34:41
Was the vote blocked again?

28 Nov 2016 22:49:50
Has it been confirmed yet that mccoist didn't vote? Everyone is castigating him and counting him guilty whereas we don't know yet!

28 Nov 2016 23:33:03
Supcoop, how does anyone know how or even if he voted, does he even still have the shares? To me it stinks of nothing but a big massive smoke screen to hide the fact that yet again king has been sleekit and blatantly lied about investment. no debt all the usua drivel he has spouted.
But then again everything is fine, a 5 year plan in place everything is rosie.

29 Nov 2016 00:21:31
it looks like the story was leaked to the Daily Record about McCoist and with Traynor on board I have to believe that it is true.

That being the case I doubt that McCoist will be overly welcome at Ibrox any time soon but then again I doubt he will be overly interested. After all, he has always been interested in Ally McCoist more than Rangers as we saw with the ideal he did with Green.

Well, if you dine with the devil you eventually get your comeuppance.

29 Nov 2016 00:21:31
it looks like the story was leaked to the Daily Record about McCoist and with Traynor on board I have to believe that it is true.

That being the case I doubt that McCoist will be overly welcome at Ibrox any time soon but then again I doubt he will be overly interested. After all, he has always been interested in Ally McCoist more than Rangers as we saw with the ideal he did with Green.

Well, if you dine with the devil you eventually get your comeuppance.

29 Nov 2016 13:18:51
mccoist only done what he thought was best at the time and believed everything green told his as did a lot of fans .

will say something you guys love to hate a great.

its terrible if this is true that he didn't vote knowing how important it was to us and if it is true then he shouldn't be coming through the ibrox doors anytime soon but don't forget he still done more good for us than he has bad.

#stillmahero.

29 Nov 2016 14:32:36
Been away on holiday and catching up on the Ally story. What a lot of sh! te!

This reflects badly on the current board more than anything. If they wanted his vote then they should have ensured it was in the bag, simple.

It's a disgrace how many 'Rangers' fans like to kick Ally and without any knowledge whatsoever. The man is Legend end of. Worked harder for our club than anyone in our history. Was he always right? No. But he was there giving it his all, his best. Perhaps it wasnt enough but he was there, especially when everyone else was running away.

28 Nov 2016 13:28:00
it is ridiculous that we couldn't get the 75 percent needed and where 1 percent short again.
do we only get one agm a year and how long before we can try again to get this resolution 11 passed.

28 Nov 2016 13:55:23
I'm sure we need to wait another year for AGM and R11 I'm gutted that if true Mcoist is the one who could've pushed it through and didn't vote for resolution 11. Who is kidding who here.

28 Nov 2016 14:16:01
So Ally McSalary, the man who put Rangers didn't vote for the board's Res 11.

After putting us back years on the field he now seems to be choosing to hinder the club off the field too.

Club legend? Not for me.

28 Nov 2016 16:09:24
Totally agree about McCoist, how can a club legend and true blue Gers man not vote in favour of the club and board and just help the charlatans who have ruined our club for years now.

looks to me like Ally is happy to be sounded out like Cashley and all his cronies. Goodbye Super Ally you have shown yourself in your true colours now.

28 nov 2016 16:18:56
it wasnt ally that put us back years on the field .

if its true he didn't vote then i have lost a lot of respect for him although you don't have the authority to say he isn't a legend .

he won us 9 in a row with his goals and as a player he will live fondly in my memories till the day i die he was my hero.

but if he didn't vote him or sdm then for they should give up their shares in the club and take nothing to do with us.

i hope ally comes out and straightens everything out but if he stays silent on the matter then he is as good as guilty of doing his club a bad turn.

28 Nov 2016 16:37:45
James there is no excuse for what mccoist has done. Mccoist is and always will be a money grabber. He just didn't want his shares diluted and that's a fact.

28 Nov 2016 16:42:21
Ally didn't put us back years on the field?

Yeah I'm forgetting that silky style of football that he had us playing and those inspired signings like Kevin Kyle and Ian Black. Just a matter of time before a big English club brings him back into management I suppose.

As for me not having the authority to say he isn't a legend, I agree.

That's why I said he is not a club legend. FOR ME. He is though perfectly entitled not to vote and you could argue that financially it makes perfect sense for him not to want his shares diluted.

As for the veracity of the article then I would tend to trust Gary Ralston, a Rangers fan himself although coming from the DR I can see why some people might not trust the source.

28 Nov 2016 18:42:13
McCoist heaped praise on Green and every other money grabbing bastard that wormed their way onto the board in various positions for self gain at every opportunity. The fact is his silence was bought with his pay-off and we will never know the truth. Pains me to say it but seems he and the rest of that mob knew exactly what they were doing and are still looking after each other.

28 Nov 2016 19:23:44
James, ridiculous is the correct word it just sums up everything about your club lol.

28 Nov 2016 19:32:12
i its true the macoist did not vote he is even lower than ithought he was the board can have another ballot straight away but i am dissapointed they did not do their homework they ater all have the controllig share of the votes t.

28 Nov 2016 20:13:07
Statement Released on Resolution 11

The votes For Resolution 11 were considerably higher than the Directors had anticipated and resulted in an increase of c.1.9 million votes for the Resolution based upon last year's AGM vote. This was almost enough to see the vote carried as a special resolution. The Directors will consider carefully shareholders' views on this vote, consult (where practicable) with those who did not vote or opposed the Resolution and identify the Company's next steps after that process is complete.

For - 43,454,429 (74.6%)
Against - 14,795,321 (25.4%)
Total votes cast on the Resolution was 58,249,750. This represents 71.5% of the Company's issued share capital.

28 Nov 2016 20:21:25
We all boycott Sports Direct because of Ashley so tell me, how many also boycott McGill's buses?

28 Nov 2016 20:39:05
I boycott McGills buses, have never set foot in one, and never will. In fairness, I have never seen one, and don;t know where they operate from. Just doing my bit.

28 Nov 2016 20:50:40
Do we know for certain that McCoist did not vote or that he voted against the motion? We can assume that the dubious characters that are in the Ashley Camp voted against but before we make comment about McCoist we need to know the truth. Perhaps Mr McCoist would like to tell us himself to clear up any misunderstanding!

As for McCoist the player, he certainly scored goals for us and helped us win nine in a row but he certainly didn't win us nine in a row singlehanded and indeed I would suggest that any quality striker playing in that side would equally have scored the proverbial barrel load of goals at that time.

As for his tenure as manager the less said the better. He should never have been given the job in the first place and having been given the job he should have got rid go McDowell and replaced him with a quality number 2 that could have made up for McCoist's failings. As it was we ended up with two total failures and I don't see McCoist doing anything in the game if he comes back into football management. Perhaps it would be better if Ally just sold his shares to King and 'walked away' completely!

28 Nov 2016 23:00:38
It wasn't sir David Murray that also never voted at the agm, it was Malcolm Murray another so-called life long rangers fan.

29 Nov 2016 00:26:00
Malcolm Murray was seen for what he was in the short time that he was at The Club, Another so called Rangers man manipulated into the Club by the Green Brigade to do their bidding.

29 Nov 2016 13:30:48
naz he had to build a team from scratch mate and done enough to get us up to the championship with that team .

incase u forgot mate we where put down the lkeagues and 28 players left our great club he stuck by us when no one else would.

so no he didn't get us playing silky fopotball but with what was happening off the park sir alex ferguson couldn't have got us playing nice football in those terrible leagues.

so before you open your mouth think about the drivel that's about to spew out of it.

28 Nov 2016 08:52:17
Heres a thing, sure we need to spend money, but why not spend some more money to make sure we become a strong second at least for the forseeable future.
overhauling them was always going to take a long time, so why not make sure of smething more attainable, maybe seem like we don't need to do that to ovehaul the Dons but it would give us a solid base before we can set about trying to get top spot, ansd even if they do get 10, which is a while off and anythin g can happen it's still been when we're at our weakest so not too much honour in it.

28 Nov 2016 09:15:20
On our budget we should have that guaranteed but Warburton is messing it up.

28 Nov 2016 09:32:51
That's the thing, we're scrabbling about and it's a hit or miss if we even get second, whereas some investment and we would make sure of it and cement our place there, it's a bit at a time.

28 Nov 2016 09:58:56
I really hope Dodoo now gets his chance through the middle. His calm finishes were top drawer on Saturday and he has been asking for his chance now give the boy a run. I think he would work well with garner as a front 2 with McKay sitting between midfield and strikers feeding in balls.

28 Nov 2016 10:09:40
we don't need investment for that I believe that we will get second anyways but the players need to get out their ar*es.

for me its the players that are underperforming I think warbs shouxible and try different formations but end of the day the players aren't doing enough and don't seem to have that edge we need .
they need to put more into the games.

28 Nov 2016 10:50:38
I agree about Dodoo Blue Nose but I'd play Miller up front with him to start with - Kenny laid on both his goals on Saturday. Garner is a bit of a carthorse in my opinion. I would bring back Mackay or O'Halloran from the start though. Huge games coming up and we simply must put Hearts and Aberdeen in their place!

28 Nov 2016 10:51:24
I would have Miller behind the strikers, he has played well there a couple of times recently and look at the great ball he slipped through on Sat.

28 Nov 2016 12:38:30
Now to so you think if we get 10 in a Row, not much of an achievement as youz are weak😀, when youz done your 9 we weren't exactly at our best. We will be proud to get 10 and beyond and youz should be worried because BR has a team he loves and it is going to get a lot stronger Hail Hail.

28 Nov 2016 13:24:57
Not saying not much of an achievement but it's obvious to all that your main rivals during the years before we went out the league are considerably weaker now and Aberdeen and Hearts ain't any better. At least in those years we were up against considerably tougher opponents, of course we weren't always at our best, who is?

28 Nov 2016 13:34:03
I meant of course you weren't always at your best.

28 Nov 2016 13:48:53
Rodgers and dembele will be off after next season and yous will fall apart again so we are not worried . and as for yous not exactle being at your strongest actually yous had a pretty good team back then and its not as much of an achievement because at least yous where in the league when we done 9 in a row as we where when yous did it those where untainted .

we know its not Celtics fault but but we know that u know that we know that u know its tainted.

celebrate it all u want but there will always be a part of you that knows it doesn't really count as ten in a row more like 5 while we are in it.

28 Nov 2016 15:36:19
Correct, in comparison Celtic were pretty formidable opposition for most of those years and it was often nip and ruc hence the last day deciders and titles going down to the witness or close to it.

28 Nov 2016 16:50:55
Down to the wire even.

28 Nov 2016 23:34:59
Does the old rangers use of EBTs not make their 9IAR an unfair sporting advantage (paying wages they could not have other wise been able to afford)?

If Celtic do get 10 IAR at least it was all done with sporting integrity from our part and will not be tainted in any way.

And to the poster who thinks Rodgers and Dembele will be off in the summer, that some wishful thinking. Do you really think that will make your team better? Your team who's 6 out of 7 league wins came against teams in the bottom 6 at the time of playing.

Mind the gap.

29 Nov 2016 04:24:20
I don't know why we get hung up on the 'what ifs' of Celtic winning 10 in a row. You can only play against the teams that are in the league for you to play and it is up to the other teams to become more competitive. If we let them win ten in a row we have no one to blame but ourselves! Either our manager and players are good enough to compete, it is up to us to make sure we are. If we don't then we can't complain.

As for EBT's when Rangers used them they were legal and many companies used them. The screwup was Murray's not doing them properly if there really was an issue. The players, just like any other intelligent Human saw this as a legal way to avoid tax and they were acting as they saw it, in accordance with the Law.

We won the league fair and square in those nine in a row seasons. Why we did't win 10 in a row only Walter Smith can say!

29 Nov 2016 13:07:31
Thought it was7 wins, still they'd know best.

28 Nov 2016 06:41:09
If it's true I find it terrible that McCoist and Murray failed to cast a vote for res 11 resulting in a 1% shortfall of the required 75%. King stood by mccoists pay off when others would have told him where to go. Now he does this in return.

28 Nov 2016 08:04:30
Agree, would like to hear McCoist comment on this.

28 Nov 2016 08:56:27
Fd

According to the reports he declined to comment.

28 Nov 2016 09:16:22
Not surprised in the slightest. Mccoist only cares about himself.

28 Nov 2016 09:23:28
Super ally has let us down big time
On this one maybe big Mike promised him something for note voting or has sumthing to use against him to stop him voting.

28 Nov 2016 10:07:43
For once and for all the fans should see McCoist for what he is. This man only cares about himself and has betrayed every true Rangers fan once again.

28 Nov 2016 10:15:27
pure speculation there craigs8688.
I don't belive that for a second and reports from the newspapers don't mean jack to me .
maybe he had other contractual obligations that day and coldnt vote .

but I don't think mccoist went out his way to do a bad turn on rangers .
I can't see the life long rangers fan doing that.

28 Nov 2016 10:34:34
So mccoist and Murray could have changed the vote for rangers
why did David king or someone else in rangers not pick up the phone to these two men and enquired if they where going vote or not well before the vote instead we have have left it to chance these two phone calls could have made the difference.

I suspect the club where focused on swaying other investors to vote in clubs favour and automatically thought mccoist and Murray would vote in rangers favour but they didn't
We as a club have to be more aware and further to have anychance of getting Mike out the door of our club.

28 Nov 2016 11:02:56
James Stirling

This is 2016 you can cast your vote in many different ways and don't have to attend to be able to vote. Honestly if that's the best you can come up with then your deluded.

28 Nov 2016 11:17:36
I am assuming both McCoist and SDM were contacted, were fully aware of the significance of the vote and took conscious decision not to support the resolution. They need to explain and tell us why. No comment is not acceptable imo.

28 Nov 2016 11:33:06
As a share holder I can confirm you can cast your vote by post the envelope is even supplied so let's get this right I have been a huge defender of Ally but no more you can't say he forgot as it was well publicised in media how important this vote was to the future of this club he only needed to put a tick in the box and post it or god forbid he sided with Ashley and the Easdales which is unforgivable as for Murray I'd have thought he would have voted as the above to were part of the board who tried to shame him when he was pissed so for me I won't forget this shame on the pair of them.

28 Nov 2016 12:01:32
Never thought I would hear myself say this. Shame on you macoist I would hate to think there was anything sinister in him not voting.

28 Nov 2016 12:50:16
if that's the case biffo then we should egg their houses and barr them from ibrox.
if they just didn't vote for the sake of not voting then they are not true rangers fans.

I hate to say that as mccoist is my favourite rangers player of all time . and my hero growing up watching him get goal after goal after goal.
just a hard pill to swallow if he just didn't vote out of pure badness.

28 Nov 2016 12:57:20
Not sure if any of you have ever seen email between Charles green and mccoist, that was on Charlotte fakes?

In the email mccoist agreed to tell the fans to buy season tickets in return for his 750k contract and 1% of the shares.

28 Nov 2016 23:11:40
That's the last time I will ever defend ally mcCoist, disgusting, well we all now now what ally cares about, and it's not Rangers.