Rangers Banter Archive July 24 2012

 

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24 Jul 2012 21:47:15
any ideas on what the line up will bo supposing we do get our papers in order in time for the cup game ?

i was thinking ............

Alexander
perry mcculloch broadfoot wallace
kerkar black hutton bedoya/mitchell
little healy

bare in my mind i aint sure if certain players are gonna be available for the game, ie american guys and big earners.

feel free to let me know what you all think {Ed039's Note - Kerkar won't be there that's for sure, if edu, boca and goian are accepting a wage and are not transferred then they should also be available)

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What happened to kerkar ?

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Alexander
Broadfoot Goian Bocanegra Wallace
Bedoya Edu Hutton Black
Little McCulloch

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Why? whats wrong with kerkar?(except for the fact he's garbage). healy certainly won't be there as he is out of contract and as far as im aware has not been offered another one.

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Has Healy not left? Black couldn't take part in full training because he is still not fully recovered from a hernia operation. Possible team;
Alexander
Broadfoot Goian Perry Bocanegra
Bedoya Edu Hutton Wallace
McCulloch Little/Beattie

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No line up whatsoever, no liscence and trying to get dual contract covered up is unreal. time for no more shame on scottish football. take all punishments or this newco will never hold there heads high again.

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Kerkar is at charlton

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Team i would like to see ,lets face it americans and goian will be gone soon.

alexander
cole perry hegarty wallace
mitchell jig(cap) hutton bedoya
little beattie

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24 Jul 2012 21:28:53
I understand the majority of our season ticket holders are refusing to renew,because of the lack of trust towards C.Green.The best way to support our club then would be to purchase a ticket on a game to game basis, thereby still backing the club financially without over committing.

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Failing to renew will send us straight back in to administration, newco is a new company not a try and see, if this goes bust again.....think of the sanctions then. we cant blame anyone else if the cause we walked away

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I think you'll find it has bugger all to do with Mr Green. Not being in a league may be the stumbling block. It is with me at least.

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You clearly don't understand then. Season tickets have not been on sale for a long time now and will not be sold until we have an SFA licence.

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Personally I'm not sure of Green, but if we dont unite and support our team, we will not have a team to support. If we want to help with the survival of our great club then I urge all fans to get behind our club and buy season tickets. I will be renewing 2 season tickets because we support the team and not the money men. Once a ranger always a ranger

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2.)
Agree - anyone i've spoken to is the same (me included) -give us the licence & the moneys in the bank waiting a home for me & the missus

bil72

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So pay up to not support the money men... What...

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24 Jul 2012 20:53:48
Eds, EBTs weren't just match fixing, they were competition fixing. No one can deny that.

Failure to correct the records for SPL , Scottish cup and league cup by stripping The old rangers club leaves the integrity of the records tainted and dirty.

I cannot believe how lenient the SFA is consistently on Rangers. Beggars belief. A made up soft lenient penalty of 12 month signing ban when it should have been suspension. And then to defer it to help out Rangers until 1st September is totally criminal! {Ed039's Note - How is it match fixing, do you even know the definition of match fixing)

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Tell you what is criminal is this post , jeez oh , you missed your vocation you should have been a Samaritan with that way of thinking . (NOT ! )

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I don't always agree with Ed's comments, but he is 100% correct, match fixing means that a team, officials or players collude to arrange a match score, so are you saying that the EBT'S were paid to allow others to win? Now I understand, the Rangers shy that Roy Aitken took in the Scottish Cup Final that allowed Joe Miller to score was caused by an Ebt. I could never understand why until now.

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Any chance you can post a name when you spout your nonsense?

Ebt's were legal at the time and Rangers were trying to play the system by using them just as many other companies were doing. Then after around 10 years HMRC decide that they 'may not' be legal so decided to challenge it. The outcome of the investigation still has not been released but for anyone to say it was match fixing is deluded.

The Pilot!

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We said Ed. It has always been 11 v 11 over this period. I can also assure the previous post that myself and all my other fellow Gers will not be FIXING, CONTESTING or DENYING that you have won the rumours "Moron of the year 2012" Well done!!!

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What a half-wit! The voice of the gers hater! No punishment would be good enough for some! Stripping titles is an extremely rare occurrence. You are really talking about proved match fixing to justify that sort of sanction. E.g. Juventus (they still contest the two titles were wrongly stripped). RANGERS NEVER FIXED ANY MATCH. Stripping titles is over the score. Try to set your obvious Rangers hatred aside for a short moment to think objectively. Ed, stop posting complete rubbish mate.

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Winning matches by fielding foreign superstars you cannot afford by avoiding social taxes is a form of fixing the game to your club's benefit. There are many ways to fix a match or competition. Illegally fielding superior players, under hidden dual contracts and paid tax free is one of them.
That's why when you're caught they award each game a 3-0 to the opposition. It's fixing the match.
It might not be bribing a ref with contracts for his company, it might not be paying off a goalie or striker, but it's still match fixing. {Ed039's Note - Its not match fixing, try and find the definition, I am not denying wrong doing for gods sake, but what RFC done and match fixing is 2 totally different crimes)

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24 Jul 2012 20:35:57
I am sick and tired of all this, I just want a team to support, SO SORT IT OUT SPL,SFA ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!

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Surely you mean SORT IT OUT SPL,SFA,RANGERS NEWCO AND RANGERS OLDCO ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

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24 Jul 2012 20:23:09
Alrite guys? All agreed that greens in it for the dough! At least he's admitted as much. Over the past few months people have been moaning something stupid. Give the guy a chance ffs. Ur like a woman who's man cheated on her and now never trusts anyone. I for one will be buying a season ticket and I know many othere who will. I dont care who owns the club or what division we play in. I will always be rangers. As for ex rangers players/managers recent comments I can't see how these will help our club, only their own interests. (perhaps they've seen how much greens going to make and want theirs and hiding behind football 'reasons')

C-bear85

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24 Jul 2012 19:21:40
OK Ive just watched the news on ITV
Charles Green says I've had a meeting today with SFA we should have our licence within 24 hrs Then STV say However the SFA say there was no meeting arranged today at all What the hell is going on??????

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Sevco will not be playing any football this season

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I am not a Rangers supporter but all these contradicting statements do not help give the supporters reassurance that there is a plan to move forward as a team. I cant blame people not committing their hard earned money to all of this uncertainty. This does not mean they do not have passion for their club but since February they have heard so many lies they do not want to throw their cash away. It's time for ALL parties (SFA/SPL/SFL included to come clean and show open and honest dialogue instead of continually having discussions behind closed doors and creating more confusion. Everyone knows Green is a businessman. So was wee Fergus McCann but he laid out a game plan of 5 years when he took over at Celtic. He stuck to his word and was open about what he was doing. Why can't Green be the same?

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More non truths from Green, no games to be played this year then!

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.....no they won't, but RFC will. Get over it.

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24 Jul 2012 19:11:49
anyone else fed up listening to the other clubs saying it will be a better league, instead of fighting for third place they can all fight for second place.
They need improve the quality before it becomes a better league, and that wont happen.
Looking forward to watching the team without all the spl rubbish

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You are looking forward to watching "you team " play village football? Come September you will be dreading it.

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Yes were are ,then we will be called pride of the village ,you know what they say about a change ,might freshen us up ,fight harder ,and come back even better than what we were and put the rest of the starched collared fuddy duddys of the spl in their place once and for all doug t.s.o

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Behave. Its very easy to have a kick at people when they are down but let's be honest about the affect this debacle has on the whole of Scottish Football.The rest of the world is not just laughing at Rangers they are laughing at Scottish football as a whole. Rangers, in general admit they created a mess. But the SFA/SPL/SFA all have a hand in it. CW broke the law by not paying the revenue the funds he had already collected form the business and should go down for that. EBTS's were declared in Rangers annual statements so they were transparent. This means SAF/SPLA accepted them every year (Rangers have a strong case IMO). The fact that they went into admin then filed bankruptcy cause the points and relegation. So look at the facts through clear glass and not colour tinted ones.

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4.) Do you really think the world is watching? I very much doubt most of the world cares

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24 Jul 2012 19:07:30
Heard a rumor that refunds may be available if the new top is not the same as the one that went on sale, I know before anyone says that tennents are oldco sponsor but just what's been mentioned.

Ps. I'm happy to keep it even if such a thing was on the cards

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24 Jul 2012 17:08:25
do third div players have squad numbers or its it back to 1-11 .... mr myle {Ed039's Note - No)

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24 Jul 2012 16:20:58
There are rumours if the SPL start over the TV money then the SFL & SFA are happy to
tell them to get stuffed & the 30 SFL clubs will break away and start their own league & because the SFA is
behind them all european places will go to them & that would leave the SPL in limbo.

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They better act soon, because the only Scots in Europe, will be holiday makers

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Ha ha...we can only wish that were true
VHSS

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24 Jul 2012 16:06:20
Iv just been informed by my mate from work whos in the green bridgade that theyre goin to the Brechin game, in there end, his ticket came today {Ed039's Note - oh well)

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No real surprise Celtic fans are more interested than rangers than Celtic at the moment, SPL will be better without rangers?

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Nae wonder with the results they are having ,tic supporters will miss seeing a good team doug t.s.o

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Aye very good...i hope the green brigade are at Brechin, however..i dont think even 'they' are that stupid.

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@2: Not exactly wise when your team currently won't be playing any football whatsoever.

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Oh well just goes to show how sad these people really are spend more time worrying about us than about there own team .PS go ask your m8 what his reason for going to the game is oh wait there dont bother already know the reason to spew his hate honestly some people need to get a grip on reality.

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I knew they were completed obssesed with us but now they are even starting going to our games

JG

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24 Jul 2012 14:50:48
Has anyone got any idea when the away strips comming out and if we're even getting a 3rd kit?

The 3rd kit is on the JD website for some reason, you can pre-order it, it was meant to be coming out on thursday but there is nothing about it on the website, still havent seen the away kit, the 3rd one is pretty similar to the 3rd kit we had a couple of years ago

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24 Jul 2012 14:46:41
sfa membership next 24 hours says green

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from twitter, Stewart Regan has no scheduled meeting with Green today

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Call me a cynic, time will tell.

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An astute man would keep his powder dry.

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Here's hoping but how many deadlines have we had that have come and gone with nothing resolved.

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This new club The Rangers should never get an SFA license without 3 years accounts in the lower leagues.
The old club should have been stripped of its license for the crimes.
I cannot believe the SFA punishment was only the illegal 12 month signing ban, fking delayed to 1st Sept!! Weak.
Plus the disgraced old club allowed to pass across a license when it should have been stripped of it for not delivering 2 years accounts.
SFA punishments to Rangers are a joke. {Ed039's Note - give it a rest, a company that HAS 4 years accounts MUST produce them but a newco can apply the same as anyone else)

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Poster 5 ,i think youve got enough punishment on your own hands watching your team getting humped home and away ,you should be more concerned what your manger N,L isnt doing right doug t.s.o

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24 Jul 2012 13:49:40
SFA membership to be concluded next 24 hours as there is now no oustanding agenda items-source Rangers Web. {Ed039's Note - No issues with SFA and SFL, some still to be ironed out with SPL)

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So stripping titles is now only a minor issue?
We have no issues with the football league and just some minor points to resolve with the SPL and I’m hopeful we can to that today.”
Makes Ally's statement below a possible resignation speech:
"I can also assure every Rangers fan I will not be accepting any talk of stripping the club of titles. That is something we will never accept and everyone at the club shares this view.
So if everyone at the club shares this view? Mr Green will be telling us later all titles of Rangers FC will remain intact , if not then who been lying? Ally or others at the club? If he has sold titles down the river then Ally will be off ! and probably most decent Rangers fans with him.

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What issues are still outstanding?

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It's the SPL ones that we have been stuck on since last week, no change there then!

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Why should there be any issues or dialogue with the spl ? they binned us. now they are panicking. tell them to eff off. they made there bed so they can lie on it. sausage bear

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Sausage bear... I suppose the SPL clubs will have to blame their own supporters for that. A raise in ticket prices for all of them....lol
VHSS

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24 Jul 2012 11:04:47
Hi Ed, any news on the so-called friendly with Olympiacos that we are meant to be playing in? Have the dates been announced? Ticket prices?

The Bear Down Under. {Ed039's Note - Nothing, the licence talks will be taking precedence I guess mate)

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The most important one is the match against Brechin

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23 Jul 2012 21:34:43
Ed- whats the latest on the s.f.a licence being granted? as the saga now goes on with green and kennedy at loggerheads.
The fans want transparency. {Ed039's Note - Hopefuly signed within next 24 hrs according to CG)

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23 Jul 2012 18:29:07
Rangers resume talks-Ed have you heard anything from this meeting there seems to be a lack of info from all parties with the BK story which looks like a blackout story to cover bad news we are now getting to the andreax time when only the brave will be left standing.Lets hope our owners are among them for our sake and that of Scottish Football. {Ed039's Note - Hopefully signed within next 24 hrs according to CG)

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24 Jul 2012 14:16:20
Notice that sky sports have rectified
their leagues. SPL news has been
re-instated. Newco are in the Scottish
league section.

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Small minds are easily occupied

JG

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24 Jul 2012 14:11:26
I'm going to get a season ticket, ne'er had one before. Can you all tell me how much all of yours will cost and where u sit with the revised prices. Was thinkin bout gettin one for govan rear. Sat up there last season a couple of times {Ed039's Note - East Enclosure)

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I sit in the govan front, my ticket will now be approx £305.

GovanFR

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Just escaped from Carstairs?

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Poster 2 ,yes its quite hard to get out of carstairs ,easier over on alcatraz ,anywhere where are you hiding since you got out lol doug t.s.o

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24 Jul 2012 10:39:06
I am a Rangers fan and its been heart breaking for the last 5+ months.

I do believe punishment should be handed out but why drag it on for as long.

I think we should close the doors for good and turn Ibrox into a museum of history for Glasgow Rangers of old.

Fans can then come to remember the 140 years of success that will never be rivalled across the globe in terms of trophies won and domestic records. (111 in total)

In several years time Celtic will say they matched our success in less than 140 years of existence. They will continue from now to top up their tally of silverware but with what kind of challenge none what so ever.

Without Rangers, the SFA will need all the help they can to transform Scottish football, Murray park will be a good start.

We can offer this to them for £25m and use this money to pay other Scottish Clubs and any businesses we have upset.

If they cant afford this because of the soon to be lack of funding not to mention interest in Scottish Football, I know an all weather park nearby they can hire for about £30 / hour.

Fans can be charged to visit Ibrox Museum and give some of the £5.5m back spent by Charles Green. Not to mention he will still own an arena with incredible history worth in excess of £70m+.

The players that are left and the car park can be auctioned off and this money can go towards lump sum payoffs for the humble staff who have endured hell over the last few months.

HMRC can chase the 2 people who conducted this mess and get back what they can, bankrupt them for all I care.

To all these deluded fans in Scotland who believe they will survive without Rangers and in turn without the current level of sponsorship and TV advertising, all I can say is hang on tight as you have got your D Day to come.

No turning back now.

Every Gers fan from around the world can look back with pride and recall their memories, just like F1 fans do of Ayrton Senna and Racing fans do with Red Rum.

The true greats never go away, memories never die. Senna will always be remembered as the greatest driver who ever lived no matter what happens in the future. The reason is because it is impossible to compare something or someone who no longer exists or lives.

Glasgow Rangers will be exactly the same, they will be remembered as Scotlands greatest ever team no matter who does what

Bring on the new exciting SPL season.. YAWNYAWN.

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OMG! You have serious problems and i urge you to seek help.And soon.

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I started off thinking you had a point mate, then ended up thinking that you had done your nut...sorry pal, super strength tablets on their way by special courier.

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Kinell that buckie's good stuff ed

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Just read that o.p again , are the 111 trophies 54 leagues 33 scottish cups and 27 league cups. you are either a bad rangers supporter that should know it's 114 or very bad at arithmetic. and when you say celtic will win trophies without competition.. they will have more competition than rangers did ,when you were entering the scottish cup for 15 years before celtic were even founded. shamrock

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How about a working museum?

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Ok, I agree. It was maybe a bit of a silly rant but the whole thing has wore me down for so long that i am begging for an end to it all... We have been humiliated by two nuggets who should be taken to the cleaners by the authorities and the HMRC. We are proud of our history and always will be but anti - Rangers fans will always want to put the knife in and say that's all in the past now, it died with Glasgow Rangers. It is difficult to accept i know.....Hence the reason for the above war and piece rant..!....It was typed in frustration to an earlier argument with 2 of my pals who happen to be Celtic fans.....I am sure you all know that some days it's hard to stay positive.
No pills needed... dont worry. Just need this fiasco sorted so we can all move on. I will gladly donate my money to Rangers as I have done for the past 20+ years. Even if it is only a £10 entry fee to a Rangers Museum.... LOL....... WATP

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LMFAO. Reasonably well written but £25m for Murray Park!? £70m+ for Ibrox!? I was waiting for you to say the squad was worth £100m+. LOL

Seriously, is this a SALE ad written by Charles Green?

Having said that, the figures you are quoting is roughly what was in SDM's accounts. That should tell you how accurate they are.

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Poster 4 ,naw a wee diddy team called queens park were winning the scottish cup then doug t.s.o

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To poster 7, Look a little deeper and you will realise that the figures mentioned are not that un-realistic...... lets face it, the new Olympic 80,000 seat stadium cost £480+ million. Granted its state of the art and sited in London but if you want to compare closer to home, it cost £59M in 1999 to upgrade Hampden. this makes the estimation of Ibrox at £70M far too low. To compare Murray park, the FA have just built a new training complex and this cost around £30M. Murray park is a bit smaller and will have less modern day facilities etc but easily worth I would say £20m

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24 Jul 2012 09:59:29
This stalemate with the SFA for
membership will go right down to the
wire. Dont expect this to be resolved
before Friday at the latest.

Haggling over sanctions until the last
minute until one of the two sides
buckle and realise they have a game
to fulfil on Sun.

I've got a sneaky feeling this wont
get resolved before then & we will
withdraw from the Ramsden Cup
game and Brechin will get a bye.

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Wouldn't surprise me. Brechin may be entitled to compensation?

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24 Jul 2012 09:45:03
4.) @3 so it is about saving money and not our club.I would gladly have stuck with last seasons prices or is our club not worth it ?Every club with ambition needs season ticket sales so it can best plan for the future,our future is fone of fighting to get back to the top where we belong if that means £300 or £500 per seaon ticket then we should pay it if we want a club to succeed and prosper.

Re:I was thinking more justifying to my wife and kids actually mate yeah football and the gers are a massive part of my life but are in shadow compared to wife and kids but dont ever think its thro lack of wanting to see my team survive and progress .... if they lowered the prices to make more of a saving than over regular tickets then im guessing more would be sold offsetting the price difference .. the amount of negative posts is got for comparing the season tickets prices to indivdual games is a joke !

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@3 THE point I was making was we all went to Ibrox over the last few years paying alot more which had to be justified to many a wife.Now we are in trouble we need all the money we can get. The cut price deal must be of some saving to you and should make the argument with her indoors a short one lol.

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24 Jul 2012 01:05:51
if mr green was all above board then why does he hide away in safe houses any one who buys a business does not hide in a safe house this man is another wrong on lies all the time constent does that remind u off some one sound like whyte aload of talk and no action do not be surprised if there is no football played this season at ibrox

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He probably doesn't want demonstrations outside his house from any fans not happy with him.Makes sense really.As for his strategy,we need to hope it works and will be in the clubs interest,not his own.

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Agree. The most worrying aspect is the consequences of being found guilty of operating dual contracts-via EBT's.

We are now all aware of the SFA's disciplinary options. Bearing in mind this would be by far the most serious in the history of scottish football. At best, a years suspension?

I suspect this motivated McCoist's comments regarding stripping of titles. Not the emotional aspect.

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Maybe he's living with Whyte at his Speyside Castle. I wouldn't like to pay his B & B bill.

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Aye totally agree. This is the man who has told nothing but lies since taking over. Says he wants £50 million for the club then sells 10% of it for £1 million. Total conman!

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Maybe he hid in a safe house because morons were threatening him? The SFA had to call in the police after threats last week.

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24 Jul 2012 01:03:38
"sporting integrity" , the phrase of 2012. This saying has been used at every turn of this debacle. The SPL were particularly fond of spouting this phrase at anybody that would listen.

The SPL clubs backed into a corner because their own fans threatened not to buy season tickets, used this phrase as some sort of big stick to beat us with. This was the reason why we were not voted into SPL. By this time they had heard that Sky would stand by the tv deal if we were out for one year. So a way was mooted to parachute us to div one. That meant the SPL would still get paid by tv.

They then tried to blackmail the SFL to put us into div one with offers of tv money etc. however the SFL chose to agree with the decision made by SPL clubs and for "sporting integrity" reasons. The St.Mirren described their decision as catastrophic and suggested that their decision could result in clubs in SPL going bust. What a cheek, they pass the buck because of their own bigoted fans, and then crucify SFL teams for coming to the same decision as they did.

So now reality is sinking in, and Sky will pull the plug next year, however they and others want to show Rangers in div three. So now SPL clubs are demanding a slice of the tv money, why?

If we are not good enough to be in SPL then why is the money that Rangers fans provide good enough ?

They are just a bunch of greedy sods, scrapping about for any penny as they now know that they can't survive without us.

I would be surprised if many of SPL chairmen could spell sporting integrity, and fewer understand the definition.

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This is the best post iv seen on here in a while

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Will that be the same sky,that lawell and regan are in london for,too negotiate an8 year deal,hmmmmmmm,stevo

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The same goes for SPL managers who criticise and attack referees and cry that they have been cheated every time they happen to lose a game,

JG

JG

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I for one hope they get f*ck all. we are already paying back our football transfer debts so owe them nothing and should give them nothing!dont forget our money for finishing in second place was withheld how much do we owe scottish clubs? around the same amount as was finishing second...mark.

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Why would Lawell be in london negotiating a sky deal what role on the SFA or SPL boards does he officially hold we are aware that Regan needs permission from his pay masters before he can make any decision but to be escorted by them is beyond belief

lochaber bear {Ed039's Note - I would imagine Sky would tell them what they want and how much they want it for and he would report back to SFL and SFA with an offer)

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Sporting integrity my ass,Where's the sporting integrity when the Tic fans turn round and say if you support Rangers getting in The SPL we will boycott your grounds. Two Faced or what

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Here..Stevo

Your post has actually agreed with the very sensible original post, but you probably don't even realise.

You spend more time on here than the Gers die hards.

You're fascinated by the Gers, you can't stay away, you don't even know who septic have signed, because you're always here, we are in your heed..haaahaaaa magic.

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Yes stevo the same sky thats removed spl fixtures from there schedule page...mark.

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@2, if the deal is for the SPL, why the feck is Liewell and Regan in London speaking to Sky? Surely Regan should be having nothing to do with it and Doncaster should be negotiating on behalf of the SPL, not the Celtic rep or SFA rep, or do they work Doncaster from behind. {Ed039's Note - Regan is not at the Sky talks, it is Neil Doncaster and Peter Lawell)

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Op. garbage . mr lawell is talikng with sky right now about a deal that will run for 8 years. so even if you do get back to spl , you wil be playing to mr lawell and celtics tune . lol.

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I will say one thing stevo you do give everybody a laugh with the sh*t you come out with...mark.

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I stand corrected ED,its Doncaster& Lawell.....Beat yous with a big stick,no sky cash in a year.Utter Bollo*ks!'..@7...who are septic? are they the same as the gers.....As for Liewell???pmsl Our club has a good buisness model,more can be said about the defunct club operating like a casino.and as for the newco,time will tell,but all the lies seem to never end,why doesnt greene just be upfront to the fans????stevo

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Stevo sky are talking about a heavily reduced offer if anything at all. and whats this about playing to lawell and celtics tune? celtic will have no real say! never mind about sporting integrity your so fond of spouting all the time. and sfl are considering legal action if the 2 million isnt paid not looking good is it! your the one with your head in the sand...mark.

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I take it you cant read rite,as i posted nothing about dancing to lawells tune!celtic will be making plenty with there pre season friendlys,then a glamour tie v real madrid& a champs league qualifier,all before season begins..Is this newco heading for admin?lol as charles the snake will sink this new entity,or sell the lot!stevo

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Stevo you cant read i never said dancing...mark.

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The difference between "negotiating a deal (for in all probability a greatly reduced sum because the product will be vastly inferior minus Rangers) and "sky pulling the plug" seems lost on a lot of celtic fans for some reason.

Good points op. I sincerely hope we don't get all the: the Rangers situation caused this, when the sh!t starts to seriously hit the fan for a lot of them next season too. I won't be holding my breath. It was the spl teams' decision. They decided to listen to the vocal lynch mob. Rangers are the only ones who haven't had any say. The spl has made its bed.

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24 Jul 2012 00:43:29
I am sick fed up with the so called Rangers men that seem to be trying to stir the muck which is putting Green in a difficult situation.
What is the point of this latest story from Kennedy. So what if an offer is £5.6m. I will bid £5.7m. I have no chance of getting it so what is it all about. Kennedy has been quiet for a while and clearly needs another bit of publicity.

My friend drives a 911 worth about £50k. If I offer him £5k does that mean I am a serious bidder, no it does not, it is a waste of time. What are the chances of Green accepting £5.6m when he's turned down more already. This is exactly what Kennedy and Blue Knights did in the bid process. Simply didn't put enough.

My message to Kennedy who declared he would be the "last man standing". Green is that not you, so why not get lost, your interference is not wanted. You had the chance and didn't take it.

As for Brown, he has got nowhere and cannot get anywhere so it is time to forget these people and get behing those that did put their money up.

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Kennedy just loves his pics in the papers. Look at today's one in the sun- posed or what. Time waster who is doing damage

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Well mate Kennedy's valuation is bang on. It was just last week that Green was telling us about a chap from manchester who has aquired 10% of sevco for 1 million. So kennedys 5.6million for 51% of the business is about right (£500,000 for mark up). The problem is that whyte is still in the shadows, not willing to give up his majority shareholding.

Lets face it we still dont know the man/woman who owns the majority of Rangers,only their puppet Green. Most likely Whyte sold ibrox,mp,albion to himself through D&P to a obscure company fronted by Green.

I for one would much rather have Kennedy trying than the shady men who currently hold us.

Wise auld Bear

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Yeh he put his money up cause no one else was giving a fair anuf chance to bid for the assets it was rite there up for sale but only to green as we have a confidenail agreement with him

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Here Here,they talk the talk,but when it comes to putting serious money up,they all scuttle away,then spill their guts to the press,say what you like,but only one man has stood out in all this,No not Ally,but Mr Charles Green,give this guy a break,he has stuck at it,through all the crap the press have given him,and the SFA,I cant wait till he sorts those blazers out,I honestly believe ,Mr Green will pull us through and rebuild our club,he is not a quitter.So,lads and lasses,get behind him,and the team,let the rest rot in their own waste.

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Someone offers £30k for the 911 valued at £50k, while the other bits are only coming in around £5/6k.
The car salesman gives you exclusivity to complete the deal, cause he you have the biggest offer, he likes you, and your the only one guaranteeing to pay his full commission (no matter what).
Having given the car a once over you value the car at only £5k, and reduce your offer. As the car saleman is getting his full commission he is happy to play along.
Once the deal is complete the car is involved in a crash causing significant damage. The original other bidders for the car offer £6k+for the car in it's damaged state. But the new owner has another look at the car and realises it is really worth £50k when fixed up, and says he is not willing to sell for less.
As it is a classic 911 he thinks he can sell to an auto club where lots of members subscribe, each paying a small part of the £50k. But first he asks the auto club to use their membership fees to rebuild the damaged car.
Once the car is finished he then offers it for sale to the auto club for £50k, providing him with a £45k profit.
Brilliant scam, only because of the number of gullible people willing to play along!

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Maybe the SFA has told Green the company is underfunded? Kennedy's offer might ential a dissolution for existing shareholders, rather than cash in hand?

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Voldermort appears every know& then,tring to grab a headline here& there,where was he in the time of need like the rest off the bulls*itters?all sat back& watched rfc crumble,then when its too late& club being liquidated,try too get what they can for bargain basement offers,stevo

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Wise auld bear - your not too wise when it comes to business - Kennedy's numbers DONT add up - let make it simple - Mather bought a 10% share for £1m so we can assume the newco collective share investment is worth £10m -IF Kennedy invested an additional £5m that would make the collective share investment £15m, so in effect he would only gain 33% of shares - he would need to offer £10m plus to gain 51% - but less face it we dont know if he has any cash as he's managed to dish out even less that Craig Whyte

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24 Jul 2012 00:38:37
Fellow Bears

I'm convinced that there is one more 'major' twist still to come, the only thing is, i'm not sure if it's a good one or a bad one.
Am i just going aff ma heed with all the stuff that's went on, or does anyone think similar.?

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This stories goat mer twists thin chubby checker,efternin edo

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We are all the same mate we want this saga to end and get back to playing football

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I definately think there is more to come.why are rangers so determined to get the ebt investigations stopped,I think they,re sh***in them selves in case other names come out that have been paid,defo more twists in the tale yet

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24 Jul 2012 00:13:41
Think we can get in the brechin end at glebe park? Dont think we will its sold out.

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Nae chance getting in away ends every game be a sell out

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Hope every away match, bar one, is a sell out. Clyde voted us out of existence!

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23 Jul 2012 22:08:18
so kennedy says he bids for contolling stake in newco green says he or anyone from the newco havent spoke to him i no who i believe as green has lied ever since he got his foot in the door still he is not sorted this mess with sfa its complete joke green wee need action not talk u have done nuthing but strip our squad and get our assets on the cheap and kept talking i smell a set up hear i mite even phone up paper and tell them am putting bid in for newco tommorow knowing them they will probaly print this

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I think you should ask yourself another question, why does this guy kennedy continue to flash all his 'offers to buy the club' all over the newspapers and not conduct his business in the privacy of the boardroom, does he do all his other business through newspapers? dont think so

JG

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1) I agree. It's no different that his tie up with the BK. Just self promotion Imo
VHSS

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