24 Oct 2016 22:49:38
been watching game this morning again on r t v celtic appeared to be far fitter than us considering they played in champions league to say it was closer game than the last but i would say it was 1 - 0 going on 5 looking at the players that warburton has brought in scince he came the only won who would command a decent feet would be tav the rest would be 2 lucky bags and a balloon i wondered when we signed garner why preston did not demand a bigger fee we now no why they are scoring goals and winning games without him and i now hear kranars injury is the same one that bothered him in america to me its going to be a long season starting against hearts.
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24 Oct 2016 21:26:21
Warburton needs to pick a settled team and have the grace to change the system depending on each game. After all the hullabaloo about signing Windass and Crooks pre-season between them they have hardly kicked a ball. Same too for Rossiter. Despite the Celtic gloating they only won 1-0 and who knows what the score would have been had we scored early on.
The Barton farce and Kranjcar injury are unfortunate distractions but I'd like to see everyone fit and a team starting that includes Rossiter, Windass, Dodoo and Crooks. What about Liam Burt? King will need to put his money up in January and sign two or three class players otherwise we'll be chasing Celtic for years as they'll continue to get Champions League money to reinvest. I still think we will finish 2nd and we now have four winnable league games coming up, three at home.
24 Oct 2016 23:01:09
Looking at how bigger teams down south have done when signing big in January, I don't think it's the way to go.
25 Oct 2016 15:35:56
I don't no why MOH wasnt introduced in the last 15mins and i'm the first to say his performances so far haven't merited him a place in the team but with 15 to go and backs to the wall he was the perfect outball for me but for some reason MW went with waggy who i'd beat in a race.
25 Oct 2016 16:52:40
we won't spend money in January and if we do it would be a mistake we have to see where this squad take us this season and then add from there but the jan market isn't the answer and almost always backfires.
we don't have money to spend and until the fat rat and his contract have been dealt with we won't have any income so why spend money we don't have to chase a selik team that will win the league at a canter anyway .
I say fight for second and try our best to challenge next season and hopefully sports direct will be out of the picture.
24 Oct 2016 22:40:53
Been reading comments from fans and journalists comparing rangers and aberdeen and mw and mcinnes. Since we went down aberdeen have finished 8th,3rd then 2nd twice. 32pts, 31pts, 17 and 15pts behind celtic with the 2nd highest budget in the spl. Mcinnes and aberdeen have done well but it took them time to get there. Be realistic of how we have changed as a club and where we are on our journey.
24 Oct 2016 21:58:18
MacLeish was a lucky manager, he will b in charge next season. I bet a gallon o diesel on ot.
24 Oct 2016 22:15:10
I really liked big red when he was our manager but we have a manager and i'm certain he will still be our manager next, totally convinced he will! I think he should be and i still back and rate warbs. Get behind him!
25 Oct 2016 00:25:07
McLeish left rangers in third place, no thanks.
25 Oct 2016 01:18:23
Stuzo , im more than happy we have mw, but in your reference to mcliesh being a lucky manager, surely its a good manager and not a lucky one we should use every time.
25 Oct 2016 20:05:20
Big Eck could be deemed lucky but we've got to remember he was up against the best Selik team in 40yr so he deserved abit of luck but imo i don't think he's the answer tbh.
24 Oct 2016 21:06:16
Ed, as you know there is quite a lot of rangers supporters on here, wanting derek mciness to replace mark warburton as the new rangers manager. I'm a big fan of warburton myself and think he should be given a lot more time in his total rebuilding job of our football club. Regarding mciness, i think he's an ok manager, nothing at all special, imo not the man to be the next rangers manager whenever that position comes up. Where do you stand regarding derek mciness ed, do you rate him highly as a manager and a future glasgow rangers manager?
{Ed039's Note - I think McInnes has done a cracking job at Aberdeen, but I am also of the opinion that the talk of Warburton getting the sack is ludicrous, but I would encourage him to go back to his original signing policy, players of a decent age who have maybe lost their way a little and have something to prove rather than some of the drivel we have seen arrive since June this year)
25 Oct 2016 08:18:31
Agree with the ed %100.
I don't think there's any manager that could guarantee success at Ibrox in the short term. For me we were lucky to get Warburton and we'd be mental to get rid of him just now. We have a tendancy to heap pressure onto ourselves in these situations and i constantly hear "the rangers way" being passed to suggest we have a god given right to beat every team in this league, we dont. We have to earn our place back up there and every team along the way is going to dig in and make it difficult.
25 Oct 2016 11:52:34
I know we've very much had our differences of opinion on here super ally but i echo everything you've said there! Terrific post mate!
24 Oct 2016 19:34:23
Unfortunately we were beaten by the better team yesterday.
The lads put on a better display than the last game and it still fell well short of what was required.
We must now focus on the league and competing with Aberdeen, hearts and St. Johnstone.
All this talk of getting rid of Warburton is understandable to an extent but needs to stop.
If a car is crashing and you swap the driver it still crashes just with someone different at the wheel!
I agree that Warburton is frustratingly stubborn with his tactics etc. however, he is our manager and has made massive changes which will benefit us in the future.
This is just my opinion so take it how ever you want.
24 Oct 2016 22:13:28
its clear in my opinion warbs isn't up to it, nearly all his signings have been poor his tactics are terrible and he sticks by the same players that aren't performing and doesn't give other players a chance despite using the phrase 'using the squad' which he doesn't we also have the poorest conversion rate of goals per chances in the league and also don't seem to be as fit as other teams his time is nearly up.
25 Oct 2016 00:00:42
As a club we can't accept the current situation- being Celtics whipping boys.
Warburton must be given to end of season to show real progress to changing that.
But him saying the gap is closing doesn't inspire confidence.
25 Oct 2016 00:45:52
The manager is OK but he needs to drop McKay and change his captain. Then things might improve and we might just about get 3rd place. Reality however is that we need significant investment and I don't see it coming from King!
25 Oct 2016 11:56:58
I honestly think 2nd is very achievable which i hate saying as a glasgow rangers supporter, but we have to realise where we've been and it will take time. that's NOT me saying that we should drop our expectations of aiming to win EVERYTHING we participate in!
24 Oct 2016 19:10:00
If Rangers received £30,000,000 investment for the next transfer window, would you be happy with Mark Warburton being the manager who gets to spend this investment? Also coukd you give a reason for your answers.
{Ed039's Note - What a silly question that is)
24 Oct 2016 23:29:55
Agree it's a silly question, difficult to judge what he may or may not do with the kind of money that Rodgers was given.
25 Oct 2016 00:01:56
Is 30m based upon rapid catastrophic devaluation of the pound?
24 Oct 2016 21:49:48
He will be lucky to get 30 thousand. Ed any idea why harry forrester wasn't in squad yesterday.
{Ed039's Note - None sorry, there was no note of any injury that I seen but I haven't looked too far into it to be honest)
24 Oct 2016 17:29:09
Like we all think it wasn't a great performance and the result sucked but watched MW interview on sky and he made me feel a bit better🤔
Like he said are we going to put the correct foundations in place and do not intend spend crazy money like we did in the past✌️️
Chin up Gers fans and stick in there✊✊🇬🇧.
24 Oct 2016 17:56:51
It's as simple as this guys you get more good times than bad being a gers supporter.
24 Oct 2016 19:05:10
so take it he doesn't think joey barton wages are crazy money cause i certainly think they are this summer signings are on high wages and hardly getting a game and garner and ohallaran who we have spent cash on can't get in the team untill formation changes bad results will continue.
24 Oct 2016 23:07:23
If you think that we don't need to spend a good bit of money to even compete with them then your not in touch with reality.
25 Oct 2016 10:18:25
Yeah! I mean you only need to look at Leicester and the amount they had to spend to compete with the big boys in the EPL! . Biffo - Your obsession us spending money to compete is inaccurate.
24 Oct 2016 16:45:55
I hate when managers are too stuborn to change. Mark Warburton is one of these managers right now. The football we are playing is rubbish, the ball goes sideways or towards our own goal most of the time. There never seems to be a decent final ball and when there is no one is there to finish it.
25 Oct 2016 10:19:24
Mate that's nothing to with the managers. That's player being clueless and an attacking 3 who aren't on form. Would like to see O'hall and Dodoo put in tbh.
24 Oct 2016 16:42:02
MW is still the man to turn things around. It was never going to be easy, first season back in the SPL. The guy was given less than half a million transfer money. When is the last time a Rangers Manager was given that amount? Even the great Walter Smith would struggle on that budget. He's done well with what he has but we need someone to invest. Celtic are able to spend 5 million on a single player right now. We haven't spent that on our entire squad. Its like having a stick and having to fight a guy with a sword. I agree we have not had the greatest of starts this season but some people calling for Warburtons head so early is ridiculous. And the post on here saying Stuart McCall would have done a better job is laughable.
24 Oct 2016 18:25:38
Half I mill? Garner £1.5 mill ? £400, moh? Everyone hurts when their team gets beat but at least stick to real points.
24 Oct 2016 23:08:32
Blue ranger
He paid £1.8m for Garner so where are you getting the £500k figure from?
24 Oct 2016 23:44:55
I believe Warburton deserves to be supported by board and fans. We are facing a different challenge and doing ok with several disappointments. then the harsh reality of well beaten by celtic distorts rational thinking. However I am now wishing to hear something different from our manager who overloads with 'work harder' and 'learning'. needs to reassess formation and tactics. that will allow us to see the learning. I'm kinda feeling no significant changes equals no learning.
24 Oct 2016 16:31:55
Honestly, i don't think we are missing a terrible lot to be able to challenge. If you compare this squad to that from when we last won the title there's a few areas that are no doubt a massive gap in terms of quality but just say with our current squad we had jelavic up top, naismith playing an attacking wide role, steve davis but really outside of that is there anyone from that squad who could walk into the current team?
25 Oct 2016 00:25:09
Aye every single one of them don't kid yourself mate not one of our team just now would have got near that rangers team.
24 Oct 2016 16:00:33
hello boys/ girls, the dust has settled after yesterdays game and poor result, but let's be realistic here, Celtics defender cost more than our whole team put together, 7 weeks ago we got ripped apart 5-1. now 7 weeks on from that, we went down to a narrow 1-0 defeat, we showed great team spirit and competed all over the park till the final whistle, so hats off to MW and DW and the players for showing that they have that fighting spirit about them, the last 10 minutes where hard to watch right enough, the goal was coming, but we move on now, looking forward to Wednesday night, and Saturday, heres hoping we gain 6 points from them 2 games, we're playing better football now, and there's a long way to go, so let's take the positives from yesterdays game and take this into the end of season.
24 Oct 2016 17:07:41
The guys did try il give them that but imo it is criminal and inexcusable how unfit some are I know we have a few young guys who in my experience tend to waste energy opposed to older pros who know when to conserve abit but this isn't even half way through season we aren't burning boys out by playing european matches! For me that is the hardest thing to take as a super fit team is hardest to beat.
24 Oct 2016 22:23:08
Did you actually watch the game? They controlled the game from start to finish and could easily have scored 5 or 6. They are far superior in every department and how many of our players would get in their team? We were fortunate not to get another hiding and can anyone honestly say they are confident taking anything off them this season.
25 Oct 2016 00:51:42
We still got ripped apart and Gilks saved us from another embarrassing score line. We played for most of the match with ten men since McKay did absolutely nothing for the entire time he was on the park. What is more, we don't have a captain, Wallace is not a leader and never will be and in this league he is being found out as no more than a mediocre defender.
We are well behind Celtic and possibly Hearts and Aberdeen as well. We need remedial surgery and it won't happen without some serious investment. If King is unwilling or unable to do so then he needs to find someone that can.
24 Oct 2016 15:11:57
end of the season warbs goes and bring in Neil Warnock.
{Ed039's Note - I honestly think that I was very close to banning you for that statement :-)
24 Oct 2016 15:51:20
Out of a matter of interest, who would you want to be the next rangers manager ED, if it did happen to go pear shaped for warbs?
{Ed039's Note - Karl Robinson has just left MK Dons and is a very highly rated coach, he would be my personal favourite)
24 Oct 2016 16:26:40
Quite like Karl Robinson myself ed and if my mind serves me correct was he not approached or spoke about through a 3rd party to see if he'd be interested in the rangers manager's job before warburton actually got it? I do think though warburton and robinson are very similar styled coaches, don't you think ed?
{Ed039's Note - Robinson has had very little resource at MK Dons and done a fantastic job, he does not play the same formation as Warburton but yes they are similar but not the same)
24 Oct 2016 17:22:15
Ed, what formation does Karl Robinson play?
{Ed039's Note - 4-1-4-1)
24 Oct 2016 18:22:12
He may change his style in our league supercooper! I have thought derek adams has the makings of a good manager for a while now! Not saying that's who i'd go for just someone off top of my head! I really hope warbs can turn it around.
24 Oct 2016 15:10:52
On current Form we have No Chance of Finishing 2nd.
The Manager is Stubborn as hell, he won't drop players that are out of form.
The stats from yesterdays game are frighting
Celtic had 24 shots to our 8
58% to 42% Possession
corners 8 to 1
There only stat that counts is goals, well if you don't shoot you don't score 1 shot!
MW "we are closing the gap"! dream on.
24 Oct 2016 15:08:56
Gutted about the result yesterday but it was a close game I think the gers defened really well as for the rest of the season did anyone of us really expected to win the league this season even as much as we hoped for it even Davies king said we'd go after celtic the next season I can see celtic dropping point the next two game away to Ross County and Aberdeen we have to home games.
24 Oct 2016 14:04:23
I can't believe how fickle football fans are, one minute warburtons got a magic hat the next minute he's crap and should be sacked, how about getting behind him and give the man time to build a decent team, plus he's been very unlucky with injuries this year as a matter of fact he's probably not had his first choice 11 on the park yet, just give the man time and stop being so impatient, Celtic have added a couple of very good players on top of a decent squad along with a good manager, but that's no reason to want the gaffer sacked, just back him and get behind the players, if anyone thought that we would just stroll back into the premiership and challenge then they are very mistaken, if we can Finnish second I, d call that massive step in the right direction, I know we all love rangers but just get behind them and let them do their job.
24 Oct 2016 15:59:33
Here, here Delboy9,your spot on mate, we have a small minority of narrow minded, impatient rangers supporters (if we can call them supporters), they only want to support 'THE GLASGOW RANGERS' when everything's rosy and we're winning everything. Not the way and NEVER will be imo. Give the manager and the team time and get right behind them!
24 Oct 2016 12:07:30
Bottom line is a manager has to get the best out of what he has and its not happening! I would love to play the way warbs wants but I would much rather win football matches! To achieve what warbs wants I feel will take millions to buy technically gifted players which we don't have! We need an old school gaffer with proper discipline! Get players super fit and working ther socks off! That will bring far more joy than passing the ball around trying to look like a football team! Socks up and stuck in!
24 Oct 2016 14:19:33
Nic I can't disagree with most points it's the cost of cutting ties that worries me though. We need to see this season out and make a decision in the summer. If the unthinkable happened and we parted ways with warbs during the season I would go all out to get Souness and Joe Jordan in for the short term. Old school and a Rangers man who knows what this club is all about. Modernised football is fine if you can get away with it but the players need to know that defeat is unacceptable at our great club. Too many empty shirts don't seem to know what it means to step up against that lot. Gilks and Hodson should start on Wednesday if not ill be baffled.
24 Oct 2016 16:15:45
Ger88,i truly think we should give warbs time as imo he'll get us there. A wee point on a scotland legend who i respect to the hilt, big joe (jaws) jordan. My gran god rest her soul, was originally from chapelhall and was brought up beside big joe's family from his mother's side. My gran was always in and out joe's mother's house and was best pals with joe's mums sister cathy. When i was 7 years old i had the privilege of getting my picture taken holding big joe's scotland jersey (still with the grass stains on it) when he scored the goals that beat czechoslovakia 3-1 at hampden. Big joe is a true gent and proper legend and my gran always raved and spoke highly of joe's mums side and the jordan side. She was very friendly with them. When i met joe as a wee boy i thought i was the bees knees, i can always remember how big he was next to me, a giant of a man.
24 Oct 2016 21:29:11
Suoercoop I do agree Warbs should be given time. Certainly not on the bandwaggon of getting shirt of him. However you know yourself mate football is a results driven business and King said last summer he wanted the Championship won then to challenge for the spfl title. To get a cup win and finish in top 3 this season would be great but we are just too inconsistent and it seems warbs doesn't yet know his best 11 (injuries withstanding) .
Jaws is a great football man and I believe Harry Redknapp rates him so highly from the Pompey and Spurs days. It's a shame he's not involved day to day.
24 Oct 2016 22:02:10
Difficult to get the best out pdf players when they are on the treatment table. Add to that the fact that we don't have a leader on the park and we have a manager that refuses to drop players that simply are not performing and are not capable of performing any better. Wallace will never be a captain, McKay will never be a premier league player. We have a lot of work to do, just to stand still. Risks were taken in the summer with the players brought in from the bargain basement. So far they are not working.
If we want to catch up with and overtake Celtic then real investment is needed, otherwise we will just need to accept being also-rans for a number of years.
24 Oct 2016 22:07:03
I hate to say it but I would give anything for the grit and determination we showed during the Souness era.
24 Oct 2016 22:25:50
Yes that's exactly what we need to go backwards and start humping the ball up the park
We are only 3/ 4 months into our first season back with a small budget due to no Europe money and a disgraceful kit deal
When we finish 2nd if we do improve as the season develops, mind we were very unlucky to lose to the sheep, the Europa Cup money plus I would hope we get rid of this awful kit deal for next season and both these should mean £15/ 20m
Add the season tickets and a very likely share issue and we will then and only then be able to afford to buy the quality of players Celtic are buying
Only then can anyone fairly judge Warburton!
Be honest how do you think Walter would have done if you remove the Laudrups and Garcignes plus countless other internationals and even the last team he won league with was full of top internationals from shagg*r to Naismith and Davis. Walter won by being well disciplined but also because we had top level players. Warburton has possibly 2/ 3 players that at their best would get into Walters teams Niko when fit Miller just and McKay when on form possibly Halliday and Wallace at peak form Garner and his level of players basically the rest of the squad would be bench warmers at best
Patience and reality check required. Thank god the board not fickle part time supporters are in charge of thee decisions. Warburton will stay if we finish in top 3 and fingers crossed we get a good run in Scottish cup.
24 Oct 2016 11:58:11
The fact is rodgers is a better manager than Warburton. Hate to admit that. And he isn't afraid to drop big players. There are players in rangers team that know they won't be dropped Wallace and especially mckay need took out of the firing line. Give dodoo and moh a chance and as for rossiter brilliant prospect but always been injury prone. Garner in my opinion isn't able to play upfront on his own give him a chance playing with someone. And unless money is spent celtic will be going for 10 in a row. They have champions league money plus if they sell dembele they will get at least 10million and probably the same money for tiernan.
24 Oct 2016 22:07:10
I tend to agree in terms of dropping big players but with us it is not even 'Big' players that seem to be beyond dropping. McKay is out of his depth in the Premier League, Wallace is a poor captain with no leadership qualities. McKay should be no where near the team, until there is someone better Halliday should be given the captaincy.
As for Garner, not sure why we signed him, he is certainly not an adequate replacement for Miller.
24 Oct 2016 11:15:20
I would have rated our defense as doggid, nothing more. But I do feel sorry for them as they get slated week in week out as they are playing a style of football they so obviously can't adapt to. Our manager wants to play a lovely build from the back style football, well if that's the case you don't buy 31 and 38 year old defenders that have played a certain way and can't adapt. You buy young, you buy fast, you buy clever, and if you can't find that get someone in on loan, don't just buy because you can. I think most of us would rather have seen a bunch of young raw defenders coming in allowing MW and DW to mold them into what they want, not buy out of date bandages to try and patch up something.
MW wanted time when he joined us to build a team around his philosophy of football and we were more than happy with that. So how does that work when your two marque transfers are on there last pay cheque? That you tried to fix a slow defense by bringing in even slower players. That you can't see what all the fans see about certain players who just haven't cut it this season. Drop McKay, Drop Waggy allow miller to get rests. Get dodo on, get MOH on give garner a run of games.
Is he seeing something we are not?
24 Oct 2016 12:54:43
Warburton, is stubborn and useless. Totally totally useless! Out his depth, out of excuses, we are learning? We silenced the critics? Incredible, this man is A rabbit in the headlights.
King and board have flannelled us all with bull. Why have they failed to find investment? Why?
The signings are a joke and the management of those signings is a joke! Let's stop all the let's be positive crap, this current management team and recruitment process is a shambles.
24 Oct 2016 12:59:27
The fact that Wallace hasn't got direct competition is irritating.
He'll play every game this season unless injured. No matter what his form is like.
Hodson won't play even a handful of league games unless either two get injured. Warburton wouldn't drop Wallace or McKay even if his job depended on it.
Who knows what it would take for them to have a little time on the bench.
St Johnstone is ideal since its only a couple of days since the last game but even if a few players are rested, the MW favourites will be back this weekend, guaranteed.
24 Oct 2016 13:23:01
Sure wallace and mckay have both been dropped already this season and if anyone genuinely thinks moh or dodoo are deserving of a starting place then i don't know what games you have seen as neither of them have played a good match for us.
The issue is investment but we would need upwards of 15mill a season for players to compete with celtic which will not happen unless we can get into europe and start generating cash.
24 Oct 2016 17:28:02
Get a grip, GDOG10.The rangers manager ain't useless its some supporters who are brainless and totally oblivious to where we were and where we've been. We are rebuilding the full club, try and grasp that!
24 Oct 2016 11:10:43
"He was one of our best players last season".
Honestly don't know how many times this has been posted on Rangers forums lately. Getting a little too repetitive and boring TBH.
Fans seem to forget the quality of opposition we've come up against this season compared to last. We could go a decent run of games in the Championship without coming up against a Hibs or a Falkirk.
Every game we play this season in this league, the standard of opposition is that of a Falkirk or Hibernian last season.
These games were not easy and there will be no game between now and the end of the season that we can take for granted in the slightest.
Understand why he said it but, anyone else think MW heaped unnecessary pressure on himself by saying the difference in quality between the Championship and this league isn't all that much?
24 Oct 2016 09:28:35
We were outplayed and it's King's fault? I don't think so. Barton and Kranjcar were brought in on big wages, two and a half million pounds worth of signings sit on the bench every week. How much exactly has Rogers spent? Not much more than Warburton. If I were King and asked for almost 2 million for a striker and watch him warming the bench every week because what we have at nearly 37 is better, I'd want my money back.
24 Oct 2016 10:02:05
Get a grip kfraser, my sides are splitting, you say brendan rodgers hasn't spent much more than mark warburton, i think you've just popped down from mars for a visit! Honestly some fans are unbelievable!
24 Oct 2016 10:32:59
Supercooper i think the point kfraser is making is rogers spent £500,000 on dembele who has scored 14.and £3.5 m on sinclair who has scored 8 and both are first names on team sheet whereas warbs has spent £1.8m on garner and £500,000 on moh and both are bench warmers and don't forget the nearly £1m spent on compensation for another 3 or 4 who are not delivering for one reason or another plus factor in the wages for barton and nico then warbs has spent a considerable amount to be 5th in a pish league out of first cup and and having gained max points from 3 games out of 9 to teams in btm 6.and failed to beat 1st and 2nd with 3rd and 4th still to play. considering most on here admit that although celtic are the best of a poor lot . they are all pish teams. so where does tgat put us.
24 Oct 2016 10:45:16
I had a look last night to see how Mallorca are getting on. Mallorca remember were the club that Robert Sarver took over
after he was told that Rangers didn't want his money.
Anyway, after a number of years flirting with relegation, Mallorca have stabilised and moved up the Spanish second division since Sarver became involved.
A new technical director has been brought in and six experienced new players. They are now safely in mid table.
#justsayin.
24 Oct 2016 11:33:23
I've always asked fans to give mw time but I can see where his critics are coming from. My biggest problem with him is the blind loyalty he shows to certain players. I like mackay but he's struggling big time but he plays every game. keirnan is another one that he's desperate to fit into the team ok he played better in semi but could u trust him every week. It will be interesting to see if king finds money for Jan I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
24 Oct 2016 11:34:10
Our realistic target for this season is second place with an entry into the UEFA cup. Even that is going to be a hard slog. This should always have been the case but the fans would not have accepted that coming from the club. We cannot get back up to the premiership and automatically expect to run-a-mock because we're Rangers and that's what the fans expect, winning the title!
We were comprehensively beaten in Septembers old firm game. Yesterday was hardly a demolition and a step in the right direction. The squad we have held up to yesterdays challenge but we need further seasoned additions in January to even reach second place in the league. The BetFred Cup has no entry into Europe, so no big deal there on the loss apart from the hurt of being beaten by them. It's not an OF loss in the league and doesn't put any further point difference between us and them. There is also nothing to say that the form of our competitors will not dip over the season. Keep the faith, no scapegoat required.
24 Oct 2016 14:09:30
it's easy to say he spent 500k of dembele when the guy is on more money a week than everyone of our players.
24 Oct 2016 17:25:08
Sinclair cost £4 million!
24 Oct 2016 21:41:12
Would agree with the post paying nearly £2m for a striker then hardly playing him doesn't make sense when money is tight. As you say what does it say when a guy who is nearly 37 plays before him. Throw into that the £400k paid for O'Halloran who hardly plays and you have to question the managers judgement. The recruitment over the summer has been a disaster and the season is rapidly disintegrating in front of us. Think this will be a long hard season with more pain to come.
24 Oct 2016 09:06:53
I, lkie everyone else here, am hurting after yesterday.
The only thing making it worse is the in-fighting and fellow blue noses fighting amongst ourselves. I have heard a ton of people slating where we have reached and the people who have got us there. So instead of just moaning I would like to hear the alternatives.
King's is a liar and should go! - Ok what/ who is the alternative that is going to be better?
Warbs has failed! - Ok who are you going to replace him with that will be able to improve the club top to bottom and bring in a whole team on a budget like we have?
Our system doesn't work at the top level! - Name all the top teams who play 4,4,2?
MOH is the next messiah and a front line of Dodoo, Garner and MOH are the new MSN! - What is this based on and why do you think playing 2 seasons of football manager gives you a better view of ability than those actually watching these players in training?
Just wondering!
24 Oct 2016 09:45:57
Wake up! There are several managers out there, some of which we haven't heard of, capable of managing this team in this crap league. McColl for a start should not have been allowed to go in my opinion.
When will 'fans' on here accept that Warbs is NOT up to the task. McKay hasn't kicked a ball all season, so for me yes Dodoo would get a look in. 1.6m on a striker when a blind man could see we needed 2 defenders, one would have been a start! that's unforgivable.
This constant denial that it's not working, Plan A Plan B bullish! t! We have a defender as an assistant yet we are dreadful at the back, truly dreadful.
King MUST share some of the blame, there is NO money, he promised money, why not? Why have we no investment since the new board?
These are all valid questions, we are awful, they did NOT silence the critics do me a favour, this man is on another planet with some of his comments, he is not what we need in this league and never will be.
Unless something dramatic happens from now till the end of the season, start accepting Celtic will win 10 in a row. The final knife to the back for us all.
I am sick to the bottom of my stomach.
24 Oct 2016 13:45:50
GDog, I am very much awake.
You mention the Warbs not "being up to the task".
I think that we need to remember what the task was.
It wasn't just to "manage this team in this crap league"
It was to
1) reshape the footballing side of the club from top to bottom.
2) Build a young hungry SQUAD from the shambles that we had in place.
3) get into the crap league
4) become competive and challenge in this league.
Now I'm not a naive child or a blind Warburton fan but there were fewer candidates in British football that looked more capable of these targets than Warburton.
Has he made mistakes - Yes! Of course he has, he confirms this himself. However suggesting Stuart McCall would have been a better appointment to achieve all of this is laughable! I like McCall as a coach but he doesn't have the ability to do all of this.
24 Oct 2016 14:10:32
u think mccall is better than Warburton therefore everything else u say is invalid. ludicrous.
24 Oct 2016 22:37:46
King will say there HAS been investment and he'd be right, however little but still there has been. Had we got the striker we realistically could get and wanted, great the same goes for the 1 or 2 defenders and 1 or 2 midfielders then it would have been what we needed.
24 Oct 2016 08:33:20
Celtic were the better team yesterday, so fair play to them and grats. What made it far worse for us was the number of times we gave away the ball way too easily. Yes Celtic were pressing but still way too many short passes going to Celtic. Now for a team that relies a lot on possession that's suicide, not sure if it was nerves or whatever very disappointing though.
24 Oct 2016 21:53:09
Yeah were far superior and it's worrying that the game was so one sided. They dominated from start to finish and for me yesterday showed just how many of our players aren't good enough. Holt is a decent player however he is too lightweight and was easily brushed off the ball, Halliday tried but Brown controlled the midfield, Dodoo didn't look as though he fancied it when he was brought on and I didn't see the point of bringing on Garner or Waghorn when we were creating nothing. At least O Halloran has pace and could have ran at them. Feel Warburton played right into their hands yesterday and as a result Gordon had nothing to do.
24 Oct 2016 05:33:58
Unbelievable some of the stick mw getting as i for one who was at the 5-1 game and yesterday and I'm sure it was an improvement from last time out. hodson at rb pushing tav up 1 proved right for me . yes we were hanging on at times at 0-0 anything can happen and I don't expect us to be beating them 2-0 or 3-0 or even 5-1? The game at 87 mins could have easily gone our way but unfortunately didn't . If Dave King gives mw at least couple of million to spend WISELY then I do think it would give us that 3 quality players we are needing I think warbs is doing a god job and some of the best football I've seen at ibrox in many years . . Still confident we can beat them come Hogmanay . Really irritates me when i see fellow fans giving the manager stick. I hate to say it but Celtic are and were the better team todayand unless we can spend a few quid then we'll just have to keep digging in. NS.
24 Oct 2016 08:18:51
Are you still so deluded that you think there is any money for players . Rangers are skint and in debt.
24 Oct 2016 08:25:51
Yes darren, i agree with you and stated many times on here and again yesterday, that mark warburton is a good manager, but there's only so much you can do and achieve with the budget dave king has given him, as regards to getting close and challenging celtic. Just like i said dave king has to back our management team a bit more, just like he stated he would. Dave king has talked the talk too much now the time has most definitely come for him to walk the walk! I'm not asking for him to spend crazy money and go back to those days of spending money we don't have. But his budget outlay so far against to what he said it would be has a big discrepancy and is miles apart! If you look at his outlay in budget regarding spending on transfer fees its no where near the needed amount to expect warbs to challenge celtic on all fronts! He's not spent a great deal of his money, its all our season ticket money. King has undoubtedly still to convince me and many many rangers fans that he is the real deal and the man to take us forward to stop the complete dominance of celtic!
24 Oct 2016 08:49:27
Yesterday was like watching a Walter smith team.
24 Oct 2016 09:48:27
What a stupid stupid remark! Smith who won endless trophies?
Get a grip!
24 Oct 2016 20:56:06
Silliest post in a while that 1🤔🤔.
24 Oct 2016 21:17:35
2.5 mill on garner, moh and doddo.
3 mill approx per season on wages for Barton, niko, senderos and gardener.
Total outlay of approx 8.5 million over 2 seasons for the above players. mw has had cash to spend and he has made a complete mess of it. Would u trust him with more cash?
24 Oct 2016 22:20:28
While Warburton continues to persevere with McKay while other players, some of who cost as much if not more than Dembele did at Celtic, sit on the bench he deserves criticism. That said, I do wonder how many of the players signed were first choices?
At the end of the day it comes down to quality, there is a significant gap between us and Celtic that needs to be addressed if our Chairman and our Board of Directors genuinely wants to challenge for the title in the foreseeable future. King has made countless promises of serious funding but a bit like Murray he is full of bullshit! Either we see investment so we can bring in quality or we accept that we will not compete with Celtic unless there is a fundamental reversal in their fortunes.
24 Oct 2016 01:35:41
Anyone else think that there is a lack of attachment between the manager and the fans?
I am not feeling the connection as we had with Walter or big Alex. Rangers feel like a experiment for MW to test his football philosophy. Multiple interviews we will learn and move on. We are not learning the standard of players is never going to learn.
We paid bargain basements prices and got what we paid for.
Not all the managers fault DK need to step up and play with some real cash and tones of it.
24 Oct 2016 05:37:06
Totally agree with you 11if the best with DK he has to spend some money it's the only way we can even think about challenging them.
24 Oct 2016 01:17:17
Guys we will be having this same debate for the next two years till MW get p155ed off with a lack of cash to buy a decent squad.
We are miles off the team we need to be to compete with CFC.
I get the feeling that the fans are beginning to get fed up with MW style of play.
Some mental passages of play putting us under total unnecessary pressure. Its not working simple as that and very obvious to see.
Interesting to hear the comments of two seasoned managers SM and TB on the commentary team.
DK need a new revised financial plan/ share issue to raise 20million funds. 12 to 15 players at 15 to 20k per week + transfer fees
If we can't afford this we won't compete with CFC simple as that.
24 Oct 2016 01:21:05
What's all the cry about O'Halloran?! Don't rare him at all.
24 Oct 2016 03:15:13
Wingers need games Bobby he's not going to get any confidence fae getting 20 mins every 2nd week give him 3 or 4 full 90 mins then we can judge him boys not had a proper chance yet.
24 Oct 2016 08:45:03
What's all the cry about moh you say Bobbybeag! The cry is we'll never bloody know until warbs gives the guy a fair crack of the whip and gives him a wee run of at least 5 or 6 games. I like warbs but i totally think he's being very unfair with moh especially when barrie mckay is playing as poorly as he has done all season. This is coming from a supporter who's a big fan of mckay!