Rangers Banter Archive November 24 2014

24 Nov 2014 16:16:16
Dear ed and all fellow bears&bearettes. Although I've only just recently started posting on this site, I have been reading everyone's posts for quite a few months now and what makes me proud to be a ranger is the passion shown by all my fellow rangers fans, I know that these last few years have been a nightmare for everyone and I'm sure there is still a long way to go to get back to any kind of normallity, but I honestly believe we will get there, because we are Rangers, there is not another set of fans in the world who are as passionate and as proud as their club than what we are. I have followed Rangers all over the world for nearly 50 years, although I am not one bit happy with the all that's going on at the moment, I will never turn my back on Rangers because I love them so much, That's what we've got to make outsiders understand. We have all laughed with Rangers and we have all cried with Rangers, but we are all still here, because Rangers are in our blood, that's what makes me proud to be a Ranger. Fellow bears what makes you proud to be a Ranger

Royalblue, I love your passion and I think you summed up our general feeling for our club. Sometimes we are too loyal, if that is possible, but that vulnerability is what has left us wide open to the parasites. I believe, in hindsight, to a certain extent, that our downfall began with murray. Yes we had good times, but at what cost?
I really hope your optimism is warranted, but I have a massive doubt that we can escape the clutches of the parasites. [ only term I think suits them. ]
On this site we may not always agree, but I have no doubt that Rangers are in our blood.

Billyb. you are right mate they are parasite's, and it breaks my heart, but we've been they're long before them and we will still be they're long after they have gone, one day we will get our club back mate and it will be down to loyal true fans like yourself and the thousands of other bears who care to much for this great club to leave it in the hands of chancers. WATP

It's one thing to preach blind loyalty but why should we as fans have to put up with the rubbish on the park? The team are awful, the tactics are as negative as I have ever witnessed and some of the players can't even do the basics yet are highly paid. The manager is inept and he more than anyone else is the reason so many Gers fans are staying away. We have been found out against a decent but not great Hearts side and have lost all 3 big games in the league this season.

24 Nov 2014 11:30:31
Ally McCoist is a self deluded arrogant little man who is slowly but surely destroying his legendary status at Ibrox by not admitting he just doesn't cut it as a manager, not only is he tactically naive, he's arrogant enough to blame the players for saturdays defeat. the very same players who Ally has taken to the club given lucrative contracts to, half decent players before they came (but somehow Allys superb coaching skills have made them mediocre at the best) reality check Ally its your fault these players are at ibrox in the first place.

why don't you do the decent thing like Stuart Mcoll done resign at least he new he could do no more with Motherwell but then again you have at least 800 000 reasons not to walk don't you? there comes a time in your life Ally when you have to ask yourself home much money is enough money and I think you have enough money.

Put him on his 1yr notice right now. If we'd done it a year ago, we'd be shot of him now.

@1 It doesn't work like that pal, every day his yearly contract starts again.
If we want to sack him he gets a years salary, all part of Greens plan to spend as much money as soon as possible.

That can't be right gkk, a perpetual contract like that would be unenforceable under UK law, it makes him unsackable. A rolling contract just means that the end date of the current term moves with every day. The termination clause is different.

The terms of his contract will more likely be that he has a 1yr notice period for termination or the year's money owed if he goes earlier.

So, since we can't afford to pay him for sitting about with his arms folded. put him on his 1yr notice, and at least every week when he's sitting about with his arms folded, we'll be 1 week closer to scraping him off.

Expat: I done a bit of reading about this last night, I don't know exact details of his deal, but from what I read seems if we give him a years notice it is the same as asking him to leave now, and he is still entitled to his years money.
I said Green gave him the contract, think it was D+P my mistake.

I'm getting auld, had to look it up.
McCoist is on same deal Bain gave him in 2011.

You're right, either way we have to pay him, but if you go down the 1yr notice, you don't have to pay him all in a lump sum - just the regular instalments he's getting anyway as his remuneration

The difference would be. give him notice, he has to work out his year, so at least we get something for the money.

As someone else pointed out, he might feel so affronted by that (and the "Pieman Walk Away" banners he'd agree to do a deal to go early.

Lochaberbear. can't disagree with anything you've said. only problem I've got with your post is its the same post from September, August, June, may, April, February. have I missed a month?💤💤💤

@6 : Whatever way he has it mate, I wish they'd just chase him and take our chances at a tribunal in 2 years or so.
Who knows were we could be then?

24 Nov 2014 16:45:54
just shows you i'm consistent mate I don't chop and change at every result unlike some Ally showed his managerial and coaching skills before we got into all this 5hit we he let Lennon overturn a substantial lead and that's with a half decent team like naismith davis aluko etc I said then he wasnt up to it and I have seen nothing since to make me change my mind

Totally agree the writing was on the wall before admin. however after liquidation he had the chance to stamp his mark and begin a legacy where good young players would get a chance to prove that they were worthy of being at a club like Rangers. but oh naw he signs God knows how many duds and dumplings to preserve his status. what annoys me the most is he thinks he has done a good job. I would respect him more if he held his hands up and says I'm not up to the job. however he plods on milking the club for a wage which in my eyes is outrageous. I've even heard he has says he would resign as long as he gets his million quid. absolute parasite!

Don't forget mccoist is
Probably owed
A
Big sum of money, from the defered wage cut he took.

Bigcol: I could believe the last part easily, I agree with the rest also, but I could see him saying that if the rest of the got their pay off then I want mine. I am not calling him by any means (well not yet anyway lol) but I still think he'll chuck it if we lose 1 of next 2 games.

What million quid would that be bigcol? He doesn't make a million a year so where's that figure coming from? And who was your source? Did you make that up yourself fulla the booze?

The problem is macoist never actually took a pay cut he took defferment so if he was sacked he would need to be paid back all the defferment but if I was in charge I would take the chance and give him the bullet and tie him up in legal red tape for a while and then come to deall which is paid up in stages which is the norm today s I have said simples he must go

Ferguson I've heard that from a few reliable sources that they have asked him to resign. that figure comes from the deferment he took. remember it wasn't a renegioted contract it was a deferment. at the end of the day who friggin cares. he is holding my club to ransom because he knows they haven't got 800,000 to sack him. and to answer your question I have been known to take a wee tipple during the week but I am completely sober. 😘

24 Nov 2014 08:38:17
I know I will get mixed reactions but. I think we started really well on Saturday, pressed hearts well and controlled the first period of the game. Team looked good as well as our shape, wasn't until the sending off the game opened up and hearts started to pass the ball better creating gaps allowing then there goals, which is to be expected as we played 70 mins with 10 men, I have no doubt what so ever of we had kept 11 men on the park on Saturday we would have comfortably won the game!

I agree with that aswell. for me paterson was lucky to stay on the park himself. for me hearts looked average, but steve smith, even though it looked soft, why slide in, yes close him down but stay on your feet, especially in the area of the park. only decision I disagreed with mcoist was taking off mclead, it should have been black or law for me at that stage of the game!!

Boyblue:I can't stand the look of Ian Black in a Rangers shirt full stop, but MacLeods heart wasn't in it on Saturday
Not his type of game granted with the heavy tackles, but the boy was hiding most of the time he was on the park.

Yeah gkk, mcleod didn't have one of his better games, I agree, but looking for any goals at that stage of the game when he was taken off, I think I would still have put my money on mcleod before black and law!!

@2

Totally agree mate McLeod didn't fancy it on Saturday and it's clear that the boy isn't quite the superstar some people think he is. The boy has potential and has done well however this type of game is exactly what will happen week in week out in the top league and the boy clearly isn't ready for that standard yet