Rangers Banter Archive February 24 2012

 

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24 Feb 2012 23:33:42
I cant believe craig whyte has the audacity to call himself a rangers supporter. No Rangers supporter in there right mind would have sold the Arsenal shares, there worth more than mony.
I remember my dad taking me into ibrox trophey room (about 30 years ago) and seeing a lot of plaques and sashes with Rangers ,Arsenal on them and my dad telling me the story about the two clubs, thats how i cant believe a trus supporter would do this. I really hope we never see that imposter inside ibrox again, for his aske and ours.
pennyboy

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He's actually a Motherwell Supporter. He used to have Motherwell season tickets.

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Sentimentality never paid the bills.
They were an asset.
He had every right to sell them ffs.

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Sentimentality does not pay the bills? But He's not paying the bills you complete nitwit.

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24 Feb 2012 23:27:46
Why don't they just sell Murray park its been a waste of time and money with no talent emerging since it opened 10 years ago. The money would help pay off some debt.

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Because you don't own it, you rent it from sir minty moonbeams

Ska bhoy

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Ska bhoy

You don't know who owns MP because you haven't seen our accounts since Whyte bought the club.

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24 Feb 2012 21:28:49
Some questions; Are Smith and Russell due redundancy money either now or at a later date? Are Burnley due a payment the next time lafferty plays? If,as has been suggested,Whytes lawyers are stonewalling the Administrators why cant legal action be taken? exactly how much money is owed in total at this moment? I am beginning to think these Administrators know more than they might be letting on,this is not right when fans are prepared to go into debt to help save rangers. Why dont they come out and answer these questions which i think are pertinent to the fans situation

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Please leave behind the bigot crap, move on. My partner has already posted on this site...I did not pledge, but gave her £100'. I am CFC through to my bone, always will be. In life the only constant you is your club.
Remember. It is all about football, no other rubbish.

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24 Feb 2012 20:49:18
It looks like most of the pledges have come from Celtic fans
So not got the money we thought we had ..spoke to a good few Celtic fans I know and they have all been pledging money for a laugh

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When you leave your personal details on saverangers.com they ask for an email. After filling the form out it says they will send an email and when you open the email you've got to click the confirm button to pledge money. So if people are doing it for a laugh can I just say that they have got their email address lmao. Who's laughing now lol.

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Thats sick,but should not stop the real fans pledging to help save your club.Best of luck with the campaign

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I know it a joke, even when we are trying to save our club they are putting the boot in. But I seen the number go up and down on the register Meter on the site so try must be deleting all the obvious Celtic pod takers.

J

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At this moment in time all this saverangers website is doing is testing the water to see how much support there would be from ordinary fans if it became necessary to raise money in that way. any celtic fans that make pledges for a "laugh" are only helping show that the support for this type of scheme would be huge. they are that stupid they couldnt work that out for themselves.

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And for people signing up with an email they can then just delete and block any further emails sent to that address or simply make up an email address so the laughing goes on and on and on

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So what if they have their e-mail address ,they arent doing anything illegal ,fab1

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Whos laughing noooo it disnae matter that they have there email address they dont need to pay it its a stupid idea from the start an the person that says its sick if it was the other way about gers fans would ave done the same


TB

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Oohhh. wow. the saverangers website have my dummy email account. super scared that a fat pie man might come and give my arse a good kicking for a false pledge. hardly legally binding is it? not that legal issues have ever mattered at the big house (soon to be a bungalow): hah. you are still so deluded. i will pledge more monopoly money and you can have another email address. fools and their money are easily parted.

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Who cares if they have your email? what are they gonna do?
i have about 20 emails that i use for crap on the net, and not one has any details of who i actually am

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The ones who are laughing are the ones who sent in a false email address...only a bit of banter,dont take it too serious.

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Aye and there dosent seem to be many fools partin with their money up the carparkheed goin with the s**t attendances yous get , tedbear

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I am a rangers shareholder, along with my sons. My partner is catholic irish/scottish celtic and on match days it is stressful to say the least. However, he, like other decent people/football supporters, wants to see us out of this mess and has given me £100 towards the fund - the banter continues unabated but at least decency prevails - something Mr Whyte is completely ignorant of! I am still worried that he has ibroxu stadium and murray park sewn up?? This crook has hocked the arsenal shares so god alone knows what has happened to the real estate? This is all about football and sport - who does Mr Whyte think he is? NE Bearette.

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Stupid people if its a dummy email address it wont register

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M8 don't try to educate them let them think they are being smart.keeps them off the streets.

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Your right that's awful what the Celtic fans are doing. But its not as bad as the rangers fans who pledged and won't follow through though! And you know there will be a few. Shame on them

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24 Feb 2012 20:44:56
As a Celtic fan i agree that Neil Lennon should have kept his thoughts to himself about "Tainted Titles" Peter Lawwell was mearly responding to the media frenzy that Celtic could not survive without Rangers , Mark Hateley's column in todays Daily Record is a different thing all together , his rantings smack of sour grapes , bitterness and to use his own word CRASS hypocricy , he played for Rangers in 1994 when Celtic were on their uppers ,i'm old enough to remember the "Class" that was shown to us at that time and in the intervening years by all those of a Rangers persuasion , he should remember that before he makes a t**t of himself in the paper , the word class and Rangers dont belong in the same sentence .

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Mark Hateley is a total f@nny. Always has been and always will be.

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I also remember the class and dignity that rangers showed when they sent a wreath every hour, on the hour on the day that the bank were forcing closure


taco

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Stupid statment an in 92 that was a world class team beat by a french team on away goals for champs league final an the bribed the ref so u cantg remember well auld yin


TB

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He's a total f*d should stay off the sunbeds they must be frying his brain. He forgot to mention how much 'class' Murray had for £10/£5 quote and the 'class' the rangers players had for doing the mock huddle at Celtic park.

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Why is doing a mock huddle classless, much like this site banter comes to mind. If you can't handle it don't make comment.

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24 Feb 2012 20:11:07
Warning for gullable rangers fans.
Fot the next wee while the press will be full of made up stories about mr x,y and z wanting to take over rangers.
You will buy more newspapers.
You will have less money in your pockets.
The press know you are stupid.
You dont know/realise you are stupid.

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If mr x,y, or z does come along and buy us you will be gutted so away and play wae ur mates

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You don't even know your name.
You think your team are great.
You think you have a great manager.
You think you are the best fans in the world.
You think Scott Brown is a captain.
You think your stadium is not a mechano set.
You know you are a test.

Oranjeboom

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Its not the papers telling us whos interested its the admin

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Warning for pathetic Celtic fans who are gloating. Just remember with no money we still won the last three titles. Enjoy your tainted title because 55 will be very soon, maybe then our page will not be polluted by idiots like you.

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Celtic supporters will buy a shed load more papers as well then if their attention to this page is anything to go by.

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Does anyone actually buy newspapers now, when you can read them for free online. I must be gullible too.

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Well considering the administrators stated they have had interest from several people perhaps you are just paranoid. Although expect the Sun on Sunday to have some bizarre story.

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Your titles will stop at 54 on the day of liquidation. No more Rangers, history frozen in time.

Your newco, Rangers 2012 or whatever you want to call it will have no history, no trophies, but probably the sme muppets supporting them.

Bye, bye Rangers.

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Well it;s gonna take you three years to get out of div 3...at best.........green jhedi

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I posted this thread and im not a celtic or a football fan.Some of the replies prove the bitterness some of you reek of.

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Liquidation won't happen 2many care for this institution , rfc is a birth wright not a choice..... The bears will always be there!! W.a.t.p

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I really don't understand that last one . a birth right for who ?? billybhoy

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24 Feb 2012 19:54:40
Heres a question to all Rangers and Celtic fans who attend games and class themselves and non bitter and normal.
How many of you have reported any of your fellow fans for their sectarian chants?
And if you have not does it surprise you if when normal people hear that your an old firm fan who attends the games they then think that you agree with the p*sh?
and secondly do you think your children should go and hear these muppets?
Please respond (without mentioning other clubs outwith the old firm)

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Self policing is agood idea, somthing supporters groups have looked at i think jsm

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So ive to stand up and be a grass the police and stewards get briefed for every match its there job to hear it and point it out am i wrong? {Ed001's Note - yes you are, it is not being a grass to point out to your fellow fan that they are a disgrace. It is that kind of attitude that has allowed the world to degenerate into the mess it is in. How the hell are stewards and police meant to know exactly which ones are the problem without the help of you? But you carry on passing the buck and you are just as responsible as those singing the songs.}

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All it takes for evil to flourish is good men to look away............

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As i suspected, not many replies except the muppet that the editor shot down.
So is it
we are the respectable people ?or
we are the sheep? or
we all secretly enjoy the bitterness?
Have a word wi yerselves seriously.Do you want this country to be like Ireland?
Stop teaching you children utter drivel.
The bigots on both sides are identical types of people.
Blind loyalty is a worry

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A take it you have done it? a don't think any team in scotland has done that tbh,

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I think tickets should only be sold to supporters clubs.If someone from any of these clubs gets done for sectarian singing,etc then the whole supporters club loses their tickets for say next 6 games.After that if anyone starts then it's up to the others to put them in their place.3 strikes and the whole supporters club are banned indefinately.

Jungle Bhoy.

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Fair point but I think a Celtic fan tried it at Inverness and fit stabbed (allegedly)

I tried to tell a cop at a game and got told to shut the f*** up

Bfh

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24 Feb 2012 19:26:05
Just a wee bit of lightheartedness Bears, Doncaster has been declared a " Scottish Town " due to a 900 year old admin error, meaning doncaster Rovers are Scottish in the English league, hope for us yet, eh ? Lol AGer63

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Yes read their mayor saying he wants to become independant with us , says they have a lot to offer us lol.

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Listen mate in a 30 years time we will be the rich ones why do you think the english goverment dont want us to go it alone

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Have not given independance much thought but I find it strange why Cameron is desperate for us to stay in the uk, when in the past the Tories have treated us like sh!t could someone briefly explain? Cheers

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In 30 years time I will be skint due to the cost of living in Scotland if Alex shrek Salmond gets his way. Open your eyes FFS. If he got independence everything would go up starting with the council tax, income tax ect It's just my opinion.

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The English government? They don't have one, I assume you mean the British government at Westminster, you know the government that contains Scottish MPs as well.

GovanFR {Ed001's Note - and Welsh!}

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For the guy above stating we would be skint.
Did you know that grangemouth refines oil from scottish oil fields into petrol wich supplies 30% of the whole of the uks petrol needs. For a population of 5 million our natural resources pay for a far larger neighbours continuality. Don`t listen to the doubters, research the facts.

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24 Feb 2012 19:20:12
As I posted earlier, to the genuine
Rangers fans like STG and J this Tim
doffs his hat....
To the rest still spouting your same
old hatreds well I despair....
But to show I am a fair minded Tim
tomorrow Kempton 3.05 get on
Hectors Choice, 7/1 and bears this
time any winnings really ARE
Tax Free. hail hail Timalloy
PS and for all the watp gang I say
YOUR SKINT AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE!

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You are constantly on here, do you love or hate Rangers?

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Nae chance tim get ur money on SPEAK THE TRUTH 2.15 lingfield matey


TB

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24 Feb 2012 19:12:45
Just registered on Saverangers , pledged £100, every penny counts

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Just cause you pledged doesn't mean your going to give. Do you really believe that every person that has signed up will give their full amount?

Jelly and ice cream all round!

DazzaBhoy

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Well done mate. I pledged 500, my mates dad Pledged 5k!

J

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24 Feb 2012 18:42:01
Just pledged £2,000,000 on saverangers.com

My mates going to pledge £8,000,000 when he finishes working at the chippy.

Gee, that's an extra £10,000,000.

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Btw I have seen the number of people registered on the site fluctuate so they must be filtering out the fakes!

J

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24 Feb 2012 18:21:41
Alright guys I pledged some money yesterday and went back on ther to see how it's going but we are just under the 12000 mark. I really thought this would be more and if you think a few thousand of them are the other mob then it really,is a disappointment. Where's the 40,000 season ticket holders for a start and the fans who went to Manchester?

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Season ticket holders have already handed over plenty of money.

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Its alot of craig whyte nothing stops other fans going on worst idea ever!!

TB

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People thought 500 was the min like me but I pledged 500 so

J

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24 Feb 2012 17:04:35
A few days ago i posted a comment on here "to the uk governmet: save rangers or we all vote for independence" which caused a bit of a stir.
>My question to my fellowbears this time is...... "What is more important to you... staying in and being a part of the U.K or OUR TEAM GLASGOW RANGERS ? jsm

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The two are not tied in any way. I will always support Rangers,but I am completely against independence. It is not the governments job to save us.

GovanFR

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I'm afraid I'll vote for what's right for me and my family not the outcome of tax case. This is rangers mess the government only claiming back what we cheated from them, if someone owed rangers 75 million would you not be pissed if we never got it.

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In all honesty brerr I would rather win tax case , tell spl to stick there devalued league up there ass. Get a fan based board with major investers. And apply to bottom league in england play home games at ibrox 7 years time we will be at the top table. As for independace I'm a Unionist and all that entails watp

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That's a stupid question man. Your asking it like its exclusive an you can't have both. I'll pass on it... PaulRFC

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To say the two are not tied is absurd, thy else would we fly union jacks ?

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If david cameronon wanted 100% cert of saving the union all he has to do is find a way to get rangers and celtic into the epl

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As long as we stay brittish there is always a small chance of playing in england, if scotland go it alone no chance of playing in england.

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All for us to rule our own country why let another do it for you,BUT THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO DISCUSS SUCH MATTERS

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I don't want to start a political debate on a footie forum but why is Cameron so desperate for us to stay part of the uk when prime ministers of the past especially the tories have treated us with contempt?

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They are not tied, Rangers fans flying Union Jacks is irrelevant. The guy was suggesting that we vote for independence if the government don't bail us out which is ridiculous.

GovanFR

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I will never vote for snp jog on matey


TB

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My original post is meant to be along the same lines as what the torries have always done to scotland "its called scaremongering" if peoplebeleive we are better off as part of the uk then (oh i dont want to sound like one of them, but get your head out of the sand) jsm

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24 Feb 2012 16:59:12
I would be willing to make my season ticket null and void and pay a £10 er at the gate
for the rest of the season. If everyone
done that and we got around 40,000
that would be around 4m per game!

that could total an extra 20m before the
end of the season!

Just a thought!

J

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Good idea m8 but would only raise £400,000 per game.

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Erm. wouldn't that be £400k per game

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No we wouldn't it would be 400,000. Are you Craig Whytes accountant FFS

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"J" good idea, like your fellow bear STG who is pledging money also, but sadly your arithmetic is out 10x 40,000 is only
£400,000 not £4m but I guess every little helps when money is scarce. Timalloy

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I have already paid my season ticket which is 500 for the year, bought all the tops and some more for presents etc, when am at ibrox I pay my fair share for food and drink. I have already pledged 500 to the saverangers website which I will pay, but I am doing all of this while being a student. Now If people can afford it then I have no problem about that but as you see for myself and I am sure many other season ticket holders it is just not affordable with bills etc to pay. I have already this season spent well in excess of £1000 at Ibrox this season as I have for the past 10 years and will continue to do so every season as I love our club, but I realy do think that the least that can be done is that season tickets are honoured as they have been paid for and are imo a contract between the club and the supporter. I know the club needs revenue but if season tickets are cancelled then I fear the worst for attendences.

AH72

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Thats how yous are in the state your in as adding up figures aint your forty

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As far as im aware that would be illegal because ticketus are due the money

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A lot of people can hardly pay for season books, a Tenner a game is a lot of money for a family of 4, that's 40 pound extra a game, sorry charity begins at home.

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Aye mate just like language isn't your "FORTY" .... Classic. PaulRFC

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Give the guy a break all the zeros must have him confused. PaulRFC

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May I suggest checking your sums lol

Nice thought though,unlucky.

Jamie Mac(that's the spirit(

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Remember folks craig whyte still owns the club

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SPELLING ain't your " forte' " either chum, worry about your own team, we will be fine. AGer63

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We own the club, he is only an uninvited guest, and he is about to be shown the door of " the BIG house "

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Haha yea miscalculated that one! Too many zero's aye that'll do lol. But 2m would be better than nothing and could keep the staff on etc, the players are minted but the wee man that cuts the grass at Murray park and tea ladies etc that have been there at rangers for years are the ones that suffer most.

J

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24 Feb 2012 16:58:45
My thots @ 27 year old been going to football since i was 3 from top flight to highland leauge and my dad had a sunday leauge team,i think now would be a good time for all chairmen to tell sky n tv ta stick their deals as every club in debt chasing after the same dream,we as football folk around the world should grab chance to take football back to what it was,11 players playing for jersey money just a bonus,champs leauge n uefa cup wouldent vanish it was their before,get playersvsalary down n forget all the business n play football,no player bigger than a club no club bigger than their fans,its about time world football fans showed tv their not the boss of football n let it b about players fans n clubs,everyone would live within means sky would have to buck up if fans turned on them,if anybody think chasing sky money way foreward for football is a joke,lets take our game back n leave business outside football,as sir alex said tv money is the devil

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I guess you refuse to watch football on tv then.

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Nice thought but it will never happen.
PaulRFC

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24 Feb 2012 16:50:07
In the grand scheme of things old firm fans (yes both sets) need to be realistic.
There are times when a club goes through bad times/lean spells etc. Take a look at the epl with Chelsea/arsenal/Liverpool (the latter of which were in their own financial mire not too long ago). Juventus were relegated/marseilles had issues... Granted there is more money in these clubs.

My point is - celtic have had some sparse years (as have real madrid for example) these will end this year - that is football. Rangers fans have to accept the ebb and flow - rangers will most likely stay in the spl (money talks when it comes down to it) and, eventually will be strong enough to win the league again.. (unless we do an Aberdeen)

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24 Feb 2012 16:39:34
can i just ask one question - when all this is over and a corner is turned, can Whyte be forced to sell up and go

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24 Feb 2012 16:11:02
Let the others come after us. We welcome the chase. It is healthy for us. We will never hide from it. Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure, and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity. No matter the days of anxiety that come our way, we shall emerge stronger because of the trials to be overcome. That has been the philosophy of the Rangers since the days of the gallant pioneers.
Bill Struth

The Rangers will never die, we the people don't do walking away!

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It;s the 21st century! get a grip with this rubbish

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Well not for 70 minutes anyway ............ then you head to the exits.

Walk away it's the Rangers way.

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Get a grip with this rubbish. These are the words of the clubs greatest ever manager. I think you need to get a grip son

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Walk away it's the Rangers way, nah, keep an eye on and comment on ALL things RANGERS, is the Sellick way, potty person !! AGer63

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24 Feb 2012 15:37:49
Ive put pledged £25 each week to saverangers.com im doing 2 hours O/T at work which will more than cover it, its not a fortune but it will mount up to well over £100 probs nearer £200 by time we come out of admin, if things go well and fans get a large share of the club im going to invest for sure, the dream for me is now rangers fans have the club controls in our hands, no longer will one chairman take loans against the club or withdraw backing when his hearts not in it any longer, no dividend payouts to holders just reinvestment into the club-it sounds great right now-we are the foundations of the club, all i ask is for the bluenoses to spare what they can, from a £1 to whatever every pound takes the possibility closer, spare this weekends beer tokens so in the future we have something to celebrate with our beer!
stg

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STG, fair play to you, I know we tims are milking the moment, but it's the decent fans like yourself that will help your team with it's slow recovery. Well done from this tim, just be careful but with who is in charge of the fans money, you don't want another whyte character pocketing it. Timalloy

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Celtic fan here, not on to criticise u mate but I'd keep ur hard earned overtime, completely understand your love for ur club but if every gers man who has season tkt pledges 500 quid it still wouldn't touch the sides of the debt rangers owe, throwing money into a black hole, ps I don't want rangers out of business. L1888

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Wasting yer hard earned cash m8,as this saverangers is far too late,should have been done about a year ago,but was all timmy propaganda!a see strathclydes fines have it in writing from rfc,that they will be paid(lol,like all the other creditors)so that games&old firm can go ahead,probably not worth the paper its written on!....

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Timalloy - that is the most sense you have spoken on this site, fair play to you, we are trying to help our club and ANY football fans, especially celtics fans should appreciate that gesture after 1994. Keep up the registrations bears, i done 500, wanted to do a G but the mrs wouldnt have it!lol

Anything you can afford guys, you can enter whatever amount possible. Every penny helps.

Jas

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Rangers will never die.Reason - bigotry
celtic will never die Reason bigotry.
Can fans not see that they are just loyal to a big blue/green money making machine.
True football fans love the game.
It is only a game.
Not a way of life.
So carry on putting money into these clubs and lining shareholders pockets.
It a f@@ing joke what fans are charged.
The old firm know year after year they have thousands of bitter dafties ready to pay whatever it takes to support the team their grandas granda supported cos its their history.
Thats the thing about history.Your meant to look back and learn from mistakes in the past, not continue the same p@ish.

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24 Feb 2012 15:35:02
i don't think www.wedontdowalkingaway.org is working out. it seems to be hi jacked by timmothys

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Wedontdowalkingaway.org is a con

saverangers is the official supports asemblys website

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Raised so far: £ -7508106.00
Total members: 31

Yeah, just might have been hacked, but at the end of the day no-one has actually donated any money, so the website is irrelevant!

Jelly and ice cream all round!

DazzaBhoy

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Dazzabhoy, maybe it was Dave King passport

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Hey, least i've the baws to admit i'm wrong, admit your mob are f***ed?

Must be to have a website asking people to "maybe" donate!

Jelly and ice cream all round!

DazzaBhoy

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Dont do jelly and ice cream only helicopter sundaes

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Bet you wont have a helicopter sundae this year.haw haw haw

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Your right we won't need a helicopter this year, we'll pick up the trophy at ibrokes on march the 25th!

Jelly and ice cream all round!

DazzaBhoy

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24 Feb 2012 15:26:53
Any Rangers takeover surely has to go through due dilligence along with the SFA fit and proper checks done proper this time! does this not normally take months for these processes meaning there would be no quick takeover before 31st of March??

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I see where your thinkings going mate... I would forget about Europe for the time being we have more pressing issues. PaulRFC

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24 Feb 2012 15:14:17
Here's a question! Since ticketus have our season ticket sales for the next 3 years, does this mean if we never bought season tickets and just attended games we'd bypass ticketus profit and the money would go to rangers?

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No ticketus wood still get the money

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There would be a get out clause written in

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This question been asked plenty. the answer is that ticketus own rights to percentage of seats at ibrox for next four years and it dont matter if you pay at gate or buy season ticket, they get the money, like it or not they entitled to it as well.
billyboy

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We need to forget Europe just now, would probably be embarrassing anyway, as for ticketus and all other creditors, they need to be satisfied if we are to retain some dignity after this sorry mess, I just hope we get answers, but I doubt we will ever be fully in the picture.

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Ticketus deal could be wiped out if whyte not met certain conditions in sale of club to him and other ways it may get passed to him dont think it was secured

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Ticketus deal is only nil and void if Rangers go into liquidation and a new co is formed.

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24 Feb 2012 15:14:00
Watch yer back Ally. Wee McCall is
after your job when things settle.

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I agree

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24 Feb 2012 15:13:41
I'm beginning to get very sick of all the Murray bashing along with Craig Whyte. Has everybody forgotten the amount of money he spent on our great club?

Rangers were £78m in debt before he returned as chairman and when a new share issue failed, he underwrote £50m himself.

This is all on top of buiding Murray Park and getting Ibrox to the standard of stadium it currently is.

He also threw a huge amount of money into transfers during the Advocaat era. £40m being spent on duds alone. These "duds" were down to the decision making of the Manager and I feel Me Murray deserves some credit for at least making a very ambitious attempt at buying success.

In my opinion he has not run away. He has been duped by Whyte. The reason he had to walk away was because his other business' were failing due to too much time being taken up by Rangers. He was on record saying he had 270 messages on his phone with 70% relating to Rangers. Now for a man with businesses with values totalling around £700m and Rangers making up a small fraction of his business portfolio, I'm sure people might begin to understand his reasoning in choosing to walk away.

I as a Rangers fan, would be extremely pleased if SIR David Murray returned as owner and got down to the business of sorting this mess out once and for all but sadly that does not seem possible.

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Murray signed the cheques that put us in debt! he paid huge wages that hung around the clubs neck, murrays rangers exploited the hmrc-murray sold us to a conman, yes he put money into the club at various times, which wouldnt have been a shock to him, he loved the glory that came with us- he has alot to answer for my friend, yes whyte has duped us all
i still want to believe murray will come forward and help us now as it seems he has some claim to the club as it looks like whyte has breeched several sale conditions but he has to be held accountable for the finanical state rangers were in long before whyte was sniffing around the club
stg

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Oh please, you seem to think that his mis spending is a good thing, well we are reaping the benefits now aren't we. He was the man that caused this. He was the one who stated the club would only be sold to a fit person, well done DM. The truth is he offloaded and ran away because he knew the tax case would sink us. Please do not give him any credit at all. He declared himself a custodian of the club who would pass the club on in a good state, failed again. Wake up and smell the coffee. I have been a season ticket holder for forty years and if he is back, I won't be there

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BigBear1873 your defence of SDM is staggering, the reason his share issue failed is because he put us in the debt so the fans said you get us out of it, here is a couple of facts you seem 2 have missed ENIC ploughed 40 mill into RANGERS they left a few years later there shares worthless.Dave King put in 20 mill 2 fund the advocaat era not SDM.
Did SDM bleat about his messages on his phone when he was getting his photo taken with all the trophies Walter Smith & his team won, no he was quite happy 2 have them on his cv he also agreed 2 the ebt scheme which made it almost impossible 2 sell the club until Nice but Dim turned up.Now the bit that gets me is, you also say he was duped by cw well is SDM not the man who said he would not sell 2 any1 who would not take the club forward,if this is taking the club forward I would hate 2 see him sell 2 someone who didn't have our best interest at heart.When cw was doing due dilligence SDM should have been doing the same, you are not telling me a man like SDM would not make it his business 2 know what sort of person he was dealing with.You also say his business empire was failing because his time was taken up by RANGERS, let me tell you something I work for a global company they make millions of pounds each day in life do you know why they manage 2 do this,it is they have the correct people in place 2 make sure everything is working the way it should be each day,when a problem comes up they don't just throw money at it, an example celtic sign chris sutton for 6 mill, pump RANGERS 6-2 first old firm game season, oh I know what 2 do lets sign T A Flo for 12 mill that will sort the problem out, I know what my boss would have said it ends with off.I as A rangers fan am staggered that some people still defend this man Hugh Adam as has been pointed out several times on this site said 10 years ago SDM would ruin our club I would rather have some1 like Hugh Adam on the board than some ego maniac any day, so as A RANGERS fan I do not want 2 argue with you at these times, but I would have SDM name taken down from the training complex tommorow & if the man has 1 ounce of decency in his body he would make a sizeable donation 2 the saverangers appeal when it starts to collect the monies people have pledged
NTYABOW

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Aye 20m funded advocaat! he spent 80m ya fud!

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You also must realise that David Murray must have known that Craig Whyte was selling the next three or four years season ticket money, because how could Whyte do so without owning Rangers, Murray knew where the funding was coming from make no mistake about that. (The TRUTH is extreme, to make it MODERATE is to lie) JS.

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Whyte and Murray are rightly being berated regarding the state the club finds itself in.What i would like to know is
what were the accountants roll in all of this i have yet to hear or read anything regarding them.

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24 Feb 2012 15:03:22
keep hearing these stories about paul murray ,dave king and so on putting forward plans to takeover club. im no solicitor but isnt there insolvency laws that would prevent directors of a business that went into insolvency becoming directors of another organisation for 3 or 5 years?

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Nope it's only the business that goes under, unless the directors have fallen foul of disqualification rules, in other words they can set up another business the same day and so on.

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One thing put you in trouble your quest for the european cup.but as you know it was the team on the other side of glasgow that won it.just take it on the chin, w.w.t.p.

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24 Feb 2012 14:56:10
Football talk! What would everyone go with as their starting lineup tomorrow. We are without; Papac (suspension) Wallace, Ness, Whittaker, Naismith, Lafferty (4-6 weeks still out) .
I'd go with;
McGregor
Broadfoot Perry Bocanegra Kerkar
Aluko Davis Edu Wylde
McCulloch Healy

Although I'd be tempted to play Bedoya or Hemmings in place of Healy. I'm going with Perry because Goian has been terrible recently and we were much more solid last week when Perry came on.

GovanFR

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Thot the game was sunday

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Oh my god the teams rubbish

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Aye it is Sunday, my mistake so used to Saturday games!

GovanFR

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(I no you meant Sunday mate). I'd agree with that team apart from left back... We must have a young left back who could do a job... Kerkar an Wylde on the same flank will have problems IMO. PaulRFC

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McCulloch Healy

That forward line says it all really :(

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Well GovanFR I hope your not making the trip up tomorrrow as you will be disapointed as the game is on sunday!
The Team will be
shagger
clubfoot goian perry boca

aluko davis edu wylde

healy mmculloch

*ksd*

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*ksd* notice above how I pointed out it was on Sunday.

GovanFR

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Ness is fit again

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Rangers web-site - this weekend will be too soon for Ness to feature against Inverness.

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24 Feb 2012 14:51:50
where is the court case for the `big tax`taking place,and is there a public viewing area?

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It was a tribunal and it took place mid January, the decision will be reached by the board and Rangers will be informed within 6-8 weeks of the tribunal, so basically the result is due early to mid March.

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Im not sure but i think these hearings are done in private to try and protect the identity of the debtor. a joke in this case i know but think thats how its done. maybe Ed could tell us more. {Ed001's Note - if there had been public viewing areas the press would have been in there filling their pages with reports day after day.}

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Ive never met anyone who has been in suspended animation....wow!

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24 Feb 2012 14:06:31
Seems strange wolves ain't been able to appoint any of there targets ed? I thought curbishley an co would of jumped at the chance there's some good players in that team (don't think wolves suited Walter though). PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - a lot was to do with Morgan's vision of the future, he wants the club to focus more on youth development. Most managers don't want to be the ones setting it up, as it is very unlikely they will still be in place to reap the benefits. You only have to look at Man Utd, Ron Atkinson spent years setting up the youth system, but it was Fergie that got the benefits from it. Who wants to be the Ron Atkinson and seen as a failure?}

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Fair point cheers... PaulRFC

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24 Feb 2012 13:57:12
Ed what's your opinion on why a verdict in this tax case is taking so long.... Surely this weeks been the last week they need because it seems to me that I've been hearing 2-3 weeks for an eternity... I personally think the outcomes been decided so what's the p!ssing hold up? PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - because it is a very complicated case, it is not a simple situation. It is not as simple as proving Rangers used EBTs, it is a case of proving that when they used them they didn't follow the correct methodology. It is also covering a number of years, which means a lot of people are involved and need to be spoken to and their testimony considered. It can take all day just to hear one witness' statement and then to have the witness cross-examined.}

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Ok... Thanks again. PaulRFC

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PaulRFC - what makes you think the outcome has been decided?

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24 Feb 2012 13:54:36
Just a couple of serious points, yes
even I can be serious!, first point
your club is in all kinds of smelly stuff
over unpaid taxes, so who is now
being protrayed as your saviour?
ANOTHER TAX EVADER? Don't you
bears have any law abiding supporters?
second point you badly need money
to keep your club running, guess which
club's supporters are a) helping just
now by buying Old firm tickets and
b) if you had beaten dundee utd,
you would have a money spinning
game against yes, CELTIC worth
£1m+, factor in a replay like last
year and your admin guys would be
laughing to the tune of £2m+, oh dear
but you cannot blame anyone but
Sally for that with his poor tactics!
hail hail Timalloy

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Serious? How can anyone take you serious after posting that, was that any different to what you normally post? No- one is interested any more. What will be will be, but.....................wouldn' t be too self righteous just yet, may be news on celtics policies to come out in the wash, in the not to near future.

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A serious post and you make generalizations that no Rangers supporters are law abiding, and referring to McCoist as Sally? grow up

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24 Feb 2012 13:52:43
hi ed can u tell me what all this pacific shelf 595 ltd being created in 94 by celtic talk is all about? If the old company folded would that not mean celtic as we knew it pre 94 would no longer exist? thank
Ian {Ed001's Note - they changed the company from a private ltd company, into a public ltd company so that they could do a share issue. In doing so, they had to register a change of name with Companies House. There is no folding or loss of history, it is just a change in name in effect. Celtic of pre-1994 is the same Celtic of post-1994.}

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we almost went out of business , but we were saved by fergus who had money and was a genius,did exactly what he said he would do, we didn't die, we changed to a plc trading company. So we have our history protected, we have money and most importantly We pay our taxes, we have 3 billionaires in charge and not sociopath who came with a quid and who turned out to be a conman , you would think someone with a brain cell would've looked Swiss Toni up, age 40 and has out 28 companies out the game !

Skay bhoy( paying his taxes)

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24 Feb 2012 13:38:59
Business Plan

Stage 1: Buy Rangers debt for £0.01

Stage 2: Obtain cash advance by selling future season ticket sales, pay off Lloyds bank debt to free up accounts for day to day running.

Stage 3: Strip Glasgow Rangers of any tangible assets, including Ibrox and Murray Park by transferring to holding companies using leftover cash advances from season ticket sales.

Stage 3: Hold back Tax and PAYE for season 2011-12 due to cash flow problems obtained from stage 2.

Stage 4: Apply for administration when stage 3 becomes unattainable.

Stage 5: Administer preferred administrators to reduce debt, restructure organisation with eventual liquidation.

Stage 6: Start preferred new organisation with backing of holding companies that own Ibrox and Murray Park.

Stage 7: Register new organisation with FA.

Stage 8: Commence 2012/13 season.

C Whyte.

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So Craig is that more lies coz I thought ya paid a poond not a penny! PaulRFC

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24 Feb 2012 13:32:42
Have seen loads of names/groups mentioned on here as poss new owners, but for the last 2 or 3 days the name Ian Sutty (Suttie ?) keeps popping up as the man fronting a fan buyout... Any one know who this is ? Don't think it's been in the papers, not that I have seen anyway
BB

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Never heard of him mate.. PaulRFC

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Begining to think it's p*sh maself. The lad that told me is usually well informed, when I heard it again I thought it must be kosher...
BB

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24 Feb 2012 13:27:31
Got to laugh at the stupid bears social network pages claiming that a new club was created by Celtic in 94. On one hand it's totally false and on the other it seems these fans have accepted that rangers will go bust and are kidding themselves on that it's ok because it happened to us. I suppose when you are in mourning you cling to anything that could comfort.."Celtic went bust,dave king will buy us,Richard Branson will buy us,saverangers will help,Paul murrays consortium will buy us, we're taking over from leyton orient, Banstead will become rangers and not forgetting Craig Whyte is going to jail"

None of this is true and won't happen,fact. Surely you lot should have learned to listen to Timmy by now, after all we were the only folks telling the bears the truth. But you don't do walking away and will continue to buy into the stories from the same media outlets that told you Whyte had a war chest.

Enjoy these next few games because "super rangers" are on the way out. Not what I want for the real gers fans btw, not at all, it's just a question of numbers and as whytey shows- they can't be masked,made up it falsified forever. It's just that now you have nothing left to sell,pawn or steal as your credit lines are damaged forever.

But keep the faith anyway

Jamie Mac(only stating facts)

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Pacific shelf 595 limited

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Didn't you read what the Ed. said earlier - the claims about the name change from Rangers fans are utter nonsense - it was just a change of name to do with floating on the stock market, nothing more than that - the club's history remains unbroken. No admin, liquidation, newco, etc. so stop fantasising.

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I point out that this doesn't mean Celtic folded and you offer the same trash talk back? Could I direct you back to the first line of my original post as you have illustrated my point.

Thanks to you sir, I mean it.

Jamie Mac(vindicated)

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24 Feb 2012 13:26:15
EBT's were only made illegal in january, everyone knowes this legal experts have said we have nothing to fear, HMRC know this, hence why they want to wait untill the end of the tax year so we cant play in europe, but they have us by the balls over the 'wee' tax case, but we are going to win the 'b'big'cas then celtic will have nothing to sing about apart from a tainted title!! they are a joke of a club

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Your a joke poster.if you think you can win why did rangers offer a 13m settlement in jan'11? this tainted title nonsense;we turned around a nine point lead BEFORE ADMIN and before you got 9m for jellylegs(oh sorry it was 4.5m),we could now give you your TEN POINTS back and still be leading by TEN POINTS.no wonder you never left a name........green jhedi

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If by joke of a club you mean mean being well ran,paying creditors and building for the future then you are spot on bud. Well said

Jamie Mac(mines a treble)

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You are right about them being a joke of a club- self righteous, only hear what they want to hear, listening to pinochio Lawell etc- but they had already gone top of the league, so no point going on about tainted title etc. You sound as bitter as them, get over it.

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I am getting fed up with everyone saying we must back ally.. We had a 15point lead out of all cups .After everything gets sorted
Ally must go I hate to say it but he is not cut out for the job..I think he will wanttjis to run for some time ,as the focus is of how bad a job he is doing

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24 Feb 2012 13:24:22
Only way to avoid Big tax case was for Rangers to go into admin & agree CVA. Lloyds didnt want to be seen to do this as Gers fans would boycott bank also SDM didnt want to damage reputation. So Whyte was brought in as a patsy to be the fall guy. Lloyds, SDM, Whyte & future consortium (for after admin as no proper buyer would get involved till after tax case) sat down last year to sort it. Plan was to enter admin in October before tax case result. Problem was case put forward by Gers was so good, Court looked at it & saw nothing wrong so HMRC asked for it to be delayed to allow them to try & sort out their own case. This delay of approx 5 months is whats created further damage as they hadnt budgeted for it.

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Please tell me you dont believe that load of cobblers? is that why HMRC wanted their own admin officers in?..........get help........green jhedi

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Just because green yeti can't believe it doesn't mean it's not true

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24 Feb 2012 12:46:07
i hope u post this cos i think its something that wd be the best way foward and wd like the guys of save rangers to see it and give there opinion so please post i have pledged my grand , cant afford it bt will manage . anyway , rangers need saved which is well doable , wot about tomorrow , i would be more than happy to donate a fixed fee every month say 15 or 20 pound every month direct debit say 20000 fans which again is a modest amount i think prob double wd sign up for that but withthis added revenue plus all other avenues of revenue we could sustain the club ourselves

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A great gesture but is it not too late,if you save things the bills are still waiting for you to pay?..........green jhedi

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Thats not the way forward,its mismanagement of the finances of the club that caused this problem,with attendences of over 45,000 most home games the sponsorship and the sale of replica strips etc we should never have gotten into such a mess

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24 Feb 2012 12:42:46
Happy Birthday Sir Walter.....

Here is to many more..

Pistol

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24 Feb 2012 12:24:41
Where's the love ? It's Walter's birthday and not a mention.

Paddy Malarkey

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24 Feb 2012 11:28:28
how about this for irony; it seems a certain scottish knight of the realms father done a bit of time at her majesty's expense for not paying tax..........hmmm,i wonder who?.............green jhedi

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24 Feb 2012 09:21:31
so you don't do walking away , i see in the paper today the next old firm game could be postponed because celtic will win the title at ibrokes , thats not walking away thats running scared , billybhoy

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Read it correctly! Its to do with unpaid fees to Strathclyde Police. Who cares where you win your tainted title, handed on a plate to you by Craig Whyte.

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BillyBhoy. We dont do walking away! This is the SFA and police making the call. You lot know what happend the the last time the gers won the title at Porkheid. You lot were jumping from the upper teirs and throwing everyrthing at the ref. Enjoy this one when you can. We will be back!

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Default title that nobody cares about!

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Concentrate on your own problems , yous cant fill you stadium when yous are on the verge of a treble , mock all yous want about the "we dont do walkin away "slogan , it dosent seem that you lot can do walkin tae yir stadium

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Default title not a chance Celtic have won the last 16 league games and could well win the rest a wouldn't call tht default

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To the stupid clowns that can not count Celtic dint need the 10 points .. That would be thanks to ally who is a s**t manager ..hope he stays ..Treble on it's way

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Laughing at strathclyde police ..We have it in writing we will get paid ..how thick are they .Taxman , Hearts Dumfermline
Dundee utd list goes on and on and on and on

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Default title my arse! We are 20 points clear that's 10, plus the 10 you had taken from you!

We clawed back your 15 point lead and actually overtook you to take 4 point lead, whilst you still had Jellyfish and weren't in administration! No excuses!

We have fully deserved our lead, and we will fully deserve our title parties.......especially the one at ibrokes. IF the police allow you to play it!

Jelly and ice cream all round!

DazzaBhoy

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All hypothetical, we might have won our last game if we weren't in admin, we may have won a lot more if there hadn't been the risk of admin. Enjoy the tainted title.

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We'll see how tainted it is next year and the next two after that! You's are in so much sh*t that you won't get to unfurl any flag for years to come!

What excuse will you use next year?

Jelly and ice cream all round!

DazzaBhoy

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Deep down they all know the only thing tainted this year is Rangers reputation. They will never live this down...it will be thrown in their face for years to come and when they next win the title noone will believe it has been won fairly. Once a cheat always a cheat!

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24 Feb 2012 07:53:57
Glad to see you celtic bhoys,supporting her majesty. Rule Britannia bhoys. inv bear

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Thats best thing about this whole mess it's wee lizzy that's going shut you's down..... You don't do walking away yaz run. We Ain't Paying Taxes. Bigirishmac

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I assume you meant 'We Aint Paying Taxes' to be a WATP but instead you got WAPT. FAIL FAIL

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24 Feb 2012 10:41:34
if craig whyte is found guilty for tax evasion and fraud will it be rangers football club that suffers and can rangers sue craig whyte? ? SW

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24 Feb 2012 10:01:03
www.saverangers.com - the resistance has started.

At 5pm today www.saverangers.com is to be launched by the three main supporters groups. Visit the site and pledge your support and amount you can put in. Once the time is right we need to be 'Ready', this is the first step on the road be sure and take it. WATP. Please fwd on to all gers fans

Even if we go into liquidation and restart as a newco we will be rich and debt free!

Step up to the plate bears, we are the best fans in the world.

Tims - GTF this doesn't concen you.

Jas

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You will be rich? That made me laugh.

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@jas;and bang goes any sympathy you might have had with your gtf add on.you sad deluded person.rich in div3? if liquidated thats where your heading..........green jhedi

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Yea i know Green fud. I want to gio back to Division 3 as we cant play in europe anyway for 3 years. also if we stay in spl we will have 15 points of a disadvantage for 3 years! If the fans can own the club we will be a rich club, especially for D3 so i dont see your point? Please tell me the point of a newco staying in spl? I want your team to suffer so D3 it is.

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Why would celtic suffer in rangers went in to division 3 if anything rangers would be the team to suffer as all the current players would move as i dont see davis or mcgregor settling for playing against part timers week in week out. And if rangers were to gain promotion back to the spl after 3 seaons it would still take time to build a team good enough to challenge for the spl title davie c

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Jas...celtic fans have been all over the saverangers site and pledged so much monopoly money and made a mockery of the whole thing...it's pointless and now meaningless...

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24 Feb 2012 09:00:25
Rangers fans must ask ourselves some questions.Iloved Ally McCoist as a player but as a manager he is either naive or inept. He supported Whyte and strung us along bringing in various players for trials at our club and most of them came to nothing. I am very disillusioned.

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He supported Whyte because you can't go around publicly slating your boss.

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Whyte has left McCoist looking stupid

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24 Feb 2012 08:49:15
These timothys are rather desperate boys, they are on this site till the bitter end! We all go to beds they still come trawling through the pages hitting their disagree button at 3 in the morning... Have you lot not got women an beds to go to man? Tacos been staring at this page so long he's hearing voices coming from his bt-vision! PaulRFC

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And all you can do is talk about 'Timothy'... you're just as bad, really, maybe worse as you fail to see how.

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@Paulrfc;interesting you use the phrase"the bitter end" is that because it's in sight?.......green jhedi

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It would appear the bitter end is in site, yes,can't speak for anyone else but I'm glad it's gonna end soon bitter or not because been stuck in limbo not knowing is a nightmare man sooner we no sooner we can move forward! PaulRFC

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@Paulrfc; good point,sad for all true fans though......green jhedi

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24 Feb 2012 09:55:50
We're
Ahead
Twenty
Points

Miko x

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2 posts in a row on a rangers page miko, it's sad that u care more about rangers than your own team. You really need to get a life haha

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Default title that noone will remember for celtic's ghreat football.
haha

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24 Feb 2012 09:33:03
WATP???

I know exactly what this acronym stands for......

We Are The Percy's! lol....a belter!

Miko x

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Think we've found the true belter

Canyousaybanana!!

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24 Feb 2012 09:28:22
www.wedontdowalkingaway.org

Lets all rally together and see what funds COULD be raised if we joined this consortium

Please pass this on to all rangers fans!

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Www.saverangers.com is the one to go to! 11,000 members and counting! dont want to confuse people with multi sites!

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24 Feb 2012 08:35:21
ali russell and smith are out, thank god! just whyte and ellis next, 2 down 2 to go!

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24 Feb 2012 07:16:58
Just when Rangers were about to get the Police to launch a " missing persons " investigation for Gordon Smith, he reappears and resigns !! Where has he been ? In our darkest hours he is annonymous and then he cuts and runs ! What a guy, what an absolute guy...... Lord Lucan, you are nothing compared to this Legend.... Ye couldnae write it Bears, eh ? AGer63

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Smith was made redundant..more money owed. now you could not make THAT up..........green jhedi

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To be fair to him he has a go at Whyte in his parting statement; he claimed his remit was to deal with; youth development, scouting, and contract negotiations. Despite him repeatedly reminding Whyte of this he wasn't allowed to do any of it. He has also pledged his support to the save rangers fund. My only point is why did he not resign months back if Whyte wasn't letting him do his job.

GovanFR

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@GovanFR;so does that mean mccoist was responsible for the trialists fiasco,and if smith should have walked for being hamstrung by whyte,should mccoist have done so as well? its terrible that fans are gonna run up debt to help their club........green jhedi

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Green Jhedi, Are you suggesting McCoist dealt with contracts? I'm quite sure McCoist brought people on trial to have a look at them and if he rated them would ask Whyte to do a deal, but Whyte wouldn't. Your second point- there is a clear difference Smith wasn't being allowed to do his job, McCoist is attempting to do his just under very difficult circumstances they would be the same if Whyte picked the team. Your last point doesn't make sense.

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@GovanFR;well most managers will say how much they want a target and what they think there worth in wages.so if whyte never managed to give the go ahead surely that would be hindering mccoist? if mccoist was responsible for trialists why was money not sorted before bringing them on trial? surely this would be classed as whyte not letting him get on with it?....green jhedi

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24 Feb 2012 06:04:59
i know craig whyte is an asset stripper by trade ,but why would one man try to bring down a club like rangers?

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So hard to work out what whyte plan was for good to come of rangers,why is he our chairman,

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24 Feb 2012 03:23:02
Gordon Smith = Disgrace. It's one thing to have done nothing in the past year and get paid by the club... It's another to try and get sympathy from the support. Your "I couldn't do my job" comment is disgusting. This is the type of "burying your head" type attitude Rangers are being ridiculed for. Rangers needed people in a position like yours to stand up. Mr. Smith you are a culprit, not a victim!!

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Agree mate i couldnt believe it , why if u couldnt do ur job did u stay in postion apart from a six figure salary... craig+babybear

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Totally agree. For him to basically say he got paid plenty for doing nothing is shocking. If he felt in any way restricted in his job he should have quit. W I for one would have respected him more if he had done that, especially after saying that he went to Whyte outlining his plan on a number of occasions only to have his plans more of less blocked. Instead he done nothing about this and just carried on picking up a very handsome mean ticket and kept his mouth shut. Now he's looking for sympathy? He'll not get any from me. He's a total disgrace.

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It beggars the question if we didnt go administration how long were you going to sit there Mr Smith and get paid for
doing hee haw....jog on i fully expect to see you creep onto our TV screens next with a cushy number next to Frodo Nevin!

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He also more says he was not responsible for transfers.so who was? mccoist? if so why is he wasting money on players and not playing them? looks like the old pals act rumours are true.murray and brown as scouts?

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24 Feb 2012 03:09:24
Correct me if I'm wrong ed but portsmouth are in adminstration and just signed Scott Allan on loan could rangers not at the very least play cousin as a trialist ? Abronhill bear {Ed001's Note - I thought triallists were only eligible to play in the SFL? I know Portsmouth had to get special dispensation to get a player in, their manager has been pretending to only have a squad of about 12. I just wonder what the youth team players there must be thinking when the manager would rather have spaces on the bench than put them on it! I would expect it to be similar in the SPL, Rangers would have to have a squad of less than about 14, but then they would probably get told to recall loan players first anyway.}

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Abronhill Bear, I'm a Seafar Bear m8 !! Do we really need Cousin ? Think not.. AGer63

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What difference would he make , lose the league by 29 points rather than 30 ,billybhoy

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24 Feb 2012 01:32:35
My Papa's valentine card for my Granny last week:

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I've got Alzheimers
Cheese on toast

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It was a Ford Capri!

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Absolute quality pmsl

Billyboy1

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Funny !!

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24 Feb 2012 00:23:16
PACIFIC SHELF 595 LIMITED AKA SEPTIC can anyone explain why they still hold there trophy records when there company was started in 1994 {Ed001's Note - can people please stop this crap!!! I am getting sick of deleting this complete deluded nonsense. The company was not started in 1994, as is clear if you actually took the time to look, you will see that 1994 was simply a change of name.}

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Well said ED!!,this obsession with dates and strip trophies is 1 lot garbage,should concentrate on crisis,after crisis each day,every day its murkier,end game coming i think.....

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24 Feb 2012 00:19:37
“There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.” – Donald Rumsfeld
When the former US Secretary of Defense made the above statement in 2002 he was mocked by the Plain English Campaign for what looked like impenetrable jargon. But fast forward to the shambles at Ibrox and ask yourself – could anybody have expressed the situation more cogently than Rumsfeld?

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24 Feb 2012 00:15:44
Any fact in rumor septic are next on taxmans list as been claiming v.a.t relief on silver polish.

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Who's silver polish? That new boy or Arthur boruc maybe? PaulRFC

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24 Feb 2012 00:08:06
The words to 3 little birds by Bob Marley we should sing.
"Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right.
Singin': "Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"

Rise up this mornin',
Smiled with the risin' sun,
Three little birds
Pitch by my doorstep
Singin' sweet songs
Of melodies pure and BLUE,
Sayin', ("This is my message to you-ou-ou:")

Singin': "Don't worry 'bout a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right."
Singin': "Don't worry (don't worry) 'bout a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!"

Rise up this mornin',
Smiled with the risin' sun,
Three little birds
Pitch by my doorstep
Singin' sweet songs
Of melodies pure and BLUE,
Sayin', "This is my message to you-ou-ou:"

Singin': "Don't worry about a thing, worry about a thing, oh!
Every little thing gonna be all right. Don't worry!"
Singin': "Don't worry about a thing" - I won't worry!
"'Cause every little thing gonna be all right."

Singin': "Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right" - I won't worry!
Singin': "Don't worry about a thing,
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right."
Singin': "Don't worry about a thing, oh no!
'Cause every little thing gonna be all right!

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Have you been smoking "bob hope" ;)
PaulRFC

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Was he not a celtic fan?

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Get help!

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Do any of you even know what this song is really about?

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24 Feb 2012 00:02:43
I think the Rangers fans should start copying the Ajax fans and start singing the Bob Marley song 3 little bird. The words are true " Dont worry about a thing, Coz every little things going to be all righ" Great words and they should blast it over the tannoy at Ibrox after Penny Arcade. WE WILL come out of this bigger and better than we have ever been. To all my fellow Blue noses, keep the chins up guys and lets get behind the team whoever is wearing the royal blue.
If the other mob can steal songs and stupid dances with their backs turned from other clubs then so can we.

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Would have thought

Always Look on the Bright Side of Life - - da da etc

lighten the mood a bit;-)

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23 Feb 2012 23:50:30
Apparently it was murray who advised whyte to go to ticketus. You couldn't make it up

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Something I have believed from the start. Sdm is behind this more than people think.

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23 Feb 2012 23:45:02
off topic, i know, but does anyone have BTvision?
i got it put in today and there's an annoying commentary of any program im watching whenever i go onto tv guide, or bt vision etc....any way to stop this?


taco

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Is it archie macpherson ?

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I've got bt vision... Got the espn an sky sports one an two... Ma contracts up in two month an am getting sky coz it's p!sh (documentaries are good) an UFC144 is on espn saturday nite but sky give ya espn also so it's a no brainer. PaulRFC

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Lol! no, it's not auld archie, but his 'woooooooft' would be much more pleasing on the ear than this annoying bint!


taco

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An what's this "got it put in" they charge extra for that... Can ya no plug a box in an follow on screen instructions... No wonder ya don't go to parkshed man - you wouldn't find your way home by the sound of things! (boom boom). PaulRFC

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Espn is a tenner with sky though paul, thats one of the reasons i ditched it. sky+HD £62, bt phone, broadband and telly £52. i know i'm losing hd and a shed load of channels, but i only ever watch about 6 or 7 channels anyway.
i did put it in myself....but your right, i do have trouble finding my way home....esp on saturday night!


taco

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I'm 54£ a month but that's only coz my other contract ran down an I managed to blag the gold package espn (paid one of charge for that ages ago) sky sports 1,2.. Free music for herself.. Basically everything for 54£ (except box office).. I thought that was dear... Sure I seen good sky deals.. Maybe I won't go sky then coz I dont watch many channels either an ain't paying 65£ month. PaulRFC
You must have updated one ! Lol my one don't speak to me!

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A spoke to a guy working for sky n he told me the best way to get a good price is to phone them up & say your canceling he also said do it on a friday i done it and got espn docs ect for £32 for 6 months its just went up to £42 before crimbo

wr_86_rfc

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Archie Macpherson ''He's gonna let fly wooooft"

BigBear

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Taco, good to see you came here for help first from your true friends.

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Dont touch bt with a bargepole i sent mine back a day after cause it was pants , go with virgin, broadband best around, mind u the vito box takes a while to get used to menus after menus... craig+babybear

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You mean tivo?

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Aye tivo im a plum ;)craig+babybear

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