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26 Apr 2020 20:21:21
The 86-87 season saw Rangers about 10 points behind Celtic going into the Ne'erday Game at Ibrox. A win -0 to Rangers saw the revival and Rangers won the league by about 6 points. One reason we should try and play out the League as you 'never can Tell'.
26 Apr 2020 22:04:43
I remember that one, they all said it was over at xmas! One of the finest fightbacks ever.
27 Apr 2020 05:43:48
Aye and it was probably only 2 points for a win at that time too.
26 Apr 2020 18:40:18
RE - Rangers going into the Eng conference. The OP advised someone in Eng has been asked if they wouldn't mind, wonder if its a colts team we are trying to put into Eng rather than the 1st team, just a thought.
26 Apr 2020 19:44:29
Do you honestly think that the Rangers first team will be allowed to play their football in England? I'd love it to happen. It's been proposed many times before and been shot down at all angles, we're not welcome. However teams from Wales are allowed to play their football in England.
26 Apr 2020 23:20:46
Let's clarify this. Welsh teams were given permission many years ago to play in England because their home nation had no professional league. That is one of the few criteria that allows teams to play outside their home nation, another being areas of conflict (Cyprus, Northern Ireland with Derry City, the Balkan states etc) . Berwick Rangers played non league football in the old Scottish Borders league about 120 years ago and were refused entry to English football several times because of travel problems for other teams. They were eventually accepted into Scottish senior football in 1951, so that's a historical one. All over Europe teams play outwith their own associations but only due to one of a short list of reasons. We will never be allowed to play in England, so forget it.
27 Apr 2020 08:46:57
Tjbb, i'd imagine the colt team would be left to play in s.p.f.l., but don't for a second think we would be excepted into english footie, unless all scottish clubs folded.
27 Apr 2020 08:56:21
Tjbb, its been spoke about, and refused loads of times mate, but it could all go down to the length of time it takes to fix this virus, lots of teams will fold, i think that is the only way it could happen, its not a nice way of looking at it, i agree, but it is what it is, as they saying goes.
26 Apr 2020 15:25:28
Genuine question
Why are Rangers fans so keen for the remainder of the season to be played? I respect the fact that mathematically you could still win the title but surely even the most optimistic rangers fan would concede this isn't going to happen.
As I see it the only 2 teams in the PL that should want games played out, behind closed doors/ over July-August/ whatever are hearts and Celtic. Hearts as they might as well fight relegation, they've nothing to lose. And Celtic so we can win a title without the asterisk. For teams 2-11 in the table, take the money and run, enjoy your summer holidays!
Seriously, what is the agenda? Would you really be pleased if UEFA decreed remaining games should be played behind closed doors in the summer? Surely there would be no interest afraid couple of weeks when the title is confirmed, and you've still to play 4/ 5/ 6 games for no reason. Seems illogical to me.
If it is just a wind up then fair enough, don't really see the funny side but at least makes sense as a p*ss take. Just keen to know what's going on.
26 Apr 2020 16:03:30
OK gerry, do you think the relegation of Hearts and Partick is fair and in keeping with sporting integrity? Is it what they signed up for at the start of the season? No of course it isn't. Well the same goes for the top of the table, we should be playing all the games as per agreement before the season starts. We have to play each other twice yet so how can you predict the outcome of these games, you can't. I understand that in your wee world there are no other points of view so that is why you struggle and assume we are at the wind up but in my world I fail to understand why you think you are deserving of a title when there are 9 games remaining.
26 Apr 2020 16:32:05
Well Mr Murphy, it is all about sporting and human integrity. Why indeed should Hearts and Partick be relegated when it is very clear that mathematically they could stay up? As for Celtic and Rangers, 13 points could become 10 with a game in hand and 4 if we beat you twice (not out of the question) . I cited recently the case in 1996 when Kevin Keegan's Newcastle United were 12 points clear of Fergie's Man Utd and still lost the league. Declare the whole thing null and void now and start again next season. If you want the title that bad then for Christ's sake have it. The corrupt SPFL and SFA will I'm sure make certain that happens.
26 Apr 2020 16:36:17
It's not even the games played that rangers are fighting. It's the obvious and blatant mess they made of the vote, arrogance that they won't even accept they may have done wrong or that errors were made, or that there are far too many coincidences in the corridors of power that are set up to protect and maintain the interests of one club (no prizes for guessing who that is)
26 Apr 2020 16:44:44
Jyf don't quite get your point, I said I can understand Celtic/ Hearts (and indeed Partick/ lower league teams in similar positions) wanting to finish the season, just couldn't understand Rangers keenness.
Doiger, I actually admire the fact you believe you can still win the title, fair play - I like to think I'd have as strong faith if the positions were reversed. So I'll take that as the best argument for carrying on.
As that seems unlikely, I propose the following; give you the 3 points for your game in hand, make it 10 points. Then Celtic/ Rangers go away to a quarantined location, play out 4 games against each other over a week - if you win all 4 you win the title by 2 points, if we get 1 draw it'll come down to goal difference, anything else the title is ours. seems fair enough!
For the record, as I've said, I don't want to be awarded the title, but there's a reality that has to set in at some point - assuming we want to play european football next year (in truth i'd happily not play it next year) . In this scenario maybe we just wait, 6/ 7/ 8/ 9 months and play the remiander of the season when its good to go. Otherwise we need to come up with a way of ending it in July/ august.
26 Apr 2020 16:51:55
I suspect what Rangers want is regime change at the top of the SPFL. They want immunity for the whistleblower before revealing what they have and so far the SPFL have not responded to the Rangers request for the policy dealing with whistleblowers.
I, like the majority of Rangers fans, concede the league is over but we want clarity, honesty and openness at the top of that corrupt organisation. Time tp clean out the Stygian stables, and that proved difficut!
26 Apr 2020 17:07:20
The reason I used Hearts and Partick is because it is not FAIR to relegate them and if it is not FAIR to relegate them then it is not FAIR to award you the title, or am I wrong? Yous keep going on about wanting to finish the season but yous clearly don't, you just want to get your hands on a title that is clearly tarnished and UNFAIR. If you think the vote was ran well and FAIR then I pity you, now do you understand why I, at least, can't see why you are getting the league handed to you without earning it?
26 Apr 2020 17:08:11
1/ because we can still win the title
2/ because we are still in Europe
Oh and don't forget Gerry, your club has already voted to END the season to claim an unearned tainted title.
So don't see your post as a genuine question. 👍.
26 Apr 2020 18:46:05
Celtic have played one more game than Rangers if Celtic are given the title that would be cheating now wouldn’t it now surely you don’t want That do we? And if you’re one shoe was on the other foot we would have resolution 13 for another how many years you can have the title when you win it on the park no more no less anything else is CHEATING 🇬🇧.
26 Apr 2020 19:51:29
Fact is Rangers can still win the league, so for me the race is still on. I'd never conceded unless its mathematically impossible.
26 Apr 2020 20:01:15
Gerry would you accept Dutch method final placing dictate Europe but no winners or relegation recorded this season?
26 Apr 2020 08:42:02
You answered your own question. It's mathematically possible so, why wouldn't you go for it. We are winners .
27 Apr 2020 08:43:28
Gerry, the league is decided on the team sitting top, after 38 games. of league football, i don't see how some can't see that, honestly, instead of clubs wanting money.
27 Apr 2020 08:50:03
How can teams from 2-11 take the money and run, who are Hearts playing behind closed doors then?
27 Apr 2020 18:18:20
because murphy its how you win trophies. first past the post and all that.
26 Apr 2020 09:55:40
Good morning guys
Been a while since I posted thought I'd check in, hope everyone is safe and well
Not sure about anyone else but this lockdown and not football is driving me crazy
On a whole I would like to just see the league finished now and let Celtic have it as we were never at the races since the turn of the year anyway.
Think the future is more important now.
Not sure when football is going to be back playing and what capacity it will be played at? As in indoor behind closed doors etc
This saga of the vote if our club has something then just come and show what it is - do they even have anything that's my worry now as it's dragging on a bit!
I wish people at all clubs could come together and sort things out, people are dying the rest of us locked up in our houses not being able to see friends and loved ones
They should put there petty grievances aside and come together for once and sort things out amicably and in a grown up manner so far it's been playground stuff and every club should be embarrassed
By how there all behaving
Come together and ensure every club in Scotland can and will be able to continue when this crisis is over should be what we are all watching and listening too
Anything less should be deemed disgusting
Like I say people are dying and football is not the top priority here
Lively hoods are getting destroyed businesses are going to the wall
All clubs should be more worried about there fan base surviving and being able to buy a season ticket when this over for there own survival
Keep hearts up let partick thistle say in there league
Do what ever is necessary to keep teams alive and afloat
And maybe we will see more of a family feel in football
Let's see the good side of humans for once especially during a crisis like this it's not just Scotland it's the whole world in this together
So guys let's see this through and hopefully all clubs will se sense and see there is more to worry about than a league standing
And hopefully we're all here and there all here in the future so we can once again watch and enjoy football
One last note
Fed up looking at newspapers with were linked with this player and that player
We don't even know when football will be back
And we can't even be certain our own club will still be here come the end of this as no one knows how long it's going to last
Anyway fingers crossed we will be here and we see a better league and less bigotry
And everyone celebrating being fit and healthy and being allowed to sing together and allowed to get back to work and see our loved ones and friends
Guys take care And stay safe 😊.
26 Apr 2020 10:13:09
Thestigno1. Good post.
Nice to hear u again, stay safe.
26 Apr 2020 10:18:16
Hear hear one of the most sensible posts I have seen on any forum in a long long time. Time for all real fans to join forces and move forward to ensure our game gets stronger.
26 Apr 2020 10:39:53
Might be your opinion stigno, but here’s mine! I hope as many of these clubs that stuck the knife in in 2012 and continue to do so get everything that’s coming to them. there's nothing we can do about a global pandemic but there is something we can do about sporting integrity! War cry bears. AAAARRRGGHHH.
26 Apr 2020 11:23:43
Too sensible sting. 👏👏👏👏.
26 Apr 2020 12:51:27
Thestigno1, excellent post, it is good to see someone not spouting vitriol for a change. Yes, I think there has been wrongdoing with that vote, but, I agree with you, we either put up or shut up with this information we say we hold, if it's that damaging it will have to be reviewed.
Anyway, in the 'Real World', we just need to look after ourselves and our families, I couldn't give a toss to be honest about football at this time.
Stay safe everyone.
26 Apr 2020 13:47:15
I am sorry but setting aside a global pandemic, Rangers football club, its fans, history and very existence has been put under so much scrutiny, we are not even allowed to fight our corner without the press, SPFL and every other wee Hiltler chairman or CEO having a go at my club, i will not turn the other cheek, and why should I, I hate the narrative and agenda growing daily against my club, i have not one bit of pity for other clubs, as we know the feeling is likewise, if other bigoted wee clubs fold, tough titty, i am only interested in fairness for Rangers, and having the right to reply to the crass and indifferent opinion of the rest of crooked Scottish football.
26 Apr 2020 14:12:45
Too negative sting. wholly disagree. if they can't play fair shouldn't play at all. after all that's the standard isn't it?
26 Apr 2020 14:27:37
Billyblackpool, and gersdaft, i'm definitely 100 per cent behind youse guys, ', and i wish some more of our support would revolt against this shambles of a crew trying to run scottish football, there's not a footballer on the sfa or spfl., what's happened, ooops, forget that last question, as we all know what's happened, big pete got his friends jobs, therein lies the problem, a more bitter, bias crew you will never meet, for sure, (theres not a footballer on the sfa, or spfl board) as above.
26 Apr 2020 14:34:27
Should have asked, are there any prods involved on any of the sfa or spfl boards.
26 Apr 2020 16:16:05
Football is of little relevance, give Celtic the title? The irony.
26 Apr 2020 16:20:06
Les gray, Stewart Robertson for starters.
26 Apr 2020 18:38:08
the stig. great post mate. paulellen you are a cretin and the hatred bleeds out of you. give your head a wobble pal.
27 Apr 2020 08:45:53
Gray is a Jungle Jim.
27 Apr 2020 08:47:24
Gerry. You say that to me as a celtic supporter, those are my thoughts, without doubt.
27 Apr 2020 09:25:39
Seeker what makes u think les gray i jungle Jim?
27 Apr 2020 09:55:24
Before coming on to a rangers forum! and having nerve to call a regular poster like Paulellen a cretin have a look at the inane pointless posts we endure from you and your ilk and I’d include your pointless question then talk about cretinous actions
Why can’t you see you’ve won nothing why do you want gifted a title? if roles reversed, the posts on here from your mob would have different tone.
27 Apr 2020 11:55:21
I see we have another obsessed jungle Jim posting on a Rangers forum They certainly are a strange bred 🏴🇦🇺⚽️😎👍.
27 Apr 2020 18:19:12
hahahaha and Gerry proves the point.
25 Apr 2020 23:36:28
I think it's about time that we showed what we've got. If we've got evidence, put it on the table. Say its wassap msg's or emails. Let the public see. If we've got Doncaster offering incentives etc. Show it. Show what we've got. Make them try and explain it. RFC says that we have evidence of bullying and coercion. Put it on the table and let the involved teams try and explain it themselves. A fair investigation won't happen. The pathetic people in charge of teams outwith the old firm would happily stay mediocre and accept Celtic or RFC to win the next 100 league titles. They all know that they'll never win the league. Survival us their main priority. Taking money from the old firm keeps them afloat. Cowardice, and being one of the flock is all the other teams know. No team with a voice. It's a joke. Lie down and let CFC run the league. We need to try something else. Is it possible for RFC to apply to a different league? If we left the SPL, the other teams would suffer tremendously. In my opinion, they all hate us. We don't care. Stuff them all.
26 Apr 2020 08:41:45
There is an issue with that, the SPFL can then brush it under the carpet as it would be internally reviewed. Rangers want an external enquiry then submit the case, so that it may be dealt with fully and properly.
26 Apr 2020 08:58:15
It feel that the opinion of the general footballing opinion is changing- they believe that something untoward happened at the vote but they now want it out in the open. Its time we made our dossier public as it's becoming an embarrassment to us as Rangers supporters. there's so much interest that Doncaster and co couldn't suppress it now if they wanted to so let's see it.
26 Apr 2020 14:13:54
said many many times. a lie has speed but the truth endurance. if they are in a rush they have a problem. trump impeachment a case in point.
26 Apr 2020 14:16:55
Lanzarote blue, i think the opposite mate, don't tell them what we have, if we did they would just put there yes men in, to agree that we are in the wrong, so an independent inquiry is the only option open to us, what have the people running scottish football got to fear?, if alls above board. nows the ideal time, imo to get to the problem.
26 Apr 2020 18:40:04
you have nothing. absolutely zero. the whole country must be sick to death of your clubs mortifying bleating by now.
27 Apr 2020 18:22:59
why mcgin we have to put with yours every game. its why Scottish football is where it is. keep lennon happy.