Rangers Banter Archive June 26 2013

 

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26 Jun 2013 22:38:41
Rangers team for new season-gk bell/Gordon, rb foster, cb mcculloch cb zaliukas, lb Wallace, rm shiels, cm black, cm law, lm templeton, cf clark, cf daly, what do my fellow rangers supporters think?

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Why should black be in before Macleod?

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Maybe because a Mr Black is the OP. McLeod was just about the only good news of last season. I don't think Sheils did much to warrant OP's starting line up and we've yet to see how good Peralta is and maybe he merits more than the bench.

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Black would be in as a more defence minded cm, law and McLeod are more comfortable pushing forward I think

DJ

(not op by the way)

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26 Jun 2013 22:35:07
I'll try and post this on both sites.

Any chance we can get the "seat counting" rules established before the season starts? Is it
-numbers in ground?
-season ticket numbers included whether present or not?
-freebies included?
-include debenture holders?
-income generated?
-day of the week?
-kick off time?
-other needed expenditure in current economic situation?
(this list is not exhaustive)

or can the babies let the forum talk fitba'?

Paddy Malarkey

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Oh dear god please let it just be the football and the old fashioned banter about diddy signings and dodgy results. That attendance patter was woeful last season! Went way too far. Photo's of ibrox and Celtic park posted on FB and personter of half empty stadiums. Rank rotten patter.

I think we can all agree no matter what side if the divide you fall down on we can and should aspire to do much better this year.

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Ha ha nice one mm

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OP Paddy, I would be more interested in what the Partick Thistle attendances are going to be, rather than worry about Rangers/Celtic "seat counting" if I were you!

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The only reason attendances were ever mentioned because at every possible moment the tic fans claimed we would walk away and the fans were only glory hunters who wouldn't show up for third division football. We proved our doubters wrong.

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Totally agree that all the pathetic stuff needs to stop. It's childish and embarrassing. However it won't stop until Celtic fans accept what everyone else, including their own club, have accepted and that's the fact that Rangers are very much alive and well as is the Old Firm derby. Celtic need us, just like Scottish football needs us. Sooner they all realise that the better.

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The Celtic people I know already accept that Rangers are still around. You shouldn't draw your opinions from mad internet folk - they will say anything to get noticed. The bulk of Celtic supporters see us taking our lumps, so let's take it like men and not be distracted by wee arses on the internet.

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@3
To quote Alfred E Neuman
"What, me worry?" [1959 song]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mW5_QDkx-k

We'll be alright. The willing will attend - no need to drive us there for non football reasons (we'll see enough non-football). Problem will be next season when we get a bit blase'.

Paddy Malarkey

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26 Jun 2013 21:48:18
hi ed please post this as is starting to get to me
correct me if am wrong but we are under a embargo until sept 1st then why am I hearing develop the youth and there's not a good scouting system we can only sign free agents if we now put all the young boys into the team thers a good chance they will flop can only wait until this embargo is over to develop the young boys into the team properly and make the signings that we will have on our radar

Manderson R. T. I. D

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26 Jun 2013 19:12:58
Team next year
GK Bell
RB Foster
CB McCulloch
CB New signing
LB Smith/Wallace
RM Templeton/McKay
CM Macleod
CM Law
LM Wallace/Templeton
CF Little
ST Daly

Subs
New goalkeeper, Cole, Shields, Peralta, Clarke

Also Wallace would be my 1st lb, but could go lm, if he starts lb, Templeton should go LM and McKay should start on the right.

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I don't think we should "waste" the money on a good sub keeper. Promote the youth keeper to the bench where possible

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New signing at CB will be Wilson, New goalkeeper will be Gordon

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26 Jun 2013 21:25:36
whats the point on putting the young boy on the bench when he can go on loan and get some playing time that's why he wants to bring in another keeper cause bell will be number 1 and young scott wount get a sniff

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Scotts not the youth keeper, he's 24. The youth keeper wi be about 17. And he can be on the bench when the youth team aren't playing.

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26 Jun 2013 18:52:47
Darren Cole signs new 1 year deal was there when he got his debut & the only other time I seen him play was in a friendly in my local park where he was marking the wee boy fae doon the road played a blinder that night lol good luck next season.

Larky Bear

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26 Jun 2013 18:44:19
Two months ago I told you Ricky Foster was signing. the ed slagged me and told me not to waste his time as Foster had a years contract. Apolagy please? {Ed001's Note - I never said any such thing.}

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Well he did have a year left and we couldn't sign him, maybe if you said he will be released and we will sign him then poeple may have believed you. I still wouldn't have because I would have hoped we would have signed hateley before that dumpling! think were scared to sign young promising players incase someone offers us money for them! Would have took hateley just so we could see a proper set piece unlike what black does!

fauldsrfc

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26 Jun 2013 14:02:11
is there no pre season in the states or south africa

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I head there was a pre-season tour of Germany in the off for late July. This would be more in keeping with our budget at the moment.

I think the only confirmed fixture is FC Gutersloh on the 17th.

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Not forgetting FC Emmen on the 20th as well as a few more local matches.

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Ally stated categorically a few weeks back the pre season was USA and Germany. Sick of saying it.

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@3: highly unlikely now.

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26 Jun 2013 12:33:25
People seem to forget that it was under Green that the club were liquidated. Green played the "ENRON" too big to fail stance and lost. Blame Green for your status, under Whyte a CVA was possible. Green, offering 10p in the pound. He did not have a pot to pee in until he gubbed Rangers. Green is a rich man now - anyone for season tickets? Roll-up roll-up. free snake-oil with every ST.

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This is just going back over old ground. Green is gone, let's move on.

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No CVA was possible with anyone, hmrc had the last say and @1 your right old news man just move on

fauldsrfc

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@2/ Your wrong. A CVA was possible if HMRC were willing to accept a re-payment plan over time. They would have stepped aside and been dealt with in a separate deal. There had been a precedent set by them.

The problem there was that the spivs buying the assets would have had to wait years for their profits. They did not want that so liquidated.

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@3 if HRMC agreed CVA and 10p in pound, every business could cut thier tax bill by 90% by this route, and cut debts.

EVERYONE would do it - not just tax avoiders. ?

doh!

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Green told us he bought all Whytes shares in rfc for £1 plus £1 profit, facilitated by D&P. Then he put his crap CVA forward to creditors. The CVA failed under Green and RFC was fell into liquidation.

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@4/ Can you read? I clearly said HMRC would have removed themselves from the CVA list to cut a separate deal. This would have meant a much improved CVA offer to the other creditors, which would have been accepted due to the fact the millions owed to HMRC would have been removed. The club then would have had to pay IN FULL the small tax case, in which they had admitted liability, over a set period. Obviously this would have meant a few years in the wilderness. The money men did not want this. And by the way, anyyone with tax problems can negotiate a payment plan with HMRC, it is done every day. DUH!

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26 Jun 2013 12:25:04
with foster signing as well as others- we certainly are building (in my opinion) a good team and squad but. i'm still concerned about the overall funding of all these players wages. they will all be on thousands a week and with the exception of alexander, we still haven't really off loaded anyone yet. so with all these new wages, along with the current wages, we seem again tio be heading down that road of overspending on overheads with limited income. maybe i'm being to negative and I am sure that the board wouldn't allow things to go sour again. but how the hell are we going to pay all this?

going by all the rumours and what ally has been saying, there seems to be another couple of players still too come in (new keeper etc).

whats your thoughts guys?

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26 Jun 2013 13:50:51
It shows Ally has no confidence in his own management skills. A real manager in his position would have said I'll give the kids two years along with a few experienced heads like Jig and I'll win back to back promotions then we can sign more players when we're financially stable.

Much as I detest Craig Whyte I wouldn't disagree with what he says on that leaked tape about Ally. As a manager the guy just hasn't remotely got it.

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26 Jun 2013 15:02:00
Some of the players ally has acquired so far would not be an option next season for the big pish they would all be with new clubs under contract for another 2-3 seasons others he has signed are for the trip up the league's I say good bit of business with most the new players.

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Spivs happy to have more expense loaded so they can go bust again, and repeat the IPO.

we only need promotion, in div2 that's easy.

Ally trying to buy success in cups - do we really need the money from these runs (TV). but any failure in these cups (Ally history in cups!) and then saddled with far too much debt.

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Whyte on tapes is trying to run/save Rangers. He knows all players and thier costs.

Others just cowboys. don't care about fans, history. endless stream of money grabbing schemers.

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@ I would be surprised if Ally lacked confidence in any aspect. Perhaps he just puts it on for show then.

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26 Jun 2013 18:13:04
Anyone else notice the picture of foster in press being revealed as new signing. Not the traditional pose with scarf overlooking ibrox pitch. No, crouching there holding a made up t shirt with the message "ST deadline friday!" What does that tell us!d

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@6 it's telling me a lot of fans aren't renewing their s/t an am proud of the ones who don't this is the only way forward let's see if the fraudsters will put there money in a don't think so they think making these signings instead of answering the the questions the fans want answered would have got us to part with our hard earned cash

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If we stay strong and do not renew st and pay at gate then spivs will have to show their own cash

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@7. Agreed. A fan who pays at the gate. Is still a valuable fan who wants to oust the bad if the bad exist. It's the fans who do this that will ultimately save our club.

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Lets boycott the pay at the gate malarkey and that pb

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What's wrong with a shirt saying ST cut of Friday? What's the point of having a business if it doesn't make money?
It doesn't matter who's in charge or who's Manager nobody will ever be happy with anything at Rangers!
It's just the nature of the game.

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27 Jun 2013 07:50:27
@11 I think the point is that a cheap publicity stunt like that (and it was cheap, who the hell made up that tshirt!) has never been used or needed before when revealing a new signing. And shows that they're bricking themselves about low ST sales. No lessons have been learned. We're still prepared to spend more than we have on the risk that the fans will just 'follow the call' without our questions being answered.

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26 Jun 2013 11:59:31
Craig gordon would be a bad signing let the younger keepers fight it out.

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26 Jun 2013 10:30:03
Getting a bit pi$$ed off now ed I've not posted any bile or anything like that because it's not my thing I've not been able to get a post up for a week?

Larky Bear {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen anything from you to delete mate.}

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Thanks for the Reply Ed I think it may be my Phone it does say my Posts are sent but I don't think so seems to be better now thank you.

Larky Bear

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26 Jun 2013 10:18:11
More disturbing info in the papers concerning Brian Stockbridge! Is it not time this guy was punted?

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This beggars belief now Stockbridge is caught on tape tryin to sell shares to another fraudster I just hope fans like myself have not renewed their s/t as long as these muppets are there they can shove the tickets up the arse this is another of greens men now at it a really can't take much more it maybe time to give up here we're getting treated like mugs by the fraudsters and the so called rangers men who are earning money from our club for keeping silent the rst and rsa so much for having rangers best interests they quick to give a reply to the papers when they should be camped outside ibrox or giving a statement asking all fans not to buy s/t and also pure coincidence that green Stockbridge and Ahmad have all been caught on tape by Craig sh*te but yet a so called independent panel couldn't find any links between these fraudsters

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Indeed, however I'm equally disturbed by the fact that these conversations have allegedly again been
A. Recorded
B. Leaked onto the internet

Who is doing this and why?

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@1/ The way forward mate. As Brown said starve them out. Even if it took another administration the end result would be proper Rangers fans in charge. Walter and Ally need to ask themselves if they have done enough for the fans.
@2/ I would think it is probably Whyte mate. Fact is he sounds as if he really did want to run the club properly.

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@2 a personally think green ahmad and Stockbridge have recorded these conversations with all intentions of using them as their get out Claus with all pocketing a fortune for ther work and it's worked Stockbridge will be gone soon enough quite a cunning plan to make it look like it's all been Craig sh*tes work

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@3. Think you're right mate but it's a shady man who deals in the paranoid world of recording conversations for future use.
None of them are to be trusted yet some of my fellow supporters renew without question and still denounce Brown as a madman.
You'll often find in life that the guy who points out the elephant in the room is quickly branded unstable. Mainly because his honesty exposes the weakness in others and they'll do anything to discredit him in order to cling to their cushy number. This happens all too often in the workplace and Rangers are no different. The treatment of Brown and other like minded supporters in all this has been nothing short of disgusting and should never be forgotten.

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It is concerning that fans are more concerned that these things have been leaked not the fact that they have happened. TTTS

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@2 whyte did taping, how else can you here him have a pish. ?

think he handed over all material when rights/book deal bought. and this is the drip drip feed - it does show him trying to save rangers amidst d&p, green et all who cared less.

Think SDM offered Whyte this route. but warned whyte to tape every step.

just imagine we did not know about the tapes/email/.

Would think Hately wrong his opinions for DailyRecord not Rangers

Would think Green cared about Rangers

Would think Whyte killed rangers

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@3 mate a just hope fans don't renew their s/t ally gies a wee whimper every now and then so he looks as if he's asking questions and getting paid a fortune for his silence Walter is just like Malcolm Murray take the money and don't tell the fans anything my personal opinion these two so called rangers men should hang their heads in shame

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26 Jun 2013 09:35:26
i can't believe we need a squad ofthis size and quality to win div 2, my worry is that the wages are creating an overspend, and the roof comes tubling in also have any imrovements or any upkeep at all been done to the stadium, which was in dire need of upkeepat the least

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We (Rangers) don't need them, McCoist needs them to play crap football and keep his hugely overpaid job, when are you going to wake up he will sign anyone who will come regardless of age, ability or finances! McCoist is running Rangers into the ground to compete with part timers, why is he still here he is terrible at management and costing us a fortune.

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"McCoist is running Rangers into the ground"

What a load of nonsense!
Are you aware of how a manager gets his budget for players? Obviously not with statements like that.
Go away and have a conversation with your alter ego and yourself, you know, the pessimistic person to supporter and come back when you've ditched the latter.
P. O. B.

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@2/ Why slag another poster for his opinion. You backed Green did you not.

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McCoist isn't running Rangers into the ground, any purchases he is making would be vetoed by those in charge of financing the club. If the scamsters really were in charge, do you think they'd let him "waste" money like that?

There is obviously some sort of 2 or 3 year gameplan in operation here - some of these players will see us through into whatever incarnation of the SPL we arrive at in a couple of years time. We can't wait until the season after we win the 1st Div to decide what players we want to buy, we need to be doing some of it now.

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@2 poster 1 is close to the mark you are just the type of supporter that green was playing to, ally mccoist is a hopeless manager who will make millions out off rangers, as long as he keeps quiet he will not be sacked

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2. Why does being blindly optimistic help Rangers?

After events of the last few years fans have every right to voice their concerns. But then again you told us all repeatedly to trust Charles Green didn't you?

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Green ran Sheffield United into ground, buying expensive crap players, undermining manager etc etc etc

Green ran agency and hired his wife and friends as consultants. running up huge bills.

Spivs need huge bills to con someone, tax, hrmc, suppliers.

Spivs in charge will allow ally to take on too many costs (players/staff) and them blame Ally.

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@3 - Yes. There was no other show in town at the time. What's your point?
@5 & 6.
Read my post and #4.
That is the issue. The board have to sanction the budget the manager is allowed.

P. O. B.

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Alexander, boca and goian off the books, that's £15-20 grand a week saved plus a few more will go

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Charly boy saved rangers don't forget that

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Charly boy liquidated Rangers, Charly boy made himself a lot of money

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P. O. B. Ignore the pessimistic little persons that come on this board to try to influence true supporters not to buy ST's and to slag Ally off. they neither understand football or finance. Their pathetic posts are simply to try to disrupt the rebuilding process by spreading malicious propoganda. They are either too young, too thick or do not truelly support Rangers.

Ozzie Al

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