Rangers Banter Archive April 27 2016

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27 Apr 2016 17:26:24
Ed, what players can you see joining us this summer? Personally I can see M Beevers, D. Bentley, A. Gilbey, C. Hourihane, G. Stewart, A. Holloway and leaving Sheils. Law, Clark, Bell, Loan return Ball, King, Zelalem.

{Ed039's Note - Greg Stewart is the one I can see joining but he has a year remaining on his contract so wont be free and I don't know how much Dundee will want for him. There will also be a few loan signings but there wont be a huge outlay on players)

28 Apr 2016 11:48:49
expect McGovern from Hamilton replace bell
would not be surprised to see ball back next season
can see Holloway coming in as is cheap
also still hearing ziggy Gordon is also on the radar out of contract this summer
would not be shocked if we don't actually spend any money
this summer.

27 Apr 2016 22:43:02
Ed any interest in Murray Davidson?

{Ed039's Note - There is no interest in Murray Davidson due to his age and injury record)

28 Apr 2016 21:58:00
If Murray Davidson hadn't got that bad injury when we were in division 1 he would be a rangers player.

28 Apr 2016 14:01:57
I hope the management have a bit more imagination and can show that they are aware of players beyond the lost souls of English lower league and ex rangers players.

27 Apr 2016 19:47:11
Anyone else think Craig Gordon was being disrespectful saying Mckay's shot was a fluke? It wasn't just the shot everyone was raving about anyway, it was the way he danced past Broon in the process. Add that to the fact he was the best player on the park it all just makes Gordon look like a fool.
Think his strike against Hibs also proved it was no flash in the pan. Was good to see the wee man sticking up for himself and setting Gordon straight.

27 Apr 2016 20:24:11
Gordon always has too much to say for himself, wonder if he would have had it been another team that scored it.

27 Apr 2016 20:28:36
He has to be joking! A fluke? I must say I don't think I've seen a sweeter strike. Big gob full of sour grapes I think. We're coming for you next season pal. No class from top to bottom that club.

27 Apr 2016 22:41:37
The seeker

Big Bert Konterman struck the ball just as sweet in the semi final. Truly awful player that scored among the best goals ever at Hampden.

28 Apr 2016 07:30:51
Forgot about Bert's screamer. Couldn't believe it when it hit the net. An exocet!

28 Apr 2016 18:42:32
This from the same man who was happy to train with us n use our top of the range facilities no class anywhere from that club. Beaten by the better team on the day and the better club overall.

29 Apr 2016 17:58:20
A peach of a fluke though, pick it out craig
Nothin flukey with the penalties he had the chance to show he only gets beat with flukes and failed.

27 Apr 2016 19:35:33
Don't know if anyone else has asked this but will all our own guys who are currently out on loan be available to be pick for the cup final squad as the season for the club's their loaned to will technically be over and therefore their loan stints ended just incase we need to back fill our squad in any cases of training injuris or sickness ect but fingers crossed hope the whole squad are fine and the guys injured at mo are back fit and ready.

27 Apr 2016 19:51:30
Not sure how that works however I'm guessing most have maybe played for their loan teams in the cup this season and would be cup tied anyway.

28 Apr 2016 07:23:27
Difficult call to stick them back in squad for cup final when they have been await so long unless in emergency like Waghorn?

Although that said Ryan Hardie looks to have matured at Raith Rovers, man of the match award (? ) .

He looked a young "Kenny Millar". Would be a waste to lose him now and see his name be peppered on these pages as a future signing target in coming seasons?

28 Apr 2016 07:35:07
It would be good if we could even fill the bench this time. I must admit I felt like we were second class citizens with only 5 on the bench in the semi. Mind you I didn't feel like that after the game! Still think he could have stuck a couple of the young guys there if just for the experience.

29 Apr 2016 18:24:10
One thing we will never be is 2nd class citizens seeker, but young guys on the bench should have been a gimme, don't know why that didn't happen being on the bench v the dhims at a sc semi would have been some boost for a young player.

27 Apr 2016 19:23:55
Wilson has been around long enough, he will never be good defender, yes he Can play the ball out of defense, but I want a defender who can defend.

28 Apr 2016 14:03:39
Even Diego Godin would be made to look silly in our team at times. Need to defend better as a team not blame one or two players.

27 Apr 2016 18:47:55
Really hope we can pick up and start finishing and playing for the jersey very worried for cup final if last night is anything to go by.

27 Apr 2016 17:58:37
We ARE limping over the line, maybe not as good as that.

29 Apr 2016 18:39:06
we are already over the line Scotjo, form always dips after the league is won half the players are thinken about the final and not getting injured, but agreed when you hit bad form it can be hard to get out of, the tempo should have been kept high and go into the final with a winning mentality, I have to admit since celtic game the team have been pish, a wee bit worrying for me but it will work out it has all year.

27 Apr 2016 15:58:46
Not a rumour more of a suggestion . we are looking for some experience and someone who scores goals i reckon if he would drop his wages i would go for peter crouch he's a great target man but also very good on the deck . he would score a few for us i reckon and he's not getting game time at stoke.

27 Apr 2016 16:23:01
Hahaha,

Two nuns go into a bar, sorry thought we were telling jokes.

{Ed039's Note - hahahahahaha)

27 Apr 2016 16:42:31
Jfc end ed039 feckin brillian hahaha lol.

27 Apr 2016 19:05:20
You're having a laugh surely? What about young Hardie? If you are good enough you are old enough. I remember a certain young Jim Forrest in the 1960s and young Ally McCoist. Bring in Walsh, Murdoch, Hardie and Gasparatto. We've had enough of money-grabbing has-beens over the years.

27 Apr 2016 19:07:51
Almost as funny as Considine saying Aberdeen will put us in our place. that clown makes Ash Taylor look like Beckenbaur and we all know how bad Taylor is. really looking forward to playing the sheep worriers next season meeeeehhhhhh.

27 Apr 2016 19:38:38
In our place, does that mean he'll help us become champions?

27 Apr 2016 19:46:57
They couldn't put StJ in their place, either could we but our players don't spout rubbish.

27 Apr 2016 19:49:15
Hugh Jarse

Agree about Considine. He made more sense when he was dressed in woman's clothes doing that awful video.

27 Apr 2016 14:38:25
Just read some guys proposing Rangers v Celtic at Wembley. Can you imagine that? It would certainly raise the international brand awareness - for all the wrong reasons:-) . I can just picture the newspaper headlines the next day.

27 Apr 2016 15:53:15
Aye and there goes London and our chances of ever being considered for admittance to their leagues if we can't behave ourselves.

27 Apr 2016 19:49:57
I think London police might have a few things to say about an old firm game there.

28 Apr 2016 08:39:26
The Glasgow Bobby would be shipped down.

27 Apr 2016 13:34:55
Is it me or is Andy Halliday starting to believe his own hype` playing like a crab across the park no telling passes`hopefully he comes good for the final.

27 Apr 2016 13:56:40
The whole team looks tired and short of ideas not just one or two players. Dissapointed that the fringe players such as zelamam moh, law, shields, king have not really seized their opportunity to stake a claim for start in cup final- almost like they don't want to play.

There has been plenty of games throughout the season we have dominated the ball but not done enough with it, just seems that recently it's been more of a problem. We don't seem to know how to deal with teams sitting in. Better find a way quick as that's exactly what hibs will do in cup final and what the vast majority of our opponents will do next season- and they will be much better at it than likes of alloa and Livingston.

Like a lot of what MW has to say, but now is the time to show that he is capable of mixing things up and that he can evolve as a manager both in style of play and recruitment. It is also time for DK to back him in the transfer market. Filling squad with bargains from lower league English players who have lost their way will only take us so far- at some point we need to add some real quality and that costs money.

27 Apr 2016 16:29:47
Moh and King are cup tied.
Plus players from lower leagues - Vardy is a prime example if coached by the right manager - so you can get quality and not costing a lot.
In Warbs we trust.

27 Apr 2016 16:41:12
MOH and King can't play in the final, cup tied.

27 Apr 2016 16:47:06
Blue bear i agree that we are playing crap at the mo, but could this be a way of telling mr king and the board we are running on empty and we will need more, and better players next season, in other words we need money to bring in players for a tougher campain next season.

28 Apr 2016 14:06:49
Sorry forgot about those two being cup tied. But they should still be trying to force way into plans for next season even if can't play in cup final. Not impressed by MOH "putting feet up" quote- he's been a total flop.

27 Apr 2016 12:54:49
I think Knox all but sealed his move to us last night with the delivery for their goal.

27 Apr 2016 13:58:11
Not sure that's the case if you believe what the Livingston manager said today.

27 Apr 2016 14:00:59
Well one good performance from moh against us sealed his move. Said at time he wasn't good enough.

Can't really get too excited about signing a young player from Livingston, will be a couple of years before he will be ready for our first team, assuming he progresses- not all young players do, some get better some get worse some stay the same. Remember some of the world's biggest clubs fighting over Freddy adu?

27 Apr 2016 18:49:20
The leagues won plus nobody wants' to get injured &miss the cup final, just hope they pick it up again for final.

27 Apr 2016 19:12:41
I do get excited about good prospects coming to our Club Luigi, that's the future right there.
If I had my way Murdoch, Hardie and Thompson would have been the guys coming on at the hour mark every game in placed of Law, Shields and Clark.

27 Apr 2016 20:05:44
I remember a young lad coming to us from Raith Rovers that turned out to be one of the greatest football players in the world. I welcome any up and coming talent at Rangers.

Over the past we seasons, current season excepted, we have had to watch the biggest shower of overpaid under achieving wastes of a Jersey that have ever set foot inside Ibrox. Thank goodness that with Warburton we have a manager that looks to the future rather than the previous encumbrance that had no idea how to build a football team for the future.

The sooner guys like Law and Shiels are history the better. I feel sorry for Clark but he just doesn't have it. The other two are a couple of chancers.

28 Apr 2016 14:11:07
Recbob completely agree about Thompson, Hardie and Murdoch - I really think we have made a big mistake not giving these guys more game time, especially in second half of season. Hardie in particular could of played a role instead of loaning him. As for Murdoch he was our best player last season.

27 Apr 2016 09:26:46
I agree we don't want or need injuries but there is a 3 week gap between end of league campaign and cup final whilst Hibs may have to go through a number of play-off games. I feel for the supporters paying money and taking time off work to go to the Hibs and Livi game. Seems a few bodies alreafy have their minds on their summer holidays. The league is won. but over the next few games i'd be playing my heart out making sure i'm selected for the final, not downing my tools. Fingers out lads recent performances aren't acceptable.

27 Apr 2016 10:05:44
Disappointed with last three games can, t keep relying on miller, McKay and tav to get the goals so fingers crossed waggy is there for the final as I am getting concerned about our lack of cutting edge. maybe I, m being over critical after the season we, ve had.

27 Apr 2016 12:46:37
The last few results have been bad, there's no escaping that. But I think better teams than ours have let their foot off the gas with the league wrapped up and a big game coming up. I'm not reading to much into this, but I would still like to see a big improvement against St Mirren and hopefully Waggy back. He'll be bursting to impress after missing all the big games recently. We've missed him and Forrester badly.
I think the team have shown enough in the big games this season to trust them to win the Cup though.

27 Apr 2016 15:45:50
I remember several occasions when Sir Walter was in charge that we had the league sewn up and lost 3 or 4 of the last 5 or whatever.

As frustrating as it is, its not the end of the world. The Hibs game will take care of its self.

27 Apr 2016 14:06:42
Some of the fringe players have not taken their opportunity which is disappointing. Overall the players who have been mainstays look tired and short of ideas- understandably so due to our small squad and lack of rotation.

At end of the day dropping points against teams of alloa and Livingston standard is not good enough, under any circumstance. Don't understand how anyone can think we are serious contender for spl next season without a major injection of quality in summer.

27 Apr 2016 18:35:51
Agree completely luigi, and if ally was in charge everybody would be calling for his head in the same circumstances.

27 Apr 2016 20:11:32
I agree Luigi, you would have thought that Shiels, Law and Clark in particular would have been playing out of their skins to show that they warrant a new contract.

As for Billy King, I don't see him being at Rangers next season and I won't be too upset. I do not believe that he is good enough.

We must see a better standard of player acquired in the close season and I will be interested to see who the experienced players that Warburton is referring to and what positions they would be acquired for.

The two players that have been secured from Accrington Stanley appear on the face of it to be clever acquisitions but we need at least another four or five players of English Championship quality or higher to give us a fighting chance of winning the SPL next season.

27 Apr 2016 22:30:53
I can assure you if ally had won the league with x amount of games to go beaten smeltic to get to the final and already won a cup all in the style that we have played with such a small squad nobody would be calling for his head!

28 Apr 2016 14:12:26
We simply wouldn't have with him in charge. Hibs would be champs and we would be chumps.

27 Apr 2016 08:19:41
Ok I'm not ripping into the team after recent performances, although they haven't been good enough.
However I am unconvinced by O'Halloran. He has done very little of consequence in the games he's played and not sure he will.
I was all for bringing him in and still hope he comes good but I'm not sure where he will get a shout next season.
With Waggy and Forrester fit, Windass coming in and at least 1 more striker along with Mckay and Miller he seems somewhat surplus to requirements!

27 Apr 2016 08:28:45
Sick of the interviews after the game, yes warburton has done great but after the last 3 games it's the same old "we will learn from it"pi5h, clearly not learning anything, been utter pi5h the last 3 games!

27 Apr 2016 09:00:56
Think it's very clear that the defenders aren't learning from their mistakes and no matter which pairing it is the same goals are lost. I hope Warburton does learn and gets in another 2 centre halves. Ones who can defend and know how to mark opponents.

27 Apr 2016 09:11:46
I agree Forfarger for the most part but I thought his interview after the game last night was absolute class. Ripped in to the team and said there were absolutely no positives to take from the game. Even pointed out possession for the sake of it is pointless and cited Leicster as an example.

27 Apr 2016 10:10:35
I don't think we need 2 centre backs. 1 more is plenty. With our style of play a CB who can pass out from the back is essential. Wilson and Kiernan are good at this. They just need a bit of steel and someone to learn from. Both will come on to e great CBs in my opinion bit need a leader for now. Any more than one will limit their growing potential and block MWs much desired route to first team.

27 Apr 2016 12:01:28
First sensible post I've read re our centre half's. Firstly, both wilson and kiernan are young centre half's. Very few cb's have grown into the position by their age. Remember Craig Moore and the stick he used to take, but with perseverance and giving him time to develop, he turned into a top cb for us. Secondly, the way we play will always expose our cb's with both full backs bombing on and no recognised holding midfielder. It's a price we have to pay for watching attacking football. Finally, having players in this position who can pass and step out with the ball is essential to the way we play. Without this, you can't pass the ball short from the goalkeeper and subsequently you relinquish possession more often than not through going long, completely contrary to the philosophy that MW has instilled in our club.
Before shagging wilson and kiernan at every opportunity. try and understand the game.

27 Apr 2016 12:53:41
No wonder they're playing badly if they're getting Shagged at every opportunity Wilson0212😂😂😂
Sorry mate couldn't resist. I do agree with you though regarding the CB's. They've been left hopelessly exposed at times this year. I think Weir will have identified this and I'm sure there will be great efforts in the summer in recruitment and training to rectify it. A decent CDM will help and perhaps an experienced CB to hold Wilson or Kiernans hand for a while like Weir did for countless CB's in his career. Apparently he takes control of all defensive work at Murray park but I suppose he can only work with what he's got.

27 Apr 2016 13:27:42
I, m not convinced with Wilson too slow in my opinion not commanding in the air gets beat to often from set pieces and corners and why does he go up for our corners when few are put in the box, leaves defence open to counter attack. Him and Kiernan seldom get on the end of set pieces anyway, they should maybe stay back for all the use they are I might be a bit harsh on them but I want to see a better team and progress not conceding every game, I think Wilson will be on the bench next season. What do you think?

27 Apr 2016 14:03:11
Wilson0212

Sorry but can't agree about the centre halves. Just look at Leicester's 2 centre halves. 2 big guys who can challenge in the air and know how to defend. By no means are they the best footballing centre halves in the league and don't often play from the back but Leicester are great to watch. Defenders need to defend first and foremost and the goals we are losing are criminal. Really poor defending at any age and totally unacceptable.

27 Apr 2016 15:21:51
Biff I get what your saying but Leicester don't play the way we do.
Huth and Morgan are doing great but they have 2 workhorse midfielders in front of them in Drinkwater and Kante. Leicester do not get anywhere near the possession we do and their full backs are not as attacking.
1 decent CB and we will be grand. Crooks coming in at CDM will help us shore up at the back as he is 6'3 and will function as a 3rd CB when Wallace n Tav bomb on!

27 Apr 2016 14:05:58
Not harsh at all mate. If both your CBs are hopeless in the air you're going to struggle.

27 Apr 2016 14:10:52
Don't like this blame it on Wilson and Kiernan. We should be defending better as a team and be showing much more goal threat. Lacking ideas and look tired as a team at moment.

If we did something with the ball instead of pointless possession then we would be beating these teams comfortably like we should be doing. Our lack of goal threat gives these teams a chance they shouldn't have and puts pressure on our defence.

27 Apr 2016 16:09:17
Pish biffo. Leicester's style couldn't be any more dissimilar to ours. We dominate possession whereas they allow the other team the ball and hit on the counter. Huth and Morgan are supported by 2 defensively minded full backs and 2 industrious central midfielders. I would take our style over theirs every day of the week. They do prove one of my original points in that neither came to prominence until they were in their 30s.

27 Apr 2016 20:17:35
In my view we need one strong tackling solid in the air centre back paired with either Kieran, (who would be my choice) , or Wilson, and we need a solid defensive midfield player, and hopefully that will be Crooks.

We also need more quality in central midfield and attack although if Warburton is successful with this summer's recruitment policy and get his targets then I reckon we should be well placed for the new season. That, I guess means putting a bit of trust in the manager and he sure warrants it given the fundamental change in our team this season from what we saw in previous years.

27 Apr 2016 07:49:54
Would you take a punt on Ched Evans if he won his retrial?

Not heard rumours, was just chatting to a mate about it and am interested to see the general opinion.

27 Apr 2016 08:33:39
It will never go away from him now some folk will still have different views too much baggage the club don't want to be brought into all that plus from a football side he's not played for almost 5 years don't see why anyone would want him.

27 Apr 2016 09:10:04
Absolutely not.

27 Apr 2016 09:17:08
That won't happen as no matter the outcome of the re trial I doubt clubs will want to take a chance on him for fear of fan reaction. It's a fact of life that even if proved innocent people will still think there was something in it.

27 Apr 2016 10:08:11
Cheddar Evans are you mental what next rolf Harris for half time entertainment. The guy is a **** back he would be the first player in your side you would want the opposition to half. I wouldn't work next to a nonce certainly not have him in the team I love, ban him from football for life because these people abused their position.

27 Apr 2016 10:10:00
Someone will take a punt on him, but it won't be Rangers.

27 Apr 2016 09:26:04
Unfortunately mud sticks in our society. The guy may well clear his name but he's finished as a footballer at any decent level.

27 Apr 2016 14:15:53
Has original poster any idea over how long the retrial will take? Evans needs to worry about that rather than thinking about playing again.

Fact judge ordered a retrial rather than quashing conviction outright suggests he has serious questions to answer.

I'm saddened by how desperate some fans are. Why even consider this. Thought some fans wanting a very dubious character from chelsea was bad enough. What's next the ex hearts sex offender?

27 Apr 2016 17:56:11
Chill Luigi! Geez. I only mentioned him because there was a post about another player, Che Adams I think, and someone typed Che Evans by mistake in a reply. Got me thinking and thought I would see what people thought. Isn't that what this site is for afterall?

26 Apr 2016 23:57:51
You all need to chill out. I don't blame warburton. he's using these remaining games to see if we actually need these players that could potentially come back. Its good to see that we don't and there will hopefully be a clear out.

27 Apr 2016 07:44:55
People need to get a grip. The league is won. It's only natural for the players to wind down with the cup final looming. Would any of you want to pick up an injury? I remember going to Ibrox to celebrate winning a title years ago and getting humped 3-0 by the sheep. These games have no bearing on anything and it's important to get everybody through them unscathed. MW will have the team ready to do battle with Hibs just like he did against them.

27 Apr 2016 08:11:51
The Livi players have their own cup finals coming up in the play-offs. They didn't fear injury for what is crucial games for them. No excuses, simply not good enough. I'd tell the lot of them they're playing for their places against St Mirren or I'll play the 20s in the final.

27 Apr 2016 14:20:51
Losing to a team of Livingston standard and drawing against alloa isn't good enough. Simple as. Under any circumstances. No grip required. No need to chill.

Yes league is won, we should be beating these teams comfortably not limping towards finishing line. Especially when we have a cup final to look forward to.

26 Apr 2016 23:44:59
bears being a wee bit tough on the lads. HUGE game coming up in may and knowone will want a bad injury. maybe warbs should be playing some kids and resting some players who aren't cup tied.