Rangers Banter Archive June 25 2011

 

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25 Jun 2011 22:34:27
rangers do not have a head coach ! as ally mccoist has onlytook over has manager ! he has option for boar to appoint head coach

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Durant head coach is he no? mcdowell coistys assistant

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So when did we sack Kenny McDowall ?
LOL

BF

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25 Jun 2011 22:01:07
ed do you know who rangers has let go of ?
Andrew Shinnie
Thomas Kind Bendiksen
Ross Perry
Salim Kerkar
Andrew Little
David Healy ?
www.transfermarkt.co.uk say we have let go of these players

{Ed010's Note -I do remember reading a list of released players somewhere on the official Rangers website but I cannot remember who was on it. Fellow bears can you assist please ?

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Perry has not left he signed 2 year deal last year an littlie i dont think is either

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Cristiano kisuka (i think we signed him from aberdeen, i think he's from carribean somewere)
my mate plays for linlithgow rose (top junior team) and they play bounce games with rangers under 19's at murray park 2 or 3 times a season. said kisuka looked like a great player.

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25 Jun 2011 21:53:41
i just watched the under 21 championship and i am telling you a hope ally was to and saw the young lad called Xherdan Shaqiri right wing fast and skillful and his contract with FC Basil runs out in january! what a scoop that wid be

{Ed010's Note -if only lol

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25 Jun 2011 21:19:26
hey guys take a look at the septic banter page there is one big speal about the tax case and it looks as if the septic crew are worried that we cant fullfill or fixtures or complete in cl and they should do it by default f*cking hilarious what that crew will do to try and win is beyond belief

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25 Jun 2011 19:55:38
Team:
Mcgregor
Bartely bougie cuellar papac
Danns
Davis Weiss
Naismith. Jelavic. Lafferty

I personally think bartly could be a rb instead of Whittaker and bougie will stay ;)
Also dans Davis Weiss pushing up setting up either Naismith jelavic lafferty who can all finish !
What do you think Ed ?

{Ed010's Note - With regard to Bartley, it's a possibility but I much prefer someone who is a right back, to play at right back. I don't intend to become embroiled in the Steven Whittaker's ability debate but suffice to say, that if Ally has a ready made fullback, then he has to play him, ahead of a centre back.

The only other player that I have an issue with is Vladimir Weiss. There is no doubting that he is a talented lad but all to often last season, he was posted missing. If I was looking for a dynamic and skilful winger, to play in a Rangers team, the name Chris Eagles would be one that I would be looking towards. Just my opinion though.

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Can i just remind ppl that eagles wanted more money!!, we gave him a great package great facilities everything and still wasnt enuff, vlad maybe did go missin too many times last season but there is loads of potential there and when he was on song it was great to see, and he jumped it the chance too play 4 us and now he loves the club so who wuld i want playin 4 me, sumday tht turns us dwn when he had a great deal or sumday tht loves rangers and jumped at the chance to b part of our team!!

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Is it not the case that many want Weiss mainly because he watched an Old Firm game with the other Rangers fans?

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We should put bougie at rb as he has played for algeria in that pos and loves getting forward wae bartley and cueller at cb if we sign them

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No!! hes got bags of talent and hes 21 speed-vision-awareness-skill, hes the real deal just needs to be matured which deffo will happen playin under ally and the team it was workin near the end before he got injured, i was watchn his videos on youtube and i culdnt stop smiling watchn it, in a way he deffo has abit of laudrup about him, i knw laudrup is a great but he was alot older when he came to gers hed matured already, vlads not yet but he could if he gets regular footie and game time am telling u this kid has it!!! :)

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Has weiss not got himself a loan set up this year, also i there was a story roaming about from a few people from outside london who grew up with him that he is one of the great unwashed and it was actually his dad that put him off the move.

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Not being smart but when exactly has Weiss gone missing? Genuine enquiry as I was only aware of Bougherra not retuning for days on end after international duty.

Weiss is a fantastic young player and I can only echo the sentiments regarding his skill, speed and vision. There was a few occassions, he tried to do it all himself but I too think he is the real deal.

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25 Jun 2011 20:46:15
I heard that there was a big name going to assist ally, McDowell and durrant aswell i was told it was ray Wilkens it would be good if it was but do we need somebody helping ally and co

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The big name you are looking for was gordon smith who is already signed up, the management team are set up there will be no more additions, i have 100% from john brown whom i was with on friday

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25 Jun 2011 19:55:38
Team:
Mcgregor
Bartely bougie cuellar papac
Danns
Davis Weiss
Naismith. Jelavic. Lafferty

I personally think bartly could be a rb instead of Whittaker and bougie will stay ;)
Also dans Davis Weiss pushing up setting up either Naismith jelavic lafferty who can all finish !
What do you think Ed ?

{Ed010's Note -It's a possibility but I much prefer someone who is a right back, to play at right back. I don't intend to becaome embroiled in the Steven Whittaker's ability debate but suffice to say, that if Ally has a ready made fullback, then he has to play him.

The only other player that I have an issue with is Vladimir Weiss. There is no doubting that he is a talented lad but all to often last season, he was posted missing. If I was looking for a dynamic and skilful winger, to play in a Rangers team, the name Chris Eagles would be one that I would be looking towards. Just my opinion though.

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25 Jun 2011 20:03:20
Whyte is expected to stump up the funds this week in order to get goodwillie and cuellar and get a deal for neil danns. Then looking to get 2/3 others before end of transfer window. WATP

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Forget about cuellar his agent has said rangers are offering 15 grand a week less than he is on just now. He will not be coming and i for one do not want to see him at ibrox it would be christmas before we would see him play. How does he pass a medical? no one has asked this. Just got one name for us to think about "DANIEL PRODAN" anyone one remember this disaster. Waste of cash.

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Forget about cuellar his agent has said rangers are offering 15 grand a week less than he is on just now. He will not be coming and i for one do not want to see him at ibrox it would be christmas before we would see him play. How does he pass a medical? no one has asked this. Just got one name for us to think about "DANIEL PRODAN" anyone one remember this disaster. Waste of cash.

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25 Jun 2011 19:59:24
What about this. 3-5-2 next season
MacGregor
Cuellar bougy Bartley
Naismith danns Davis mcculloch Weiss
Jelavic lafferty or goodwillie
Good defence, very attacking mid, and good forward line.
Just my thoughts. What do you think?

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Wouldnt work mate. naismith n weiss have no ability to track back n tackle, the middle three balance wouldnt work either as only one would be able to play more advanced, prob danns and then you lose davis getting forward (best part of his game for me, would like him to get forward more)
other thing being weiss aint coming back!
hope we increase our bid for cuellar, thb im not sure about goodwillie, although at 21 you are signing potential n def resale value. hope danns, cuellar n one other (is goodwillie so be it) are complete this week. would also like to see the bears go for alan smith who i think has a point to prove n would be good up front with jela (although laff has earned his chance n should start next season with jela up front)
the tiger - beyond reproach

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I think this would work mate. You have mcculloch dropping into defence when we are defending making it a back 4. That would leave 4 attacking midfielders, would be exciting to watch. If it ain't Weiss it could be someone else. This is just the guys opinion, not a 100% accurate team. I think it looks solid with plenty of attacking options.

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U talk pish naismith can't track back my f***in arse naismith covers the whole pitch and I am not the original poster. I wouldn't play 3 at back but don't say the wee man can't track back example lasts day of season won the ball our 18 box played 1-2 with davis ran length of pitch to stick ball in the pokey getting more like durrant each season.

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He might run up n down the pitch, but one he has tracked back his defensive work is no good (same as novo in that sense. good work rate) naismith this season looked great out on right midfield. hope he stays there, but out wide as part of a 5 is not his game, a decent wing back will beat him all day, he is lightweight.
the tiger - beyond reproach

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25 Jun 2011 19:08:24
why does ally not try and get Jay Bothroyd? he on a free and is a good fast striker with a eye for goal and i know the mankys want him to partner pooper

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Looks like he is signing for the darkside m8.

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Looks like he is signing for the darkside m8.

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Striker no our biggest priority mate
the tiger

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25 Jun 2011 18:25:09
lets be honest were only giving mcgregor a bumper contract so we sel himfor more

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I rekon mcgregor will sign a new deal n become a 500 game man - the goalie 2 in the making.
the tiger - still beyond reproach

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25 Jun 2011 17:31:44
I would like us to sign:

Carlos Cuellar (£2.5m, £20k)
Kyle Naughton (£1m, £10k)
Kyle Bartley (£1.5m, £10k)
Lee Wallace (£500k, £8k )
Vladimir Weiss (Loan, £10k)
Neil Danns (Free, £15k)
David Goodwillie (£2m, £8k)
Jamie Murphy (£500k, £5k)

Expenditure:

Transfer Fees: £8m
Wages: £86,000

And sell:

Steven Whittaker (£1m, £12k)
Madjid Bougherra (£1m, £15k)
Maurice Edu (£1m, £8k)
James Beattie (£500k, £20k)

Income:

Transfer Fees: £3.5m
Wages: £55,000

Of course the wages I've written down are just rough estimates which I don't think would be far off.


Providing we do indeed have £12m to play with, this would leave £7.5m plus the wages of outgoing players to play with for new players wages, as well as new contracts for McGregor, Whittaker, Davis & Jelavic.

I think this would be excellent business for Rangers and would leave us with a young, fresh, exciting squad full of excellent prospects (we would have Naughton, Bartley, Wallace, Weiss, Goodwillie, Murphy, Hutton, Ness, Wylde, Fleck and Cole all under the age of 23 and potentially with excellent sell on value), as well as a few experienced heads.

Any thoughts Ed?

{Ed010's Note -I certainly wouldn't dream of arguing with you about the fees or the wage structure, as I haven't got a clue how realistic they are, one way or the other. I am in full agreement that we really do need to commit to youth but we do need some seasoned pros, from whom they can learn from and improve their game. A couple of interesting names in your "ins" and they are Kyle Naughton and Jamie Murphy, both of whom are very mobile, energetic and skillful.

From all accounts the Norwegian twins, namely Tom and Kim Skogsrud, are supposed to be quality players and if they are as good as is suggested, may force their way into the first team squad. Only time will tell on that one.

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25 Jun 2011 18:21:29
with cuellar not available to october should we not just wait and get him for free come january.all be it on a pre contract for next season.or maybe half a mill in january....also chances are a good few league games will also be wiped out with the weather in december.. goodwillie must be paid for asap.2 mill if thats what is required..would this not give the club a massive boost..silence the doubters and keep them soap dodgers quiet.....?

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25 Jun 2011 18:20:47
Rangers defender Madjid Bougherra insists that he has no intention of leaving Ibrox this summer.

Sky sports web site.
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TBH I'd rather we kept him at Ibrox for another year and get nothing for him next year, than let him leave for peanuts.

He is worth at least 6 million, and he should not be allowed to leave for less than that.

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Yes 6 million yen sounds about rite to me

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Get rid of boogie.his hearts not at ibrox.same with whitts..how can we chant theses peoples name next season..JUDAS.the 2 of them..do they really care if rangers win the league or not next season?...no they dont..they want fat wallets not medals..these 2 players should never play for our club again..same with ceullar.boyd.millar..ect..wish we had the dedication of 11 sasa papacs

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Get rid of boogie.his hearts not at ibrox.same with whitts..how can we chant theses peoples name next season..JUDAS.the 2 of them..do they really care if rangers win the league or not next season?...no they dont..they want fat wallets not medals..these 2 players should never play for our club again..same with ceullar.boyd.millar..ect..wish we had the dedication of 11 sasa papacs

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Bougey is never a 6m player. he also has developed a bad attitude. his 1st season he was outstanding but last season i think he started to believe his own hype and over the course of last season was very average. also nobody has come in for him (and if they did, lets be honest it wouldnt be man u or the likes)
if he wants to go, let him go. prob 1.5 to 2mill
the tiger - beyond reproach

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25 Jun 2011 18:06:17
I personally think Craig Whyte is being cautious and not wanting to throw money about at the moment. He said he is confident that Rangers don't hold any liability for the tax case but it's still something that could be put on Rangers although it's unlikely. I think the cautious thing with the £5Million or so the now is to try and get the best and biggest targets (Cuellar and Goodwillie) for as cheap as possible so that squad depth can be brought in. I think WHEN the tax case has been sorted and it's nothing to do with Rangers that's when we'll see some great redevelopment and the club being taken a long way forward. Though whatever happens we will follow on.

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25 Jun 2011 18:05:48
I wouldnt be worried about the post regarding "serious unrest" and "whyte doesnt have funds" bears. Its quite obvious that it was a celtic fan who posted it. Its still early to get any players. God the transfer market isnt opened yet. Be paitient. Celtic fans should be worried at their own club with their massive wage bill and rising debt. Another year or 2 without champions league money should be enough to cripple them. 4 in a row. Also heard a rumour that celtic cant buy any players until they get rid of the deadwood in their team. Imo which is alot

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25 Jun 2011 17:36:21
Scottish champions Rangers stand to make a cool £1.35million if former player Charlie Adam joins Liverpool this summer.

Adam is rumoured to arrive at Anfield on a £9m transfer fee.

This might be why we are reluctant to pay 2m for Goodwillie &/or 3m for Cuellar at the moment, as they want to see what happens with the Adam deal and see how much they can use towards other transfers without using the transfer budget allocated already!

{Ed010's Note -with regards to the last paragraph, if that is true that is a high risk strategy, would you not agree ?

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Why not use the transfer budget..is it not for spending my friend?whats the point of having a transfer budget if you aint gona spend it?.could you shed some light on this for me

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25 Jun 2011 17:31:33
3mill for cuellar my ass..the guys no good to us to october..sit tight and sign him for free in january...

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Cuellar is resuming training in 2 weeks after minor keyhole surjery on his knee bring him in just now I remember big broadfoot saying the guy was never out of the gym so it will not take him long to get fit

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I read the same story about Cuellar. He says that he will be fit for the start of the season.

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This sheds a different light on cuellars situation..although i would not take him back for past betrayal if hes ready for the start of the new season and allys prepared to bring him back then this deal shud be concluded asap..were did the october bit come from?

{Ed010's Note -there are two threads currently running on the same subject. Perhaps this link will explain the situation.

http://www.7500toholte.com/2011/5/24/2187314/carlos-cuellar-injury-aston-villa

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25 Jun 2011 17:23:46
Rangers team which i think would great for nxt season

Mcgregor
Whitty bouggie cuellar papac
Danns bartley wiess
Naismith
Jelevic goodwillie

What use think?

J J

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Bartley is a cb jst coz he played ther a few games doesn't mean that's wer he will play his best position is cb I h8 wen ppl put players out of position!! Wer is our best player davis??
And naismith best position is at rm making l8 runs n2 the box like he did last season

Mcgregor
Whit. Boug cuell papac
Nais. Davis danns weiss
Jel gdwully

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No davis or jigg ?

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No davis? no, not happy with that.if we sign those players, great.that would not be my line-up though.

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What about Davis

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You wouldn't have Davis in midfield? R u crazy. The guy is sheer class and nobody in the SPL comes close for vision, energy, composure, creativity and passion. You clearly don't watch many games if u don't see this

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Just heard that rangers are wanting to sign Jamie murphy of Motherwell as David goodwillie looks highly unlikly would rather goodwillie to come but who knows :)

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What about lafferty aswell he wont be dropped after the form him and jelavic had at end of season whether we signed hemed or sign goodwillie big lafferty is the man , he tries 110% every match and is actually turned out an outstanding finisher

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I have to apologise to my fellow bears i i should have put davis in my team. As for the person who said about players out of poition have u forgoten papac is a natural cb. Plus my opinion naisy would score alot more goals sitting behind the 2 strikers. I know he was excellent on the right last season.

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Why are people putting whittaker in the team the guys a joke he has had some shocking periods and we stuck by him all the way and this is how he repays us

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25 Jun 2011 17:15:48
Aston Villa reject £1.5 million from Rangers and want £3 million for Cuellar, just thought I'd mention that we signed him for £2.37 million in 2007, his value will have decreased since then, so I would rate him at about £1.9 or 2 million now.

Hopefully Ashley Young to Man Utd will pump some cash into Villa so they won't be as strict about Cuellar's fee.

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25 Jun 2011 17:06:08
check cuellars wiki page someone has changed his current club to rangers :D loll

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Goodwillie is the same lol

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25 Jun 2011 16:49:34
rangers will not sign cuellar.they will wait until xmas transfer window andby cuellar come in for a smaller price.
also david goddwillie would rather sign for rangers than cardiff but if whyte doesnt offer and appropriate ammount its out of goodwillies hands.
kenny miller will not be returning as he was a huge convincing part of the deal for scott carson to go bursaspor.mcgregor will sign anew deal but whittaker will reject his even though he would be the highest paid player at ibrox.
paul jackson the club doctor is my uncle.

Other news is there is serious unrest with int backroom staff at ibrox they dont like the way whyte is running things and the reason hemed , conway and maybe now goodwillie didnt sign for rangers is becuase whyte doesnt have the sort of funds he promissed.hes making out its the player/clubs greed or over price evaluation but simple fact is he doenst have the cash he made out he did

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25 Jun 2011 16:49:13
Not willing to pay £3m for Cuellar? He is 29, therefore in his prime and is proven in SPL, Champions League and Premiership... Where else are we going to get value like that?

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25 Jun 2011 16:39:26
THINK THE BOY MURPHY WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THE SQUAD, WORTH A BID OF600,000.

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25 Jun 2011 16:32:45
does whyte firmly believe that because he paid a quid for rangers he can buy players for peanuts, he wants 2 million for whitts yet wants guys like goodwillie on the cheap.even at 3 million big carlos would again prove excellent value at that price, hes playing a dodgy game and could end up losing out on top targets, im still very unconvinced with this guys so called wealth and intentions.has anyone proof of this guys wealth?the so called 700 million fortune is a load of bull, start asking questions guys.

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You're obviously a sceptic septic fan
Mr whytes various companies have made pre-tax profits of billions of pounds over the last 5 years and he was also named one of Scotlands most succesfull business men so thats where his "so called" 700 million is coming from

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Another comment without proof, whytes companies must be the only ones doing very well in this climate, open your eyes and start asking questions, another one who believes what he reads but only if its good.

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I take desmonds making a mint.lolol..and this is where ceptics transfer budgets coming from.lol...wse up to yourself you silly ceptic fool

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What have they got to do with rangers?quite a few fans are not convinced about whytes plans and what he is said to be worth, if u cant understand these concerns your more of a clown than i suspect.

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25 Jun 2011 15:23:31
ED, cant Cuellar leave on the Webby Ruling? He signed a 4 year deal 3 years ago which means he can buy out his contract? Might be why Rangers dont value him at £3m...

{Ed010's Note -You are entirely correct on both counts but maybe there is another reason that we could consider.

By all acounts, Cuellar is going to miss the first 2 months of the season due to his injury and rehabilitation. If and when he does return, he will probably take about another 6 weeks to get back to both full physical and match fitness. With that in mind, it may be that Ally realises that it would only be another 10 weeks until the winter transfer window opens, which would allow him to "sign" Cuellar on a pre-contract agreement or to offer Aston Villa a token sum, to secure his services. Just a thought.

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But could he not just be signed now an weir push him around in a wheelbarrow

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What do u think cuellar on at villa 30-40 grand a week (can we afford that)? Equates to 1.5- 2 mil to buy out his contract , 29 yr old injured gonna miss start of season , don't make sense to pay over the odds IMO

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Cheers for the response, ED. Are you sure Cuellar will be out of action for that long? I thought his injury was healing much quicker than expected?

{Ed010's Note -before I posted the the timeline, I decided to do a little research, just in case this very question surfaced. Although there were several newspaper aticles, I had a read at an Aston Villa website called "7500toHolte.com".

I have copied the headline and the author, which shows the date as 24/05/11. The link to the to the article is shown below that :

Carlos Cuellar Set To Miss Three Months With Injury: Explains The Lack Of King Carlos
by Kirsten Schlewitz on May 24, 2011 1:33 PM BST in AVFC


http://www.7500toholte.com/2011/5/24/2187314/carlos-cuellar-injury-aston-villa

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I stand corrected ED. By the way, there's a quote in todays Daily Star from Cuellar's agent (Pedro Bravo) that "It would be unlikely Rangers could match his wages so i expect him to see out the final year of his contract at Villa"

{Ed010's Note -my friend, there is no need to "stand corrected" because there are no rights and no wrongs when it comes to rumours and speculations. For every one article that I can produce to show one thing, someone else could probably produce two to show the contrary.

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25 Jun 2011 14:24:14
whats happened to the ed10, s one man crusade today (has he gone to the holy land to fight the infadels?)there, s not much posting going on..just a "whole lot of shaking going on" as fans are starting to notice whats not going down..we will have to change the song to " simply the skint" I just hope the price of the season tickets is halfed(a 50% reduction)If no purchases of players is forthcoming and we should get some comedians on the new board at the same time...crusty the clown comes to mind! just to keep the (masses happy)ha ha somebody called me all the B, s last week and said he would still support rangers if they were in division 3 and I wasnt a true blue poppycock mate if you were, nt able to say I support the champions you would be at parkhead on saturdays you were so shallow but good luck to you all..looks like you need it now.

{Ed010's Note -Thank you for the concern my friend but when my other half says that she wants to go to the shops, this Ed goes to the shops. Nothing to do with who wears the trousers and everything to do with the protection of my ear drums.

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I think we all get hen pecked...its a pity about my season ticket but I got a new sky digital system installed so she can do all the shopping she wants Im sortedfor the start of the season cheers...

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25 Jun 2011 15:32:16
25 Jun 2011 11:42:09
Need to say that I am glad that berra won't be coming to rangers as I don't think he is good enough to play for the champs

Don't know why rangers aint willing to pay 3million for cuellar considering he was a top class centre back when he was at ibrox a couple of years ago

Why pay £3mill when you can get him for say £2-2.5mill?

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25 Jun 2011 13:18:47
do you know how much w.b.a offered for mcgregor that was turned down ed?

{Ed010's Note -to my knowledge, no fee was ever reported, just the fact that Rangers had rebuffed the WBA approach.

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25 Jun 2011 14:17:55
Heres to everyone who is saying wallace instead of Papac,
Hes been the most consistent player last season, evry tackle he makes is perfect

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25 Jun 2011 14:10:34
If players want to turn down rangers for more money that's up to them, it just shows they were not right for rangers anyway. You should want to play for rangers because of our history and our ability to win trophies and play in the champions league. If players would rather go to Cardiff or whoever else for an extra grand or two let them. Don't cry over spilt milk. We will sign players, who they are, I don't know and neither do 99% of people on here but it's good to talk and speculate. it's all very exciting.
Sparky72

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25 Jun 2011 14:07:48
It says on the man city
blog there could be some truth in the weiss rumour but that wont be happening either Im sure whyte will tell you hes not worth the money parting with 2-3million pounds might cause mr whyte some acute mental health issues.

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25 Jun 2011 13:41:45
I said last week I feared for the clubs future now Im certain ..I wont be going back after what is transpiring! its worse than I thought it would be.Im just not prepared to watch the humiliation of my fellow bears seeing the club being dismantled and reduced to a skeleton by someone who says he cares about the club.I really hope whoever can turn it around does but this is not the way to do it.
Disgusted ex-fan

{Ed010's Note -my friend, in the past you have payed your hard earned sheckles to Rangers Football Club and you are quite entitled to decide if and when you will stop paying that money.

If I may, I would just like to say something that may just change your mind but may slightly change your views on your decision.

Since the start of the David Murray era, Rangers FC have been seen to pay over the odds for players, sometimes in fees and sometimes in wages. Other clubs have seen us coming and racked up the transfer values of players, knowing full well that we were Rangers and that we would pay what they wanted. Now that the club is back on an even keel and have money to buy players, other clubs still expect us to continue with this happy go lucky policy. Personally I have no problem in Craig Whyte both defending and changing our club's policy on transfer fees. I think that he is right to offer low and test the resolve of other clubs in the current financial climate. Call it pay back from years of "abuse" by others towards us but by adopting this policy, he will ensure that he pays the best price for these players.
I would only ask that you reserve judgement on Craig Whyte and this new way of conducting transfer deals, until the close of the transfer window on 31 August. You and I might both just be surprised at the quality of player that he is able to buy, with this "bid low" policy. Cheers Ed10

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Well said ED. 100% agree.
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100% agree finally got a season ticket after trying for years an my full support is behind Craig whyte and super ally

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Ed while I agree with your post for the most part, depending on how early the Champions League qualifiers are we may need the players before the end of August. Before we went out to Kaunas a few years back SDM had refused to pay for Mendes, Davis, Edu....... that decision meant we went into that game with the central midfield as Thomson, Hemdani and was it Dailly? Ultimately the decision not to sign them cost us £12 million CL money and then we spent the money on them anyway. My point is sometimes you need to take a risk to gain CL entry, spend £6 million now and it may gain £12 but fail to spend until we are out and you just cost yourself money.

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Sparky 72 yer jist a yes man ***ed10 Im not against being sensible wi the bawbees I think its just we are wondering if hes got any tae be sensible with thats the worry!!!are we going tae get the £5million even?....enjoy the shopping heh heh.

{Ed010's Note -lets be fair, Craig Whyte hasn't had a fair crack of the whip, ever since he made public his interest in Rangers. People have questioned his "wealth", his business partners (Mortimer and Ellis), his management skills (or lack of) and most importantly, his reasons for purchasing our club.

I am not in any position to judge Craig Whyte, as I don't know the man from Adam but what is unquestionable is that he has conducted himself in a dignified manner throughout. He has only spoke publically on about three occasions and has came across as a honest man. He knows that his reputation is on the line, if he renages on any of the things that he promised to Sir David Murray, Rangers Football Club and to the Rangers fans. I can only re-iterate that until one or all of these promises are broken, we as Rangers fans, must at least give him the benefit of any doubt. The Scottish media are "against" him and other club's fans are laughing at him, so surely us Rangers fans should be supporting the man this early in the season.

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If u don't want to go back then don't I am sick of saying on this site I would support RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB if they were in any league in the world. The manky mob claim to have the greatest fans in the world we all know that is lies after seeing their half empty cess pit last season but when I come on this site I know 1 thing we have some of the biggest greetin face f***s for fans in the world, a supporter is that some1 who supports the the team through thick and thin I will give u an example my son goes 2 a catholic school and something is said to him every day 2 wind him up does he take the bait no he comes home and ask me more about RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB so he can go in the next day and ram it up there arses he has done that for the last 3 years and do u know what he can't wait till the next game comes along because that is what he is a supporter so if you's don't like it f*** off and stop acting like they wee weans in ma boys school. WATP

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25 Jun 2011 13:28:02
not sure why coisty would say there no transfer targets when the owner stated there would at least six new players signed sky sports interview

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When did mcoist say there wernent transfer targets and we all knw its probs gona b 5-6 cummin in

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25 Jun 2011 13:11:05
Ally McCoist is optimistic Rangers can win the chase for Neil Danns after confirming he is trying to push through a deal for the Crystal Palace midfielder.

Danns is out of contract at Palace and the 28-year-old has been offered a new deal to stay with the Championship club.

However, he is expected to leave Selhurst Park and Gers' Old Firm rivals Celtic, Hull City and Southampton have all been linked with bids.

Premier League club Bolton Wanderers are the latest club mooted as admirers of Danns, but McCoist is hoping to bring the former Birmingham City player to Ibrox.

"There could be information on Neil Danns in a matter of days, " said McCoist in the Daily Record.

"We've been talking to his representatives since he left Crystal Palace and I'm trying to push that one through."

Palace's assistant manager Lennie Lawrence is resigned to Danns moving on, but is confident the club can retain their other key players.

Lawrence told the Croydon Advertiser: "I assume, sadly, that Neil Danns will sign for someone else, but other than that we are not losing anyone else."



from skysports.com

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25 Jun 2011 12:47:14
Ed, I would just like to ask where are the Jason Puncheon rumors away to earlier last month there were lots of rumors floating around are they still true and only forgotten about or is it p*sh.
What about the David Nudgent and Chris Eagles rumors are they dead or still alive .

{Ed010's Note -nice to speak again, as it were. As you will no doubt be aware, when rumours are posted on this website everyone gets excited and the player who is the subject of that rumour becomes a hot topic, at least for a while. Then the next big rumour comes along and that player is soon forgotten about. Jason Puncheon fits into that scenario perfectly. For 2 weeks in the middle of May, rumours concerning him being a Rangers target abounded on a daily basis but since then nothing.
There is absolutely no information, rumour or otherwise, that Rangers are linked with him in any way.

David Nugent is a player who has been associated with both in the lead up to and during every transfer window. Strangely, this is the quietest the rumours and speculation linking us to him have been over the past 3 years. At the moment, I don't think that Nugent is on Ally's radar but who knows.

Chris Eagles is the same as David Nugent, linked to us in the past, indeed came close to signing but the deal fell through. As you rightly say, Eagles was again strongly rumoured to be a target for Ally but again that one has died down. I just hope that it has went quiet because Ally is working frantically behind the scenes, to make him an offer he can't refuse.

So my friend, there you have it, they are all rumours at this stage but in football, you can never say never but unfortunately there is no way of confirming who is a target until the player, his agent or the clubs involved, say so.

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25 Jun 2011 12:28:23
Rangers Ins:

Defenders:
Bardsley - Sunderland (1.5m)
Cuellar - Villa (2-3m)
Bartley - Arsenal (1-2m or loan)
Wallace - Hearts (500-1m)

If we miss out on any of first four targets I think we will get Danny Wilson on loan

Midfielders:
Danns - Crystal palace (Free)
Eagles - Burnley (2-3m)
Bedoya - Obrero (1-2m)

Forwards:

Goodwillie - Dundee United (1.5-2m

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25 Jun 2011 12:22:48
As much as I liked pedro mendes he often went missing in games. I think we could find a better midfield option, hopefully danns does sign along with another midfielder, 3 defenders and maybe a forward(dont think we'll get goodwillie unless he pushes for gers himself).

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25 Jun 2011 12:21:10
The thing that irks me about the whole situation at the club is why we have not a lot of problems on the contract side with the players when walter and bain are there ..now new owners...walter resigned Bain in an acrimonious departure/court case board members kicked off /legal threats made to the record according to ed..no players purchased everybodies too greedy says whyte the majority of these things could have been dealt with internally outwith the public domain but they are not..why?I can understand a transparency strategy but why we have not signed a solitary player when there have clearly been talented and reasonably priced players available escapes me and apart from the "they are too expensive" line One man or company cant change the market place by themselves ..so what are we trying to do? one thing is abundently clear.. that is the team will not be as successful if they are not buying in new talent.. so the only thing to do will be to have lower expectations as fans etc. and hope some miracle occurs that changes our fortunes in the right way but I still doubt that its the Whyte way.

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----------The thing that irks me about the whole situation at the club is why we have not a lot of problems on the contract side with the players when walter and bain are there ------------

WHAT ?????????????


The problems we have with contracts stems from the time Bain was in charge , he helped set them up

The Record printed lies about Whytes actions within the Club and Bains pay rise seems to be 'suspect'

but apart from that you got nothing else right

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The reason the contracts are causing problems must be that the players cant be getting increases they and their agents feel they deserve and they are looking elsewhere ! can you blame them?one thing is for sure you cant blame bain or walter for that they, ve gone so now weve got that out of the way its a typical reaction to look for someone else to blame and you are not any more privvy to the facts than anyone else do you just sit and believe what your told all the time? well just you go and sit at yer telly like a good wee man and wait like the rest of us to see what comes out my man and dont criticise people who really do care about the way things are going.

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25 Jun 2011 11:55:03
Ally McCoist says that dans deal nearly done and that he's keen on cuellar but unlikely to pay 3 million for him ! source sky sports news!

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I don't think we should pay 3M for him either......
31 yr old and hardly kicked a ball the last two seasons.

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Just pay the fecking money fro him he is worth it

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Get the finger out , we have to get these players soon . Ceullar £2.8, goodwillie£2m and wallace £750.000 .grab some free transfers , lots out there.

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Dont want Rangers to overspend on any Tom, Richard and Harry but £3mil seems like a fair price for Cuellar.

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Cuellar is only cumin up for 30 so if u dont knw what ur sayin dont speak atall

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Hes only 29 cummin on 30 get it rite!

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Ally McCoist says that dans deal nearly done and that he's keen on cuellar but unlikely to pay 3 million for him ! source sky sports news!

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I don't think we should pay 3M for him either......
31 yr old and hardly kicked a ball the last two seasons.

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Just pay the fecking money fro him he is worth it

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Get the finger out , we have to get these players soon . Ceullar £2.8, goodwillie£2m and wallace £750.000 .grab some free transfers , lots out there.

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Dont want Rangers to overspend on any Tom, Richard and Harry but £3mil seems like a fair price for Cuellar.

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he turns 30 soon , saying that how many people said Big Davie Weir was past it when he signed? what age was he? we sold carlos for what 9-10 million so to get him back for 2 mill is a bit cheeky ?

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25 Jun 2011 11:08:46
I'm a little bit annoyed at the lack of action coming from our camp.

The season starts in a month and we are refusing to spend any money.

I understrand Mr Whyte is doing his business shrewdly, but we need to start adding some players so they have time to blend into the team.

For future revenue we NEED to qualify for the Champions League and with no players on board I don't think we can do that.

RB.

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Exactly mate we need to pay the cash for cuellar its that fecking simple an whyte is penny pinching

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I'm a little bit annoyed at the lack of action coming from our camp.

The season starts in a month and we are refusing to spend any money.

I understrand Mr Whyte is doing his business shrewdly, but we need to start adding some players so they have time to blend into the team.

For future revenue we NEED to qualify for the Champions League and with no players on board I don't think we can do that.

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Exactly mate we need to pay the cash for cuellar its that fecking simple an whyte is penny pinching

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Transfer day starts 1st July - 31st August
Calm down fellow bears, No one has left , (weiss/bartley) they didnt play the last few games???and the way we finished off the last 6 games last year , were in no rush , but we defo need at least 3-4 new player come the 1st Sept

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25 Jun 2011 10:16:15
Arsenal to buy Mcgregor for 12 m
Or 10m with bartely on loan
They wanted him in January what do you think ed?

{Ed010's Note - there have been several threads over the last few weeks on the subject of Allan McGregor. These range from if he should or shouldn't be sold, to if he was for sale, what would be an acceptable transfer fee.

If Craig Whyte is to be believed then Allan McGregor is not for sale. What is "strange" about Whyte's statement is that he never once mentioned that old footballing adage "if an unbelievable offer was to come in, we would have to seriously consider it because every player has his price".

That begs the question, are we now the only football club in the world that doesn't believe that is the case ?

If Whyte were to change his mind and sanction the sale of Allan McGregor, then in my opinion, a fee of around £8m would be a reasonable starting point but obviously, we would be looking for more. A fee of £10m plus Kyle Bartley (not a loan), would be acceptable to me.

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Today's Glasgow Herald reports that Rangers have reached a verbal agreement with McGregor on a contract extention until 2015.

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This indicates to me that it is NOT vital to sell before we can buy, which is heartening in itself ed, but the fact we are allegedly going in at the lower bids 1st, that is a worry. The other thing is that the wage bracket being banded around, if the rumours are to be believed at £5g - £6g, is far more of a concern if we expect to attract CL standard players to Ibrox, what say you ed ? Rangers 'til I die

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Cheers ed always doing a good job on here ;)

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The fact that Whittaker was offered £20k a week blows the rumour out the water re 5-6k wage limits. Whether it depends on the player or not is another question but the fact he offered Whitts treble his current salary suggests he will dig deep for the right players! Keep believing!

G

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25 Jun 2011 05:00:04
Ed10 is the celtic edoo7 bitter, i know we all like a bit of banter, some one on that mobs banter page said carlos was gonna sign for them, clearly a few gers fans including me said no chance aT which point the celtic ed went on a wee rant aboot him being mince n naw gd enough fur celtic. Everyone go have a look quiet funny considering hes the best centre thats been in scottish football for a good few years

Thinks hes worried

Ten in a row - 7 to go!!

Watp

{Ed010's Note - My friend, I can give you a categoric guarantee that "Ed007" is at the wind up. Yes, he is an ardent Celtic supporter and will defend his club stoutly against any "attacks" against his club and their players. He will publish articles about Rangers, their players and their targets and add an "arguementative editors note, in an attempt to solicit a "reaction", from both Rangers and Celtic fans.

Initially, each Ed has a different way off dealing with things like that, as there is no right or wrong way. I prefer not to publish articles which are obviously blatant lies (Cuellar linked to Celtic) as I personally think that post like that serve no purpose in the grand scheme of things.

In Ed007's defence, he has more time on his hands because the Celtic pages aren't that busy, compared to the Rangers pages. We are now ranked third in the "football rumours" family, in terms of posts and traffic and that is down entirely to you and other contributors.

Let's get to Number 1, a position to which we are accustomed !

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It would be easier to be no. 1 if some eds posted my comments/rumours/banter instead of name calling.
the tiger - STILL beyond reproach


{Ed010's Note -I can't speak for other Eds but I can assure you Tiger, that if your posts conform to site rules they will be published without any "name calling".

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25 Jun 2011 06:29:42
'Just heard Rangers have agreed a fee with Dundee Utd for David Goodwillie, 2m (Whyte finally paying).
Also Kenny Miller coming back for 350,000.
And Wallace fee agreed at 750,000'Just being reading down and gave thumbs up for a few interesting and believable posts then I come to this. Really? How convenient. Rangers offer £1.25 for Goodie, they want £2m and we agree? Not more likely that Whyte would offer £1.5m first? What's next, here ye go Villa, £3m just like you said? Unless Whytey boy just won £105m on the Euromillions,

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No they havent

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25 Jun 2011 03:54:40
Gee-whizz guys! Wot is all the dissing Whyte all about?! Personally I think we should just wait n see his worth rather than shoot the guy down. Afterall, Bain was the 'face' of rangers and the supposed 'PR' guru for the last how many years? And what did he do? I'll tell u....NOTHING! Gers were left behind in the oversees, European and world Market! The scum top is known most places worldwide, is Rangers? ...NO! no coincidence, they hv marketed, touted n signed into foreign leagues and gers hv not. Shirt sales alone for past 'big name' signing hv paid more than enough for their 'marquee' signings wages again n again. So maybe mr whyte has seen this and is willing to change it? And I agree with the slant he appears to b taking. If whittaker doesn't want a deal then sell, cash in and goodbye. Rangers need players who want to b here and play for the club. Weiss, heally for example. In my opinion Whittaker isn't good enough for rangers let alone b one of the highest earners? Gers need men for the jersey not boys for money or status! Ask the 9 in a row team wot they preferred?! J

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Bain got us jelavic what has whyte done apart from make us a laughing stock we bid 300.000 for wallace who has 1year left on deal but we want 2mill for whittaker who has 1 year deal left this guy needs to keep quiet untill players are signed

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We cant say whyte is rubbish till the end of the transfer window. remember it doesnt open till july 1st

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ITS ALREADY OPEN FOR THE LAST TIME U IDIOT WHY DO U THINK TEAMS HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT PLAYERS. SAKE MAN STOP WITH THE BS. rant over

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You are just like the rest of the fans who no nothing pal..you just go whatever way the tide does you dont have a clue about anything...ignorance is bliss.

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I think you will find that the transfer window doesnt open until 1st july all deals being done now are bosmans if a player is signing from another club for a transfer fee well you see were im going with this rangers fans stop slagging each other even if you suspect celtic fan indisguise big rab by the way

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Dont write stuff about people when there right look it up transfer window opens 1 july

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The transfer window doesn't open till 1st July. Man utd have agreed to sign players but their contracts don't start till 1st July. Why call the guy an idiot when he's right? It looks like you are one and talk out your bum. Lol ha ha ha

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25 Jun 2011 01:56:56
Alex Salmond was in Murray Park today explaining that the bigotry must stop, shortly after, Mr.Salmond sneezed and a news reporter(press) replied "bless you"...He is to appear in Glasgows Sherrif Court on tuesday

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25 Jun 2011 01:11:56
Has danns signed for rangers...or is it another falsey lol...

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25 Jun 2011 01:03:48
Coistys wishlist

Weiss £3m
Cuellar £2.5m
Goodwillie £1.5m +add ons
Wallace £650k
Driver £1.5m*

Danns Free
Hitzielsperger Free
Bartley or Wilson Loan
Vela or Obertan Loan

Out:
Weir Free
Bougherra £1.5m

Fleck Loan could be loaned to D Utd as part of Goodwillie package if not Rangers may loan to Aberdeen as C Brown is big fan of youngster in exchange for Foster on loan again.

*If Whittaker is sold for same Fee
£9m spent with £3m received in fees if Whittaker/Driver deals concluded

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25 Jun 2011 00:54:05
check out the story regarding walter smith and take that in todays scottish sun.. .classic

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25 Jun 2011 00:44:05
for the guy thats says danns was talkin to arron maclean on twitter is talkin bull

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25 Jun 2011 00:38:16
Danns in liverpool so he has been nowhere near ibrox or Murray park!

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