Rangers Banter Archive June 27 2013

27 Jun 2013 20:54:37
Rangers web site confirms a new coach at the club. and its available for funerals and weddings! Things must bad.

What is your point? If you are trying to be funny and/or wide, you have just scored an own goal--nameless wonder.
billyb

Yeah even the personalised WTP, so the knuckle draggers can hire it and you can even have Donald Findlay to do your sing along, how low can they go hiring the team coach out.

27 Jun 2013 22:51:45
Why has it taken a dutch bus for the penny to drop? Gone are the days when we could employ someone just to polish the little general's shoes.

Ok so they should just let the coach rot on days other than match days. That makes sense. Football is a business. Whether you make £100 from hiring out a bus for a day or £3 from selling a pie it's all money.

Jprfc

Were does it even say about renting the bus out, cause a can't see it in the official website

28 Jun 2013 07:54:06
@4 What you say is true, but itsthe fact that we need that money that's worrying.

One minute people are saying we're skint, the next giving the club a bashing for making use of its assets to generate cash.

I think renting out the bus is a great idea. Lateral thinking, we need more of it.

@4/ How will Rangers make money from hiring a bus out? They don't own it. The bus company are trading off the Rangers name and that looks tacky and small time. {Ed001's Note - unless they have done a deal to split any profits made? It is very unlikely a branded bus would be allowed to be used for anything else, without Rangers involvement in profit sharing.}

Agreed ED but their is no exterior branding on the bus. if as you say profits are split there won't be much in that pot. {Ed001's Note - I would think it more likely that Rangers get the usage of the bus for free, along with driver, in return. That is a few thousand a year saved, every little helps.}

28 Jun 2013 14:21:18
@8 It looks small time because it IS small time.

28 Jun 2013 19:40:16
@6.
Totally agree.

27 Jun 2013 20:06:08
Ed will the 1st competitive game this season be the Ramsdens Cup?

Larky Bear {Ed001's Note - good question, I honestly can't remember which way round it is, whether the first league fixture takes place or the first cup game. They haven't formalised the dates yet, so I can't even look it up!}

My Dad said it was so its probably not lol.

On a different note is this the most lacklustre performance Spain have put in for years?
Taking nothing away from Italy they've been excellent shame they don't have the best of there strikers available. Few dodgy subs also Montolivos an excellent player but Aquilani guys awful!


Larky Bear

Last year we played ramsden cup against brechin first same again this season,

27 Jun 2013 16:56:15
Anyone seen the pic of Stevie Smith (alone) in the new kit- on official site. Looks like he grabbed Ally's shorts by mistake.

Glad someone mentioned it mate they were clown pants man did anyone see the pic of Sheils with the old torn up mitre with the peeled off sections in the training pics from the other day embarrassing?

27 Jun 2013 13:38:02
More back-office redundancies happening right now - including loyal, long-serving employees. with RFC exercising their right to offer only minimum government redundancy packages. Bears do NOT be misled by all these signings because the books still do not balance. and despite the need to cut costs, the likes of Traynor and other waste-of-space individuals will survive the cull. let's see if RFC can hush this up.

Tried to post about this last night but for some reason it was not printed. Troubleshooter has been working hand in hand with Mr Stockbridge and this week the axe is about to fall on people who stood by the club and indeed lost money in the administration/liquidation. Hall of fame family members also facing the axe!

This if true is the kind of information this type of outlet should be used for (along with the transfer rumours of course) as the media have been found to be withholding stories and shying away from printing this kind of stuff. I am gutted for these people being made redundant at a time like this. I can't imagine how scary it must be to have to go and find a job when there just aren't a lot on the go just now and with bills to pay and families to feed. I see us linked with goalkeepers as a back up but why? Second division football is the ideal way to introduce a young keepers at home against the weaker teams. Its a wage wasted. Kello? even Gordon with his past injuries.

I would rather save the wage, get our moneys worth out of Cammy Bell and blood a young goalie when possible as opposed to people being made redundant from there jobs at ibrox. Just my opinion.

This is of course if this particular rumour is true.

None of these signings are 100% until 1st September, could all trickery to sell STs, I wouldn't put it past the type of people in charge at Rangers McCoist and Smith included.

This is very worrying & the fact that Stockbridge Ahmed & Green are all so obviously still pulling the strings disgusts me how can we remove these guys once and for all? Oh and Jabba how can we stand by as he takes our season ticket money honestly? Something needs done Ally's like a kid in a candy shop with all his new signings that's all that's been in his head since the embargo was put in place and not once has he stopped and said wait a minute we were playing to 50000 a few months ago & still losing a million a month sure they've got that all sorted eh ally?

There's also the added addition that rangers today have purchased a brand new state of the art coach from holland. something the must have cost upward of £100,000 if not more. Really scandalous that money is being spent on such things while we are laying staff off. Despicable. We're second division at the moment and this should be realised. Prudence in a time of austerity.

Folks, it is absolutely awful when people are made redundant, but sorry many of this have gone through it and it is hell, and unfortunately being football does not change things.

Appalling, yet still the masses flock to renew and talk about the exciting times ahead;drinking in the stories of signings that as yet haven't been signed or registered. Sometimes the ignorance within our ranks is staggering. Is it just a case of people being to terrified of the truth? Tommorow is deadline day for renewal and despite no less than 3 calls from Ibrox asking me if I want to renew my answer has and will remain no. The sooner we force out the charlatans that are using the Rangers name to fleece us for cash the better. Cannae believe there are so many who still haven't grasped this.

'5/ Rangers have not purchased a new bus. The company contracted to supply transport have.

@6 We're not just talking about people being made redundant. We're talking about people who didn't walk away in times of trouble. People who lost thousands when the club went into administration but through love of the club stayed only months later to be called in by the troubleshooter and told to reduce your costs, over and over again because they're putting your job out to tender. Where's the loyalty there - hope these people go to the papers!

@7. I have not posted on this site for a while now, the reason for this is mainly down to people like you Baybear and your two timposter mates on this site. your parents must be really proud of your pessimistic outlook on life. If you do not wish to renew your ST, then fine. The vast majority of real supporters WILL renew theirs, because unlike you they have faith and hope, when all you seem to have ahead is a life of doom and gloom. Are you suggesting these players will not be playing for Rangers next season? because judging by your post that is what you are alluding to. I look forward to your negative response, so that I and the rest of this board can ridicule you for the fool that you obviously are when these players take the field.

Ozzie Al

And do we know for sure that these so called redundancies were not voluntary? Not every redundancy is forced upon. Employees can apply for it at anytime!

@11 They are not voluntary hence the troubleshooter!

@11 - They are NOT voluntary. it was my original post. and I can also tell you RFC are attempting to enforce full non-disclosure on staff being made redundant despite it NOT being voluntary and despite offering them statutory redundancy of just £450 for every YEAR they worked for RFC.

Some very long-term serving employees going but one in particular could cause waves given the position he held within the club and access to info he had despite not being a Director but senior enough to know the s*** that's being going on!

If the Board had half a conscience including the Footballing Management Team they would forego all or part of their £360K bonuses for winning the might SFL3 title!

SPM

Ozzie Al- grow up you mug. Timposter mates?! What a child you are. If you hadn't noticed I haven't posted for ages either, mainly due to folk like you and your half witted moronic comments. Timposter, really?! Is that the best you've got? Get a grip. The evidence for Rangers being run by shysters is there for all to see yet I'm branded a Tim for pointing out the obvious. You and your ignorant kind make me sick. Who the fu&k are you to question me? How much cash did you loose in shares when the club was liquidated? When was the last time you were even at a game? Pessimistic about life? I'm pessimistic about our club because of the that are rotting it from the inside out yet mugs like you do f@ck all to stop it. What have you done to make a difference lately? Or are you happy that alls well? Just cause it has our badge attached to it doesn't make it all fine you muppet. For the record I'm not saying these players will never play for Rangers, I'm saying that ultimately they are unwittingly part of a grand plan. We will go into admin again, and when that happens you can be safe in the knowledge that your parents will be proud of your contribution to that cause. Well done with your blind loyalty oh grand Rangers man.

@10 & 14 children, children grow up! Would you mind keeping to the original post as this is something we have to keep highlighting. Long serving staff members who are now being shafted by the club and small business's who are about to take a second hit from Rangers and who will not survive second time around! Please, please keep this post alive!

@14. I lost approx 2 mill personally when Rangers went into Admin. Last game I was at was at Peterhead. As I now reside in OZ the only oppertunity I get is if I can take the corporate jet over for business in the UK. I still purchase five season tickets which I pass on to a childrens home in Glasgow for day trips for the kids. I have personally invested a significant amount into Rangers in the IPO and will be contributing significantly more in year 4 of the plan which should be more than sufficient for the purchase of quality players for the European journey.

27 Jun 2013 13:02:32
quite like the new strips and happy that they are now out there for sale, also quite happy that we have a foot hold back on the shop front, with the store opening at glasgow airport again. could never understand why the countrys biggest and most succesful club stopped the self promotion and publicity that these stores gave us to new and existing fans, i'm sure this has cost us revenue more than saved us over the piece!

Nice new strip but what is the £45 price tag all about? We are a second division club not an SPL club! I know we need to support our club financially but that's a bit steep for 2nd division.

@1/ The worst part is the club hardly get anything Green and Ashley have it all tied up in separate income streams.

If its too much don't buy one. We've been saying were the same club now since all the problems so why pay less for the shirt? If its the same size then it should be the same price whichever league you play in. I'll prob get all 3 over the season. Blue first of course. Always have.

N2 rangers get 51per cent of sale price

28 Jun 2013 10:14:02
There's no way the club will get 51% of the sale price - no club has a deal like that.

27 Jun 2013 11:12:33
Loving the new strips, much nicer than celtic this year, they had the better last year tho

Yeah cause they're really comparable.

Their kits may not look very nice to us, but their fans will like them and the quality of product Nike produces are so far ahead of Puma it's unreal. Celtic also get original designs each year whereas we are stuck with teamwear templates that Motherwell and Huddersfield have also got and that my Sunday league team could go out and buy.

Embarrassing if you ask me.

SCRSC

We could be wearing a brown hessian sack and it would still be nicer than Celtic's strip.

As long as it's blue, I'll be glad to see it.

And Celtic get a bigger cut of the money as well, @2 this may well happen if they keep spending all of the money the way they are.

When did a hooped strip every season become an original design lol

27 Jun 2013 10:00:19
the 3 new tops are belters I must say

27 Jun 2013 08:57:57
Hey guys the pics of the 3 new kits r now on the website, personally I really like the away 1, something a bit different.

27 Jun 2013 08:00:10
ed what's the laws on rangers in europe? if we win the scottish cup or the league cup not this season but next, that's 3 years, would we be able to play in europe, the same year we go back the the spl?



HAMILTON LAD {Ed001's Note - there is nothing to stop the club playing in Europe, so long as they meet the FFP regulations, which is where the 3 years accounts comes in. So long as UEFA can check that the club comply to the regulations, then the club will be able to compete. Mind, in a couple of years' time, the rules could be altered again!}

If this years accounts are not submitted on time it goes back to three years again. Why the delay?

Well rangers haven't submitted accounts for about 3 years prior to liquidation, so why were they allowed to play in Europe? Must be the friendly SFA/SPL signing them off again! {Ed001's Note - rubbish, read up, it is an FFP thing, which wasn't in place then. Paranoia is rife! The SFA and the SPL do not decide whether a team is eligible to play in Europe or not, it is idiotic in the extreme to suggest they do!}

One step at a time, no need to worry about Europe yet, it'll come. This isn't a race, when we get back, we'll be back for good.

@3 'it's not a race' has anyone told Ally that, where is he putting all these players? A bit like the old days if we buy them no one else can get them, a bit déjà vu!

@2 so how can they approve non audited teams then Ed? {Ed001's Note - they don't any more, that is whole point of the FFP ruling. Though how long it will be before someone points out that Real Madrid and Barca are only within FFP regs because they haven't paid taxes etc and so the rules are changed. Let's face it they will never ban either of those two from competing! Audited accounts are necessary, but they don't have to be produced now, they could be produced when the club qualifies.}

27 Jun 2013 01:03:46
I was told today that Goian was on £12k a week and Boca on £18k a week. I find that hard to believe but even if the two are £20k in total, the signings made so far cannot be on much more in total. I think Wallace will go and maybe another £10k off the wage bill.

12 and 18 make 30 not 20.

I posted over a while ago that Goian and Bocanegra would go and was given pelters. It amazes me how some fans are so far removed from reality. Their wages were always too high for Rangers and neither player wanted to play in the lower tiers of Scottish football. I also expect Wallace to leave too another big wage off the bill and a transfer fee although not a big one

Remember there will need to be a pay off to get them out.

@3)Both still under contract so no need for pay off both reportedly not wanting to play in second div, so either transfer fee however small or Ally's got his centre defence partnership win win deal for the club.