Rangers Banter Archive February 25 2012
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25 Feb 2012 23:13:41
Oh how the "mighty" have fallen,
just heard that Rangers are travelling
to Inverness tomorrow morning by COACH
no luxury hotel, or air journey like
Celtic do when they go there.
Hope they have some good dvd's to
pass the time hail hail Timalloy
Ps hope they paid for a driver or
poor old Ally has a long drive on his
hands!
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Ha shows what you no part-time fan who's never been to parkhead... Rangers are already in Inverness !
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I know what Celtic do when they go there, their bottle crashes. Wee bit of competition and you lose it.
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Where's the luxury hotel in Inverness, have you been to Inverness ?
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9in a row DVDs sure that will keep our boys happy.
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Serioulsy dhimalloy wat will you do if we do dissapear? I know you will have a laugh for a few weeks/months but when this site closes (rangers rumours) then where to next? Im concerned for your mental well being, I suggest getting a kitten or puppy for therapy and keep in close contact with your support team. Youll be fine...just stay on the meds ;) Dr Bear.
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They say goldfish are very theraputic.
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25 Feb 2012 22:48:44
if and a big if somebody or consortium take the bears over can they not some how say before they take over that any kind of sectarian sing wont be tollerated and if it continued then they will walk away and liquidate the club or something along those lines, the fans will cost the club fines and possible point reductions in the future. thoughts guys .
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It's a good idea in theory mate, but in practice it's proven not to work. look at what both teams have come out and said, time and again, yet these morons continue with their nonsense. the only real way to deal with them is identify and ban them
taco
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Why would anyone invest money only to liquidate on the grounds of others behaviour.
Bfh
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It's bulls**t there's too many teams that sing songs that may be classed as sectarian not just rangers and to add to it what song that rangers sing is sectarian? Just asking because there hasn't been an official list sayin what is sectarian and what isn't so songs will continue to be sing if nobody jokes what is classed as sectarian and what isn't. Not condoning what is sectarian and what isn't but I'm I the orange order and most of the songs that are played and sung at marches aren't classed as sectarian they are nearly classed as loyalist songs or Irish folk songs
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Good point willie. anyways, this 'sectarian' problem is nowhere near as bad at ibrox as it was even 10 years ago. definately a difference in the atmosphere nowadays to be honest. a big shout to guys in the blue order and the more recently introduced union bears.
james rfc 1980
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I think you'll find that the likes of the sash, famine song, derrys walls are banned songs....in fact, any of your songs that glorify murdering catholics, and generally speak of hatred are banned.
society doesn't need people like you who continue to foist your poison, be it with your marches or sectarian order
taco
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@willie; if only there was a book that explained what words mean..........
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Why not produce a list of songs which are offensive and therefore There will be no doubt as what is allowed. Yes some may be upset but I prefer to sing Rangers songs as opposed to Irish heritage songs. We are a Scottish team with a proud heritage, let's sing about that. We have enough problems being the victims of a fraud and we don't need dragged over the coals as well for sectarian singing.
Follow, Follow!
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Good time too get to get to gether for songbook of songs we can sing new beginning
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Surely as a grown men you are able to tell as to what is deemed sectarian or offensive to other people without asking for a songbook. Do you need a rule book for living your everyday life to tell you what's right or wrong? Didn't think so, so stop the 'we need a songbook' sh!te
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To you Taco where. Or when are the songs the sash or derrys walls glorifying killing catholic s there is not one word in these songs glorifying killing catholic s so don't think you can spout your p**h without being pulled up about it.await your reply .
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Agree with the above post there's no glorifying killing Catholics in any of those songs in fact there's no songs that rangers fans sing that states that. The sash is an Irish folk song and derrys walls is the same and you can't stop the singing of these songs as there is a lot of ulstermen who come over from ulster and have season tickets for ibrox
Willie
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Taco the sash n derrys walls aint banned do ur research be4 spoutin bullsh#t on here famine n billy boys yes
TB
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To the unnamed poster....read my post again before you think you can pull me up about it, and stop jumping on the defensive.
you know these songs are banned, and the reasons why
taco
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'billy boys' which was clearly heard but hardly reported was sung by many a bear v kilmarnock, this song indeed glorifies killing catholics, and should not be heard in modern society. likewise pro- IRA songs sung at many a celtic away game makes the majority of celtic fans squirm, but its the minority that spoil it these days which is sad, celtic and rangers supporters only enjoy supporting their teams however the 'bad element' will always lurk in the background unfortunately
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12.45pm: First thing heard from the fans when the coverage started was 'Billy Boys'.
Is this song not offensive with references to killing Catholics?
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Iam the original poster maybe sectarian songs was the wrong words for it but i think you all know the songs i meant , the ones thats going to get our club euro bans , points deducted , money fines . money that we dont have may i point out, their might be guys out their wanting to take over but they keep hearing all the s**t comeing from the stands , we need to move on guys and that includes across the city. its the 21st century.
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Derrys walls and the sash ain't banned! geez oh stop clutchin straws mate, the only one that's been banned is billy boys and the famine song, no other song if i can mind doesn't have any sectarian words in them, rangers fans please correct me for example, name other songs that has sectarian words in them, Stewie
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25 Feb 2012 22:27:16
Got to laugh at those tims. tainted title, Keep gone on about how rangers have cheated, Lest they forget they cheated the taxman for years by saying only 20,000 at parkhead when a lot more attending during the 50s, 60s, 70s during their 9 in a row. Only diffrence is its bigger bucks now hence why taxman chasing rangers and innocent till proven.
ed can you ofirm taxman looking into way players wages payed through other methods i.e sponsorship of some sort not only in scotland.
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ANOTHER gers man in pain,cant face whats bringing his club into the gutter&embarrasing day by day,i.e..police investigations,mps,tax authoritys,sfa.spl.now sectarian chanting,not to mention a manager who has been kod out 4ccups,blowin a massive lead,has no tactical ideas&is well out his depth,so concentrate on the shambles that is RFC-IN ADMINISTRATION!!
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Iam a Rangers man and we cant keep going on about what celtic done years ago thats past we should be concentrating on our own club just now all we are doing is lowering ourself to these guys texts , worried bear.
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What you seem to forget my friend is during those days quite a few fans(mostly the young team) would jump over the turn-styles or double up at the turn-styles,very common thing back then at most clubs.
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I agree worried bear and every other ger on here, any post from a Celtic fan just ignore it don't respond. If they wanna waste time on here let them.
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Here here actually, even though they are annonying !
james rfc 1980
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25 Feb 2012 21:58:50
ed could the sfa take rangers league
titles off them from 2000 to 2011 cause
one of ma pals (big tim) says that rangers
will be strip of the titles {Ed001's Note - it is highly unlikely that titles will be stripped.}
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If this happened to rangers what about man utd 475 million in red and all other clubs including smeltic up till 5 weeks ago were 9 million in the red
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Here we go 12 in a row.....Stevie
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Mr Ostrich get yer heed out of the sand and face the facts your clubs in admin and could be liquidated , smeltic as you call them arent as man u arent ,so titles are very much valid.....Stevie
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Doooooooooooh.but not through irregularities which is the whole point
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It's got nothing to do with being in debt ya tube! it's because you defrauded the tax man
taco
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There is nothing wrong with debt as long as its manageable ie Celtic,man u and probably every other club in the world are in debt but pay it off. What rangers have done is try beat the system and not pay what they are duly bound to pay. In a nutshell it's called cheating!
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To the anonymous poster above this - nothing proved yet pal, remember that. celtic fan no doubt, surprise surprise. people think rangers have already lost this case. the admin at the moment is due to whyte's disastrous 9 month reign.
james rfc 1980
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9-15million in unpayed tax since may last year thats cheating the taxman and its been proved thats why your in administration
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25 Feb 2012 21:23:12
Just back from the pictures with my kids, and The Muppets spring to mind when i think of rankers!
If anyone has seen the film i recommend it for supporters of our "mighty" rivals! The Muppets hold a telethon to raise money..........only difference being The Muppets put on a show!
Jelly and ice cream all round!
DazzaBhoy
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Aye heard kris commons was good in it aka cookie monster, glad ur kids enjoyed it , im taking mine on monday....... more a ice cream special helicopter sundae person though.
craig+babybear
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Enjoy it then,cos you wont be having them for a while
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Cookie monster was in Sesame Street m8, not the muppets!
Jelly and ice cream all round!
DazzaBhoy
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25 Feb 2012 21:02:29
I know I'm being a bit of a fa&&y troops, but why is it better to be from the UK, rather than be proud scottish troops, I'm far Glasgow let's be Glasgow rangers .
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Oh, lets be.
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For a start there is no such team glasgow rangers who r they pis#es me off gers fans dont actual no the name of our great club
TB
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All right give is our Sunday best name mate Rangers F C. Let's pretend you don't understand where I'm coming from an flip what I'm saying out off all proportion so you don't need to answer the question.
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No Glasgow in Rangers and soon to be no Rangers in Glasgow.
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25 Feb 2012 20:18:43
Do you know what I have been following all the posts and responses on here in the last couple of weeks. I'm a Rangers fan and as most have been, looking for information however speculative on the situation we find our self in.
But I am going to ask both sides blame each other for the sectarian songs and attitude towards each other. So why does it happen it is all a front in my opinion . We all work and live together, why. Of just hate each other for being rangers and Celtic. Its weird that we all argue about things that have passed 300 years , but we care so little about what the government and big multinational company's inflict on us just now. Remember the Scottish people are sovereign
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A bit of a deep conversation for this time of night. Away and get yurself a wee dram son an chill oot.
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Unfortunately me and single malt are not on speaking terms any more. I have a habit of throwing chairs through windows or parking cars on residential walls when I have anything to do with mr glenfiddich on mr knockindoe but my question stands cheers troops.
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Agree mate , my mates are split half gers half green , not sure why sectarian stuff is still here tbh.. aye have a laugh and joke and its hard for us gers the now but swings and roundabouts . i dont like jelly and i think the ice cream is about to melt craig+babybear
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25 Feb 2012 20:35:52
Mccoist manager of year 20 str8 wins,cup final,n scottish cup,n 23 points clear,n a scottish cup in the bank,o blast me its neil lennon glad rangers fans have choked on their hatred for a man regardless of anything is all about football not politics nobody can take anything away from him a great manager is judged by how he deals when side not good n he flourished,mccoist is not fit to fill in a team sheet let alone manage rangers,(even with situation),i not going into that but wish all best n sortin it,but mccoist seriously
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Tainted title
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Yeah that's why he dresses like a ned, acts like a ned and is in fact a ned. The only reason he is not shown up this season is they have had all the decisions, Rangers have managed to make a mess of it on and off the park. Put some pressure on him and his true nature shows and will show again.
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Above poster, so celtic havent won it, rangers have lost it? credit where credit is due pal, whether you detest the man or not hes done great, the ned had no bearing on rangers 4 cup exits or points lost in league, that was ALL Mr Mccoists fault, not Lennon or HMRC!
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25 Feb 2012 20:34:08
You know I'm sick of hearing clowns parading as sports journalists banging on about things they obviously know nothing about. If I hear about one more source from HMRC or a wink tipped about the big tax case I think I'll lose it. HMRC employees are bound by the official secrets act which would mean jail time and the judges on the tribunal would never give any clue what's going on. One hint of a leak and the case would risk collapse. The truth is until the decision is made noone knows what will happen. One thing for sure is that a lot of people have a lot of questions to answer. WATP
The great Waldo Pepper
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Well said.
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Agree mate 100% nonsense, this will never become clear who is responsible, or who is buying the way they have been directed, all we can hope for is the continuance of the old firm. Either that or the franchise is right out the window, who knows though if it happens, perhaps hearts, Killy or motherwell might end up with a shout. I ask you can you really get by without at least 4 old firms a year £&@" that you would be as well going shopping with the missus. Alex McI .
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Wonder who clicked disagree supports eh.
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Listen Alex McI there is no such thing as the "Old Firm" franchise , Rangers don't own any franchise , you sold your image rights (To JJB) and all your club shops apart from the one at the stadium , Celtic neither need nor want to be lumped in with you lot , for a number of reasons , we own all our image rights and are a viable global brand , yous are on your own my man .
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Ha don't flatter yourselves mate! now barcelona. is a global franchise!
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25 Feb 2012 20:28:08
Do you know what guys, I have just been thinking ,that due to what we are finding out about what's going on at Rangers over the last few years, Big McLeish deserves hero status for what he achieved, who could forget helicopter Sunday. I left the house that day to go shopping that day and came across two Celtic fans crying. Couldn't believe it . Alex McLeish Rangers ledgend.
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When thit was not going to win anything i left house with gf to go shopping,WE DONT DO WALKING AWAY, comedy gold,(u a glory hunter)
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Whay are you on about
"due to what we are finding out about what's going on at Rangers over the last few years, Big McLeish deserves hero status for what he achieved"
What do you think actually went on.
Let me tell you. Rangers, due to the use of EBTs, were able to buy players they otherwise wouldn't have been able to afford and that resulted in them cheating to win trophies.
Rangers benefited from this during the McLeish years, they were not put at a disadvantage, as your post makes out.
What a fud.
Why don't you respond and give us your mighty insight into what difficulties McLeish encountered.
I'm quite sure other Rangers fans will be embarassed by your ridiculous post.
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Wow mat you been sniffing glue, I would. E as well trying to decipher the da Vinci code .
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I know that he probably shouldnt have won as many honours as he did, if I remember Alex McLeish won more trophys than Martin oniell think about that bears
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25 Feb 2012 20:16:02
PLANET TACO-
POPULATION 1
You've just shown your true colours my man,you've just shown sheer contempt for another side calling them pathetic your a disgrace its not the rangers players fault we are in deep shyt.no strikers,threadbare squad redundancys looming through the greed of one man you hail as a saviour.. get a grip.We have kept your Barcelona-esque world beating team from the title the past 3 seasons Why don't you step out of your green and white bedroom mate your never off this site.
WE ARE THE PEOPLE
jacko {Ed014's Note -
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Rangers demise is all their own making.
1. Minty Murray was the start of your financial downfal.
2. The Whyte Knight who is a billionaire with wealth of the radar has continues your downfall.
3. You the Rangers supporters laped it all up, you're totally complicite in your clubs downfall. What were the cries "For every £5 Celtic spend Rangers will spend £10", and the other "In Whyte we trust".
No sympathy, stop feeling sorry for yourself. Cheating your way to titles.
Your time has come.
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Aye, £80m in debt and not a peep from the Rangers support. And as for those clowns the RST, the Blue Order and whatever else, surely they should have been asking questions. The likes of David Edgar giving media interviews, the guy was a total clown. And as for this eejit Dingwall that is now bopin his chops on any tv programme he can get on, he's another toothless waste of space.They are the voice of the supporters are they not? Why were questions not asked.
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Go for the positions and put your head on the block to be chopped down by the likes of you
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You're damn right i have contempt for rangers, like the rest of scotland does as well, why not? should i have repect for them? respect their sectarian policies? respect their flouting of the law? respect their tax scams?
and who exactly is this 'greed of one man that i hail as a saviour??
stay off the glue, i know your type
taco
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You last title win was gained by a run of the dodgiest decisions in the history of football.
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How do u know its 80 million pound do you work for the tax office.
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The £80m referred to is the debt Rangers had in the time of David Murray. Keep up will you, Celtic supporters know more about your club than you do.
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The team is pathetic though - beaten at home by a Killie team that was yesterday pumped at home by Hibs!
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Taco you really are a bitter twisted little man. Everything you hate is held by just a few. NOT RANGERS as a whole.
Your life is being overrun by the simple minded idiots who attach themselves to our club.
I truly feel sorry for you. You have more hatred for our club than love for your own. I have no interest in Celtic whatsoever, NONE. I do however realise that Scottish football needs Celtic as it does Rangers, Aberdeen, Motherwell etc.
You however can never bring yourself to admit that. To be a man, it's not possible to be a man whilst living like a boy, a pre-pubescent little boy.
From now on I will ignore everything you have to say in your pathetic posts. I will not acknowledge your lack of intelligence after this post. You bore me, you are uninteresting, you are weak minded, you are bitter.
GDog
WATP
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25 Feb 2012 20:06:39
hhhm. 40000 plus attendance at parkhead, still not a bad turn out. HMRC will be happy with the revenue generated from that crowd. at least they now it will be handed over to them. better a crowd of 10 who pay there way than a crowd of 50000 who give two hoots about paying their dues.
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Another goldfish in denial, you forgetting the pre electronic turn style days. Euro nights with 80k attendance, released attendance 50k. Biscuit tin!!! You really are a fud
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25 Feb 2012 19:17:57
So is ally going to be the best manager ever...I think he is brilliant .He must stay for at least another 5years ..Mind the gap...23 points
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I would give him a 15 year contract right now!
so that, in his last year, when he finally gains promotion to the spl, Celtic can gub his pathetic team by another 35 points :)
taco
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Until he gets the same financial backing Mr Lennon has had from the board then the judgement is out on him. He's doing the job with his hands tied behind his back. Surely anybody can see that?
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Celtic spent 3.6m
Rangers spent 3.9m
so, you mean give him less then?
lol
taco
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I don't think his hands are tied behind his back, he's clearly using something to stuff his face with pies.
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The point is Lennon has been backed for 2 seasons and hasn't been working until financial constraints Ally has.
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The money spent on transfers suggests differently. or can't you do maths?
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Obviously maths is not your strong point Taco then again don't expect anything ese, Lennon has bought about 25 players you nugget.
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What about the financial restraints every manager in scotland had(except rangers)when they could spend 12 million on one player?rangers claimed to have no dough since 2007 yet nearly outspent celtic.
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Lennon could have brought in 1000 players, it still doesn't change the fact that mccoist has spent more in transfers.....yet again, more of this 'nae dough' nonsense you lot keep coming away with
do one, and try and think before you call someone a nugget....it doesn't make you look too sensible when you're wrong;)
taco
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Taco, use yer heed hen!! you's need to pay those players wages every week ya clown!! something rangers can't do
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25 Feb 2012 18:53:12
Timalloy Productions Presents...
Musicals with a Topical Theme...
You Can't have Everything
Till the Clouds Roll By
You'll Never Get Rich
The Five Pennies
The Best things in Life are Free
Is Everybody Happy
Meet the People (No Thanks!)
Chasing Rainbows
The March of Time
Cheer up and Smile
The Cuckoos (aka bears, ostriches)
The Phantom President
George Whites Scandals (aka Craig)
Go on SMILE, I dare all you bears
LOL Timalloy
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I smile at the fact that I'm not as bitter as you
Canyousaybanana!!
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What is bitter about Timalloy's post. C'mon tell us, give us a clue.
If this was the type of banter between all supporters then we'd have no trouble, no bigotry, no sectarianism and no bitterness.
So come on spell it out, where is the bitterness.
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Spell it out? Who said there was ANY bitterness in dhimalloys post?
Canyousaybanana!!
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Canyousaybanana - I trust you do not know Timalloy personally. So your comment can only refer to his posts. You can not know anything else about him or form any opinion about him other than from his posts.
You clearly said "I'm not as bitter as you". So therefore you can only be rerering to his posts.
So the question remains, what is bitter about his posts.
Or to ask you an ever more direct question. How is he bitter, because you're post states that he is, namely "I'm not as bitter as you".
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Canyousaybanana - how is Timalloy bitter.
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Timalloy is there somethin wrong with u dull tim u laugh out load at ur own posts
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25 Feb 2012 18:08:18
Still 7,000 empty seats today hmmm the best fans in the world don't even go when they are winning.
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16,000 Rangers suporters at Ibrox v Dundee Utd.
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Official CELTIC FC report of 7,000 empty seats, they were told Fat Sally was coming and needed to give him enough space LOL Timalloy
PS Mind the Grand Canyon hail hail
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That's hilarious. You need to go into administration before u fill your stadium. Or, as the tone of your post suggests, do you only go to Ibrox when you are winning
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Top of the league,on course to win for first time in years,still cant sell out your ground,Rangers drowning in debt,no strikers,injury list as long as your arm,full house against Killie.Rangers,the peoples club.
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Walk Away it's the Rangers Way.
70 minutes gone ......... time to head for the exits chaps.
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Tesco, Edminston Drive will soon be far busier on a Saturday afternoon than the previous football ground that stood there.
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17,000 at ipox against united ..hmmm
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Injury list???lafferty not injured,just cant play1 more game,or 800,000 owed!,naismith-injured himself,diving into tackle!whittaker;never a footballer!remember the 15point lead was overturned when yous lot had the mighty JELAVIC!ohhh & how many injuries have celtic had??far more than gers,so wind yer neck in& watch the celtic juggernaut roll on to the treble&years of dominance!!!!!!!!!stevo!
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Rangers-BEEN THE BETTER TEAM SINCE 1872
AndyBear98
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25 Feb 2012 17:28:26
By looking at the disagree buttons up an down this page I'm starting to wonder if these Celtic "fans" actually go to any games...these "fans" are to busy talking a good game do they forget there is one been played... "I remember in 94'... Every hour on the hour... Blah blah blah... Outside parkshed.. Blah blah" you must of seen it on the news coz ya sure as p!ss wernt their! PaulRFC
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PaulRFC - obsessed with and loves Celtic.
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We only read these posts because the tv
is really bad on a Saturday night. The only comedy available is on this site.
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25 Feb 2012 17:25:30
I think Rangers have to be very careful of this character Andrew Ellis.
He is appointed as a Rangers director on 24 January 2012 and on 14 February 2012, only 3 weeks later, Rangers go into administration.
He had made a statement apologising for introducing Craig Whyte to Rangers, and claiming he never knew what Whyte was upto, but I think that the club needs to be very careful as to what Ellis is upto.
There is something that just doesn't sit quite right here.
Whyte took over Ranger in May 2011 and not until over 8 months later is Ellis appointed.
Ellis needs to be questioned and asked the following:
1. Why was he apointed by Whyte on 24 January 2012.
2. What did he and Whyte agree his role at the club was.
3. What is his role.
4. Why was he not apointed to this role until 24 January 2012.
5. Why was he not required in the preceeding 8 months.
6. What are the terms of his contract and salary and what further add ons does he receive.
7. Has Whyte paid any money from Rangers bank account to Ellis or any of his companies, prior to him taking up post.
8. Ali Russell and Gordon Smith have been made redundant. Why has Ellis, only just in the door, not been made redundant.
9. What conversations has he had with the administrators.
There are probably many other relevant questions the posters to this site can come up with.
Is this man Whyte's eyes and ears during the administration process and Whyte's appointed administrators Duff and Phelps are playing ball.
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Aye its no whyte its all ellis get a life
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TB - the point is not that it is all Ellis that is at fault. The point is that it is Whyte that is at fault, and that Whyte is using Ellis within his plan to strip Rangers of assets.
Try reading the post again, and in particular the last paragraph. If Ellis is Whyte's eyes and ears then that means Whyte is calling the shots, not Ellis.
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25 Feb 2012 16:58:49
Hate to say "I told you so" - but I did ! Celtic 23points ahead . Easy !
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-10 points -2 games in hand=6 hmmmmmmmm slash 16 points off not so big now eh u stupid tim
AndyBear98
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25 Feb 2012 16:26:52
When dust settles a I house enquiry team of butch wilkins ,Brian laudraup ,Jim mccoll David weir and Stefan klos to sort the shambles of our youth policy from age 12 to first team and a
l recommendations to be acted on, I agree give youth a chance
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25 Feb 2012 15:41:09
the most enlightening thing that has happened of late is the sale of those arsenal shares. the club is in administration and they would have been considered an asset which would certainly have been claimed by one or other of the creditors. it's nonsense to say they are part of rangers heritage and should not have been sold. it looks to me as though mr. whyte has been 'putting company assets out of the reach of creditors'. people may yet have to eat their words as far as mr. whyte is concerned. all of these former directors who have come forward had plenty of chances to 'save the club' before but didn't. why should they be trusted now anymore than mr. whyte ? rangers fc was bankrupted through the policies of the previous administration. i think they should all quietly slink away. this club is in terrible trouble and craig whyte didn't put it there, he is either sorting out the mess in his own inimitable style or is cashing in on a complete cock up. most likely both. i think the fans should hold onto their money until such times as rangers fc is a safe place to put it. the game has just begun as regards which vulture gets first tear at the corpse. remember this, this is a business, these are hard headed businessmen and no-one should give them a penny without a share certificate in return.
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Well said that man.
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Whyte was not putting assets out of the reach of creditors. Whyte was first and foremost putting assets out of reach of Rangers and within the gripping grasp of Craig Whyte, the creditors just happen to be a by-product of this.
Much sense to the rest of your post though.
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25 Feb 2012 15:18:38
if spl teams have to have 2 under 21 scottish players on the bench why do celtic never follow this rule ?
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I think you need to brush up on the rules before you start to mouth off
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Is it not 3, and do they have to be Scottish?
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Don't forget they have a "dossier" on the SFA , probably explains the decisions and lack of cards they get lol. Devalued league and tainted title.
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Go taco, enlighten us with regard to the rule, pretty dumb response mate suggests you either dont know it either or you lot are cheating.
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It's 3 players you've to have in your match day squad unfortunately they do have. Ger4ever
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When will you learn? there is only one team that cheats in scottish football!
for the ill-informed, uneducated and ignorant amongst us, the rules state that a team must have 3 outfield under 21's. there is no rule regarding they must be subs, and scottish
apologies accepted
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Check your stats mate. Celtic have got the youngest team in the league
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Celtic can meet this requirement with the players they have in the starting 11 hence a strong bench of experienced players.
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Check your stats mate. Celtic have got the youngest team in the league
Why did you respond with this having a young team is irrelevant. The guy was talking about having a certain number of under 21s not the average age of your team. Pointless post
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25 Feb 2012 15:04:02
as one of very few rangers supporters on this site, i suggest we go and carryon oor discussion on the celtic page. theres a lot less celtic fans on it. but too be honest they'll probably just follow us over there, as there more interested in rangers than celtic. see you's over there.
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They are pure cling ons man. PaulRFC
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Paulrfc,pure cling on's? does that mean undiluted cling on's? cos thats just daft.
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No daft a!se it means what I say it means... An that's that you lot are pure cling ons man! PaulRFC
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Paulrfc,of course it's daft,how can you be an undiluted cling on? unless you have an alternative term for pure?
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Paulrfc,you wearing star trek jim-jams?
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Your the purist of the pure mate! PaulRFC
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Paulrfc.more gibberish,i really hope you have been drinking.
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I've had a few, long nite ahead, 3am channel 34 ;)
But that's by the by an that's how it is. PaulRFC
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25 Feb 2012 14:52:35
Good afternoon ed, afternoon bears,are all that card board cut outs doing their usual...an that is pretending their at the "game"? Sad when grown men feel the need to do this...interesting reading that post about Paul Murray an Brian Kennedy I also found a couple of sources that seem to confirm this,so don't listen to timmy they no nothing,I feel we could be close to turning our luck around an that lot can't stand the thought! PaulRFC
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Not for a long time mate.artybhoy
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Well well what a surprise... There's a Celtic game on , parklegosheds probably nowhere near full even though your on a (diddy) treble... An what are you doing mr cut out? Your on a rangers website leaving little back handed comments to a rangers fan... MY CASE IS RESTED! PaulRFC
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Whats wrong with that?i dont go to games anymore.still love the tic,and its so funny watching gers fall apart.artybhoy
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Hi paul did you get your hmrc burger at the mac d,s in ibrox yet
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Ha,ha.forgot that person swallowed that.brilliant
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What would b "diddy" bout the treble? Were rangers thrown out both cups as a result of their tax dodging or admin? Were Celtic handed the last 20 wins in a row as a result? Didn't think so, have yer ten points back and still 13 behind, mind the canyon! L1888
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25 Feb 2012 14:45:59
Hi. Firstly let me explain that I'm not
a diehard fan, however I do always
look for the Rangers scores first.
I would just like to warn the fans
who were intending to raise funds
for Mr McCoist and the Club.
If you raise these funds and decide
to gift them to the Club there will be
two outcomes.
Firstly HMRC will be able to deduct
Gift Tax after the first £3200 at 40%
and secondly Mr Whyte will be
entitled to 85% of these monies as
befits his percentage shareholding.
Recommend holding any funds in
trust until after any legal issues are
resolved. Hope this helps and Good
Luck.
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Thanks for your support... An if what you say is true then yes I would agree fully. Is what he says true ed? PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - it depends on how it is entered into the accounts, if the money is used in return for shares in the club, ie a fans partial buy out, then it would not be subject to gift tax.}
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25 Feb 2012 14:39:10
hypathetical question. worst case scenario, what could the rangers debt reach?
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In my guess approx £100 million.
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HMRC Big Tax Case £65m
HMRC Current Case £15m
Ticketus £40m (technically not a debt)
Craig Whyte £18m
Other creditors £5m
Total £143m.
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....How can we be owing Ticketus £40 million and Craig Whyte £18 million?..
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25 Feb 2012 13:57:45
as a tim i come in peace!personally i couldn`t give 2 f`s about yous, but my daughter(celtic supporter not been raised as i`ve been)points it out to me we are being very childish as celts(the bigger people,the greater team)should not be belittling your attempts to save your club as our only rivals, it chokes ME to say that keep it up as your true supporters deserve it,and plz believe me that kills me to say this,but we do want to play you c**ts next season as WE KNOW we have a much better squad and young team than you!!! not a devaluded league as we have a 10 point lead without you DROPPPING 10 points.(mis-managing of your team). i could only pray you are here next season as you will be giving a lesson on how a football club is properly run.kb-bhoy
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Lets hope she wasn t raised as you have been, going by your comments. And that is you ' in peace', you are a sad little bigot, get over it.
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I agree with last post what a bitter bitter man you are i hope your daughter never turns out to be like you oh and one other thing i would never call you lot Tims....... I have to much respect to lower myself down to that sort of level so go and boil yer heed. Peaceful Rangers fan.
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Totally de-valued title and the record books will reflect this.
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You should know, you devalued it with tax evasion, theft, deceipt and cheating.
thank you for the freebie and probably at least 10 in a row .
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25 Feb 2012 13:08:14
Good morning. Why is our title tainted?? Did Celtic get a 10 points extra given to them or did they earn every point they have by beating every team in the league? Now you got 10 points taken from you. Celtic didn't take it from you. Why where the 10 points taken from you? Who's fault is it that you got 10 points taken from you? Celtic or 20 points ahead. Now let's all take 10 from 20= 10. Where did Celtic get those 10 points out of then? Well they got them for beating every team in the league. Where did the 15 point lead go on the 5 of November? Why where Celtic 4 points clear before the shxt hit the fan? Al tell you why because Celtic are the best team in the league and when they win the title it will because they have beaten every team in the league. Bigirishmac ice-cream and jelly.
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Its took ur great team 4 years to win the title by default hometime
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In the record books, all it will show is that Celtic won the league by the biggest margin in history.
the bears almost seem to take pride in calling it a devalued league, they are actually proud that their cheating team has brought shame on scottish football. the only team to devalue anything, is rangers....Celtic were running away with the league before they brought the game into disrepute
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Taco give your mouth a rest!
Helicopter Sunday some time ago you threw away the league according to your lot. Rangers were given it according to your lot.
Get back to your own site your really beginning to bore us.
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Yap yap yap little doggy. we're not talking about 7 years ago, we're talking about YOUR LOT bringing scottish football into disrepute, and proud to claim that the title is tarnished because of your clubs actions.
if you want to know what constitutes a real tainted title, look no further than the events surrounding last year ;)
btw, this page is as much yours as it is mine....fascist little gdog
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Celtic love their tainted titles, 2007/08 they won be default and its been gifted to them this year.
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Listen son I'm a lot of things I'm not a fascist.
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The title will be devalued,the ten point deduction knocked the stuffing out of Rangers,but,in fairness,Celtic hit a bit of form,and got the momentum from that,all in all,Rangers will take their medicine,and get back on track for next season,Isee no point in bitterness,from Rangers fans,or gloating Celtic fans,the facts are the facts.watp
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How did the 10 point deduction knock the stuffing out of rangers?
you already surrendered a 15 point lead, and celtic were ahead by 4 points, meaning a 19 point swing BEFORE administration
so, if you want to talk facts, at least get them straight, and stop this devalued p'sh
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The stuffing out of them?? LOL holy feck. The stuffing was knock out of them when we went from -15 to +4. Don't be blaming the 10 points deduction blame fat ally. 20 wins in a row FACT 23 points clear FACT. My god you people are so sad. Let The People Sing. CHAMPIONS. Here for 21 in a row. Bigirishmac
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Rangers supporters rewriting history as usual. Mind the gulf.
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25 Feb 2012 13:00:39
Derek Johnston has asked for Whyte to be removed from Rangers history.
No.
For me this mans portrait should be mounted on every available wall. The catering should be renamed Craig’s Kitchen. Bricks should be replaced with his own. We should never forget the day this man came into Ibrox. We should never forget why this man turned up at our doors in the first place.
Maybe we are all guilty of complacency; maybe we have taken our great club for granted. The victories, the titles, in particular the last 3 against adversity, we still kept winning. Maybe now we can value our club again and remember for all its greatness it’s existence is so fragile and can be taken away from those who built it, us, the fans!
First Murray, then the bank and then Whyte. Together they have embarrassed us, ridiculed our name, auctioned off our love through ticket sales, taken us for granted and desperately tried to sell our soul.
But it’s our soul that cannot be removed. Our love should never be taken for granted again and in turn we should never forget what WE have built.
No-one must ever be allowed to do this to Rangers again: to us again. We must all be prepared to do whatever we can to get our club back.
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Yes that's all very well. But u make no reference to all the good times and trophies won under Murray. U had no problem celebrating all that success. Do u feel that success is tainted in any way? Should all those trophies be struck off? (due to possible tax evasion or just due to financial mismanagement.) I might have some sympathy for rangers if u acknowledged this aspect of the situation. But u feel u r hard done by now without recognizing the other side of the coin - the dodgy success u enjoyed which led to this state of affairs. But u want it all ways so hell mend u. Jhimbhoy
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Jhimbhoy: I am making the point that it's us the fans that made this club. We created the success as did Celtic fans and Aberdeen fans alike.
As for trophies being struck off, keep dreaming. Technically Celtic are in debt yes? £7m.
So this years title, you clearly could'nt afford to purchase the players you have if your in debt. You should have paid off your debt before making further purchases. If we follow your higher than though logic.
Do one son your starting to talk gibberish.
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Grog. U just don't get it. U still want to have all ways. U say that the fans r responsible for any success ur club has had. Not SDM. But the failures and the current Armageddon event - oh that is all down to SDM or CW or whoever - nothing to fo with the fans. I'm sure some folk will sympathize with the fans regarding the current predicament but these same fans raised no objections when SDM was delivering success, on (as it turned out) dodgy financial ground. Regarding Celtic's debt, there is no mismanagement. The debt is being managed very well and the club is operating at a profit. Oh and did u feel the childish insult at the end of ur post helped to move the debate forward? Jhimbhoy.
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25 Feb 2012 10:44:44
While having a look through the posts from the last couple of days four things are crystal clear.
1. In general the fans a bit more optimistic about seeing the end of this chapter and although it will be hard we will survive.
2.Mr whyte has no place at ibrox.
3.the club in the future must be run along the lines of barca,Hamburg,Bayer etc that is fan based no majority rich shareholder.
4.and on a lighter note right from the top at Celtic park to the fans the two words they hate the most and when said go crazy is "Devalued league"its really quite funny. The Bear.
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Devalued just like 9 in a row lol
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Please educate us, in your own words, how your 9 in a row during the 60's / 70's was devalued ?............. Because we earned our 9 in a row by pumping you lot off the park on a regular basis, and will again ! You are a bitter Timmothy and should concentrate on your own team. AGer63
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Also tax case in proper papers are thinking rangers have a very good chance of being found not tax liable, concerning small tax case getting bigger every day will be paid of fully. So I agree we are going to have money tight for a couple of years but hey ho all of us are going through this with the current world economic climate. Think we should take our time and get the right setup of board I agree fan based is our future, forget this European deadline and get the right people in to ensure this can never happen again. Also would like a group of rangers men to investigate how we can impliment a youth policy which works as Murray park set up does not, I would look at how clubs like Southampton and even Dundee united do it as we must concentrate on bringing the youths through a system which gives them a very good chance of playing in the first team. As I'm sure most young kids nowadays think no point in going to ibrox because we will never get a chance of first team so they chose to go elsewhere,this must stop. We have got to get it right for don't think we will get another chance. Fan based club with a focal point of using youth in our team. Realistically we must accept we will be a selling club, but if conveyor belt system is in place nothing wrong with that
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Is Celtics 9 in a row really devalued ? You learn a lot from the posts on here
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I think you will find the 9 in a row years are not under investigation you idiot!
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Stop worring about the devalued title, its Motherwells devalued runners-up you have to worry about.
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GDog you are the idiot. Are you aware that there have been dodgy tax transactions as far back as 1993?
Didn't think so. The truth will come out so I hope you come back to admit that you were wrong.
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Gdog there that thick and dont know what they are talking about leave them to its from 2000 onwards not when we won 9 in a row enjoy ur tainted title
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Every now and then you get a very good thought out post well done to the guy who advocates taking our time ,picking the right people to run the club I would rather have a strong rangers minded director with say ten mill than a fly by night with hundred million also fans having a majority on that board . Brilliant call on the youths that's the way ahead might take time but we will get there. Rest of the posts infected with children
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The second post is talking about rangers nine in row being devauled not celtics
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25 Feb 2012 10:39:07
Ed, what will happen to Rangersrumours if the club does fold, will there be mass redundancies, LOLs. {Ed001's Note - the site doesn't employ anyone to make redundant, though I fail to see how people losing their jobs is a laughing matter? I bet you weren't laughing when Celtic were on the verge of folding, then you try and claim to be better than Rangers fans while doing the exact same things you bitch about them doing when you were on your knees. It is sad, you are in a position to know how it feels, yet you are too busy laughing at their misfortune and increasing the bitterness and resentment to empathise.}
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Well said ed
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Well said ED
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Ed that sums up most of the Celtic support butt not all of them.
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Tremendous Ed well said.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF ! That's a 30 yard screamer from the Ed... well played sir!
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Oh ed that hurt right in the nuts wooooof xx
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25 Feb 2012 10:33:24
A boycott on away games y? Its not any other team fault your in the mess think of money or airdrie when they owed you money go & support the team anywhere n carry can for your own mess boycott away games but fill out home games with whyte claiming all the money,einsteinez u beta hope teams dont boycott ibrox
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Apart from the unwashed there isn't a great away following. Let them boycott Ibrox. WE DON'T DO WALKING AWAY !
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We don't need the away fans but the diddy teams need the Rangers and the celtic fans.
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Not content with their own financial mess they now want to hit other clubs in the pocket by staying away from any matches outside ibrox,how many are willing to boycott the old firm game at parkhead then?
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25 Feb 2012 10:09:48
Just an idea why don't thay have a consert at ibrox get rangers supporters groups or bands u would fill the ground and make millions if thay are true rangers fans the bands would do it for free all money goes to the cause
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Brilliant idea! Would love to see that happen help out the club and cheer us all up at the same time :D
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Cannae afford the stewards!
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Flute bands? lol (Loyal Bear) btw flute bands have their own stewards btw only askin a funny question guys need a wee laugh in this difficult time. do appologise ifa made anybody angry
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What bands are rangers fans? three of wet,wet,wet, three of travis, edwin collins and thats about it. really fill ipox with that eh?
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As i posted a few months back, ibrox used to packed with a warm up concert, why i know you ask? my mum and dad used to go, obviously bon jovi may not do it but but all we can do is ask any band or solo artist if they would be willing to have a warm up gig in ibrox before playin in the SECC only 5 minutes apart tbh,the seats in front of the stage was sold out and the pitch was packed aswell .
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25 Feb 2012 09:59:47
All this talk of hard up fans willing to give up money to keep the Rangers going, hows about the players giving up a week wages. That would raise about 1/2 million, its not as if thay cant afford it as some of them are earning more for 1 game tham most of us fans earn in a year.
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They have all agreed to wage cuts. I think thats a start dont you??
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25 Feb 2012 09:55:06
Kyle Lafferty has appeared 101 times for Rangers. Have Burnley inserted a clause regarding 102 appearances? I don't think so!
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Is it for starting games?
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25 Feb 2012 08:45:57
I would be happy to leave bank details on the saverangers site as long as it was secure.this would stop fake pledges being made by Celtic fans as the site wouldn't accept post office accounts
WE ARE THE PEOPLE
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Jacko the Whacko , Tax Dodgers FC will accept money from anyone at the moment or has the FACT that yous are SKINT , ROOKED , BROKE , just floated right over your head ?
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Unnamed uneducated twonker did you read my post?I said i would be happy to leave bank details because i am genuine and commited to actually giving money to help my team.Do you think your average celtic dunderheed making fake pledges for a laugh would go as far as entering bank details to complete the registration.Naw they widney thus making their pledge null and void just like your pointless comment.So just stop talking shyte.You didnt even leave a name to a comment oan a rumours site so why would you leave bank details with your pledge on saverangers WE ARE THE PEOPLE jacko
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25 Feb 2012 07:38:45
Why would any rangers fan take pride in telling everyone that THEY are responsible for devalueing the spl, if it is a devalued league then its rangers fault, the fact is they have not only devalued it but almost destroyed scottish football in the process but seem to take some comfort in their powerless situation by saying you only won it because we tried to cheat the tax paying public and all scottish football teams for years.
Liquidation is round the corner and fans are only worried about this seasons spl. When the chances are rangers will no longer exist and they will be supporting some new club from next year.
OPEN YOUR EYES, before its late.
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25 Feb 2012 06:46:46
Not a rumour but would like it posted to see opinions. I think rangers fans should boycot away games n see how long teams survive without the income we get them for ticket sales etc. Yes this could be hard on the team but I'd hope they would understand the reasoning. I'm pretty sure there would be a difference of opinion with alot of clubs if they lost our revenue for a year. Obviously Celtic would fill the seats but the rest wouldn't. Just my opinion
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100% agree. I've said for years that all clubs exploit Old Firm fans on ticket prices. I would gladly donate the cost of my away ticket to Rangers fund
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Great plan , not , what happens if the rest of the SPL teams fans BOYCOTT Ibrox for the rest of the season or longer , where would Rangers much needed income come from then ? you lot really are full of it , i dont care if you boycott Celtic Park for ever , less damage to seats and toilets , you are not holding anyone to ransom , so think about what you are saying , before you get peoples backs up . Drewzybhoy
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Dozybhoy, if the rest of the fans boycott rangers games then that means more revenue for rangers, instead of an away fans section, more seats (money) for the home fans
Canyousaybanana!!
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25 Feb 2012 02:10:36
This is my opinion of Craig Whyte's plan for Rangers:- administration leading to liquidation. Whyte would be the secured creditor & own the assets (Ibrox Stadium, Murray Park & Albion car park) He would transfer the assets to one of his companies (most likely Liberty Capital- based in the British Virgin Islands) where they would out of reach of creditors. (Whyte was banned from being a director for seven years) the judge in the case alluded to rendering assets out of reach of creditors. He has made a big mistake- by admitting he purchased the club using future season ticket money to pay off Lloyds-therefore I think he has no claim over the aforesaid assets. He bought the club with no money at all!
In addition to that Whyte sold the proceeds of match day catering to upgrade the catering outlets in the stadium. In conclusion I believe we have been duped by this individual (Whyte) & his fate is his choice, run (better be fast),hide(we will find you!) or prison-I will leave this option open to comments.
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Prison would be good, that smug grin would be wiped off his ugly coupon.
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He is a total conman and dragged us through the mud for months personally id like to see him in bar-l, watch ur soap mr whyte... craig+babybear no jelly and ice cream left kris commons ate it
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25 Feb 2012 02:09:12
"Dundee utd may contact the fa in pursuance of a six figure sum owed them by blackburn rovers on the sale of former striker David Goodwillie"- altogether noo: MIGHT AS WELL HAVE SOLD TO RANGERS! :-) It's little wonder corner shop junior wants that away gate money from the game at tanadice in advance! :-) will we be out admin before they go into it fellow bears?!? :-)
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U should be ashamed of urself with comments like that. why wish the misfortune that you find your club in upon anyone else? is it little wonder the club finds itself in a mess that mind set has been passd from board level right down to fan level and playing level.
all the best for the future
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Not good wishing that on anybody mate, owner is a plum agree , but come on... craig+babybear
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What a pointless post, why dont you channel your energy into something positive for god sake!
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25 Feb 2012 01:38:04
Somethings bothering me about whole "sell to someone who has rangers best interests at heart"
Instead of selling for a quid, why did Murray not simply ask him to invest £18m to rangers and give him a seat on board in return and gift him his shares?
Is that to simple in the high flying world of big business?
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25 Feb 2012 01:09:25
Sell Murray Park, it is a complete ego trip from our last great leader. I keep hearing that Murray Park produces or does not produce players. Let me make this clear, no piece of grass has ever produced a great footballer. Talent and good coaching produce good players. It costs £1.4m a year to run it. Let's be honest if Barca badges were up instead of rangers crests you could understand that the best players in the world have such facilities. We forget we are far from that standard. Why do we need three pitches to the exact dimensions of ibrox. We don't even have a reserve team, why do we need eight pitches.
And before those ppl come on and say we don't own it, yes we do. Murray does not own the land or the building, rangers do.
I would remind those that can remember 1972 when we won in Europe training in the Albion car park, with one grass pitch and one
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Give yourself a shake man. Ie Hutton how much again £9million shagger how much will he be worth?.Its 2012 not 1972 I let's awe run about the Albion Car Park.Were trying to keep Rangers Intact no sell we're best facility's.
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M Ross
Fleck
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Ness
Cole
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Which piece of grass coached Hutton, Greegs etc?
We won nine in a row training at jordanhill, obviously the grass there was a better coach. It's a piece of grass
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Maybe need better coaches then.
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25 Feb 2012 01:02:47
Rather than websites that maybe raise money and are easily hijacked by sad timmy why not arrange 1 friendly a month against some quality opposition who may be sympathetic to our cause ie Arsenal, Chelsea, Hamburg, Liverpool, AC Milan and Barca. I'm sure we have as a club good relationships with these teams and surely could raise close to £1m a game which would also plug the £10m a year black whole that Vague Whyte explained.
BFH
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Yes we need to pay allot to the oppostion for it you know so tht wud be most of it gone
AndyBear98
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To gross a million you would need 50,000 fans paying £20 each. To see Liverpool and Barcelona and even Rangers fringe players I dont think so. Then you pay the police, stewards, opposition and of course tax.
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25 Feb 2012 00:24:17
I just can't get my head around the mess we are in. I keep thinking Ach everything will work out, but I don't think anyone really knows what will happen. Always love the Rangers though and lets not fall out with each other, we all want simply the best for our team.
CWD
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25 Feb 2012 00:22:49
We are at our lowest point but positive signs are starting to come out of all this mess. The wheel will turn and out of the ashes we will take up our usual place at the head of the table. Keep the faith fellow bears. Always blue.
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Simple bears! If a cash flow prob make sure every home game a sell out till end of season do cash collections at gate if 50 thousand give tenner each home game and if a true fan make a true pledge
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Who supervises said " cash collections " I've been stung enough !! I will, as I have done for 30+yrs, contribute when the correct people are in charge. i ain't giving my ( Rangers ) money to a total stranger with a tin !! This needs to be done right, for everyone mate. AGer63
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So a family of dad,mum and three kids need to find another fifty quid a game, or pensioner/ unemployed fans?
Maybe 10 thousand at most could find an extra tenner= 100k per game IF 50.000 turn up!
How many home games left? 6 or 7 ? = maximum 700k, not even enough to pay balance of money owed to hearts!
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24 Feb 2012 23:56:22
Why don't they just sell a couple of players ie davis & mcgregor their wages (£20,000pw each) would pay the wages of 70 lower paid workers ie tea lady, groundsman and office staff etc. This would keep them at the club for a year on £30000 p/a. Let's face it the leagues done and Europe will be a no goer for next year so helping this many folk keep their jobs is more important than on the field matters.
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Transfer windows not open (not windows they'd entertain anyway)
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