Rangers Banter Archive August 25 2017

25 Aug 2017 21:41:42
Hate to say it because I am fully behind Pedro and want him to succeed but his comment about on loan MOH was inappropriate, lacked humility and from a negotiation viewpoint extremely poor.

25 Aug 2017 23:00:09
Agree 100% Fd MoH is fast and is scoring goals just the type of player we're needing. He's a player that never got a chance at rangers under both managers which is a shame for the player and the fact Pedro won't give him a chance no matter how well he plays is wrong

25 Aug 2017 23:10:53
Fd

The comments were totally outrageous. Not the sort of thing you would expect a manager to say

26 Aug 2017 00:12:47
Why? He's only telling the truth! MOH is terrible, about time we had a manager with a backbone. If PC doesn't rate him then why sugarcoat it

Good on you Pedro

26 Aug 2017 00:46:16
Totally agree 87Henderson! Why have a Manager saying that a Player out on loan is there so that he looks forward to him returning etc when he's really thinking that he would have rather punted him in the first place!
The only reason we didn't was due to the fact no-one wanted to pay a figure we would have accepted. We are prob still paying 50% of his wages! So I really hope he plays well and scores etc as then a Club may put in a decent bid in January. The guy just can't cut it at Ibrox and i'm 100% behind the Manager and its great he that he's telling us straight.

26 Aug 2017 01:24:49
Problem with MOH is that he signed for the wrong club in Glasgow. Let's be honest here and say it, this is nothing sinister I'm suggesting. His heart just wasn't in it for us.

He barely cracked a smile in a Rangers jersey, body language was way off. If you'll remember he failed to break into Warburons team also. and he was soft.

He's finished as a Rangers player. Only reason he's not been sold is because we are paying him wages nobody else bar the other lot can pay. Hope he continues to score for Saints and somebody who can afford his wages takes him.

26 Aug 2017 01:55:02
87henderson

Publicly slagging a player isn't clever or showing backbone. If your boss did that to you I'm sure you wouldn't be pleased. Totally unnecessary thing to say and way out of order. Not what a Rangers manager should be doing

26 Aug 2017 07:04:22
I think he was right in what he was saying because its true but to do so publicly lacks abit of class for me, I don't know if that's the european style of doing things or not but definitely not the Rangers way. Bearmode i agree 200% mate i always got the impression he looked unhappy with us aswell

26 Aug 2017 07:45:44
totally agree FD

The merits of MoH as a player are not the issue here . Like him or not ( despite his goals at st johnstone i personally don't think he is good enough for Rangers - i watched him take 3/ 4 touches to get ball under control many times and always seems to run head down straight into corner or down a blind alley - when he did play for us which people conveniently forget.

Classic case of a decent player at a smaller club who just cannot step up to the pressure and expectations of performing at our club

No the issue is how Pedro conducted himself in the media which up till now has been fine although at times bizarre but slating MoH when he is still a Rangers player who btw has 3 years left on his contract was poorly judged and not how I expect a Rangers manager to speak
about one of his own staff

Personally if you don't like the guy fine - tell him that or slate him to his face in private, maybe to try and get a rise out him - everyone's entitled to a 2nd chance but you don't say that about the lad to the press.

Very disappointing Pedro - stick to trying to get a winning team on park for Rangers

26 Aug 2017 08:21:42
Moh has not had a bad word to say about rangers or his time their, what pedro has done totally lacks class and smack's of jim trainor pulling the strings again, slag this boy off pedro, all the fans think he supports Celtic anyway and the fans will love it, unfortunately for jim and pedro the more reasonable and intelligent fans can see right through their bs, pedro doesn't come across as the brightest bulb in the box .

26 Aug 2017 08:40:56
I kind of get where he is coming from in respect to playing for them and hitting on the break utilising his speed. It might suit other clubs but I don't think we want to play that way. Take OH speed away and he's useless. Had loads of chances to impress but didn't take them. He was like a man down for us most of the time.

26 Aug 2017 09:06:04
Camoo
It's not his ability or lack of ability that's the issue it's the fact the manager came out publicly and slagged him off. Totally unnecessary and not what you would expect from a manager of Rangers

26 Aug 2017 10:20:27
Thanks for your responses guys.

To be clear the point I am making relates to Pedro's public comments about MOH. Personally I think MOH is not good enough for us and was given sufficient opportunities to prove he justifies a place in the team. Pedro's public comments were inappropriate and don't even make financial sense.

26 Aug 2017 10:29:31
Say what you like about Pedro, but he's honest and says it as it is.

Did he really say anything that bad about MOH? He said that he wouldn't return to rangers under him, and was better suited to another team.

Now we all know where we stand regarding MOH.

26 Aug 2017 11:33:07
Sparky,

He's not "publicly slagging" him! He had made it clear he is not his type of guy and has no future at ibrox! I've read hundreds of posts on here saying MOH is rotten and should be punted but because the gaffer has now said he has no future there's an outcry!
Don't forget by that MOH refused to play for our development team and had been critisied for his attitude all the while sitting taking thousands of pounds a week from us guys that pay money see him not perform!
Pedro would have seen this guy day in day out and if he didn't fancy him then tuff.
Frankly I love the comment "he's not the type of player required to play for Rangers".
Pedro isn't daft, he' knows MOH isn't up for it and it's alright scoring a few goals for another team, St J fans aren't going to be demanding 3 points every week, MOH will be in his comfort zone up there.

26 Aug 2017 14:49:04
87Henderson

Yes but the people who slag him off on here aren't his boss. I would also suggest that the manager is hardly in a position to say that about anyone at the club given some of the results we have had under him. Maybe MOH isn't the type of player needed at Rangers but is Pedro the type of manager required at Rangers?

26 Aug 2017 19:02:56
He won't be saying anything that he hasn't already said to his face so I don't see the issue here

25 Aug 2017 19:00:25
I know that all of us have certain questions that for some reason can get under your skin and can do your box in especially if the reason or the answer cannot be given or explained straight away. Again we're all different and some feel strongly about something whereas others do not care at all especially if it does not concern our Club.
Anyways this is what's bugging me, when the manky mob take on Hibs at Easter Road, I'm sure that their Home, Away or even Third Kit will be acceptable all will clash with the Hibs Home Top! I mentioned this weeks ago and believe it or not but a Tic posted on here that Hibs could always wear their Away Top for the game!
Anyways what would the outcome be if all registered Kits clash? Can a Team introduce a new Top OR WILL Hibs play in their Away Kit? I'm sure the Hibs Support will love bending over to accomodate their Managers Club.

25 Aug 2017 19:43:11
Just do what we did as weans, put the bibs on or turn them inside out lol.
But good to know your obsessed.

25 Aug 2017 19:43:12
Jesus wept, your just not lettin it go are you andy. It isn't a sign of weakness to wear an away kit at home, many, many teams have done it before. Its pure and simple andy, marketing, shirt sales and all that. Your club is indroducing an away top soon, and the seasons begun, does that not answer your question. What will Rangers wear at ibrox when they play aberdeen, their away top is blue, by your logic they should then insist on wearing that because its an away top and they are the away team . Move on with your life eh.

25 Aug 2017 20:43:12
Who cares?

25 Aug 2017 20:43:58
Dunno what came over me people! I just get carried away putting QUESTIONS out and asking opinions :) BAD ANDY! sooo stupid of me! I'll get back to normality.
Ok so what do you think the score will be on Sunday?

25 Aug 2017 21:17:18
1-1, but hope I'm wrong.

25 Aug 2017 21:54:01
Pedros away record is actually pretty decent. playing away might suit us, i'm going for a 2-0 win. dorrans and morelo on target 👍

25 Aug 2017 22:14:08
The question was fine Andy, a couple of weeks ago when you first raised the issue. Its just playing on your mind a wee bit too long☺. Rangers will beat Ross Co. 3-1 imo.

25 Aug 2017 22:25:59
2-0 bears.

25 Aug 2017 23:28:12
Hers to Elin 5-0.

25 Aug 2017 17:25:09
I like Kenny miller he has done a lot for us but i think he should take up a coaching role or be a bit part player. We should be developing a strike partnership for the future how does miller at 37 fit into the future plan? Hardie and morales or pena just in behind morales. Just to add I morales is a player with huge potential holds the ball up really well.

25 Aug 2017 18:13:47
I agree with what your saying about miller mate but I don't know how you can say put pena here there ir anywhere else, the guy hasn't played a full half hour of football for us, its ridiculous to even mention him in the squad.

25 Aug 2017 19:38:09
I agree not seen much of Pena but heard all good things. Just needs match fitness. Kenny is the king but we shouldn't be playing him every minute of every game. Give pena a chance to show what he can do against ross county?

25 Aug 2017 15:13:06
Personally I am behind the manager and the team at present. But would like to know, being directed at the people that want him out. What would you need him to do to prove his worth? ie league postition cup run of winning of a cup? old firm/ aberdeen results? that type of thing.

25 Aug 2017 17:33:36
I'll stand with you mate, there's nothing PC could do for some folk on here to back him, for me; he's been given the responsibility of leading our great club and irrespective of who's chosen, for what they represent alone I will support them as I've always done.

Same for the players, they deserve a chance, a little time to integrate properly, be comfortable in their surroundings on and off the pitch, enjoying their football and then we will see the best of them or assess whether or not they are capable, so called fans have written off players based on much less than 90 minutes.

25 Aug 2017 18:50:43
Andy, that's football. Your only as good as your last match if your an unknown player or manager.

25 Aug 2017 20:30:34
we gave mccoist 4 years, surely we can give pc

25 Aug 2017 22:57:57
Well if you payed attention mccoist basically got his pals to write him basically an unbreakable contract and if i'm no mistaken before admin mccoist had us thumping celtic in the league. Allys downfall was having no money and he said that stupid sentence and felt he couldn't go back on it.

26 Aug 2017 06:46:17
Mccoist won 3 league titles and was sitting second and still in both cups when he was hounded out.

25 Aug 2017 14:25:58
Rant here. .

1st. All you fans calling for Pedro's to be sacked. You don't know anything. the guys has really actually just came in and trying to find a team and balance of players that will suit the WAY HE WANTS TO PLAY ( not us fans ) if the board wanted the fans to pick the team then they wouldn't have brought Pedro in.

2nd. Carlos Pena. again so called fans reading the what the media say. have Rangers came out and said that he's an alcoholic. NO well don't listen too it. yeah the guy has the bad boy form about him that's great some one that will take no sh*t. the guy can't speak English let him adapt.

3rd. You all go on about bring in this player and that. rightly you have an opinion. But OMG it's not like the board are on this site saying for instance. Easy, Fod, albetz, fifaguy, or even Ed has a point we should buy those players. best we can do is as fans get behind the players and the manager and show Scotland and the world we are a team again. not bums that want the manger out the door after a few games.

25 Aug 2017 14:35:18
great post Fifaguy. I for one am fully behind the manager. Think as supporters though we can justifiably ask about paying £3m for a player who is not fit for duty. Hopefully Penna will prove all his detractors wrong and when he does get a game we will all he amazed. Hopefully we will still be within touching distance of the unwashed when that takes place.

25 Aug 2017 14:37:29
I have not mentioned any players we should buy

25 Aug 2017 15:10:54
Who said he was an alkie? he's outta shape and unfit or else he would be starting. As for pedro another couple of bad results he's out the door same as warbs. I've never mentioned a player we should buy either and for your statement we know nothing, well fill us in in your inside info or go back and play fifa.

25 Aug 2017 15:16:14
Fifaguy give it 2 or 3 weeks and you will want him sacked

25 Aug 2017 15:25:36
People are entitled to their opinion on the manager and it's not for you to have a cheap shot at them by saying they don't know anything. TBH if that's the best you can come up with to defend the manager then he is in trouble. Maybe it didn't bother you when we recorded our worst ever European defeat under him or when Celtic hammered is 5-1 at home or when we lay down to them in a semi final but some of us expect better

25 Aug 2017 15:38:34
Sit doon fifaguy, who made you head of rangers fans opinions. Your manager, like any manager will be judged on results. His insane ramblings aren't helping him either, like yours above. The boy Pena has turned up out of shape to his new club, its unprofessional, and fans are rightly concerned. You don't have to speak english to keep fit, or order a beer for that matter. Fans of any club pay their money and are entitled to their opinion on the team, as are you. But get of your soapbox and take your concerns to your board, not fellow fans whos opinion you don't agree with. And in my opinion, the ones with concern about things just now have their finger on the pulse, unlike you it seems, happy to just let things slowly decay. You are being fooled by fools.

25 Aug 2017 15:40:50
I take it you call yourself fifaguy because that's where you get your football knowledge. I have no idea if pena is an alki or not but I do know he was our big signing this season and after six competitive games this season, only three of which we won (and two of them against lesser opposition) we have not seen him. I'm no bum that wants managers sacked for no reason but a Rangers fan who has watched this manager hit milestone after milestone all for the wrong reasons, worst home defeat to them etc. and cannot see how he is going to turn it around. Does anyone honestly think we can go on a winning streak of say 5 games? We have to steady the ship now before its too late. As for Fds post you said it all when you said "hopefully we will still be in touch", we've only played three games for goodness sake and your hoping we are still in touch is that how far we have fell?

25 Aug 2017 16:38:22
Fifaguy, some posts here actually consider and analyse before expressing an opinion. I haven't read a single accusation you've leveled against Pena on this forum and all anyone has ever expressed is a belief he should have arrived fit and able to play a game of football irrespective of his ability to to speak English. Most of the posts questioning Pedro's credentials have been well thought out. Like the rest, I hope we're wrong and he proves his worth but like many, I have my doubts. Maybe Board members should read this website.

25 Aug 2017 17:34:46
all you have a point but wanting the manger sacked after a few games is just wrong.

and albetz and Fod was making you both have played Pedro in the past

25 Aug 2017 18:09:05
Fifaguy if your just on here to try and argue with me that's fine but i'm pretty sure there i'm better shouting at a brick wall.

25 Aug 2017 12:34:53
If Windass is out who comes in?
Dalcio? Or do we put dodoo or miller out there?
Maybe this would be chanded to try 3-5-2 with Wallace n Tav out wide?

Or all out 4-3-3? Middle 3 of jack Dorrans and pena. Front 3 = miller left Herrera middle and morelos right?

25 Aug 2017 13:03:23
If the boy Nemane is good enough put him in team on Sunday

25 Aug 2017 13:18:11
He will be on the bench at a push!

25 Aug 2017 13:26:52
Defo not dalcio he had the fear at ibrox of getting tackled never mind dingwall where i'm guessin it will be physical

25 Aug 2017 13:47:12
Miller won't be dropped, therefor I think he will play on the left. That will leave either Herrera or Hardie to partner Morelos. Dalcio will not feature. I hope Nemane has been brought here to play and not just in development capacity. So I hope to see him at some point, but won't hold my breath.

25 Aug 2017 14:06:42
Niko or dozza will play left side

25 Aug 2017 15:13:52
Niko are you joking I can't believe people want him in the squad. The manager should have all areas covered by now, there is 6 days left if the window he needs to shop sensible this time not more floos and unknowns.

25 Aug 2017 15:46:42
Naw am no joking niko is by far the most gifted player we have at our club OK his pace is limited and he's not going to chase and win ball back but on the ball he's special! We have enough quality against ross county that we can afford a luxury player, Jack and Dorrans in the engine room should be doing the running and our ball retention should allow niko to play his game and unlock stuffy defence!

25 Aug 2017 15:58:02
Fod 100% agree on Niko. He is a passenger we can do with out. He was terrible on Saturday when he came on.

25 Aug 2017 17:03:03
If Windass is out which by the way is the first I've even heard of him not being available! Then it SHOULD be Dalcio BUT his performances of late have probably put him down the pecking order although if he shows it in training then he may be used. Failing that we could throw the new lad in? Other options for the Left Wing are Beerman and Miller!
If we move Candieas to Left Wing we could then call up Atayaki for the Right Wing? Or even put Dorrans there with Pena moving into CM along side Jack.
We have options that could work. I am definitely not saying that this is ideal and it reinforces the fact we need a Player of quality for the Left Wing. Again Dalcio was supposed to be a option but his opening performances have not done him any favours. We should have enough to get a result, btw when and why did Windass become a doubt?

25 Aug 2017 17:30:10
If we're going 3 at the back, why not 3-4-3 and go for the jugular from the off.

I'd hazard a few changes (this will never happen) but I'd like to see;

Alnwick
Cardoso Alves Bates
Jack Pena Candeias Nemane
Dorrans Morelos Herrera

Dorrans would sit behind the two target men, as I say it will never happen as miller, Wallace and Tav are all a stick on for a start, as is Fods, a wee change would be nice and perhaps show the guys expecting it that a place isn't guaranteed.

Good result this weekend, we can say that it's a lesser quality team but for me every three points matters

25 Aug 2017 17:31:27
Pedro caixinha, get motherwell winger chris cadden to ibrox before its too late and he's off to england! He's a terrific young player and honestly can't believe we've not moved for him!

25 Aug 2017 19:41:07
100% agree coops 👍

25 Aug 2017 00:53:36
Anybody know WHY the stairwell glass was covered? Was it really just because someone thought it looked better OR is their some kind of work going on?
Plus the talk of introducing safe standing, I want to know what's the thoughts on which part of the Stadium the standing section should be?
So Bears if it was up to you, where should it go?

25 Aug 2017 06:12:04
The safe standing section is a great idea I have always thought it was missing from football, as for the glass get that big curtain down it looks horrible.

25 Aug 2017 12:27:06
I got told its a temporary cover to protect the glass, not sure what for, would love a safe standing area at ibrox near the away fans although i'm not sure the club would allow that