Rangers Banter Archive March 28 2012

28 Mar 2012 22:17:47
The real Fact is that Celtic are top of the league. They were there before rangers went into administration. This fact proves who the best team is not one home game.

Celtic were ahead in the league with 4 games to go last year and never won the league.

Your right, we were in front with 4 games to go.........so we threw it away as you were never gonna win it otherwise.

Don't be silly rangers were first to let a lead slip that season an let YOU back in the race

@2 - you bottled it again.

Just about the only fact you timmies have got correct... if we finish within 10 pts is your season a success? CheltBlue

That would be like 2008 when we had footballs biggest ever party Then let you win the league on compassionate grounds

28 Mar 2012 21:05:01
You no what guys this has been going on so long that I now don't even care what the outcome is and it's at the stage now when I don't care what state we end up in , WHAT you say , how dare I you think, well the reason is , that lot from the other side are INCAPABLE of burying rangers , so as long as there is a blue team playing in Glasgow the green team are MORE often than NOT going to get spanked, that's life, we have come to accept and EXPECT this so I am in NO doubt that over the next TEN YEARS we will beat that lot more times than they will beat us !

I agree its gone on way to long and we are getting to know nothing the administrators are treating us like mushrooms (keeping us in the dark and feeding us s@@t). they are holding off and holding off and i dont know what for either hmrc are going to do a deal or they are not prior to the case being heard and if they win the case rangers are f@@ked anyway and are in liquidation and then where willl the hmrc be, so whats the hold up !!!!! lets make our move get the deals done that get us out of administration and let the new season be a new start

28 Mar 2012 19:07:18
WHEN we come out of administration anyone know who we might sign for new season when we take back the league back home(no timothy's please, ur doin ma head in)

Sorry pal I'm a Tim, however that's a hypothetical and nonsensical question, I'd be very surprised if anyone else answered it....sorry.

Benedict

Jesus, even the pope is posting on here !

@2. Is jesus pleased the pope is posting? Did he even answer you? ;) CheltBlue

Its official ........ Jesus and the Pope support the Gers! LB

28 Mar 2012 18:52:58
that was the perfect way for uefa to not allow rangers to play in europe next season, they never liked us in europe, celtic get away with murder. its cause of rangers in recent years in europe why scotland get as many places. no disrepect to motherwell but they will get humped out of europe in the first hurdle, same as dundee utd

You are off your head! your not liked in europe cause you act poorly hence you recieve penalties just like any other club, Celtic does not get away with murder,we dont get ourselves in stupid situations(except for the banner which it was a couple ppl, who our club have punished). yous cheated to get in europe, if other teams in spl had recieve the money you had then they could have been in a better finacial shape and have expirence in europe making the spl better. For you not to realize how corrupt your team is and how they truly helped with the failing and shape of the spl just shows you know nothing and that your one tracked minded in think yous do/have done nothing wrong. WAKE UP!

Why cant we see that when it comes to rangers and celtic that we are both as bad as each other, our fans in the majority are the best in the world but its the nuggets that live in the past that are hell bent on causing bother no matter where they go be it manchester or seville. its about time that the decent fans of each club stood up and drowned the nuggets out so there voice and opinions were no longer heard and both clubs move on

WE cheated to get in Europe who only got in to C/l because of Rangers co efficient living of the backs of our hard work for at least the last 10 years also who was it that went on bended Knee this year and bhegged UEFA to throw a team out and your weeteam is in for a big shock they have been using a fraudulent coefficient to gain access to Uefa competition KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY the Swiss will not let that rest and neither will the rest of the clubs your mhob defrauded

28 Mar 2012 18:38:54
according to Andy Walker on talksport he cant understand why celtic security didnt want Lennon to go into the Directors box as Peter Lawwell was already in the directors box and in his words its the one place in the stadium thats safer than the dugout i think Lawwell decided that 45 mins listening to the Ginger Whingers was just unbearable.

Pad

Celtics so called head of security expert is a man called ronnie hawthorn who in 31 years as a police officer was never once inside a court room! He knows nothing about football and got that job through a close friend

To quote Mr Lennon-" It will all come out in the wash" -Stevie A-Bear

Wats to come out in the wash? The yellow discoloration? I just dont get wat he means. Does he really believe theres some conspiracy so deep rooted in Scottish football for 140 years to keep Rangers winning or is it that the powers want Celtic to lose at any cost? CheltBlue

28 Mar 2012 17:53:01
Your so vain, Celtic style.........

You walked into a party,
Like you were walking away with the league,
Cha-du-ri strategically brought down wallace,
Your scarf it was Green,
You had tinted eye's, on the match,
As you brought yourself to dream,
And all the bhoys dreamed that they'd be celebrating,
They'd be celebrating, and,

(verse)
Your so vain,
You probably think this song is about you,
Your so vain,
I'll bet you think this song is about you,
Don't you ? Don't you ?,

You had us several years ago,
When we were still quite naive,
Well, you sad that we made such a commercial pair,
And that you would never leave,
But you told English league 1 that you loved,
And one of them wasn't us,
We had some dreams, you would just fu-coffee,
Just fu-coffee, and,

(verse)
Your so vain,
You probably think this song is about you,
Your so vain,
I'll bet you think this song is about you,
Don't you ? Don't you?.

They are walking away with league worse song ever

I've read funnier from Dhimalloy.....and that's saying something! At least he leaves a name to claim his s###e though.

Well done, your post is now officially the campest thing on any rumours web page.

pappy

28 Mar 2012 16:14:49
Septic fined £21,000 by UEFA.
Wasn't their fault though, the ref did it an ran away.

Yes you are spot on,But the fine will be paid i note you have still not paid the stock exchange fine yet maybe you's wrote to them and asked them to pay by instalments out of the fighting fund....b

Naw were going to pay the fine with oxo cubes doug

28 Mar 2012 15:37:54
Once again the subject of the old firm playing in the EPL is starting again.

This will never happen, UEFA rule States that a club from one country cant play in another countries league.

If this was allowed to happen do you not think that clubs from Belgium would be asking to play in the German league or the Dutch league.

And before people start saying but Welsh clubs play in England.When the Football league was founded it was not called the English league because it hoped to attract teams from outside England.(Welsh, Irish and Scottish clubs entered the FA cup in its early days)

Uefa rules state if the old firm played in England the old firm can not play in any European competitions because both teams aren't playing in their national league, due to that both clubs are registered as Scottish clubs.

Das Shadow

What about welsh teams playing in the English Premiership

BLUE JK

I would think that if a league is found to be corrupt then i do believe they would be allowed to move because they are big teams, however i dont think rangers would get much fans from all the info coming out about them. ED do you think it is possible if a league is found out to be corrupt that they could leave to somewhere else? {Ed001's Note - no, UEFA or FIFA would just step in and run the show. There have been a number of leagues found to be corrupt, the worry would be governmental interference, FIFA really don't like governments getting involved in the running of the sport. They have banned national federations entirely for that!}

Because the welsh clubs was already members in England before UEFA made the ruling.
Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham are the only teams that can play in any league in England
Das Shadow

Newport County can also play in any league in England

Das Shadow

Berwick rangers play in Scotland, despite being based in England, don't they? Muzz

Because Berwick Rangers was registered in the Scottish league before the UEFA ruling was made, the reason why Berwick played the in Scottish league was due to the fact the more towns and cities in Scotland are nearer Berwick than in England, the UK is only one of three countries thats allowed to play in another countries league, the three Canadian teams Toronto FC, Montreal Impact and Vancouver Whitecaps which play in the MLS due to the fact that all three clubs are semi professional and Monaco playing in the French league due to being a Principality.

Das Shadow

28 Mar 2012 15:15:54
Neil lennons top ten 1/suspicious minds -elvis 2/out to get me - guns n roses 3/it wasnt me - shaggy 4/lying eyes - the eagels 5/whys everybody always picking on me-the bloodhound gang 6/desperado- the eagels 7/guilty - bananarama 8/if i could turn back time-cher 9/paranoid - black sabbath 1o/under pressure - queen. this will be available soon on mr lennons record label greet when you get beat. or why not contact neil direct on .WWW.HUFFDADDY/DONTFEARTHEREF.COM.

28 Mar 2012 14:44:22
Lawwell needs to phone the wee baldy admin laddie, an the conversation needs to go, "alright admin guy listen we don't care much for each other as clubs and never will but we have a wee unwritten law that we back each other every noo an again, these other widos are sensing weakness in the 'pact' we have so let's show them that we are the daddy's of this league , an believe me shuttlecock you WILL do wit your daddy says" ... Just a thought

And you need something to keep you busy!

Haha, excellent post

MDC

28 Mar 2012 14:02:57
anyone else think that Whyte is some kind of closit Celtic fan with an agenda to destroy our club ?

No he's just a conman who thought he could make a quick buck.

I honestly think that he saw a quick buck in it for himself and didnt realise the scale and magnitude of what he was getting into.

quabba

You's will probably say Neil Lennon sent him....b

No he's just a conman

Das Shadow

Get whyte in a empty room ask him some general questions about gers past then we,l see how much of a lifelong fan he,s been hed probably answer billy mcneill captained gers in barcelona doug

I was always let to believe he was a Motherwell supporter. But to be honest, I think which team he supports didn't even cross his mind. For him, this is purely about MONEY.

You talk about whyte but you should be asking about SDM, why did he sell to him? to save his ass and distract yous from him, which he seems to have done and for whyte to take the blame. In fact it was SDM and others memebers that put your club into this mess. why do yous keep your blinders on after everything younow know? yes whyte is s**te and wants to make a buck but who let him in? and why hasnt SDM have to answer questions every day?

@.....b
Stop bringing NL into everything!
Oops sorry for sounding like a Dhim. Stevie-A-Bear

Yes sdm slid silently away a few years back knowing fine well what was ahead but whyte even if he was sdm front man done the dirty on a few other things like the arsenal shares probably to take his burd oot skiing its a wonder he didnt start in the trophy room and then managers office by selling the old typewriter at jessie st car boot sale doug

@9 so your more made about losing those shares (which was dumb) then losing your club entirely? i know SDM and walter and others are heros to yous but they came that way by cheating and now has cought up and your club is almost gone, and you might say others new nothing about it but wake up a manager knows how the money is spent and contracts made. the true criminals to your club looks like they will be getting away with it.

10) No-one has been found guilty of any cheating....yet.

pappy

28 Mar 2012 13:02:53
If the other clubs do get an even spilt of the sky money does that mean instead of showing rangers an Celtic most weeks they will start showing more Hibs v St mirren games? Well they would have to wouldn't they ed? If you want the money spilt even then you would want the same coverage as the old firm, can't see sky going for that somehow, for a start why don't the old firm let the other clubs keep ALL their ticket allocation money for ibrox an the Lego shed, instead of taking 5% I think it is of them, also give rangers an Celtic fans another stand for the away support because we would do what they can't , and that is FILL the place. Do man utd get the same tv money as Swansea ? And do barca get the same as Malaga ed? Genuine Q , coz I don't no mate?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - no, the TV money is split equally in the UK, apart from there is a bonus for being shown, so Man Utd get shown more than Swansea and so get more money. Barca and Real Madrid negotiate their own TV deal, which is why the rest of the league there is a shambles and on the verge of collapse. Villareal will be offloading players like crazy in the summer, for instance. The Spanish league can't continue as it is, or there will be nothing there either.}

If memory serves ed ( which it often doesn't) have villareal and Valencia not had to do that a few times ? ( sell all their best players that is )
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - Valencia yes, Villareal have always sold players to fund spending, rather than to stay afloat. This summer they might lose Rossi for as little as 15m Euros, simply because they can't afford his wages.}

Can you tell me how the voting system works in England and Spain? Is it the same DEMOCRATIC system as in Scotland? {Ed001's Note - the 20 clubs in England's Premier League are members and shareholders with equal rights. Not sure about in Spain, I have not had a chance to look into that.}

ED,
I wouldn't say La liga is a shambles, considering it has team for team the best in the in the world.
Yes it's the same team(s) that win it most years but the English prem is just as bad.
After the spanking the English champions got home and away from a team who is lucky to qualify for the europa league, Please have more respect, just because the smaller clubs are trying to live within their means doesn't mean it is on the verge of collapse.
Teams from the EPL would do well to follow suit as the whole thing is a ticking time bomb.
Rant over
BR {Ed001's Note - the smaller clubs are not trying to live within their means, clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. They have been living beyond their means, trying to get within 50 points of Barca and Madrid every season, and now they are dying. Valencia nearly vanished completely, Villareal are on their knees begging for help, Sevilla, Betis and others are all in major trouble. In the past they would run to banks for loans, the banks are no longer able or willing to help them.
What is the relevance of your rant about them being better than the English league though? Bitterness just oozes out of your pores, obviously, or you would have noticed I have made that exact same point and that the English league is struggling too. Typical of the attitude that prevails in so many which is why your teams are so unwelcome in the English Prem. You have nothing but hatred for the English and then wonder why you are not wanted by them! Grow up. Then when you do, you can come back and discuss it without the childish bitterness and delusional rantings about how crap the English teams are when it is not even relevant, nor is it being disputed.
Oh and you would know of a few English teams that did try and follow the example set by the smaller La Liga sides, they would be Leeds, Portsmouth etc. Teams like Stoke are the example to be followed, they do live within their means.}

28 Mar 2012 12:26:38
Just been browsing , first time on for the day , Ed001 what is wrong with you today mate? It should be me snapping , I'm p!ssing 30 tomorrow! Come on ed you can't really believe Scottish football does not need the old firm and our fans money, you are right in saying without the "big two" the league would be competitive , unfortunately mate that would be competively (spellcheck) sh!t mate!
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - doesn't matter, there would still be a league, a league that would gradually grow in strength because it would be worth watching for fans of all the teams, not just 2 teams.}

@ed , fair point as usual mate ! Well if the rest want to be treated equal that works both ways ed , how can my mate go to a Caley v HIBS game an pay X amount to get in , then the next week I go to caley park and get charged TRIPLE X amount, just because our clubs make more money ed doesn't mean our fans do mate?
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - I agree with you, that is wrong and the practice should be banned. It happens in England as well, they have different category matches depending on the team they are facing. It needs to be banned, there should be one price for every league match.}

To be fair policing costs at games with the OF are higher. I can only speak for St Mirren and tickets are dearer against the OF but not 3x I think normal tickets are £20 and OF matches £24

28 Mar 2012 11:38:48
Has big Laugherty been sniffing the glue? They blew a 15 point lead before the turn of the year and he's quoted as saying "when the going gets tough, we're always there and accounted for", well you certainly are accountable for that Kylie and if that makes you the best team, crash on big man! .....priceless!

Benedict

He is right

Lafferty is right.....10 green bottles etc...

Truth hurts celtic have been on the field but embarrassingly not off it

28 Mar 2012 11:32:49
Okay, the Other 10 spl clubs want a more equal share with the sky money. What a joke!!!
You will be lucky if they conjure up 300 viewers to watch their teams whilst the old firm provide sky with MILLIONS of viewers for their games.
Whats the league coming too?
I recon each subscriber should state on their contract which team they support and that money goes to the club the viewer supports.
Lets see what happens then Mr Hibs chairman! {Ed001's Note - how is it a joke? Stop being so damn greedy, you wouldn't even have had a league to win all your trophies without them! You already get bigger gates than them, how much more do you want?}

The same thing happens all over Europe. Spain, England and Italy, the bigger teams always get more of a share in TV revenue. Why should scotland be any different

quabba

Scotland should be different because Scottish football is bad enough. It's borin to watch and the title will only ever be contested between 2 teams. I'm more than happy for the other teams to get more funds if it helps make the league more competitive.
GCUK

I'm pretty sure the OF game last season drew the second highest viewing figures on Sky after a Man Utd v Liverpool game. No London, Merseyside or Midlands derby came close....that says to me that when Rangers play Celtic it's not just Scotland watching, there is a demand in England for the OF game.....Can't imagine Hearts v Hibs or Aberdeen v Dundee Utd attracting interest from beyond Scotland!! This proves the OF are the teams who generate interest in our game and in turn generate TV money.....Why should these other clubs get more if we're the ones who draw viewers on Sky??

J1985

The league in Spain is only between two teams every year. Other teams getting more funds wont make the SPL any more inviting to better players. It works both ways, the more you are willing to pay out for players the higher the clubs bills become ie wages

quabba

The only club that wont vote for this is Celtic.
Because it weakens their position.
Agreed under the old system RFC&CFC would never have voted for this in a million years.
With Rangers possibly being weakened for a wee while,Celtic would be in pole position to cash in,as nobody really is going to challenge them. They have a young team but high earners, but they need to strengthen for Europe.
It would be interesting to find out if Peter Lawell (post climbdown from needing Rangers) offered Rangers a deal as well? If we are to accept that the Kilmarnock comment is true.
Oh the shenannigans. Stevie-A-Bear

28 Mar 2012 10:12:50
If we are lead to believe Celtic play attack flowing football and rangers play boring negative football why is it after 30 league games Celtic have scored 3 more league goals than rangers? Not exactly barca style?

Spot on way this post

Younger, stronger, fitter
playing like Barca
would easily live in the EPL
we would have caught the Gers anyway despite their (hopefully short term issues!)

and THEY actually believe all this shoite!

So you are saying that Celtic have scored more goals then? does that not make them more attacking??

And how many pen have you lot have to help yous? after all 3/4 of jelivic was pen where they not?

Reply number 3 does it make Celtic barca the way some of your deluded fans think? 3 more goals in 31 matches, hardly barca is it?

Yes...Celtic have scored more goals! Thanks for pointing that out....Genius!..Who excactly were you trying to wind up in this pointless post?

28 Mar 2012 09:52:55
Scottish Sun reporting Craig Whyte wishes to return and control Rangers future. D&P leaks this gem but say they don't believe he has a say on Rangers future. Who do we believe? I think it's smoke screen and they're in it together.

He appointed them ! Wake up ! Of course they are bed fellows. Playing the fans for impudent mugs

@1 , WRONG , they were COURT appointed, they were whytes preferred ones, there is a difference mate
PaulRFC

Paul wrong again rfc

Disagree all ya want ya numptys, everything in (2 is FACT
Paul(stroll on 21st of April)RFC

There's sod all difference. Out of the 1000's of admin companies the court picked duff and duffer at random. Court appointed technically at Wyhtes behest. IF YOU CAN'T SEE THEY ARE PLAYING US ALL FOR MUGS WORDS FAIL ME

Yes mate COURT appointed , so how can I be "wrong"... but in your planet you want them OUT, after saving all jobs at the club, earning the respect of all our players, doing the hardest admin job in the history of football in front of the whole world you still think their dodgy an want them out to be replaced by a firm no-one at the club nos or none of our "potential bidders" have spoke to ? Am I the only one who thinks our two main lads are doing everything they can?
PaulRFC

Playing us for mugs by keeping our top players an getting them to take a 75% wage cut? Interesting definition of the word mug then

Just get your shovels back out lads and dig a deeper hole in the sand for your heads. I'm I the only bear who can look at the facts and see we are being royally conned. It gives me no pleasure at all but unless something happens soon we are dead in the water. Cuts are needed. Not nice but realistic. Every accounting professional hasn't got a clue why d and d have failed to act. Look beyond the sound bites lads before its too late.

Paul....you are wrong....take it like a man and just admit it! You dont know how the administration process works or clearly how you go about putting a company into administration.
I will explain one thing to you though....Rangers were 90 minutes away from having the court appointing HMRC's preferred administrators rather than CW's preferred choice of D&P. CW almost shat himself to prevent that from happening...why? because he now has an element of control over the administration process...his friends are across the table!

@9 oh aye your an expert on admin are ya? Who have ya looked at ? Dundee ? A few lower league English teams ? RFC is slightly different from them with all due respect,I've got my opinion on our admin team an you have yours on them, time will tell, an if they do screw us over I will be "man" enough to admit I'm wrong, but untill then...
Paul(looking to get a job with D&P)RFC

28 Mar 2012 09:20:36
Found this quite amusing Lads.

Sunday's victory over Celtic was only the beginning of the good news for Rangers.

Bear with me. This story has not strayed from the football pages. It is about psychic prognostication, as you will see from the Mystic Meg quotes I have just made up.

Meg gazes into her crystal ball and says: "I see men in blue on a bus without a roof passing through the streets of Glasgow." Surely not Rangers, I ask? "Yes, on an open-top celebration of a magnificent double. They have won both the big tax case and the wee tax case," says Meg. "That's nearly £65 million the club has saved. Chairman Craig Whyte is receiving rapturous applause from the supporters lining the route."

I ask for a second opinion from Ruth the Truth, Evening Times mystic of yore. "Aye, Craigie boy is a big hero," confirms Ruth. "Turns out his plan was to squirrel away the Ibrox money so the tax man couldn't get it. The PAYE, the VAT, the season ticket money, and other stashes of cash really were just resting in Mr Whyte's account. That's how Rangers will manage to pay the creditors and avoid liquidation."

Anything else? Well, there's Helicopter Sunday when Rangers win the league at Celtic Park. Craig Whyte gets hit on the head with a pound coin and recoups his expenditure on buying the club.

Haud oan, what happened to the deducted 10 points? Rangers got them back.

Lord Williamson of Brigton rules in the Court of Session: "Come on, FFS, the 'Gers were never really in administration. Think about it. It was a misunderstanding. We are the people. Lol."

What about Craig Whyte not being a fit person to run a football club? A case of mistaken identity. That was a Craig White.

Anyway, the crystal ball says Mr Whyte will pass the club entirely into the ownership of the Rangers fans. They will vote for Ally McCoist as a hands-on president.

Walter Smith will be back as manager.

Good news for Scotland is that Rangers and Motherwell will both progress to the group section of the Champions League. Scottish Cup winners Hibernian will do well in the Europa League.

How about Celtic? They will make a bright enough start in the English northern premier league. Apart from a 5-0 upset at home to Whitby Town.

Well if they get gubbed at whitby theres a smashin ( as big dj would say ) fish and chip there where they could con sole their humiliation

28 Mar 2012 02:57:08
Andy Geggan from ayr utd to rangers this boy is Gd and a bluenose through and through

28 Mar 2012 01:06:28
Ok I do not pretend to be an expert on contract law and I am more than sure that there will be others far more qualified than me on this matter .... however the whole issues with Ticketus and CW is based on a contract, which by definition is:

• Agreement (comprising offer and acceptance);
• Intention to create legal relations;
• Certainty; and
• Consideration.
The only area that I can see that seems to me a little dubious is in how it was formed, part of a legally binding contract is that there has been no misrepresentation to make the contract non binding:
"one of the parties may have deliberately misrepresented certain facts
to induce the other party to enter into the contract;"

So my question and I am sure this has been asked at a much higher level and by people with a far greater comprehension of the law is, did CW " deliberately misrepresented certain facts" to enable the deal to go through

Just thought id put it out there as a lot seems to be hinging upon the legality of this deal for our buyers

Cheers
Kiwi Scot

His proof of funding document was believe it or not Unsigned by Collier Bristow (Whytes lawyer) Gary Whitey has a lot to answer for hence the Lord Lucan act.He also broke the 2006 financing laws