Rangers Banter Archive August 25 2011

25 Aug 2011 23:35:31
Rangers Euro campaign was a non-starter this season, nothing has worked for us, nothing has went in, not getting stonewall penalties and playing against divers. Not excuses just the truth... I feel as gutted as any Rangers fan but I think it's just a euro thing, we showed against Motherwell were a good team and hopefully well continue to be top in the SPL. Our fans unlike the Celtic boo-boys were fantastic all night, sell Edu & Broadfoot and bring in a striker. 4 in a row here we go

Who would want to buy Edu & Broadfoot?

25 Aug 2011 23:36:09
Cant believe how many fans are showing their true colours now..its about time you all stop your bitching about all our players, stop calling for our managers head and get behind your team. Start getting ibrox full again. When you go to a game if someone starts singing respectable songs near by you sing along with them its about time the fans started noising up the place cus i caqnt remember the last time i heard more than a tiny quater of the stadium making any noise. Yes we're out of europe so are all the other scottish teams. Its a level playing field for the domestic treble now no excuse from either club with no european football to distract us. WATP AND WE WILL LEARN AND IMPROVE. IN McCOIST I TRUST Who agrees?

Sorry maybe trust, dont know its as simple as that
wont trust him in europe ever again
it could have been worse
shamrock rovers

25 Aug 2011 23:16:49
Come on bears, we were never ready for Europe anyway. We need to develope our young players and turn them into seasoned pros. Build for the future while trying to improve the standard of the squad with the resources we have currently. Celtic and well as us have a responsibility to improve our game and raise the profile. Our game needs major reconstuction we know this. The bowling club commitee at the SFA must go. Support your team and our game roll on the week end.

Baloobear1873

25 Aug 2011 23:05:56
remember ally signed 6 players and gave long term contracts to 4 others ( not all played ), they are good enough to have won this but their attitude stinks.
tactics and forward thinking has been missing i.e healy got 7 minutes at the weekend when well ahead but the guy got the best chance but is not match sharp , if had a few more games he would have finnished it. Bad Management.
Tactics as we need to score 2 to be safe and we play a holding mid in edu.
Nothing beats experience , sorry ally come back in 4 years when you have it, Walter had it and did so well with even worse set of players

25 Aug 2011 23:01:15
Let us look at the facts. Since the season finished in may, we knew the european dates. We have little money. Of the players we have signed, two are still unable to play. Why is it end of august we are still looking for a striker. The disgraceful signing policy by making embarrassing bids has cost us £15m by not qualifying for the cl. There was no guarantee that we would have qualified had these players been signed but it would surely have given us a better chance. It is a disgrace that a team like rangers have one striker, not that we will have him for long. However the most depressing thing to me was the lack of passion, only in the last 5 minutes was there any sign. Too little too late. The other depressing thing is the fact that we are signing a 32 year old on a 3 year contract, surely there is a 20 year old somewhere that can run. There is no speed at all in the team, except for wylde. Let me make a prediction bocanegra will be a disaster, and I know he scored tonight, no pace, no height, no future sell on, no nothing. Much as I love mccoist, he looks totally out of his depth, he has no idea how to change a game, in fact the once he did change the game was when he made a substitution in Maribor and look what happened then. There is no point blaming whyte, he is also completely out of his depth, but he inherited mccoist and could not get rid of him, he would have been enemy number 1. I am horrified to think this about the guy that I named my son after, but he has to go, and go now. He has no experience, and rangers is no place to cut your teeth, the last one we had was greig and that was a disaster, the same thing is happening again. Go now

Utter Nonsense you silly little man,bocanegras good, yeh we should of won and if mculloch naisy bedoya weir bartley whittaker papac were available im sure we would of, broadfoot edu ortiz wylde wouldnt of started tonight the first 3 shouldnt even be at ibrox wylde has potential but he has a lot to learn poor delivery all night..

25 Aug 2011 22:50:33
Ally we trust my arse get a grip he was my hero as a player he will never be a manager. Why change it from Sunday edu a disgrace broad foot say no more. All you fans who think jelavic is a player think again boys he's never kicked is arse this season he'd be lucky to get a game in the English championship fact if he's wanting a move take .4million for him let's get real here Gers will never conquer Europe again stuck in a poor league with no money finished finished finished

25 Aug 2011 23:17:34
i blame whyte for this he should have tried harder to get in the likes of goodwillie and juhasz etc then we would have probably qualified tonight

25 Aug 2011 22:30:47
To the guy who said who would blame jelavic for wanting away. Me , if folk stopped putting him on a pedestal and looked closer they would see he ain't that good a striker. Good forward but I would rather see a kris Boyd back at gers. Jelavic is missing sitters all the time and only gets away with it because everyone is complaining about edu. He's not as good as gers fans believe.

25 Aug 2011 23:01:29
fed up with this ' they are worse than us'. spl means nothing. need to do well in europe. 1st is scotland right now is nothing.

25 Aug 2011 23:12:22
whoever advised ally to get ortiz should be sacked he is utter p*sh

He was an embarassment, primarily because of us his lack of discipline and self respect and respect for the shirt. Plus, he's atrocious....I have not seen him beat a single man yet...3/4 good crosses, a European goal and friendly goal but God he's poor in any area of the pitch.

25 Aug 2011 23:08:04
25 Aug 2011 21:37:48
in my opinion scottish football has past its glory days. unless there is a major financial change for ALL of the clubs in the spl, then i can safely say that its going to take alot to get out of the mess that we are ALL in

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Unless the SFA man the fluck up and change to an 18 or 20 team format there will be no investment in scottish football. William Hill paid 3m for 3 years to sponsor the Scottish cup. Thats about a 3rd of whats on offer in England for their league cup. With an 18 or 20 team set up with the same as a first division we would allow sponsors to reach a larger audience, making shirt deals etc more appealing and TV deals likewise. More clubs would benefit from getting the bigger teams through thier gates and young players would start to see more value in sticking with a potential football career. I can see it, you can all see it, why the hell cant the SFA see it?

25 Aug 2011 22:24:19
Can anyone tell me who is scouting players these days?

Bocanegra - no better than Perry
Ortiz - rather play Fleck
Edu - rather be a man short
Broadfoot - honest trier
Kerkar - what's the point, 10 mins play in over a year
No strikers
No creative players
No direction and no hope

Hope Bedoya and McKay are better but will reserve judgement after seeing this lot

Did you actually see the game tonight, Bocanegra had a decent game, was better at left back but did o.k in the center - his use of the ball was intelligent and he constantly fed wylde who but about 100 crosses into the box, he also popped up and scored our goal, not a bad debut, The rest of your post is a rant - WATP

25 Aug 2011 22:51:33
mr whyte simply has to respectfully relieve ally of duties.The squad that mccoist has is good enough to defeat malmo and maribor over two legs.The reason we failed in malmo was mccoist fault poor management led to poor discipline from whittaker and bougherra,mccoist said so himself ,poor discipline again from naismith led to mccoist having to take him off against maribor then change his formation thus leading to losing two goals . As for tonights game ,where was the 3 rd sub surely kerkhar should have been brought on . Also as far as the signing policy mccoist was asked tonight if he had a list of top priorty signings that he hasnt managed to get and has had to go for players further down his list with less quality and he basically in a round about way agreed ,if he was worthwhile strong manager he wouldnt settle for third rate players sorry ally u where my hero growing up but go now and bring in george graham outta work for years rangers man thru and thru with years of experience if not him give butch wilkins a chance or better still get souness back ,bet u the first thing he would do is kick edus arse out the famous blue gates .

If it was McCoist on the park instead of Jelavic and Lafferty, we would have been in the faking groups stages, - stop blaming the Manager for the players inability to stick the ball in the net from 5 yards ffs

25 Aug 2011 22:53:42
That "vital away goal" worked a treat. If you let garbage sides off the hook you deserve all you get.

Kyle Lafferty is, and forever shall be complete and utter f@cking toilet. Zero awareness/ football intelligence and probably even less of the normal kind. Bring on Mr never plays Healy. It's just pure farce.

Randolph TB

25 Aug 2011 22:24:03
Getting a bit tired of all these Mcoist must go posts.

Should we have sacked Walter when he got us knocked out by Kaunas? Or when we were embarrassed by Rubin Kazan? Judge Ally at the end of the season, by the looks of it, they are in more trouble than we are just now

We've never played Rubin Kazan. Wonder how they embarrassed us

25 Aug 2011 22:45:25
Be as well getting rid of this page after that. Who the f*** is gonna want to come to a team who can't even QUALIFY for the Europa League? Scottish football is a total joke, and we're never gonna fix it. Full of bigots and pub teams. Now we're gonna have to watch our prized assets leave for better teams. We are supposed to be one of the biggest clubs in the world yet get beat by a team noone has ever heard of. Give the young lads a go and get that useless donkeys (Ortiz, Broadfoot, Edu, etc) on the next plane outta here Either that or get some proper quality into the team, which will now be impossible without European football as a lure, nobody wants to come and play St Mirren, Dunfermline and Aberdeen week in week out. Come on Rangers, WE ARE THE PEOPLE. Get the act together lads

25 Aug 2011 22:38:32
just listening to sportsound on bbc radio scotland and that person saying he thinks mCcoist will be gone by xmas and not lennon, what a load of nonsense

John greig

25 Aug 2011 22:34:58
Anyone no how edu gets a game with rangers cos he is terrible always has been. Broadfoot? What is th guy all about? Hes got a cheek to say play me or im off well..............c yaaaaaaa. Ortiz? Yet to c this guy beat a mm since being at gers he is shocking totally shocking waste of money

25 Aug 2011 22:22:42
scottish football is dead no more europe within 2 years our co efficent(spelling} will just get worse after tonight. thare is only one person that can sort this mess out and that is the person who runs bskyb cant remember his name.at the end of the day sky practily{spelling} run english football,so aslong as the english get richer we are always going get poorer thare has to be a brittish league and if sky want it thay will get it

25 Aug 2011 22:18:55
McCoist needs time at rangers. although i was disapointed tonight but he trying to play attacking football remember the defensive approach walter played in europe the current squad is not use to it give it time bears

in ally we trust.

25 Aug 2011 22:16:48
No Europe = No more Signings

And the signings we have made, with the exception of Goian, are utter S***.

Goian - Impressive
Bartley - Already Knew About Him

Wallace - Undecided
Bocanegra - Unipressive
Ortiz - Unimpressive
Bedoya - If he was any good wouldn't have been playing in Sweden
McKay - If he was any good wouldn't be playing in Australia

We missed out on ALL our main targets:

Goodwillie, Hemed, Miller, Verhoek, Juhasz, Cuellar.

Scottish Football Is A Laughing Stock

25 Aug 2011 22:19:25
yet another tepid performance from rangers in europe and scottish football is an embarrassment with not one team progressing beyond ......august?
malmo and maribor? two giants of football indeed....no excuses we are just simply not good enough and the sooner uefa ban scottish teams from competing in europe the better to save us from this humiliation,a lot has to be said for the new owners not giving ally the backing he needed for rangers are very short on quality and attacking options,i cant fault the boys for their effort tonight but the quality is just not there and it's a very sad day for scottish football when the champions are dumped out of europe before it really begins

25 Aug 2011 22:11:16
I have heard rumours that Craig Whyte never wanted Coisty as manager and he only inheritated him. This is the reason he has never backed him with cash Also heard that Whyte is friends with Billy Davies and he has been on stand by since Whyte took over As i said it is just rumours i have heard i dont know how much truth is in it

25 Aug 2011 22:14:33
The inquest must start from the top. The chairman has to take the blame for the total lack of investment in 'quality' players. The manager has to be held accountable for the utterly unacceptable tactics and general inability to pick the correct team of the mediocre players he has available to him. Players like Edu, Ortiz and Healy should be nowhere near the Rangers team. If we have no money then now is the time to put faith entirely in the youth coming through the ranks. We must copy the Ajax system. Play them all, give them experience, let them shine. Only the best will make it, the others can be moved on. It's the only way ahead.

I also feel Rangers (and Celtic) should not have rookie managers in charge, both clubs are way too big for anyone to be finding their feet at managerial level. Love you Ally, you're a legend but I feel we need somebody with more experience to lead us forward. Walter Smith must not come back either. We need somebody with experience but also with superior tactical knowledge with an emphasis on developing the best youngsters into first team stars. IT IS THE ONLY WAY AHEAD.

Goodnight

25 Aug 2011 22:10:22
Think people need to calm down this happened to Walter smith a couple of seasons ago wen we lost to Kaunas did anyone call for his head ? No didn't think so. get behind the team and let's get this league title in the bag no distractions of Europe this season. Would have been nice to play in Europe but it's in the past now so let's look forward instead of backwards and support ally till the end of the season and see how he does before we decide to call for peoples heads

In ally I trust
Willie

I distinctly remember folk calling for Smiths head after that game.

Still need to give McCoist a chance he's been manager for 8 competitive games and lost 2 drew 3 won 3. As long as we beat the other mob for the league then I'm happy

Willie

25 Aug 2011 22:08:58
Don't expect any new players at ibrox in the next week. Firstly why would any EPL team loan a player to any Scottish club when there is no European football for their 'youngsters' to gain experience. Secondly, even if mr whyte decides to open the cheque book again, what is the attraction in playing for rangers this season? Let's face it no one will come purely to pick up a huge salary and ride it out in the hope of European football next year, we cannot afford huge salaries. I genuinely hope something happens with the fox network in USA and we can generate an additional income stream. In my opinion the old firm need to work together on everything, it makes deals more attractive to sponsors, kit suppliers, tv revenue. Its time we were best pals off the park and rivals on it.

Get ah grip , so what your sain every player goin on loan from the premier league are going to go to ah team in europe ; dont talk rubbish

25 Aug 2011 22:11:46
To anyone who says we shouldn't sign Weiss, just take a look at tonights performance and say that again, he has the ability to change games (CIS Cup final) could have done with someone like him tonight

F*** Weiss, cheeky wee wideo who the f*** does he think he is f***ing Messi? Clearly we've not went for him cos he's got too much to say for himself. Coisty's the manager and has earned the right to have a crack. Have a bit of respect for a legend Weiss and bump your gums if you manage to achieve even 1 quarter of what Ally has in his career.

25 Aug 2011 22:04:26
The bame for this European disaster clearly lies at the door of Craig Whyte, Malmo were an average team as were Maribor. If we had made decent offers instead of going through the motions offering stupid money for decent players McCosit would have the players in place. Get behind the team , I think europe was too much too soon for our new manager. Four in a row, champions league next year. WATP

25 Aug 2011 22:02:25
rangers need a player like pedro mendes back in the midfield

Rather bring back Barry

25 Aug 2011 22:01:32
The worst part about it is we have a good enough team to stroll to 4 in a row. That's how bad the spl is

25 Aug 2011 21:50:25
Can't believe we have fallen so far behind even the also rans in European football. Pumped out of europe twice by two sides which were extremely limited. Not looking to slate ally but the quality of our play is shocking. Not only is there no pattern to our play, we continually result to playing long balls into the box hoping for any scraps at best. Is this because they are so poor they Dont have the abilty Or brains to follow even a simple game plan. It's a bad day when you have to rely on a young Greg Wylde to create anything. Clear to see that the guys we are now bringing in are probably of a poorer standard than the young guys we are trying to bring through. Bocanegra and Ortiz are not any better than the quality of a mid table SPL side. Edu don't even go there Definitely fear for us going forward. Hoping that this is a watershed moment and the club realise that shopping at Lidl won't get you players to embellish the local talent we have in Naismith, Wallace, McGregor, Ness.

25 Aug 2011 22:00:10
davis not a captain

shagger should be the captain

the youngsters should have been given their chance again.

ortiz is a league 2 standard player

mccoist couldnt manage a sunday league team. Walter had the same squad last year and look at what he accomplished - so it is mccoist managerial ability. hes rank rotten

Ryanrfc

not one of those players deserved to wear that famous blue jersey.

Mcgregor is about the only leader on the park good shout

25 Aug 2011 21:59:04
Everyone on here asking for Ally to get the sack should be ashamed of themselves...didnt Walter fail to get through against the likes of AEK Athens and Gothenburg? Allys had 5/6 competitive games in charge, hes 10/11 players down right now and lets be honest its the players who are letting us down in europe not Ally, he had 3 strikers on the park for 25 mins and we created 2/3 decent chances....just one of nights

Judge him in may when we see how many trophies we have won The man needs time we are still in August

Get behind your team or GTF

AEK are actually a decent outfit so dont compare ally and walter

25 Aug 2011 21:58:19
in regards to scottish footy...does anybody else not think that we pay our players far far too much,,a mean 20,grand a week to play in the spl is diabolical,,these teams we play against are earning 500 quid a week ffs

Well said only decent point made on here tonight healy is reported to be on 15 grand a week

25 Aug 2011 21:56:58
Now do u believe me that Ortiz is not up to the job. he shoulda been hooked long before he did. Ally's decision not to use the third sub nd hook broadfoot for another attack minded player sum baffled me. it's depressing

25 Aug 2011 21:47:45
every time i post on this site i get pelters, so here we again with what i said two weeks ago, Ally is not the man for the job, we need the best manager we can get and its not ally second point, Davis is not a skipper good player but hes not a skipper he isn'y a leader. kenny mcdowell seamed to be giving ally instructions from what i could see, which aint a good sign. Mr Whyte must do one of two things now 1-sack ally and get a manager he feels will do a job 2-give ally a huge cash injection for new players that can take this club to the next level. again guys you can give me pelters if you wish but how many more games like this will we see before the axe falls....

Totally agree with u mate


T-Bear

You say 1 sack ally and 2 give ally money. Away to bed and sleep off the drink. 3 go to Ibrox and support your team instead of sitting in your room
In Ally We Trust

Thank god someone does, i always get dogs abuse
chris

If u read the post it says he has two options u nuggit, meaning he has to do one ove the two....and i was at the game been a season ticket holder for 8 years so i'll say bit

25 Aug 2011 21:45:35
So the autposy starts now, whos to blame for Rangers (and scottish footballs) failings in europe? Is it McCoist? at the end of the day he picks the team, a team that lacked creativity, movement and a cutting edge. Or is it Whyte? no major signings in the close season before the malmo game which meant we went into the double header with a wafer thin squad. A distinct lack of funds have become apparent even though he has promised to back the boss and bartering over the smallest fees meant that we were shown up time and again in the media. Is it Gordon Smith? do we really need a director of football? what does he actually do? or is it a deeper lying problem that is not solely attributed to this club, is it Scottish footballs lack of competition, verging on amateurish clubs playing in the PREMIER league and poor tv revenue from sky who it seems are still punishing us for moving to setanta. Or does it go further in that we are not producing the type of talent that we were used to seeing in the past. There will be a knee jerk reaction to the result and the usual cries of Sack McCoist will cry out loud but if you stand back and look at Scottish footballs results tonight do we now have to realise that we are cannot now look down on these clubs and expect to brush them aside with ease. I dont claim to have the answers to the questions posed because it might not be down to one individual and may be down to contributing factors from all of these. I

You should have went to Uni and done Philosophy... Easy answer is get better players, sack the crap ones, develop the youth (which no Scottish team can say they do as we don't have any football schools) and get a decent scouting team set up (sack the current ones)

Sky are not punishing us they are simply paying for what they get. take out the old firm who else pays to watch these games. would u watch st mirren v aberdeen or would u rather watch Man Utd v Liverpool. we are never going to get a great tv deal as we are the lidl to englands M&S. we need to strat from grass root football the SFA should invest in youth thats the way forward. everybody has to look at themself from the SFA SPL to the chairmen, the lower leagues bring on most of there youth players as they dont have the funds, and when was the last time you went to a local team the football is better. what we need is a reality check

25 Aug 2011 21:40:57
so sick of this knew it was coming we get a good result against motherwell then everybody thinks we are on the right track , motherwell had much more possession of the ball in that game we scored three on the counter attack and a set piece , the midfield is shocking edu davis nothing in that match came from them , wylde has no end product might come but right now he aint ready and ortiz was and is sub standard as for david healy well hes been picking up a hefty wage from rangers for the last year or so now he has won a new years contract that will make him a wealthy man and all we ask is to finish the only decent move we put together and ill tell my 7 year boy would have put that into the top corner as for super ally never is never will be a manager simply as that as for signings i am pretty sure weiss would have ripped the guts outta that maribor team everywhere rangers got linked to fernando gago this afternoon i nearly choked on ma roll and sausage when i heard that my season ticket was ripped up after malmo game wish i had another one so i could burn get out of it rant rant got to get it off ma chest guys sorry and hopefully whyte can turn this around by firstly appointing a real experienced manager then backing him with hard cash but i wouldnae hold ma breath and i dont take any enjoyment out of celtic getting put out either all that does is make us and the whole of scottish football a laughing stock oh dear

25 Aug 2011 21:48:51
Disapointing but we ain't up to scratch just yet but we will Be anybody who comes on here tonight and slags ally or mr whyte should stop supporting rangers and go and watch the negative talkin paranoid thinking lot cos tae me yer starting to sound that way.and if ye don't agree then ye are one o them...Ed please post this one,I know everybodys entitled to there opinion but some of these posts are just pathetic.... {Ed003's Note - Agree,it's time to support}

Its been time to support since the beginning of the season, 2 european competitions later and a poor, pathetic, laughable transfer policy and were still being told...oh its ok, just support them

I support them enough to see when things are hitting the fan and i want it curbbed now before it makes a mess of the walls and ceiling...wake up rangers fans...

Ed I agree its time to support I'm going
to give my wife and kid more money
rather than that load of s***e any more.
I QUIT. {Ed003's Note - Any spare for mine?}

25 Aug 2011 21:45:55
a lot of people dont know the meaning of the word supporter they should be called support you as long as your winning give the new owner and management time at least one season

25 Aug 2011 21:41:55
Question of sport beckons

25 Aug 2011 21:40:40
please go Ally , you cost us £15 mill in the champ league and£4 mill tonight if you are a true Ranger why did you go to Sunderland instead of us the first time you got a chance . Your luck has run
out its time for Ray Wilkins to come in

Total bulls**t, wilkins has been slated that tatically and as a manager he is poor, his stregnth is ppl skilss and thats it.

You all loved Ally on sunday. get a grip

25 Aug 2011 21:37:21
Well lads av nvr felt so let down 2nyt than a have in a while, what is nxt step for us lads? Comments plz

Ideal world, better manager , more money for a new squad. real world nothing just more ove the same

Wait and see how the team ally builds comes together at least until mid season

To take your mind off tonights poor result, why don't you have a look at the other past poor results we have had in Europe? There are a lot to pick from now. Even in the days of Gazza and Lauders...

25 Aug 2011 21:35:56
I think that the absurdly early start to the season had a lot to do why both teams went out tonight.
Why cant we play summer football most other leagues are half way through their season now.
Have to say though we should be putting the likes of Malmo and Maribor out especially the latter that defence was there for the taking.
I for one never wanted ally as the manager in the first place but now he is we have to support him.
Rangers no matter what have to spend now we need that automatic champions league place and so do Celtic.

very disapointed Leeroy

25 Aug 2011 21:33:52
This isn't all Ally's fault, lets be realistic. Our league is in a serious state, there is no competition for Rangers and Celtic. This is the first time in 50 years that there is no scottish team in Europe. That says it all. Scottish football needs something and it needs it quickly. Our co-efficient will be disasterous in 2013 after this season. Whyte baught Rangers but there is hardly any money, we are spending 100K's instead of a couple of million on players, its no wonder we are second rate.

In my humble opinion i would have to say that there was only 5 players on that pitch today that deserved to wear the jersey, they were Jelavic, Bocanegro, Goian, Davis and Wylde. The rest of the team was rediculous. Broadfoot, Edu, Lafferty, Ortiz...i'm sorry but everytime they play we lose or draw...

The SFA needs to stand up now and take note of this, we need an injection of serious money, or a new Atlantic League, or a far better Marketing and PR company to promote our football.

There is only Rangers and Celtic...maybe it can't be repaired. Lets just hope Scotland win against Czech Rep, Lithuania and Lechtinstein so that we aren't a TOTAL joke throughout Europe

Not ally fault at all. totally agree.

Sir Alex would struggle to do anything with s**t players Broadfoot, Ortiz, Healy, and Edu.

We have 3 players in that side that if we were all honest we would admit they are the best as we can get, Mcgregor, Jelavic and Davis...

Is no allys fault does he pick the team ??? does he set the team up ??? does he tell tehm how to play yes to all 3 bye bye ally turn of the lights on the way out

T-Bear

I for one thought laff did alright, beat a few folk on a number of occasions. Its the whole team that are to blame. Broadfoot was ok and Edu didn't do alot wrong... the whole team are to blame

The set up lets the crap teams play against the crap teams. You saw that tonight. Perhaps in 2013 we will get a team we can beat.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink. Yes Ally picks the team and chooses the tactics but he isnt playing it for them

The problem is the SPL. Rangers and Celtic need to set up 2 new teams and apply to join the English Conference, forget about the SPL. Field the reserves in the SPL, send all our squad players to England and watch the new Glasgow Rangers and Glasgow Celtic progress through the leagues and i guarantee you they are both in the EPL by 2020

25 Aug 2011 21:32:21
So that's why Healy doesn't get a game

Cant blame Healy, sitting on the bench all the time he needs game time.

Another james beattie. Still... would have put all my money and all the money i'd ever earn on him to score that sitter. Maybe shouldn't have taken the touch and smashed it in first time.

You dont need game time to score that...for 10k i'd have scored 40 goals for them

25 Aug 2011 21:32:07
It is simple guys.

The players have let the manager and the fans down.

They better go and win the spl and a cup now

I couldnt give a toss about seltic or how crap they are.i just want to see the players earn what they are paid each week.

25 Aug 2011 21:30:56
every supporter of not only a an old firm club but a scottish club was embarassed by Rangers and Celtics performance. Iv only seen hearts scoreline but they seem to be doing ok for themselves against a tottenham team which has a strong-ish line up. SACK MCCOIST if you truly value this club and its future in septics case they need to sack lemmon as well.

25 Aug 2011 21:30:33
it proves the irish legue is a better standard
shamrock rovers are still in

25 Aug 2011 21:29:36
Mccoist to blame for buying rubbish, but you have to say that whyte has given him no help what so ever.gubbed by 2 pub teams this season.

25 Aug 2011 21:26:26
Love Rangers Football Club and fans but not that SH*TE team

25 Aug 2011 21:24:27
I think you are scared of the true on this site. My comments are never posted because I say it like it is. Mccoist and Whyte must go, they have already managed to bring the club to its knee's, anyone who says otherwise is an idiot

Well said mate certainly mccoist must be sacked straight away

You can't say that, you'll be called a plastic rangers fan or something similiar from the brainwashed ones.

RUMOUR HAS IT RANGERS WERE FAMOUS ONCE

To be fair its a rebuilding process, ortiz is gash but played ok on sunday(noone could have actually watched this guy play). broadfoot is gash but we didnt have anyone else to play rb, edu is gash but we are trying to break the american market, lafferty is gash but we dont have another striker, jelavic is not on his game at all, davis needs some help, goian, bocanegra(better at lb than ch) perry, wylde looked ok and time will help them gel - well hopefully its not the end of the world.

dessy

25 Aug 2011 21:04:41
lmao i know im a rangers fan , but rangers out celtic out hearts out , tottenham in fulham in stoke in birmingham in LMAO lol scottish football s**te.... im leaving moving to england

Both sides are not good enough to get into Euro second tier comp... It is as bad as we are all complaining about.

Old firm getting into the premiership. Who's kidding who, we wouldn't get out of the english 2nd division playing like this.

25 Aug 2011 20:21:27
I do like Davis, but the amount of times he gives the ball away is far too much. He needs a good playmaker to sit beside him.
Most of the TV people say that it is not like him to give the ball away, but I have no clue where they get this from as he does it every time. 3 times already this game.

Let's face it, we're cack. Celtic are no better. Scottish football has fallen far.

The whole team tonight are dire,nervous and without any nous ,worse than kaunas,red aces all round tonight,scottish football shown up for what it is,4 old firm games a season.utter garbage,and im being polite.

25 Aug 2011 19:24:04
Come on the gers 2night shame young mcmillan is injured he looks our best right back hope wylde gets at them early on
lets get behind the lads tonight cheer them through follow follow
steve the ger

25 Aug 2011 18:44:22
How long till edu falls over ball 2nite? Hope this is his last ever game cause he's rubbish.

Sick of this guy getting a game hes done nothing 2 deserve a game utter mince

It's folk like you are the reason his comfidence is shot - which doesnt benefit the team.

He's actually a decent player when confident and in the mood.

Thats way off the mark mate we`v been behind him long enough and he doesnt benifit the team his positional sense off the ball is pathetic watch him runnin about lost not knowing where to be or who to pick up his first touch is terrible puts himself in trouble panics and gives the ball away with slack passes then chases after it bundles the boy down and gives the foul away his tackling is poor to say the least, he has no flair or invention to have a place in rangers midfield, id give him one last chance and move him back to where he started his career as centre half he mite turn out to be a diamond in the rough at that position with his heigt and strength but never worthy of a starting midfield place im afraid

25 Aug 2011 17:36:29
anyone know a good football stream to watch the game tonight ? and do you think i should bet 50quid on tottenham to beat hearts ?

25 Aug 2011 16:43:52
Celtic fan here, rivalry aside wish yous all the best for tonight as well as us, for the sake of Scottish Football.

25 Aug 2011 16:06:20
Ed, I was the one that posted last night about the Celtic fans emailing Maribor and got shot down in flames. Has anyone seen the email yet? Good reading. Come on Rangers let's take 5 off this mob.
We Are The People.
In Ally We Trust.
Followfollow81

25 Aug 2011 15:55:27
awryt fellow bears what do you think the team will be tonight ?
mcgregor, wallace, goian, bocenegra, mcmillan, davis, mculloch, wylde, naismith, laff, jelavic

cmon rangers get into this

Naismith is suspeneded ffs

How many naismiths do some people out there think play for us newsflash their is only one and hes suspended

Theres actually 2 kal naismith. we know you were meaning steven lol

25 Aug 2011 15:50:01
seen this link and thought I would throw it in.

Gago, who out of contract in 2013, is studying the proposal of Rome Luis Enrique and Glasgow Rangers as a last resort. The cost is eight million. The Argentine has assumed that has no place in Real Madrid. The problem is finding an entity that pays its 2.2 million annual tab net.

www.abc.es/20110825/deportes-futbol/abci-lass-tottenham-201108250927.html

25 Aug 2011 15:43:08
all i have read this morning is lee mculloch and maurice edu are available for tonights game.i emplore you ally please donnt play them both tonight.i know you have to play one of them as naismith is suspended. stick by your guns don't drop mcmillen for broadfoot either the repurcussions could be severe. look at sundays showing 1000% better.

25 Aug 2011 14:07:20
Tonight could be one of the biggest games of the season. If you can, get a ticket, get along to Ibrox and sing your lungs dry. M'on the Gers
3 - 1 if Ally plays tight at 1st. 4 - 0 if the crowd are pumped and the players respond
Cannie wait...

Am still waiting to see if a can get a ticket but it is getting dodgy for time if a can i will jump straight in a taxi to ibrox to make sure am there in time

25 Aug 2011 13:40:10
has anyone got anylinks for the game 2nite ??

My p2p then press on rangers v maribor then press what link you want

Go to the pub

FROMSPORT.COM

25 Aug 2011 12:18:08
I would love it of McCoist went for it tonight, even if we went out of Europe having a real go, instead of trying to sneak it with a 1-0 and still coming undone, I think with this line up it's possible to entertain and also qualify

McGregor

McMillan Bocanegra Goain Wallace

Hutton
Ortiz Ness Wylde

Davis
Jelavic

My only other change would be Lafferty for Hutton with Davis dropping to a 4 man midfield

Think ness is inhured

Slightly unrealistic as i think dropping davis from the centre of midfield would be our own undoing id go:

McGregor

McMillan Boc Goian Wallace

Ortiz Davis Ness/Hutton Wylde

Laff Jela

Although i feel that its definate that Edu or mculloch or both will play unfortunatly

I know people hate the 3-5-2 but with Whitts and Naisy along with Ortiz ability to play full back we should go.

McGregor

Perry Goian Bocanegra

Ortiz Edu Ness Wallace

Davis

Laffs Jelavic

Wallace and Ortiz can work the wings. If Ness aint fit then McCulloch will have to do. We could also replace Bocanegra with Papac later on to keep it tight. Wylde deserves a run out but I think he should come on after an hour.

The one thing that I want to see is Ally making a substitution within the first 75 mins. It drives me up the wall when we look shattered and dont change anything.

Bluegenius

I think the team will be

Mcgreggor

McMillan,Goin, Bocanegra,wallace
ortiz edu McCulloch davivs,wylde
Jelavic

The team will be
Mcgreggor
perry , goian ,bocca ,wallace
ortiz , mculloch ,davis , wylde,
jellavic , lafferty
lafferty first goal rangers 3 - 0 win

Greegs
McMillan Goian Bocanegra Wallace

Ortiz Davis Edu Wylde

Jelavic Lafferty

AND WE'LL DO THIS MOB 3 v 1 'mon the Glasgow Rangers

25 Aug 2011 11:42:55
Weiss was too hot and cold (Mainly cold). He improved later on in the season and then got injured. I think that if he comes back he would undoubtedly get better. However fellow bears, we cannot stump up 3-3.5m on a risk, I understand we were looking as if we were going to pay 3m for juhasz and possibly 2m for verohek, but they fell through.

McCoist said one or two signings before the window shuts, after tonights result we will see what he does.

Weiss for 2m would be a good bit of business.

Yogi-bear

25 Aug 2011 10:52:17
Rangers (1) vs NK Maribor (2)
UEFA Europa League
Ibrox Stadium
25th August 2011
Kick Off 19:30

A must win game surrounded by high stakes and a fresh bout of controversy. Surprisingly, this is nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to Rangers playing in Europe.

If the players were having any trouble in finding motivation for this game then they must surely have got it when they heard the news that Maribor would be challenging the eligibility of Rangers newest recruit Carlos Bocanegra.

The big American defender pushed through an 11th hour transfer from St Etienne last week to play his part in the 1st leg of the tie but was unable to compete against Motherwell at the weekend due to not having the suitable paperwork available to play in the United Kingdom. Maribor have asked for an explanation of how it was possible for Bocanegra to play in one competition but not the other, even though the transfer and Bocanegra’s inclusion in the squad last week was cleared by the SFA.

Despite all the goings on over the last 24 hours, Bocanegra is expected to take his place in the centre of defence alongside the Romanian stopper, Dorin Goian. His inclusion will more than likely see Ross Perry drop to the bench as he continues to fill the gaps in the squad left by the suspended Steven Whittaker and the injured trio of Kyle Bartley, David Weir and Sasa Papac. Kirk Broadfoot is rated doubtful for the game also so Jordan McMillan is expected to continue at right back.

In midfield, Jamie Ness is expected to the miss the game through injury but Maurice Edu returns from suspension and there is hope (from Ally McCoist at least) that Lee McCulloch will be fit for the game. Steven Naismith will miss the game through suspension which may see Gregg Wylde start for the second game in a row as Rangers seek some attacking edge to overturn the 1st leg defeat.


blue bells are blue

McMillan should start at rb instead of Broadfoot every day of the week Surely

25 Aug 2011 10:50:35
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wee jnr

25 Aug 2011 10:44:25
Ally McCoist would have no concerns
over pitching a number of his young
stars in to their crunch Europa
League play-off round match with
Maribor on Thursday night.

Ross Perry, Jordan McMillan and
Gregg Wylde all started Rangers’ 3-0
win at Motherwell at the weekend,
with the former pair making their first
SPL starts for the club.

Other experienced players such as Carlos Bocanegra are back in contention for the second leg match against the Slovenians but McCoist says it isn’t a given they will come straight back into the side,

“I believe they did well enough to merit an opportunity against any team,” said McCoist. “You could say circumstances got them the chance, I wouldn't argue with that.

“But, at the same time, if you are given a chance and you take that chance, it would be a brave manager who wouldn't give youth that chance again.

"We are playing a team at home in what is a massive game for us but Sunday's game was a big game for us because we came off a poor result on Thursday night, we were going to a team at the top of the table, a team who hadn't lost a goal, and our young lads handled it well.

“That was very encouraging and, from that point of view, I wouldn't have any fears about playing them against anybody.”

Rangers go into the second leg 2-1 down from their visit to Slovenia, and McCoist knows it is vital his team do well for both themselves and the greater good of the Scottish game.

“I can only speak for our own club and it is important. We all have a responsibility to do our best for the co-efficient and we will do that,” said the Gers boss.

“This is an opportunity for us to do our bit and we know how difficult the task will be but it's not something we are shirking from. We feel we can do it and we will give it our best shot.”

stv. sport

blue bells are blue

25 Aug 2011 09:20:58
Ok so lets look at our transfer
activity as it stands today...

In -

Bartley loan
McKay 0.3
Bedoya 0.3
Bocanegra 0.4
Goian 0.5
Ortiz 0.5
Wallace 1.5

Total 3.5m

Out

Weiss - returned loan
Douif - returned loan
Foster - returned loan
Bougherra 1.7
Adam money recvd 0.8

Total 2.5m

Spent £1m - and 3 players better off

I still think we need at least a left
mid / winger, & a proven goal scorer.

A lot of folk are saying we need a left winger/midfielder but with Wylde and Makay I think we're covered. Plus Wallace could play there if Papac came in at LB.

Mckay, bedoya, wylde & naisy will/ could cover the left side even wallace a super sasa could fill in there- i totally agree with the striker we are desperate for some one with a goal or 2 in them,get beattie/healy off the books both a waste of wages and big davie wier to become a coach end of season

25 Aug 2011 08:42:31
Morning fellow Bears, MY PREDICTION for tonight.... GLASGOW RANGERS (CHAMPIONS) 3 v Ma(@RSE)ribor 1, whats everyone else' think ? Rangers 'til I die

Av got a fiver oan 3-0 and 4-0

Lafferty to score a hattrick

25 Aug 2011 10:11:05
IMO we won't sign a new striker but hope i'm wrong, we have jelavic, Lafferty, Healy, Naismith can play up front & unfotunately don't forget Beattie.

I think we need to forget Beattie, he never even gets in the squad.

25 Aug 2011 08:06:14
jela 3-1 tonight

IVE GOT JELA 2-0. EASY MONEY

24 Aug 2011 23:57:36
hey guys, any news on the trials of Rhys Murphy and that spanish kid?

24 Aug 2011 22:06:22
Ed do you think rangers could afford to buy marvin emnes from middlesbrough as he has been in great form and he would be a great partner for big jela up front {Ed001's Note - no, a couple of English Prem sides are watching him closely, I doubt Rangers could compete on wages.}