Rangers Banter Archive September 24 2015

24 Sep 2015 18:57:48
I'm reading a lot here about needing a good defensive midfield player. I'm told that's actually Dominic Ball's natural position, so I would try playing him there as a sweeper in front of the two CDs and to cover for whatever wing-back is pushing forward. This would leave a choice of Holt, Halliday and Zelalem for the other two central places and offer us just a wee bit more security. Since Oduwa can also play in the centre, it would have the added bonus of not seeing much of Law again. Better to try and test things now while we can. The league's almost certainly going to be won anyway.

25 Sep 2015 09:05:42
We're playing a high line and it's modern football we're playing. It's obsolete and a myth to believe in the defensive holding midfielder these days. Arsenal have done pretty well without one the last 10 years.

People say Kiernan and Wilson aren't fast enough but they're a damn sight quicker than the likes of a McKinnon and Greig, Jackson and Forsyth. Halliday and Zelalem are must starters for us and we need their creativity. A Scott Brown ? No thanks. Lots posting we need Eustace and yet none have ever seen him play. I don't get that one. It's clear we need to score the first goal to limit this counter attacking philosophy of our opposition and McKay should start and Miller, if he does, sticks to the centre. I don't mind conceding 2 goals with this attacking style if we score 6.

25 Sep 2015 09:33:47
Kfraser. Defensive mid is a more relevant role now more than ever due to attacking style of modern full backs.
Siting arsenal as a model for success over 10 years is defeating your own argument.
Compare them to Chelsea (essien, matic) or man u (carrick, keane) every great team has a midfield dynamo. Real, barca. Great attacking quality supported by a rock.

25 Sep 2015 19:46:35
I agree with kfraser.In this League it will be an empty jersey.If he does put someone in that role it should be on a horses for courses basis.
Maybe certain away games.

26 Sep 2015 07:28:29
Kfraser what utter nonsense in one swoop you have proved your football knowledge is mince, I'm assuming you have heard of Patrick viera in your wee bubble? Arsenals biggest problem is they have replaced a world class defensive midfielder with inferior ones like diaby, song, flamini and even now coquelin, all decent players but not as good as viera . One of the Arsenal fans biggest gripes is that arsen won't go out and spend big money on a decent one as well as a striker, hence the fact they are constantly linked with the likes of Sami kidera . The def mid position is one of the most important positions in the modern game and all successful teams have good ones.

{Ed001's Note - Vieira was a box to box midfielder, Petit was the defensive midfielder in that Arsenal midfield. Gilberto Silva replaced him and was the one that Wenger never replaced.}

26 Sep 2015 18:24:33
What you mean like Keane was a box to box midfielder and not a sitting midfielder? The reason I left petit out was the op said in the last 10 years and I thought he was gone longer than that .

{Ed001's Note - aye, Keane was too, good point, I never saw that reply. Silva was the defensive midfielder Arsenal missed though. Once he went they stopped winning.}

24 Sep 2015 15:27:55
i keep seing messages saying we need a striker ? what chance has Hardie been given, and being realistic how much of a run has Clark had ? the odd game now and again is hardly a decent run.
Miller has burned out and is only worth a seat on the bench, at best.
Would also like to see Gasparotto recalled in January and be given a chance in the defence, perhaps on the bench to start with, Kiernan and Wilson aren't cutting it for me and need to be looking over their shoulders at competition for their places

24 Sep 2015 15:44:58
Wee bill we can't really find much fault in our management team, but I honestly think me gave john eu stance to much time to recover, if he had brought in a man to sit in front of the back four I think he would have went a long way to amending our problem, then was je was fit stuck him in font of back 4 as that was the original plan, so if je is not 100 percent com Xmas this is a space most define toy needing filled, other managers worth there salt can see it, why can't me or big Dave.

24 Sep 2015 17:34:22
Weebill

That is actually a very good shout on Gasparotto he is highly rated and Warburton seems to know how to improve young players. That said he thinks loan will be better for him.

Personally I feel now we know exactly why he wanted Eustace as a sweeper to protect the defence hope he is in team soon

KT

24 Sep 2015 08:51:41
Perhaps Barcelona's 4-1 defeat to Celta puts our own defeat to St. Johnston into perspective a little :)

24 Sep 2015 09:34:57
Lol do us a fav puts what into perspective m8 the fact u got done by the big bhoys or the fact u lot seem to think your playing like barca anyway was good to see how far uv came am I not right in saying the gardener beat them last year?!!!

24 Sep 2015 09:46:52
Is there a smell in here?

24 Sep 2015 09:58:50
puts it into perspective that any team can beat any other team. Celta vigo a fairly average team beating in my opinion the best team currently. rangers were done by the better team on the night, like barca

24 Sep 2015 13:55:01
Aye shandyboy. Did they not beat your lot as well last season? And wasn't it at Porkheid?