Rangers Banter Archive November 27 2014

27 Nov 2014 22:16:29
Interesting news on bbc sport Scotland website agm 22nd Dec, propose new share issue to raise 8mil among other things.
r. f

More money to waste, or should I say pocket, this club is a prime example of how not to run a football club.

I will never go to another game Rangers died 3 years ago.

28 Nov 2014 09:36:51
Again were is the money they are suppose to be pocketing? Accountants wouldn't. sign accounts off if they couldn't account for every penny, there is no cash because there is no cash coming in, whyte & green stockbridge all left some time ago. If you believe Rangers died three year ago why do u bother commenting about them and the finances as in your eyes they don't exist.
r. f

@2 there are ways to legally siphon money out of a club and accountants would sign it off if it was legal ie paying each other over inflated wages giving each other bonuses for this and that giving each other massive pay offs when they leave these vultures are not daft mate they got megga rich by being unscrupulous but by staying just inside the law

@3:Correct mate, millions was used to pay all these "consultant" fees, but legally a service has been paid for and it is nigh on impossible to prove any wrong-doing has occurred. This trial might shed some light on some of it.
I do think now though, it will not be anywhere near as bad as under Green, Stockbridge etc, purely because as rf stated, that money is gone and nothing is coming in now.

Unfortunatly the accountants put this little ditty in to cover their backs :
Comments from the club's independent auditor, Deloitte, added: "The group requires additional funding to continue to meet its liabilities as they fall due.

"The group has made key assumptions in relation to its ability to secure further funding in addition to the timing and value of season ticket income, increases in matchday income and sponsorship, the timing and value of dividends and further cost reductions.

"These conditions around the need to secure further funding, along with the details provided in note 1 of the financial statements, indicate the existence of a material uncertainty which may cast significant doubt over the group's ability to continue as a going concern and therefore that the group may be unable to realise its assets and discharge its liabilities in the normal course of business. "
In other wards,, we think they a bad bet but they assuring us there not? but we want nothing to do with it. and as such we are out of here.
There is nothing remotely good about this or previous accounts no matter which way people gloss over them. Yet another blame the fans etc for boycotting season tickets nothing about the "the great club robbery" we have had to endure since Green etc got their claws into us.
More money for??
Enough is enough the begging bowl scenario is becoming a monthly bloody ritual.

27 Nov 2014 18:59:37
BBC website reporting in last half hour that Craig Whyte has been held at Heathrow Aiport having been refused entry to Mexico and returned to the UK. Apparently a court appearance in Glasgow is scheduled for tomorrow (Friday)

Is the OP an ED? Why no username?

{Ed039's Note - No not an Ed, probably a glitch, will ask the powers that be why that happened)

Hope he lands in the bar l or the kilmarnock hilton and gets his just desserts

{Ed039's Note - Kilmarnock Hilton?)

Ed - I started using Firefox browser 2 or 3 days ago hence the possible glitch. I'm DOIGER

{Ed039's Note - OK mate, I will let them know that because your name hasnt appeared again on this post. Cheers mate)

Bowhouse prison boss

27 Nov 2014 13:27:16
Mccoist says he no intention of leaving that's because he only think of himself & his £400,000 wages.

27 Nov 2014 15:43:08
It is sad but everytime I see McCoist face now I get as wound up as I do with Whyte and Green, he is a liar and as bad as both. even today immediately got to chip in he will be glad to give evidence. hmmmm Ally maybe if you had stood up to Whyte or Green or Mather or Easdales etc etc back then we still might care what you say Ally . Rangers will never move forward under him and the muppets. I dread the potential of the Celtic scoreline if they go out to make a killing we could lose 10 if that hearts team can do us 2-0. I pray for a cup tie tight game low score. george

27 Nov 2014 16:31:30
Yes ally bought into whytes ideas but so did the fans who read what he was going to do along with the 50,000 who cheered and chanted his name at ibrox he also gave green his backing but again so did thousands of fans who read and listened to what he had to say whilst buying season tickets outside ibrox. hindsight is a wonderful thing.
r. f

@1 perhaps it's you that's the muppet, the guy who tried to start the revolution and found that he only had five or so followers so never even introduced himself.

2. ) My mind must be playing tricks with me. I remember a huge majority of bears not trusting Green one little bit until Ally decided to get right behind Green and tell everybody what a great guy he was.

Suddenly queues for season tickets appeared. All down to Ally the legend.

Derek Johnstone says he was disgusted that his pal ally got abuse on Saturday, another ex player who won't say anything against him, this is from a guy who last 30 days as Patrick th manager. ally go.

Jyf: That is a bit harsh, most people, I'll include myself, were quick to poo-poo most of what george had to say in the early days of this debacle. It now transpires that most of it was correct with more to follow at this trial. You say he is a muppet because he had a go? He's a muppet because no one listened?
The man spent a lot of time and money handing out leaflets, trying to get people to listen. He is far from a muppet in my opinion anyway.

@6 good post, and you are right but what I am saying is George started off with something to say then got lost and now resorts to silly personal insults to our management team which does not do him justice. George's message at the start was that we were being ripped off no more or less and I already knew that and no one has come up with a viable suggestion as to what we can do about it.

Jyf: Correct mate, I've been known to dish out and receive insults myself.
Its part of the reason we are divided as fans. I agree that personal attacks on McCoist are futile because it seems we are stuck with him, although I would like to see him replaced personally, as do most of the fans going by this site, various polls and other forums. The problem is coming up with a viable plan to move forward. The attacks on McCoist will continue, that is just a fact.

27 Nov 2014 08:35:57
the long arm of the law has caught up with whyte in mexico they must be meaning buisness after the trouble he has caused club I would go and bring him back myself he probably have to be formally extradited

27 Nov 2014 11:15:28
Finally will this mean justice for rangers? And what about Charlie boy and all his cronies will they be having a few twitchy moments at the thought of whyte coming back and singing like a canary

Glad Whyte has been arrested and hopefully truth will out. I don't really understand any of this but if the sale to Whyte was fraudulent can that have any positive repercussions for us? Would we be due any money or compensation? For the club not Murray as I think he still deserves much of the blame? Ae there repercussions for who does or does not own the assets? Is that why board won't give guarantees re loans? A script writer couldn't make this stuff up and believable!

Stefreid: No expert myself on this, don't think there will be any monetary gain for us as is, but by all accounts it will be a big trial with lots of witnesses and productions. SDM and Mr Smith have been allegedly cited so you can be sure there will be lots more. When its all over we will have most, if not all the answers we seek.

27 Nov 2014 15:33:45
Anybody that knows my past posts knows I indicated there were 'others' involved in the planning of this fraud and the fraudulent handing over to Green by means of accused Fraudsters Duff and Phelps.
The main instigator in all this was Andrew Ellis he tried o do the scam a year before and failed it, was only when Green/Ahmad/Stockbridge got together with Ellis and Whyte that they managed using Withey at Collier Bristow to 'fabricate' a good enough looking package to "Dupe" Murray and allow TSB to get what they desperately wanted. The lack of adequate due diligence was a total disgrace as this deal would never have made it through any normal due diligence proceedure for a deal of this size involving an institution such as Rangers FC and multi millions. That apart the complete process from beginning to possibly even now is founded on a massive fraud and this will potentially turn out to be the largest ever fraudulent scheme in the UK, the figures involved for 'missing' un accounted for funds is over 50million pounds

Hoping 7 to 10 year sentences are handed out to all of them.

george

"Justice for Rangers" how does arresting a cretin bring justice to our team.?
Everything done unfortunately was done in the name of "RANGERS".
The people in charge the owners etc are in effect "Rangers" so anything done be it win cups, give out to charity's etc etc is done in our name, not the people at the top? if there is nasty stuff to come out its all been done under the "Rangers" banner in our name?? so don't start that justice nonsense, we sat back and let this shower of,, crap besmirch the great name of Rangers us the fans we clapped them in we sang their praises?? until we weren't happy. No change there unfortunately. and will most likely do the exact same again and again.

George I applaud your apparent knowledge of this debacle. I like probably all bears would like to see those persons jailed for how ever long. but how does this help us just now. for me this only adds to the already gaping wound that is Rangers. i'm afraid it's the fans who ultimately continue to suffer through this whole sorry saga. we are a laughing stock both on and off the park. unfortunatley we will still be in the same position even if guilty verdicts are handed out to those involved. we will still have a manager who is completely inept, a team which is probably the worst I can remember and fans squabbling amongst ourselves.

George - you went on at length about the long game and the stadium robbery so what's Happenin with that?


JG