Rangers Banter Archive October 24 2014

 

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24 Oct 2014 18:27:04
Interesting developments fellow fans, but don't let the heart rule the head. I am now of an age that I can sit back and reflect, and not jump in.
My take, for what it's worth? Simple, Ed001 hit it on the head on the 22nd. Oct. by using one term regarding the King offer----- ludicrous. Any financially astute person can see it does not hold water. Look at what he is asking for and you will see it as a joke.
Time to have open mind on the alternatives and accept our situation.
The Kennedy/ Ashley alliance would not be too bad, with Mr Letham involved, on the fans behalf sounds good to me.

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Voldermort pops up with pr spin. the majority want king (a CONVICTED TAX evader)but hey ho he's got cash wrong!!!!! Surely somewhere there is an honest buissnessm without a dark dodgy past, or is it we accept leaches spivs etc??3years&the money pit is heading for financial meltdown. what will the SFA's take on Ashley if he calls the shots using a puppet board he controls, whilst owning Newcastle?it's the never ending story of deja vu groundhog day over&fookin over!!!!!!!!

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The first paper to break news on Kennedy, reckons it is an offer to stop Ashley controlling everything, not an alliance.

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Cuillin72, The alliance is just my thinking, not what is on the agenda. The most important fact is the offer was a joke and don't be deluded by King's rhetoric.

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25 Oct 2014 09:33:40
Why don't us fans just buy the rangers black and red shirt and scarf from now on. ditch home and away tops until our great club is back in safe hands.

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Billyb,

I am not deluded about anything. I don't believe that the puppet masters will accept anything that will spoil their wee money tree. It will lead to another admin, even then I would not hold out much hope of Rangers minded groups even having a sniff of getting control. Green is still in control, but who is pulling his strings from even higher up?

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25 Oct 2014 13:07:09
In my opinion, Admin2 is now inevitable. MA providing a loan is only a stop gap; it will be secured against property and the property will be his choice as he will control the board. Regardless what anyone thinks MA is not going to provide unlimited, interest-free loans unless, and until, the club is trimmed down to a self-sustaining level. Only then will it be allowed to grow.

With MA men in control of theboard, I think it is going to be an unhappy Christmas as they are proper businessmen. Players are going to go, prospects of promotion will diminish but the club will survive (assuming the fans keep on feeding it), as a shadow of its former self.

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Cuillin, I did not point the finger with my comment re delusion, I just feel that King is playing with the emotions of us, the fans. Have no doubts about it, he has been fighting an uphill battle to gain control, but his offer was poor.
He did not want to give the 'thieves' any cash and at the end of the day who could blame him.
Re us going forward, I now feel we must blow the final whistle and cut our personal losses.
Have no doubts, what was started after murray sold us out has only one ending and we are the losers.

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24 Oct 2014 17:53:22
this money business is dragging longer than Coronation Street has been running, and it has now got as boring as watching paint dry on the Erskine bridge whilst playing chess !!!
Can we just get back to talking football and wait for someone to save us, or for the big bang to happen. Individually we can do nothing, so what's the point in CONSTANT whinging ??

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24 Oct 2014 19:22:58
". wait for someone to save us"

Unfortunately wee bill, that is why we are in a mess. We sat back and let them destroy our club. From Murray onwards, it has been a disaster

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StEddy - i agree with your philosophy but we are running round in circles with no-one conducting the orchestra. the help needs to happen soon, and what about Ally, wanting to spend in January??? the guys a buffoon

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24 Oct 2014 16:54:17
Brian Kennedy now back on the scene with an offer to the board, this saga has more twist and turns than a F1 circuit. I honestly wish I would wake up one day and either find out this has all been a bad dream or someone has taken over who has the clubs interest at heart rather than trying to line their own pockets and rip off the fans in the process. We have been treated badly over the last few years when all we want to do is support our team. Due to work commitments I gave up my season ticket around 3 years ago which I had since I was 15 and even though I couldn't go I pledged to buy a season ticket if dave king and his consortium gained control. I for 1 will not be back until the easdales are gone along with Ashley, I won't purchase anything to do with rangers as no money seems to go back into the club but line other peoples pockets.

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24 Oct 2014 10:34:13
This attempted buy out/bail out whatever it may be, by King and his camp has got a touch of the old too little, too late all over it. We know King always said he won't pay anyone at Rangers a bean for any shares, he could have bought himself a 5 per cent stake at least, from elsewhere, he didn't have to buy direct from the club.
A personal shareholding of 5 per cent or more would have put him in a position of strength to push his proposals on.
My point is he's had plenty of time to do this, so why didn't he? Even Ashley bought outwith the club, why not King?

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If he had 5% of shares it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference in my opinion

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24 Oct 2014 11:18:04
Rossw01 why would it not?If that's the minimum amount you need to propose an EGM,I'd imagine it must put you in some position of strength? And I said 5 per cent at LEAST.

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So he gets his 5%. What difference does that make? Explain to me the benifit of having the 5%?

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24 Oct 2014 13:39:12
My whole point,just for you now,is he had plenty of time to buy 5,10 or even 20 percent. Now you tell me why even 5 wouldn't be of BENEFIT .

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Mate i'm not trying to argue with you i was only saying what difference would the 5% make in regards to his recent takeover attempt?

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24 Oct 2014 15:38:57
Just to put this to bed,mate,buying 5 per cent of shares would display his intentions to other shareholders he is trying to get on board,it would help in convincing undecided shareholders if he has put his hand in his pocket and had something to lose,say in a dilution.

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I think king was tied up with his tax case back in South Africa and was not allowed to move money until settled, I think this is why we have waited so long for him to show his hand, might be wrong.

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The Chartered Accountants can explain it best, other businessmen and fans of various professions, students, whatever, can only wonder the what ifs.

Don't even need to look at a balance sheet or business model or ad campaign, if the fans boycott, it's all over.

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24 Oct 2014 16:20:25
Last thing,if King needs the backing of 75 percent of shareholders,then 5 percent could turn out to be absolutely crucial in a close call.

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Ross - the 2 main differences if King already owned 5% of shares would be

1, he would be on the inside looking out, not the other way around

2, if he put ANY resolutions to the vote (board members for example)he would only need the backing of another 45. 1% of shareholders, remember fans hold approx. 10%, letham and others would also vote with King

JG

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24 Oct 2014 17:43:18
By the way rossW I don't mind opening the posts up for the day and putting my views out for people to say "I don't agree with that" when do you ever open it up? Never. Your just content sitting, sniping at other peoples posts,which is your porogative??? Prerogative even.

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24 Oct 2014 10:29:54
how is it that EVERYONE can see that mcleod and law are our two best midfielders and should be played there to form a partnership - except for mr mccoist - who thinks best to play them out of position - seriously - ally, you don't have much of a clue.

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I think black is playing better than law at the moment mate so I've got to disagree with you

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Apart from scoring a few goals, Law has been woeful for quite some time. If you watch him off the ball he's always running about marking nobody. Then when a pass gets made he gets caught ball watching and is at least 15 feet away from the opposition player. I'm not a massive black fan either but i would pair him with McLeod in the middle.

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