Rangers Banter Archive June 24 2012

24 Jun 2012 22:59:36
sorted, on hibs website
Following a meeting of its Board of Directors, Hibernian FC confirmed that the Club will vote against the transfer of the Rangers share in the SPL to a newco at the General Meeting of SPL clubs on 4 July 2012. This re-affirms the view of the Board that the sporting integrity of the SPL is of paramount importance.

1 more nail applied!

24 Jun 2012 22:44:34
Bit of good news Bears , Boydy's scored for the Portland Timbers tonight........Stevie

How is that good news

24 Jun 2012 21:22:38
What a cheek Naismith has got , thinks he was doing rangers a huge favour by taking 75% pay-cut. What about the 12 months he didn't kick a ball with the first knee injury and who paid him full wages and all medical bulls to get him fit.Then suffers 2nd knee injury and once again gers pick up the bill.
Short memory - calls himself a rangers fan and uses a technicality to get out. Why not cross over and agree to be sold at a reduced price to help the club. Good luck at Blackpool or everton reserves.
Re Whitaker, lad has played his heart out for us and always gives 100% , however never worth his improved deal at £20k per week - wish him all the best but sure we can get another right back for a tenth of that.

You're the one with a short memory.They were our players who you hailed as we all did.I for one don't blame them one wee bit.They need to look after themselves now.They did their best for us and it's not their fault for all this mess

How about a boycott of any club these 'traitors' go to? How dare they look out for themselves and turn their back on an unknown entity without knowing what league, if any, they'll play in next season?

The rangers fans will be so busy boycotting they wont have any time left for football

From hero to zero in weeks How fickle are the fans

Naismith was injured while playing for the club. Doesn't that mean that the club has a responsibility to him? His situation is no different to anyone else's.

Have to agree that Rangers don't need players at £20k/week and probably can't afford them now anyway. That's the irony. Green didn't want these players - he just wanted the transfer proceeds. Loyalty has nothing to do with it.

24 Jun 2012 20:55:12
I know going from oldco to newco a transfer of contract when i worked at safeway n it changed to morrisons it took 2 year for it to change & their was the option you didnt have to change as alot of people would of mist out on several benifits of their safeway contract.
To ask any kinda worker from top paid to the bottom paid to change someone will object you wouldent start barking them down.
The players did their part already no assurances fullfilled.
If you were getting laid off offered another job i dont even need to ask when do i start.
The players that go or stay have made choices for their family n their careers.
Try & be mature realize football a job for players they wouldent do anything you wouldent do in your job.
How many of yous that bitter about it would accept £25 for every hundred for next month.
Whats view on situation ed?.
Would you take a 75% cut transfer
or take a nice signing on fee lucrative wage packet on a various site?.

The terms and conditions have to be equal to... or better than... the existing contract.
They must also be assured for a minimum 12 month period. The only way a company can attempt to change T&C's is if they can prove that the current contract's will put them at risk financially.
All T&C's transfer with the exception of pensions.
P.O.B.

24 Jun 2012 19:51:17
Few players support the clubs like the fans do. most fans gave up playing sat pm footy to follow their teams or were not good enough. those that play... develop different loyalties...like to their families. some will show loyalty whether or not they were boyhood fans. others will move on. if they leave under a cloud their memories will be tarnished in the eyes of us the fans.
McGregor is the pick of the bunch and he will stay.
The rest are a sma;; chapter in our history.
De livio stayed with fiorentina and became a legend.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/rangers/2012/06/14/rangers-in-crisis-players-should-copy-fiorentina-s-angelo-di-livio-and-stay-to-fight-for-club-says-lorenzo-amoruso-86908-23895588/
those that see us through these dark days will become an indelible part of our history and will be forever welcome.
they will make their choices and i bear them no malice. however those that stay will be remembered for ever.

Desperate words. Is that you Ally?
Indelible part of our history? Is that the 2 week old history with the next 3 years in SFL?
Yeah thow away a career and money for that nonsense.

N omatter how much you all keep referring to Firoetina,like some ancient Shamanistic mantra, you wont be back. Sevco are not Fiorentina. Your old club is gone....live with it

True, this is completely different to Fiorentina. This is more like an agressive takeover in a business sense. The fans don't want Green there and are letting him know by not buying season tickets. Are Green and co going to put money in to cover the shortfall left by reduced season ticket money? Are they going to still be there at the start of the season or are they going to sell up? There is absolutely no clarity about how this is going to pan out. Would you transfer over when you have no idea what you are transfering over to?
Al

Mcgregor would not take a huge reduction in wages to stay with newco,anymore than newco would pay millions to keep him.its just pure economics.fringe players might hang about out of loyalty,to maybe get a bigger payday in a couple of years,but i wouldnt bet on newco offering that.i have to agree with players decisions to leave . they have to protect their livliehoods,lifestyle and international status.we are not in the days when £30 was more than you earned in a factory per week and wages didnt change for 10-15 year playing career.loyalty is a great thing.but first loyalty is to you and your own.harsh facts of modern life !! dd

24 Jun 2012 19:25:39
I worked for a company that went into administration and all the staff were told that if a buyer was found we could be tupe'd across or we could choose to leave. Green hasn't got a case - he should not be pursuing these players. They took the cuts which helped stave off proposed redundancies - let them go in peace. We need to build a new team to play in the lower divisions.
I still don't trust Green - I would be looking at getting a new team on the go, with Rangers people at the helm who we can trust and apply for the one sfl place that Green is applying for. Ground share for the first season and buy back the previous clubs assets from Green at the price he paid.

One problem, Green wants a profit. If you want Ibrox it will cost you dear.

You should have left a name mate.

great post. they done there bit by taking cuts in wages to help the behind the sence staff who still have to pay bills/houses etc

biggest & maybe next is just to sell greens assets to a housing company & either go smaller or just shut up shop & walk away with the money.

lenny

Sorry, my name is Billy.

I was a Rangers supporter until a couple of weeks ago, now I don't have at team to support. All the ex-Rangers fans need to realise that the players can leave if they wish, there should be no idiotic threats either.
I don't really fancy following Green's Newco, I'd prefer a new team entering the third division, if accepted, and working our way to a possible return one day to the spl. A team that other fans won't despise but respect.

Billy

24 Jun 2012 18:52:08
Hello all fellow Rangers supporters. I'm just finished reading almost all the posts on here today and I know a lot of you are struggling to keep the faith what with all the players apparently leaving and all the other fans in scotland having a right good dig at us by telling us that this Newco as they put it or Sevco whatever..The old Rangers company may have folded and may be under a new name but it will still be us that are there supporting them whether it be 3rd div or SPL so all I can say is I will support the Newco as this is Rangers as we will all realise when we eventually get this debacle all sorted...

Tam-Sir 1873 Will be buying a season ticket as long as theres a league to play in..shoulder to shoulder

24 Jun 2012 18:44:33
RANGERS Chief Executive Charles Green has insisted he will contest any attempt by players to walk away from Rangers for free.

Green reacted strongly today after both Steven Naismith and Steven Whiittaker held a press conference to annouce they were not transferring to the newco and would be walking away.


Green said: "It is a great pity that certain players have chosen this time to attempt to tear up their contracts and walk away from the Club.

"The Club is facing massive challenges in terms of its league status and the last thing the fans want to see is a dispute between the Club and players.

"However, it appears that is the route several players are choosing. I can assure those players and Clubs who may be interested in signing them that Rangers will seek damages for breach of contract and for inducement to break contracts.

"The SFA has been considering the issue and has issued a preliminary guidance note on registration issues. That note has made it clear that it is open to the Club to challenge the actions of the players. Our lawyers have written to the SFA today intimating that we do challenge the actions of the players and explaining why that is. They have also asked that the SFA confirm how it proposes to resolve the dispute between the players and Club.

"We have no wish to go to court on these matters but the players involved, their agents and clubs who may be pursuing these players should be in no doubt that we will do whatever it takes to protect the Club's interests.

"As Ally McCoist said yesterday the players should be honest about their intentions. When the players agreed to take wage cuts earlier this year they renegotiated their contracts to allow them to leave for reduced values. That was a sensible quid pro quo and meant that the Club would still get some transfer value for them should they leave.

"What is happening now is that the players want to leave for nothing, thereby denying the Club any transfer value at all. At the same time, players who are ready to breach their contracts want to secure handsome signing on fees for other clubs, while Rangers get nothing.

"I have heard criticism from one of the players today that I had not been in contact. That is surprising since his agent was in my office on Friday for a meeting with both me and the Manager.

"I have spoken to the Rangers staff now on a number of occasions and at staff meetings. No players were present at these meetings and they have all been on holiday.

"The players' actions are all the more breathtaking given that that virtually everyone else employed at the Club has got on with the job since the CVA was refused and a new company had to be formed. Of course, they had concerns but after asking all the relevant questions it was business as usual. That applies to the groundsmen, the tea ladies, the office staff and everyone else who make Rangers tick. Rangers is still Rangers and players, above all, should know that."

There by denying the club a transfer fee? Ffs thats rich considering all the clubs they denied a transfer fee!

This guy really is the pits , why the hell should the players do what he wants this guy said he had 30 mil investment surley thats enough for a new company to run !!!!! oh and not counting season tickets , the guys a joke no money just out for a quick profit , as always in football we never get told the truth behind the scenes do we just what they want us to here according to green everyone else is at it and hes getting picked on nahhh no wearin it

How much of the £5.5m paid by Green to old Rangers was allocated to players contracts?

24 Jun 2012 18:36:51
Who is walking away from newco i for one as a fan are walking away the club i once supported is dead gone burried it will never be the same no point supporting a company that setup up a company made the rangers football club and expect it to have the same amount of fan support what i say is f**k off

24 Jun 2012 17:25:32
Good Luck In Your Struggling time you know the majority of us Blues are hoping that you will jump straight back and be who use were and HOPE Naismith signs for us

toffee haz

24 Jun 2012 16:51:40
season tickets
we must buy... once clear that money will go to club. this money may well go to pay wages... that its what it does in every club.
to not buy is to do what naisy and co are doing.
support the club now in 12-13 like never before even if our youngsters are playing.
lets make us the best supported team in scotland in div 1 or div 3 . lets face it , it was hardly entertainment last year. i do not go to ibrox to be entertained... its a bonus if that happens... i go to support!
over the years ive been called a glory hunter and now friends ask what im going to do which i find astonishing.... i reply im a rangers supporter...what do you think im going to do...im going to support our team...
its part of many of our songs... weve sang the songs now we must walk the walk.
our history will remain in our hearts.. but the sectarianism...we must leave behind, and any bitterness to.
we'll support you evermore...
(caps button broken!)

Fantastic mate....i will be there aswell...

Tam-Sir 1873 Lets get on with it...

But who are you supporting? Rangers ,as we all knew them, will be defunct in a few weeks.......green jhedi

There's more than the caps button broken.

Jhedi, you've made it quite clear you think the Gers are dead. It's also clear that to a great many fans (the OP and me included) the Gers live on. Now i can understand you getting a wee thrill out of repeating your Gers-dead mantra over and over but I need to point out that (A) you are well boring and (B) you don't believe it yourself otherwise why would you be here?

As long as your here to hate us, we will endure.

:)

@4) nice one bet that got him grinding his teeth lol. i just hate all this sporting integrity crap just be honest celtic fans know that without rangers they have a chance of moving out from our shadow dominating a weak and pethetic league for years to come...mark.

4: i just find it a worry so many people are blinded by some misplaced loyalty to a defunct club.It is truly sad.........green jhedi

24 Jun 2012 16:35:39
Good riddance to Whittaker, you won't be missed. As for Naismith, you will always be remembered by true Rangers fans for jumping ship and showing no loyalty at a time when nothing has been decided. What goes around comes around

What has not been decided? As Naismith said,rangers are no more and he does not want to play for newco...........green jhedi

These are professional players FFS. If their employer can't behave professionally of course they want out. Don't blame the players for the mess.

There is no rangers thats why there gone. if yous dont start to accept this as a fact yous could end up mentally ill.

Taking a 75% pay cut is being loyal. Can you blame the boy for leaving

What's this nonsense about loyalty.
Naismith was raised by Killie and sold on to Rangers. Rangers could not afford to pay him and neither,I suspect can Sevco 5088 so time to move again.
This is football.

24 Jun 2012 16:13:02
We don't do walking away don't you ever forget that timmy! Well other than Aluko, Naismith, McCabe, Davis, Whittaker, Bocanegra, Lafferty and probs a few others! WATP

Hope this raises a wee smile or two...
heard this today....
It has just been reported that the statue of John Greig outside ibrox has just Walked Away! lol Timalloy

HMS Newco has clearly run aground and is sinking fast - hence the understandable reluctance of of anyone willing to crew her.

24 Jun 2012 16:08:31
I have say I find the players who want to leave are a disgrace.fair enough I think the whole situation should have been handled better from green but until we find out our fate I think its shocking.naismith has given us about 6months of football since joining and whittaker had one good season.young mccabe is a good prospect but will be lost down south.aluko will be found out against better defenders.let's remind him he had to pay his own fee to join so the there wasn't a host of clubs wanting to sign him then.?whittaker I'm not too bothered about but would have preferred a transfer fee for naismith and saw the other 2 as a big part of our rise from wherever we end up.

The guys are no different to you and I. They have to make a living. We don t know all the ins and outs of reasons why etc. See what transpires first. Would you accept it if it happened to you in your industry?

Yes a transfer fee would have been nice but you can blame the club for that. They would have to have been transfered before newco so the money would have gone to creditors anyway.

And remember D&P agreed to these walk-away contracts on behalf of the club. Can't expect a transfer fee if you can't pay the wages.

Thats it... Turn on the players now after all you have turned on everyone else! Blame blame blame? Why the f*** would anyone want to help or play for you lot? If anyones a disgrace its you!

24 Jun 2012 15:08:19
Ok so green has all the assets for the new co, Murray park and inbox. But what we all really wanted was the preservation of the old company. Could the supporters with the help of let's say someone in the media or a legend like Walter Smith not agree to approach hmrc and creditors with a view to all putting money in to save the old co from liquidation in the next 8 weeks. There must be plenty of players old and new supporters and rich benefactors who could put in £1000 each. The math is possible but we lack a real leader or support brave enough to make this happen. Yes bears I have also put plenty of money into rangers in the last 20 years but it breaks my heart to see our club taken to bits like this. I would be willing to contribute. Could this work, if it did we would have the old company and then could force the hand of green to transfer assets at a cost. Remember no support no club!

Only BDO(on behalf of HMRC etc) can unravel the sale if they can prove that the assets have been sold under valuation. Could then apply to court and sell on open market.

Liquidation would proceed though.

Surely if you save the oldco from liquidadation then the creditors bill of approx £60m then becomes payable...you will need lots of benefactors to let that happen ..so where were they all when you needed them most and why would they come out of the woodwork now to save a totally bankrupt club?? ..JohnnyG

If you keep your oldco rangers alive you will be liable for every bill left unpaid and the BTC.The money pit has got you,no one will throw money away for years...........green jhedi

I sometimes wonder if it isn't possible to start up Rangers from the remnants of oldco (by the Smith consortium?). It would seem strange to have two potential Rangers teams but everything is rather strange just now.

Feverishly insane cries in the night.

£1,000 ? That would be grand.

24 Jun 2012 14:35:30
Here is a list of recent rangers players bought off Scottish clubs:

Kenny Miller, Duncan Ferguson, Neil Mccann, David Robertson, Steven Naismith, Ian Ferguson, Kris Boyd, Iain Murray, Steven Whittaker, KirkBroadfoot, Kevin Thomson etc etc!!

Probably a good 15 million quid pumped into other Scottish clubs to keep them going the last 20 years or so. Ok we have been mis managed by Murray & Whyte and should get demoted one division but to have us hung drawn and quartered by all these goody two shoes spl chairmen they should think long and hard about what they are about to do, we have kept their clubs afloat.

Get a grip, if rangers hadn't bought those players they would have been sold else where.

And many of them bought with money that the club seemingly didn't actually have.

Check the price you paid for them>>>> not the money you sold them on for!!!
you never did pay top dollar for scottish players

In reply to fan stating that rangers have kept other clubs afloat by buying their players, he forgot to mention Lee Wallace, oops sorry forgot, they could not pay the full fee!!

Players would have found there feed with other teams. You ruined the economy by buying them and paying them on tax evasion and massive bank indebtedness.

Recent?

If they didn't go to Rangers they could have been sold elsewhere.

Mac.

I think you better wake up and smell coffee or the utter p#s* your talking
your obviously an armchair fan who doesn't even know what ibrox looks like

Most of them got taken for a pittance of what they were worth, Kris boyd 500,000? Davie Robertson 700,000? Neil McCann 1.5 millon? N novo 500,000?

Ridiculous post. Rangers were tapping up players to get them on the cheap like all buying clubs. Rangers benefited most from those deals.

24 Jun 2012 14:28:57
MR Green got to step up now does he have the money required to replace all these players that are leaving i would say no naismith wants to thank ally mccoist and walter smith well we dont want to hear it if he really wanted to thank mccoist he would stay and play or at least get us a transfer fee wee as rangers fans are expected to fork out for a season ticket even tho at this rate we wont have any players left

24 Jun 2012 14:03:28
I don't know what your problem is with clubs getting rangers players for free rangers have been stealing players from other clubs for years, I always remember rangers stealing Derek mcinnes from Morton for 200,000 and the guy was worth over one million, there are loads like this Kris boyd for 500,000? What comes around goes around.

Strange definition you have of stealing , when a fee is involved .

Really? If the players you mentioned were worth so much more, where were the other clubs that were presumably queueing up to buy them?

Typical

24 Jun 2012 14:00:28
Am a diehard ger but have to understand why these players are leaving they have left in the dark and mucked about just like us Charles green has told them nothing we don't no what league we will be in and to be frank green is in the papers saying there not leaving its sounds like nobody got a clue what is going on green is in this to asset strip and please don't give him the season ticket money to line the pockets of these crooks this is cw all over again :-(

24 Jun 2012 13:49:30
Where does this exodus of players leave us?

Are we allowed to replace them?

What of the transfer embargo?

Replace them with what? Technically you cant sign anyone yet as you are not affiliated with any league or governing body. Also, who would want to come and play for a club that could end up in Div 3?

Even without a transfer embargo there will be no money to buy players.

Mac.

There is no embargo! The Rangers football club not in adminstration so free to sign players....but not much point till we know where we will be playing! No players will sign without knowing the terms they are signing up for....well not unless they are true Rangers fans who would crawl over glass to play for our club! Truthfully...those are the sort of players I would rather have than the money grabbers that seem to infest the modern game these days!

24 Jun 2012 13:42:39
Well wee NAISY has decided not to join the 'Newco' so can you lot for once and for all please stop referring to yourselves as Rangers, you are nothing but SEVCO 5088!!
VEGIEBHOY

Rangers 1872, Sevco 5088 or THX 1038! I don't care...I'd rather any of them than Celtic 1888!

24 Jun 2012 13:19:33
Can anyone answer me this. The non old firm clubs want changes to the current voting structure because it's unfair, but wasn't it them that voted it in when the SPL was first setup and wasn't it them that voted for setanta which ended up in disaster so why would anyone put the future of scottish football in their hands? Your thoughts please.

Very few in the game including the guys in CEO roles at the SFA and SPL have the competence required to manage football in Scotland. No visionaries, no conflict resolution skills, ....

Almost all boardroom men in the game are not competent to be there or fit and proper. Also the salaries and benefits they take are way too high for the businesses they sit on.

24 Jun 2012 12:35:00
Naismith has left rangers. Press conference today, move to everton likely

24 Jun 2012 12:10:26
NEWCO ,

All of these players have had legal advice in the past 48 hours and are expected to leave , mcgregor , broadfoot , edu ,davis ,laugherty ,wallace , naismith ,whittaker ,bocanegra , alexander , ness ,perry , hutton , mccabe , hemmings ,! out of contract papac , healy , aluko ,kerkar , adams ,mithchell , dick , heggarty , Youth side plus mcculloch left ....AS {Ed039's Note - You know all these boys lawyers and they told you did they? What a load of crap, yes they will have had some sort of legal advice but all of them on their way? Away an beil yir heid)

Maybe Hearts will get their player back as they didn't get their money?

The OP is speculation.
But it's very accurate.
Most of those guys hate playing the diddly teams in Scotland never mind SFL div3. They're all walking including youths.

24 Jun 2012 11:37:49
Whether we want to admit it or not this isn't rangers anymore its a newco, in no way can we expect players like Davis, naismith and mcshagger to play in 3rd division these guys are in prime of their careers, I also keep reading these guys owe rangers, if rangers are found to be guilty of cheating these guys will lose the medals they have fought for over last 4 years, so what exactly do these guys owe rangers? They have wasted years of their careers for a cheating plc.

24 Jun 2012 08:07:22
don't know if this idea has been proposed yet?...
the espee-el and sfl should merge and make it a 16 team premier league including rangers and to satisfy the masses rangers could have a -30 point deduction for the first 3 seasons,
sounds like an ideal solution to me

ian

Nah dun think so. Rankers ain't gonna get in the espee el fur years. So it's in their new record as such.

Div3.
The div1 teams won't sacrifice sporting integrity for restructuring bribes they're gonna get anyway.

Then what happens if the newco get relagated?

24 Jun 2012 07:15:41
Celtic will vote yes just because the majority will vote no. Celtic fans don't want us in the spl. The majority of the fans don't want us in the spl! That is fair enough! Celtic will only vote yes because they want to be seen as trying to help rangers! They love good press! They all slag off every single media outlet ie daily papers, sky sports etc but always want to be in them! Example: pl saying Celtic were leading the way by having electronic advertising boards lol!!!! As soon as something is reported that they don't like ie pro ira chanting they all get the big chip on their shoulder again! I know we have fu***d up big time but at least us the true blue fans know it and don't act as if butter wouldn't melt unlike some people we know! Still the best team in the world! Catch us if u can! Bladssy

Yous are not the best team in the world rangers are dead .Henke7

Celtic dont deserve bad press, they havnt cheated for the last 12 years, rangers are an embarrassing club bringing Scottish football down, we have another crook at the helm, administration in a year again.

What a totally stupid ranting piece of nonsense.Why would Celtic want to be seen as helping newco? I think you might find it is your club that have caused all this trouble for yourselves.Advertising boards! Dear me,have a lie down..........green jhedi

24 Jun 2012 03:13:26
just wanted to write my sympathies, i'm shocked by it all. I was born in ayr but grew up all over the place one of them being Dunfermline. first game I ever saw was against rangers in jim leishmans time. Mo johnston was in the line up. I was excited cause raNgers was a massive club. great memory for me. I ended up being a man u fan following ferguson into trafford but I alwaYs kept an eye on the gers

what grinds me the most is that the people who feel the punishment the most are not the cause of it. The people who put the money in faithfully and attend loyally are the people who are suffering. the people who make the mistakes can walk away while the supporters carry the can.

something isnt right there. really really isnt. the rest of the leauge is out for blood. but whose blood is it? the fans.

A football club cannot be a business alone. if a business goes under it should be asset stripped. if they didnt pay what they should of then fair fair. but if a chain of shops go under the shoppers just go elsewhere. fans uniquely cannot. and it should be recognized in the punishment. if only the fans could go to the court and argue this. the club will always be owned by the fans the "legal owners" just custodians.

im far from the kind of mind to suggest what changes be made or to structure the complaint but to keep it simple you punish who needs to be punished and not those who had no hand in it. the fans should not be punished to. and that is certainly what is happening here.

anyways my empathy and goodluck returning. at least youll have your heads held high.

..constantine..

24 Jun 2012 02:09:15
well looks like div3 next season maybe div1 ..all these clubs wants us punished i think it goes further what ive been reading they want us obliterated and they will probally survive without us but the revenue will go down as will the standard of the league will end up like irish league..i think a few others will go the same way us in future so go ahead vote us out see div 1 clubs are at as well so keep their morals scottish football will be on slow death if they get rid of us .theirs only 2 big supported teams in scotland us and celik others are also rans dont have enough support too sustain revenue

23 Jun 2012 23:18:11
monies due to old co for players sales Jellavi and co are destined for the oldco surely can anyone confirm this please.
If not could it not be used to pay football debts which are not going to disapear and will be a condition of future participation any any football operations operated under FIFA fact

23 Jun 2012 22:57:34
A solution to suit all other parties may be to demote the newco to the first division for 3 years without being able to be promoted.
This allows
1 a fairer playing field for lower division sideswhich would lack any sense of reality with a Rangers side
2 The existing first division to operate
where they wont be intiminated by lack of opportunity and a chance for some extra income at that level
3 Rangers fans to see a new team play at a decent level and their younger players to develop naturally

This would be dependent on Rangers newco paying all football debt.

Any newco must go to div3
no exceptions
din22

Oldco records need stripped to set the crooked record straight.
I still think third div is the right thing to do. Otherwise it's cheating div2 and div3 teams if rangers go directly to div1.

Ha why would wee pay oldco debt ?? u ave just came up with the worst idea ever an we are going in at 1st div an will be back in spl in 1 season

Rangers newco, doesn't have any football debt!

bil72

Fifa will insist all football debt is cleared as a condition of playing in any competion within their jurisdiction .... no exception