Rangers Banter Archive November 27 2012

 

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27 Nov 2012 23:57:40
ELGIN CITY have been heavily fined.l
The Club have been ordered to pay a fine of £25,000 to The Scottish Football League, £5,000 of which will be donated to a charity chosen by Rangers F.C.

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Curious as to why the police warned fans not to turn up intoxicated before cancelling it a short time later . . .

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@1 maybe it was because fans would have been refused entry if they were blootered!! its a long drive up to elgin and a big carry oot is required

JG

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@1 what? I don't get your post at all. It's illegal to attempt to enter a designated sporting event whilst drunk and is an arrestable offence. So, like the other guy said I would assume the Police warned fans not to turn up drunk as it is a long travel distance and you could find yourself getting he jail. Simple as that. You sound like one of the paranoid Celtic fans who always bleat on about conspiracy theories.

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@3 lol I think it is rangers fans delving in the conspiracy theories nowadays!
It's aw jus a big consparacy agenz Ra peepuls

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27 Nov 2012 20:38:35
Elgin get £25k fine and to pay Rangers costs.
AJM.

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Do the costs include the fan's and supporter club's out of pocket expenses?

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What about the wee japanese reporter? they should pay his costs as well

JG

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@2,

How do you know he is wee?

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27 Nov 2012 19:18:19
Now that Stephen Thompson has resigned from the SPL board due to professional differences 1 week before talks on nreconstruction. Conspiracy theorists would say that after his statement thar Rangers would not get fast tracked up the leagues maybe these talks now involve Rangers. Personally I don't like the idea but if that's what it takes to save Scottish football then so be it. ��

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Thomson hated rangers im glad hes gone we dont need that in our game

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Have you looked at the spl table recently.2 points seperating the first 6 teams.you cant get much more competitive than that.your new found club is not needed after all.

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Good ridence. As a club chairman ina position of resposibility he should have been more elequent in his choice of words. Mr Dermot Desmond who showed his class and dignity in all this could teach him a thing or two.

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Thomson seemed to have a hidden agenda with Rangers and particularly, the fans. Cast your your memory back to the abandoned game a couple of years ago and his club's reaction. Also, were Dundee Utd. not the first spl club to propose the rejection of Rangers.

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@2. Competitive my erchie.......Celtic have taken their eye off the league at the moment due to their European adventures. Once that is put on the back burner, i imagine normal service will resume and they will romp away. From a two horse race, to a one horse race.

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Competitive? It's only like that cos Celtic have been shocking in the league so far and even with them being so bad they are still top of the league. Drastically falling attendances at Celtic park in the league and Lennon squaring up to the supporters it's clear u don't really like this competitive league. U should just admit it u miss us and the league has turned into a farce where bad team plays worse team and the standard gets lower and lower. I thought it had reached an all time low last season but clearly it's still falling

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@6 Celtic aren't grieving for the death of rangers.

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6) Why should the competitiveness of the SPL bother you? Your leader Charles Green has said he won't allow NewCo back into the SPL!

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The competiveness of the top division in our country should bother every football fan in scotland - it is out "show piece" league - where 'the best of the best' in scotland play. Teams arent percorming any better than any other season - they are all just really poor. And once celtic get the finger out the gap will be embarassing

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Post 2, " your club are not need at all " , except when it came to tv deals, they wanted to have rangers games live, or pull out or have cheaper tv deals, falling attendances in spl, empty grounds in spl ( remember sell out sat, lol, what a joke), no money, clubs starting to report shotfalls in income, talks of reconstruction to game( what they really mean is "how can we fast track rangers to the top league") , sadly for the obssesed who dont want to admit it, rangers are scottish football, silly obssesed !!

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Ha ha, nice try. Even you don t believe that though do you. Aberdeen now £16m in debt, are they the next team to go tits up- would not cry, almost as despicable as celtic fans. Celtic will romp the league, but lets not kid ourselves that the standard has improved.

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@7 where in my post did I say Celtic were grieving for Rangers? Where do u get that from? My point is that had Rangers been in the league Celtic would not have dropped all these points and u r missing a genuine challenge for the title. @8 think you will find I am entitled to have an opinion on the competitiveness of any league and am free to express it. Unless u think different which says a lot about the type of person u r

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Forget all this nonsense about the league being i.e dead, more competative etc.

fact is rangers and in 4th tier, while celtic in top.

standard in both are poor. obviuosly the standard in 4th tier is a lot worse.

why cant both sets of fans just concetrate on thier own team

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The SPL football standard has been in decline for years now (TBH, we are punching above our weight), with the exception of a very few players, the standard we can attract is nowhere near what it was - Larsson, Laudrup, Gascoigne and Moravcik are distant memories (Good memories, i'll give u that) and it is a fact people are going to have to accept. The Money is not there anymore, and the highest quality players go where the money is (It ain't here) - Mercenaries - that's what they are and i have no qualms with that, after all, they are making a living.

Whether certain fans like it or not (or fail to admit it) you cannot, not have Scotland's biggest club from the SPL and expect everything to carry on as before, either financially or footballing wise. Something HAS GOT TO GIVE , and if they don't get this league reconstruction sorted out sooner rather than later, (it's time to stop all this nastiness towards each other) some fans's beloved clubs are going to go under. Certain grounds are struggling to get people through the turnstiles, after all the bluster about "Sell Out Saturday" - reality bites now, Rangers fans are coming out in droves to support the team which is great to see, but personally i have a sneaking suspicion that it has more to do with sticking two fingers up to the beaks at the SPL/SFA. It could also be that we have been given a wake up call and have rallied around the fact that we have to get out and support Rangers now more than ever, Rangers needs us and we've followed!. Maybe Both reasons, who knows as fans have their own opinions and that's just mine.

It's not the same without the Old Firm game, looking forward to a Monday at work giving your opposites pelters (if you've won) and letting them stew for a few days, Ahh happy days. That i miss more than anything else, getting one over on each other(friendly banter of course), and no matter how many old firm fans decry each other for this and that, we ALL miss the derby game. bigbaz

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I thought the spl went stale a long time ago. Had a season ticket up until 2006. Dont miss the games one bit- don t miss the near 500 mile round trip either. Always be a fan, but it would not bother me if I never saw another game live. The spl is a joke and has been since its inception. We got some decent players at the beginning, but heading south ever since. There probably is more interest from the clubs chasing 2nd, but would not say the standard has raised.

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See all this talk of league reconstruction, how is increasing or decreasing the league going to make it better, Scottish fitba has been p1sh for years and its only recent years that the old firm are in Europe after Christmas.
The only way forward is to try and bring through pre teens, teaching them proper living, training etc

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@16. League reconstruction today is more about financial stability for clubs by better distributing of any monies throughout the leagues. I know Rangers were part of the problem before, but now they have the chance to be part of the solution. I can understand the SPL wanting to make sure their teams get the lions share, i.e bigger clubs/sponsorship revenue etc. (Winner of 1st Div gets £68,000, bottom SPL team gets £750,000 - spot the difference?), but there is a different dynamic now, mainly that Rangers have given the SFL 'publicity and muscle' in relation to sponsorship/tv deals etc - and David Longmuir (SFL Chief) wants a slice of the action. Whatever league reconstruction is decided upon, i do not want any favouritism towards our club - we work our way up fair and square, just like anyone else. bigbaz

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27 Nov 2012 14:57:12
Celtic fan here I know there is a big petition to HMRC but what puzzles me is this Its all over all the rangers pages the RST but the OFFICIAL Rangers page seems to be having nothing to do with it at all??

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The new Rangers have nothing to do with this, it was old regime. Why would they stir up any more problems, in a no win situation. This is more likely to cause HMRC to appeal.

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27 Nov 2012 00:48:43
If any right minded Ger has not signed the e-petition to have our horrendous mistreatment questioned in parliament, get it sorted now and send it to all your pals. If we can get 200,000 fans in Manchester for the final, we can get 100,000 to sign this bad boy. About the only productive thing to do with this fiasco at the moment.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/42143

Big D

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Could not agree more, come on guys for the moment only around 23500 names, let us get it going.

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27 Nov 2012 16:29:58
If you read the petition, it says the payments were all legal. They weren't. Why would I sign my name to something as ridiculous a this? People jumping about as if rangers have done no wrong. They have. Maybe not as much as everyone all thought, but they still did use some ebts illegally. Hmrc had every right to investigate it

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Shame poster 2's comments aired too much on the side of sense and fact. The disagree button will be going into overdrive lol. Maybe if they got someone who finished school or was at least not still at school to write up the petition then someone might take the thing seriously. You could put 500 thousand names to that and HMRC would still laugh at it when its worded as biased as that.I'll be honest, i dont think a petition is a stupid idea, if someone is diplomatic and intelligent enough to word it properly.

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Why do you think green is playing hide and seek now ?? be careful what questions are asked

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@2 Well thanks number 2. I went and read the petition again. I could also check that my email address had been used as I could not remember receiving an email back. Low and behold I had not signed the e petition, but had just joined a cause.
Anyway, that's it signed and the link activated in the acknowledgement email.
Now what were you saying? oh aye well that's up to you, timmy.

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@4 Green just issued a statement!

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I really think that if Rangers fans are going to petition the Government, of which I have no problem at all, then they should get someone with a bit more sense to do it. The petition states that an investigation has been going on for 3 years. Is it not the case that they were persueing Rangers long before that? My knowledge is that they asked Rangers as far back as 2004 for information and it was witheld, another fact the author forgets to add. Also, the petition only requests that the Government talk about it with a view to identifying the persons responsible for the leaks. Identifying persons? You've been there before. And in response to the the previous poster, it does look extremely bias. Surely this will not help. I predict this petition will have no effect whatsoever apart from making some Bears feel righteous fighting what is now a futile cause during a period where they should just be looking forward to rectifying the situation. The old club died, a new one continues. Leave it be or the Government will open a whole new can of worms dragging the name of your club through the mire yet again.

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I am the poster of the piece below and make it clear that I think that HMRC have a lot to answer for, but not convinced this petition is way to go. What do they expect to happen with this, there is nothing to win. They are not going to reverse liquidation, they are not going to accept CVA, they are not going to reimburse what we have lost. There is no good that can one from this. I fear this will back HMRC into an appeal. They have shown they are out to get us and I say let sleeping dogs lie.

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As well as an orgaanised legitimate petition to Her Majesties Goverment. SDM has now indicated that his lawyers start an investigation into the leaking of private documents from within the offices of HMRC.

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HMRC were right to ask for their money back, even if, these were "loans"!

And the crass comment at the end is laughable, your asking for an investigation into who leaked information?

I seem to remember a Mr A McCiost asking for the names of the panel and that going horribly wrong for your club!

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Apparently the people of Manchester also have a petition on the go. It is to prevent a certain club from Glasgow never being allowed to cross the border again.! Hah. Think Barcelona want to see you again?

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@11 Well that shows you how popular it is if it's taking 4 yrs to get together and it's still going!

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