Rangers Banter Archive August 24 2012

 

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24 Aug 2012 22:34:07
first time on here ,and want to let you know a little secret ,it was the best day of my life rangers went to div 3 {Ed039's Note - What happened that day, did your parents remove the security settings from the laptop and you seen boobies for the first time?)

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Op.did it beat the day you found out you were a cross dresser lol mummy wouldnt have been pleased lol doug t.s.o

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I'm 81years old...the best day of my sporting life was when we beat celtic 8-1 at Ibrox. watp.

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Op.I am genuinely happy for you! Really I am! It must have been such a joyous occasion that day when Rangers went to Div 3.
Was it really the best day of your life? Has nothing ever happened in your time in this world that could better the day when Rangers went to Div 3?
If not,you must have led a very sheltered life!
I think I have deduced your little secret- are you possibly a Celtic supporter?
Go away & support your team, obsess about your own club as I do about mine!

You are a perfect candidate for this question- Why are Celtic fans so interested in a club in Div 3? Have you not got bigger & better things to concern yourselves with? Maybe Champions League qualification perhaps? What if Helsingborgs get their shooting boots on the 2nd leg? Judging by the 1st leg, if they do, its not a foregone conclusion!

I suggest you support your club & leave us lower league clubs alone to get on with our task.

ThatsNotMyName

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Well my good sir watp i was born 4 years later ,can you rhyme off the team for me ,another chapter in our never to be lost history ,got to tell the truth getting a wee bit pissed now ,had a night off tonight for a change ,but like you i saw what rangers were all about an institution that will never be removed from the history of scotland ,no matter how the others try doug t.so

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Pretty boring life allright,garlar07 {Ed039's Note - Must be bad if even you are admitting it garla lol)

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The OP is as bad as the Greg Wilde poster below, banter is what the page is about, not hatred. I hope scots players who move south do well

Vambo

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I remember that day ed and yes we did see boobies , the tv was full of them on the news rangers players coming and going from murray park {Ed039's Note - Difference between boobies and "tits" my friend)

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Why oh why do some of the darker side support come on the Gers page and drivel some piss we know it's a banter site but banter does not constitute piss included into it we know we are in Div 3 and we will make every effort to get back to the SPL as soon as we can so all I can say to the dark side support I thank you for taken a lot of interest in our great club with a lot of history behind it so to all you sad and lonely dark side lot a big thank you from all of us for taken the time to come on here and shown a lot of interest as your own site must be boring as hell lol

A Ger 4Life

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@2. Do you suffer from dementia?
I don't think that's an officially recorded result is it?
Now October 1957, Celtic 7 Rangers 1 in the league cup final when the sun was splitting the sky is a record. This is the biggest deficit in a British cup final.

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Admit it. the best day of u r life was when rangers won 9in a row

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I,l never forget that day at tannadice when brian laudrup scored with that header to complete 9 in a row ,but also dont forget defeat by kilmarnock at ibrox when wee rino let a cross ball pass him by which ended our quest for 10 in a row which should have been done and dusted doug t.s.o

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No(9)it must be you that has dementia as I see you can't even put your name to the post I take you can't remeber or you have just forgotten it altogether Lol

A Ger4Life

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Helicopter sunday's, 9 in a row. Those two are hard to beat.

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Ah, the Rangers fan and the reference to 9-in-a-row. It's excruciating, honestly. I'll leave with the words of the greatest Celt in my lifetime, Mr. H Larsson:

"We had to stop them (Rangers) doing nine in a row. If they got ten it would have been a disaster for Celtic fans. Of course, we won the title and stopped them from getting ten, and they remained on nine, which is fine. Celtic had already done nine in a row first. Nobody remembers who does it second".

Here, here, Mr. Larsson.

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Brian laudrup ... did he not play for fiorentina as well ?? bit of a jinx if you ask me

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24 Aug 2012 21:55:49
Nice to see Greg WYlde " not" getting a game at Bolton, i do wish you all the worst in the future, your loyalty or lack of it will never be forgotten. {Ed039's Note - Are you kidding, Wylde took voluntary redundancy from Rangers before liquidation you prat, this saved jobs for the folk in the background and helped Rangers get through to the end of last season. Greg Wylde is a legend in my eyes, people on a normal wage would have lost their jobs if Wylde hadnt taken redundancy and players didnt take a pay cut)

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Agreed Ed, couldn't believe numpty's comments....

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Hi ed 39 have you ever noticed the really nasty posters dont put their name to posts ,forgot to tell you the couple i took to east stirlingshire game came over from sweden wait for it his 2nd name is larsson we went into gers shop for gers shirt and i was trying to coax him to put his name on it lol doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - When I was about 14/15 me and my mates tried to get one of the boys to go into Bairds wi his Rangers top on by saying the punters would give him money, he was up for it but we stopped it lol)

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Voluntary redundancy ?? you mean bolted without taken a pay cut {Ed039's Note - So would you rather he stayed and players didnt take a pay cut so we couldnt see out last season. Ungrateful nark)

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I went into bairds to pick my ex wife up and her pal 1 night and even although she was a tim she said shed never been in a more clattier pub then again she used to come with me to gers games and she loved 9 in a row celebrations at ibrox and the pies ps she wasnt fat lol doug t.s.o

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Some idiuts on here ed players like greg wylde didnt really want to leave .stated at time he left to keep catering staff etc in a job and us from folding.naismith whittaker etc different story {Ed039's Note - Eaxactly)

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I can only think that ed39 is having some sordid affair with Greg wylde to stick up for him in this way. He did not save jobs , he was only thinking about himself and i for one will never forgive him , Naismith and Ness. Ed39, you have really dropped in my estimations {Ed039's Note - My opinion and yours differ, does your estimation of people drop evrytime that happens as you would have very little friends if it did)

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Ed39 , you are an idiot if you think Greg wylde took voluntary redundancy to help save jobs He did it because he is self centered and disloyal . He no more cared about saving jobs than i care about the price of potatoes.Any true Rangers fan will never forgive the likes of him. When he was touting for a transfer the previous seasonwas that to save jobs as well? I hope he never gets a game at Bolton and the same goes for Ness at stoke . Please dont post this unless you are willing to divulge your sordid affair with " the wylde man" {Ed039's Note - You felt so strongly you had to post twice?)

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Ed i have to agree with poster 3 i was a big fan of wylde but i really dont think he took redundancy for the sake of the club. i personally think he had already lined up his move to Bolton his move was purely self preservation (which is not wrong he has to do whats best for him) what is wrong is claiming he moved for the sake of saving peoples jobs if for instance he was carrying a long term injury and had no prospect of a club picking him up for a few months i think he would have stayed at ibrox and done one with the likes of Davis Naismith etc

Lochaber Bear

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@4 hope you put yourself through the nearest Sheep dip once you cames out

Lochaber bear

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Depends on circumstance. if he walked away with no pay,or severance,then credit to him.but then again if he'd stayed,we may have gotten a transfer fee for him.though that wasnt guaranteed,as per naysmith,whitaker etc. to me these guys shouldve transfered to newco,let us get a few million for them.it woulve still been cut price,but we'd have got something.i feel more betrayed by younger guys like ness,fleck,mccabe who coulve stayed,when we stuck by them,through injuries etc.doubt they'l be welcome at ibrox anytime soon.they couldve been legends.by the time we are bak winning titles and in europe,they'd have still been young enough to go to bigger clubs than they've gone to now , down south

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Ed39 , with reference to previous posts, nice to see you going public with your wee sordid secret about your affair with a Boton squad player( cant quite remember his name) {Ed039's Note - I can see your IP address man, looks like you are pretty obsessed after your 3rd post?? Are you so upset he left and wont be on next seasons calander?)

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Poster 9 i never sat down ,was her pals idea of going in there ,headed to asda for 2 tubs of vanish after that ,it removes everything lol doug t.s.o

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12 remove's everything, that include your brain. Grow up.
Tam

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No 13 you dont need to worry about that you dont have 1 to remove doug t.s.o

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Dont worry doug we have all picked your ex wife up at beards bar at some point

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No 15 your welcome to her ,+ you stick to monteith row and glasgow green ,in your area and your type of birds hang about there ,make sure youve got money in your pocket lol doug t.s.o

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Oops no 15 forgot to mention half the birds in there have got beards lol im peeing myself now lol doug t.s.o

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24 Aug 2012 20:04:16
BBC Scotland can reveal that a Dubai-based businessman is currently the single largest shareholder in Rangers.

Arif Naqvi, chief executive of private equity firm Abraaj Capital, owns just under 18% after agreeing to invest £2m back in June.

Naqvi is the man behind Blue Pitch Holdings, but BBC Scotland understands that he has a personal holding in the club.

Rangers boss Ally McCoist also owns a stake in the club.

Newcastle owner Mike Ashley is expected to announce his £1m investment next week, securing around 9% of the club.

The way was paved for that investment after Rangers ripped up their deal with retailers JJB Sports in favour of Ashley's Sports Direct company.

Charles Green took control of the club on 14 June, announcing his intention to secure a number of investors from across the globe.

He has always insisted that no one individual will own more than 15%.

Other investors include Imran Ahmad and Richard Hughes, from Zeus Capital, who own 9.8% each,

Gers boss McCoist has also bought into the consortium and owns a share of about 4.5%.

Scottish-based businessman Ian Hart, who was part of the Blue Knights group, has a shareholding of 1.3%.

The shares will be diluted, though, after Green launches an IPO share issue allowing fans to buy into the club.

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Whit about Bombers forty grand? {Ed039's Note - What about it?)

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So Green lied?

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No 2 would you knock back an extra 300,000 if offered ? doug t.s.o

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Must be right if BBC Scotland report it?

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Green said nobody would own more than 15% but he sold 18% to the Dubai guy.
So Ally's working for a year for 4.5%? Or £500k?
Everybody's shares become paper shares once rights issue happens and fans dilute it all down and Green goes live with his exit strategy.

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Amazed at the lack of responses to this important information about ownership. Player Manager is one thing but Owner manager is quite another. It seems another tax saving route is being employed following the managers part in ebt. He will pay less capital gains tax than he would if paid in full as employee, albeit Green won't have wanted to pay his full original salary. So when Green exits and gloats shares for the £100m value, ally pockets £4.5m (before tax.....or is that after tax). More importantly is the single 18% shareholder not also in control of blue pitch share making his overall ultimate controlling total more than 30%? Who controls this Rangers company, its not Green, he is just the board rep. {Ed039's Note - What? Is Ally not allowed to invest?? There is nothing to discuss as far as I am concerned)

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Listing gers shares on aim will cost £10million, and 50% of aim floats last year went titsup, its a great way to stuff fans, even murray did not try that route...

but seems green an angel and fans will go for it....

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Had a laugh last week when it was reported Ally had "dug deep into his pocket" to buy his boys season tickets now this week he's a shareholder What happened a wee lottery win ?

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Ed, you miss the point on Ally. Rangers will be only team in any of the professional British leagues where the owner does pick the team.. Its a potential conflict of interest: Short term financial gain versus building a youth led squad with balanced books. {Ed039's Note - I think you will find plenty of owners who pick the team, look at mad vlad, I think you are reading too much into it)

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How long before the conspiracy theorist come up with a convuluted 7 degrees of seperation link to mr craig whytee bet you the celtic boys are fevrrishly doing the due diligence as we watch

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24 Aug 2012 15:05:17
hi ed, how can i best get a txt i reced on to this page, can u please advise, boyblue. its with regards to gers ebt fine !! {Ed039's Note - Depending on the kind of phone you have you mght be able to copy and paste it and then post it, if not the old fashioned and longer way, just read it and type it into your laptop)

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So r u putting up your news bud?

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24 Aug 2012 19:13:50
Is anybody else sick and tired of these timmies trying to tell us we have no history and we are a new club blah blah blah?

I'e been too many a Old Firm games and I hated seeing the Celtic fans celebrate in euphoria when they scored against us. Now, are these clowns trying to tell us that in any future Old Firm game they won't celebrate a goal in the same manner as we are a "new club"?.....I think not!!

TTG

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I'm not a 'timmy' and you have history: a few weeks' history. Happy?

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Haha I'm loving it tbh, let them feel top dog for a year or two till we show em who's boss again. :)

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LOL. I would just ignore them mate, they are desperate for us to fade away and take our history from us but hey know it will never happen. We are Rangers and will always be Rangers. Nobody can or ever will take that away from us. Scotlands most successful club no matter what these idiots try and tell us.

Rangers1

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Since according to them we are a newco they will have no interest in visiting Ibrox should we have to play them. I hope they only get the corner like all other visiting supporters.

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It dosent bother me one bit i know who my club is its the same club iv supported since i was a boy.The thing is this is all they have got to try and wind us up but to me it just show how jelous they are of us after all we are world record holders the most sucessful team in the world can they say that.celtic are the second best team in scotland and thats the way its always going to be.theres a few things id like to say about them but cant post them here.WE ARE RANGERS AND ALWAYS WILL BE.54 AND COUNTING WATP
TRUEBLUE

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We will celebrate getting one over your fans as far as the old firm is concerned its gone and will never be the same

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Trueblue; "a few things you would like to say but cant post here" Very interesting.I think we could guess.

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I think all rangers fans can guess
trueblue

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That has to be the best reason for trying to state it's the same rangers with the same history; that Celtic fans will erupt when they score against Newco rangers. Lol. Guess its up to the Celtic fans then? Lol

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@9. or the little fact uefa ranks the rangers higher in the rankings than celtic...mark.

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@10: that's the ranking based on the last four years of the previous incarnation of your club - didn't you know that?

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24 Aug 2012 19:11:03
Not transfer related, but funny as hell. Ki Sung Yeung on his move to Swansea City for £6 Million:
He said: “This is a dream move for me and it will be an honour to play in England."
Last time I checked Swansea was in Wales. HA HA HA!!
WATP Stevemac {Ed039's Note - Do they not play in England though ......... as in The English Premiership?)

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So not funny as hell after all.

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Well home games are in Wales are they not? {Ed039's Note - Yes but is he not getting the opportunity to play in England?)

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This guy quit euro football to be whipping boys, the worlds gone mad.

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On away game yes.

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So it will be an honour for him to play away ties then, disrespectful to Swansea's home support.

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Catherine zeta jones is from wales and i.d do,her {Ed039's Note - But she only does guys the same age as as our very own regular poster, doug t.s.o. Sorry Doug I couldnt resist :-)

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Any move away from towers has to be good for a player

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6 million quid thou ... what could yous do with that money eh ?? thats enough to buy your assets

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Ed 39 gies her number lol sod michael ,ahl even sing like tom jones ,his hit song the green green grass of charlies home lol doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - 0845 golddigga i think should do it Doug)

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Number 3, six euro defeats or epl, epl all day long.

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Hi ed 39 is it not gold finger lol would put a smile on her face doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - FFS Doug, your 107 years old you pervert)

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@10 pity you didn't have that attitude when Naismith,Whitaker. Davis and wylde bolted.....3rd division with a new club or epl? mmmm.....

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Doug she dos,nt wash you would not like her,garlar07

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I attract the women in their 30 s lol think of sean connery / willie miller graham souness and jocky scott even walter mistook me for jocky at a night out lol but ive got something else that women love size 11 feet lol doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - Too much info Doug, now all I can see is some dodgy looking German type guy wi a big handle bar moustache)

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Hi garla im on a cholestrol diet right now so im used to the smell of fish lol doug t.s.o

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Well got ww1 german battleship flag in the house ,im from norn ireland /dutch /scottish ancestory ,tache is trimmed down now sooooooooooo nessssssssss lol doug t.s.o

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@doug very good lol,i only smell fish on a friday lol,wife calls it f****n friday lol,can i call myself that ed,garlar07 {Ed039's Note - This one gets let slide because it's banter)

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@16 norn iron hi,dutch scot.s dodgey mix lol is your name doug van hire,do you know gilford van hire, any relation,garlar07

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Hi garlar salford van hire lol ,dutch name was horne beep beep ,irish 1 connor my name guess ?lol ps.its not lennon lol doug t.s.o

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18 too near neils house gilford lol doug t.s.o

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Ah lurgan doug strange town allright,garlar07

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Hi ed do you have a dish called champ in scotland go,s lovely with a bit of fish on a friday or can i not say champ(s) on this page lol garlar07 {Ed039's Note - Of course you can, doesnt matter what you say, but we have sang we are the champions more times than you)

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Ah so true ed just been told that lol garlar07

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Me and ed 39 are getting an invite to tea at garlar house on friday fish done in milk we dont want a sweet cos your jelly oot of date lol doug t.s.o

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24 Aug 2012 17:04:02
I think now is the perfect time to start blooding the youngsters. I don t just mean one or two getting the odd game. Not keen on Ally' s policy of signing foreigners, when the young guys should get a chance. If they get 3 years in the lower divs, can only be positive for future-at least 3 years before I get accused of being arrogant. On a further note, no matter what we think of Celtic, I have to admit they have certainly got their signing policy right over last few years. Fair enough they bought loads of diddies, but the likes of Ki leaving etc, they are doing something right. We need to do something similar.

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The real point most of my fellow gers mates dont realise is we dont have many youth players left, check out the RFC site, Murray park has lacked funds for years.
but the only way is up as Yazz once said.

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There are still enough youth players, but more importantly several of top quality. If you like Barrie McKay, wait until you see what's coming through!

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Post 2; if they are so great why do celtic dominate the youth leagues?

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Obviously you know nothing about youth development. It's not about creating a youth team to win a youth league, it's all about the one or two players a year that can be brought into the first team. Of course, in Celtic's case, they probably come from Korea.........

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Celtic win the youth leagues every year, in fact they run away with it. So I think the faith in rangers youth is misplaced to simply offer some positiveness.

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If celtic youths are so good, why very few- if any- make it into regular first teamers. By your understanding, all Scottish youth players are poor.

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Maybe the Rangers youths are 'late bloomers' no 5. Whatever, they should be given a chance now. There are no excuses for not playing them, while we are in bottom league. How are they meant to develop if all they see are high paid foreigners in their place. Should change the rule so it is 3 under 21s starting as opposed to being on bench. Invest in the future Gers, learn lessons from our previous signing exploits.

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@6) Aiden McGeady, Young Forrest and today Tony Watt.....also the young lad that went down to Chelsea.... Just to name a few.....many others Celtic sold on...

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24 Aug 2012 16:59:06
After today's reports that lance armstrong will be stripped of his tour de France titles,I have decided to call myself 'The lance Armstrong' I'm going to buy his old bikes,claim his titles and demand entry into next years tour......if anyone objects I will call them a bigot!

Briggs

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Lol, That must have taken you a while to think that one up ye halfwit! Go back tae yer own page and leave us in peace.

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There is more to this case than you think, I believe Lance gave up the case cause it cost to much money, ever tried fighting a government, dont believe the mainstream media.

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Briggs you know know 'old' Rangers were called The Rangers as well? So you didn't need to put The in front of his name.

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Briggs. drugs or,not if u were lance amstrong. u wud have a bum like pam ayres tongue.

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@1: actually quite witty if you have a sense of humour.

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@1 Ha ha got you rattled ya clown! That's what its all about eh? You tell me where it says I'm not allowed to post on this site and I will stop.

Briggs the halfwit haw! haw!

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How about you actually buy a ticket and go and watch your team play football, instead of sitting indoors on your computer.

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@7: how's you know he doesn't go to matches?

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@7. Another rattled bear! jeez you guys are are easy prey! Got my ticket for Wednesday night thanks for asking!

Briggs

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Didn`t have one for last Tuesday though did you. {Ed039's Note - In Sweden?)

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Hi briggsy you available for thursday night too ? lol doug t.s.o

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Hi briggsy you wouldnt happen to be a man of the cloth by any chance ,bishop briggs lol doug t.s.o {Ed039's Note - Tumble weed .......................)

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What's happening Thursday night Doug? I'm happily married and straight by the way!

Briggs {Ed039's Note - Nobody asked Briggs but thanks for letting us know)

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Of course nowadays men of the cloth can get married ,im straight too and happily divorced lol ,on thursday night i will zoom down the m8 from junction 26 and watch my favourite team put another nail into falkirks box , can you be tempted ,you could disguise yourself with a craig whyte lookalike mask then you would be safe lol doug t.s.o

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Hey Ed wasn't sure why Doug was asking if I was available thursday night thought I'd lay my cards on the table right away,save any awkward moments lol

Briggs

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Are you kidding? I mean Celtic park for a big champions league qualifier one night then the next night a big eh..... What cup is it? My nerves couldn't handle that! Anyways I thought You were going to have sell outs till the end of the season? If that's to be believed then I wouldnt be able to get a ticket! Lol

Briggs

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Hi briggsy thought youd go for 2 in row wed and thurs my limits snap at cards and scabby queen ,no a gambler but my ex was john banks cousin he had a yellow rolls and id a hillman imp lol doug t.so

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24 Aug 2012 16:43:10
Stoke agree fee for mo edu.

Source sly sports

Good luck mo

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He would get found out in the championship never mind in the epl, stoke on the downfall.

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Walter Smith signed Edu in 2008 and he won three SPL medals whilst on EBTs, with Walter also.....will he hand his medals back?

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24 Aug 2012 15:35:01
I am fed up reading negative posts beck and forward between our fans on here and idiot timmy fans with nothing better to do. I for one am glad they did well I dont want to come back to SPL n a year or 2/3 and wehave to play in pre pre qualification for Champs League , it is hard enough as it is getting in, Sweden are a better country than us at present and they beat a team AWAY when we couldnt beat Malmo over 2 legs. I am really only interested in MY team in here Gers not constant history,tax case, cw fraud,div 3 sevco,celtic not buying players ... WHO THE F**K CARES, RANGERS are alive and still playing thats Rangers FC the Rangers Fc WHATEVER still the Gers and I am just happy we have taken our punishment paid some of debts LOST fortunes out SPL nd Europe BUT still in Blue , same badge (stars ? dont care)at IBROX and 50000 fans showing we are NOT facing 20000 crowds and going bust again (as constantly predicted since summers start) ...I only want to see our team win play well and come back to challenge Celtic in 2/3 years a NEW era and with a little luck and more signings in a years time maybe beat Celtic and reclaim the SPL... to do that IF we can will be the GREATEST achievement in my lifetime bearing in mind we are lucky to even still exist, so timmy and the bitter bears ... can you lot concentrate on fact we are here and be happy as EVERY tim and besr I have met is desperate for the OLD FIRM derbies again the league means nothing except europe until then... Bear or Life... george

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Couldnt have summed it up any better mate great post exactly how i feel i couldnt care less what we are called still in blue play at ibrox,alwayss be rangers to me and on the subject of celtic well....ah a dont care!

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Great post.

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Good post,see you in a few years when you get into the top league

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I agree George, its like the primary school playground at times on here, as for fellow bears moaning about small stuff, short memories, we are lucky to have a team on the park to support at all

JG

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Fed up with negative posts then goes in to call Celtic fans idiots not really ghandi are you

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Ghandi's dead. u fud

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@6: so's Rangers ;)

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Lol 7,no witty come back 6?

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Sos goosy goosy too doug t.s.o

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@6. No im not. CheltBlue (Ghandi)

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24 Aug 2012 15:19:44
Not a rumour, just a thought;

Would the turncoats have left if Walter was still in charge, considering he signed most of them?

I've heard rumours that Ally isn't exactly every player's up of tea (Matt McKay was promised 1st team action and never got it, then had a bit of a dig when he left).

If this is true then I imagine that the exited (or should that be exiled?!) players may not have said anything considering Ally seems to be bigger that the club.

... I should add I am a fan of McCoist, and I hope he can take us up the leagues. (although I do have doubts :-/ )

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Smith was never going to be on the scene when the truth came out; he's far too clever for that. They don't call him the silver fox for nothing.
You'll no hear or see Smith now because the truth about his EBT's are about to come out.
When he was at Everton, Scotland Manager, Asst Manager @ Man U.
Would suggest that the financial corruption was occurring when he matched Celtic's 9IAR.
Anything significant in Rangers history happened when he was there and the truth is about to come out about the level of corruption!

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Many players seem to cite McCoist as one of the lures when signing for Rangers.

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Whats all this with the turncoat crap,they were offered better deals playing in better leagues and yes getting paid handsomely is always nice to.this doesnt mean they abandonned us they saw an opportunity to go and play elsewhere as do many players the world over,does that mean say van persie was a traitor know he wanted to go and play for a club that might match his ambitions,or are we to naive to believe that people have the right to go on and try to better themselves players move on in every transfer window sorry guys but thats life,anyway a reasonable start to the season bears lets hope we get motoring throgh the leagues soon and back to the top again.

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24 Aug 2012 14:45:31
Clyde v Rangers (27 Oct) will now take place on Sunday 28th October, Kick-off 12.45pm (Live on Sky Sports)

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24 Aug 2012 14:07:24
Wont get a Ticket for Berwick so does anyone know the kick off time for the youth cup 1st round at Ibrox on Sunday? £4 at the gates lads!

Larky Bear

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The man just asked a question why in gods name would anyone hit disagree.complete madness!!anyway not to sure mate if I hear anything il post it

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1 o clock mate
Lee

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24 Aug 2012 13:43:52
Let's make this clear; there is no such thing as a "holding company" where Rangers 1872 are concerned.
Rangers became a limited company in 1899, the club became the company . . . UEFA operate under FIFA regulations and the world governing body is quite clear on this.

FIFA consider liquidation to be the death of a football club.

Further Uefa state, "Article 12 "Definition of a licence applicant" is probably germane to what the chap calling into Clyde about.

Specifically 12.1 is well worth a read.

"A licence applicant may only be a football club, i.e. a legal entity responsible for a football team participating in national and international competitions which either:

a)      Is a registered member of a UEFA  member association and/or its affiliated league (hereinafter : registered member); or

b)      Has a contractual relationship with a registered member (hereinafter: football company)."

Bears need only look at the fact that the overwhelming majority of Scottish Football recognised Sevco's Ibrox franchise as a brand new football club and opted to place them where brand new football clubs start.
Players walked when liquidation acted as termination of their contracts; UEFA will not allow a new football club to participate in its competitions until such a time as it has 3 consecutive years of financial accounts.
Bears will console themselves and hold onto anything that would say otherwise but the nature of the beast is that decades of financial doping and corruption led to administration which led to a failed CVA which then confirmed that the club founded in 1872 would play its last game in 2012 due to liquidation.

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So sick of these bloody posts jesus christ Ed please no more any Real Rangers fan knows that its a New Club use Tims are just gutted that we wont let the history die no matter how many times u copy & paste these stupid things its a Newco to you but if u go watch us play and listen to the fans ul know its the same Rangers and yes we will be back in the SPL & Europe a few years time we will get our 1st title & it will be oh so much sweeter now than 55 ever would have been!

Larky Bear

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ - Yet again some poor, deluded buffoon from the other side desperately trying to 'kill' us off instead of worrying about his own lot (what a Saddo, probably spending his time trawling about Rangers when others are out with girls or their pals). But for HIS benefit let me explain what he can't seem to read (assuming of course that his quotations are correct for a moment).
Point a) Rangers membership was TRANSFERRED over to Charles Green et al.
b) UEFA's European ban relates to ANY club who has failed to post 3 consecutive years accounts - Rangers knew the Euro ban would be in place long before the CVA was rejected so bang goes that argument and c) just because all you lot and other so-called fans of other clubs WISH Rangers to be a brand new football club DOESN'T mean it is...........

Next time you wish to post dross at least have the good grace to digest the contents first eh!!!!

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I have been coming on here for some time now and can easily say that is one of the worst posts i have read, WTF is your point and why do you have an overwhelming obsession with Rangers

JG

JG

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"look at the fact that the overwhelming majority". Right so mass opinion means fact does it? Thats interesting, who is the sheep now eh? This argument has been done to death, your obsession will only make it that much better when Rangers win title number 55.

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I think the author of this post has what is medically known as Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. He / she clearly is obsessing about all things Rangers. I think the medical solution is called "get a life". Alternatively, why not join us and become a Bear. You nearly are anyway. 140 years and counting !

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@1: how's you know the OP is a Celtic fan?

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History is in the eye of the beholder mate, you may have read the poem in which six blind men are each touching an elephant, trying to figure out what, exactly the creature is. One touches its side and says it's like a wall; one touches the tusk and says it's like a spear; the next touches the trunk and believes it's like a snake...and the list goes on. My point is that we all see things a little differently based on our perspectives, our biases, our experiences, and whatever else has shaped us into the beings we are.

So OP your welcome to your opinion, but forgive me if I tell you your opinion is a lot of p!sh.

Wise auld Bear {Ed039's Note - Weird anlaysis)

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Poor timmy just can't handle it. The fact he is using the UEFA website as the main vocal point of his argument suggests he is totally gutted that our great club's history shall continue.

RANGERS ALWAYS. RANGERS FOREVER.

TTG

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I bet you're a scream at parties...boring k_n_o_b. Go and obsess yourself with your own team on their pages, mind you, you'd probably bore the t*ts off them as well.

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@2: just as well the membership wasn't transferred to Spartans as by the logic of some Rangers fans, they'd now have the most league titles.

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@5: sorry, not even 140 days yet ;)

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@9: great banter: if you don't like something, just be abusive. Well done.

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@8: just like you can't handle the possibility they might be right, like they were with admin and liquidation?

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Tims are annoying me so I'm gonna get them back......140yrs and counting,55 and counting when we win the 3rd division,WR for titles,cups,trophies won.WR attendances. WATP. Onwards & Upwards.

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@14: 55? Adding a bonus one now? {Ed039's Note - That might be the title we were "cheated" out of so we have decided we will do everything to claim if for ourselves)

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Why are the rangers in the 3rd division then? Surley if it was the same team they would still be in the spl. Or worst case relegated to first division. It's a new team with only a few weeks history. But that's only opinion. I'm sure all rangers fans will say its the same club and all non rangers will say it isn't. In winnable argument. Best just to believe what you personally feel and ignore others. The fact most of you bite will mean other fans will always come on here to noise you up. Best just ignored or press disagree and move on.

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Did dundee not get your spl share so do they not get half your history ? that makes them as moch rangers as sevco {Ed039's Note - How do you get half of somones history??? What a numpty)

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Football clubs own memberships of associations and leagues. Old rangers club lost its membership of SPL and of SFA.
New rangers football club applied for the old clubs SPL membership and didn't get it, that went to Dundee. New rangers then applied to SFA for the old clubs membership and did a deal on entry requirements to get that membership.
If it was the same football club it would have always had its memberships and not needed to try and transfer them to a new club.
Football clubs have memberships NOT holding companies. And new rangers club had no memberships.

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Well said 14.) They're starting to bite!!

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It's obviously a new football club.
And stop saying its only timmies that don't accept your point. Nobody in Scotland accepts its the same club but some Rangers fans. I'm a Hearts fan and I don't accept it.

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Poster 20 something like your owner doesnt accept managers lol f-cks sake think youve got enough probs in gorgie without coming on here doug t.s.o

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Sorry, you're right #20. It's not just 'timmies'. Some idiots are hearts fans.

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24 Aug 2012 13:40:49
Rumours starting to circulate that should the SPL find Rangers guilty of illegally using EBTs then the SPL will look to fine the club monies awarded for their league finishes rather than strip them of titles.

The SPL on the brink of insolvency themselves due to the estimated loss upwards of £17m for the renegotiated SKY and ESPN tv deals. The SPLs financial demise can be seen by the failure to pay clubs the money they are owed prior to the start of season.

Therefore by fining Rangers possibly more than £15m the SPL could balance their own books and ensure the league is financially safe until Rangers return to league and monies from the tv deals etc will now doubt increase.

Although many feel Rangers do not have a case to answer regarding the EBTs, If this were to be true it once again shows lengths SPL are willing to go to stuff their pockets with cash from the Rangers after they excluded us from their league.

eBear

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Can't be done - can strip titles from oldco, but can't apply fines to newco.

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If they go to fine the newco, they will also look to strip titles from the oldco, as 'Sporting Integrity' is not maintained without the punishment of both institutions. Since the newco does not seem to have any rights to the benefits of the oldco or the history this may seem grossly unfair.
However, under SPL rules it clearly states they can make it up as they go along, and without justification punish some clubs new and/or old more than others.

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The SPL did not exclude you from the league - the old club more than anyone else to do that. Doncaster tried his best to get the new club into the SPL.

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Charles Green said hed pay any footballing relating fines in order to get Rangers1872 membership transferred to The Rangers.
Maybe he hasn't thought this far ahead?
Wee Charlie could have even more on his shoulders after Ticketus turning the heat up after the initial sluggish season ticket sales.

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Good luck getting the money, the SPL no longer have any power to do anything to Rangers.

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Have the SPL payed Dundee/United monies they are due from Rangers monies withheld from last year pot went very quiet on that one.

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Strip them league moneys ? the 3rd get paid in cans of irn bru how many cans would the fine be ??

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They can't fine the club or strip them of titles.

TTG

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@8: evidence they can't strip titles please? Wasn't it widely reported that one of the sanctions available IS the stripping of titles?

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@2, Nearly fell off ma chair! Word is Jedward and Boris Johnson are employed by the SPL in advisory role!

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Rangers primary website has no details of any of Rangers SPL games, ever!

So while the SPL have no hold over Rangers, you can report any games, and soon any wins either.

no history allowed - game details all owned by SPL - who wont let newco show them.....

so SPL does have hold over newco.

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Doubt that a15m fine would or could be imposed. Although if charles green is determined to push the we are the same rangers then I suppose he will be liable to any fines or sanctions imposed. These daft rumours tend to start on ****ter then end up being believed as fact.

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#11 - lol. The fact that we don't have the right to show games is very different from "we never played those games". Go read up on how businesses work. SPL, or whoever, owns the footage. Rangers/Celtic/every SPL team - past or present - pays for the right to show the SPL's footage of their club. {Ed039's Note - Correct. I have said this on here a few times. Some folk dont want to listen)

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The new Rangers football club under green accepted future punishments against oldco on EBT issue as entry requirement to sfl3.
The judge and QCs can strip titles. Award them rightfully to second place, fine Newco to repay the SPL cheated prizemonies over 12 years( first and second place prizemonies)....... And so it goes on.

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24 Aug 2012 13:36:54
Posts sniping about the Helsinki score and knocking the coefficient, jibes about Celtic selling a player, it sounds all very desperate.

Are the realites of football finally getting through to you?

Three seasons with no passport requirement, a UEFA ranking beckoning that will find the mighty BK Hacken ahead of you and to add insult to injury Celtic can sell a player for more than Rangers were bought for.

I think I can hear the clunking of small coinage in the Ibrox area.

Michael Exadurating Laudrup

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Atleast we try and have a dig at Celtic fans about FOOTBALL on the park and the fact that some of your players have found in the last six months, the urge to seek a more competitive league.

That clunking you hear is Thommo dropping the Spl trophy because he knows its now worthless without Rangers to beat......Enjoy your season.

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Winning the spl still gives the opertunity to play in the cl. So hardly worthless. Rangers fans will deny it buy they'd much rather be in the spl and playing in cl.

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"a UEFA ranking beckoning that will find the mighty BK Hacken ahead of you"
Lol, so that means the mighty BK Hacken will be about 20 places ahead of glorious Celtic then? We still have a higher coefficient than you and are about 15 places above you in the coefficient table.
Even though we play part-timers, we are still a more successful club than Celtic will ever be.
You might as well ditch your passport as well, since judging Celtic's previous European 'adventures', you'll not get futher than the first round for the next 4 seasons... {Ed039's Note - Are UEFA co=efficients not based on the basis of a country and not club basis)

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Ed039 - UEFA has a club ranking as well as country. I don't think it's important other than for pride though

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@3, sadly you ignored or don't understand the word beckoning, Rangers current rating for 2016 sees them sit in 194th place in UEFA's rankings. Bear in mind this will go up by only the Scottish co-efficient for the next three years. Currently a meagre 0.16. If that remains the same and lets face it if it is going in any direction it may well be downwards then that means Rangers for the next three seasons will earn 0.48. Your first season back should see Rangers rating in the 15's followed swiftly by a 2 (pending their vital first season back in Europe). Hacken will be fortified by the fact that Sweden's rating is higher than Scotland so I see that continuing if not becoming wider a gulf. "First round for next 4 seasons" As in what CL group stages etc? You did hear Tuesday's result yes?

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24 Aug 2012 12:58:57
SPL make belated payment to clubs

The Scottish Premier League have paid delayed broadcasting and sponsorship it owed to the 12 member clubs. Around £350,000 will reach each club’s bank account today. Normally they would receive £700,000 at this stage but the reduction in TV money and the fact that the SPL is still waiting on all of its commercial income means they must settle for half the usual sum for now. (Herald)

Carling1873

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Who do you think was the best michael or brian ,why dont we put the question to jim white ,exclusive why are the both of you so good lol doug t.s.o

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24 Aug 2012 12:33:48
Serious question . SFL3 teams are only allowed to register 22 players, including loanees, aged 21 or over .Obviously management will take cognisance of this in their signing policy. Can anyone tell me how close Rangers are to reaching this total, given that every day posters are telling us of another experienced pro who has signed ?

Paddy Malarkey

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Dont know but your lot are infatuated with anything rangers so why dont you tell us?!!

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@1: who's his lot?

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In case you hadn't seen any of my previous posts, I support the Mighty Jags,tattoo and all. Might be that if you fall foul of this regulation that you would be playing players you shouldn't and we all know you don't do accepting punishment because it's all based on HATE-FACT ! Look forward to seeing you in the big boys' league SFL1 .

Paddy Malarkey

PS Anybody got the numbers ?

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What happens if player injured ? cant sign more due to ban..?

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@4: exactly. Or if other clubs sign the players in January.

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24 Aug 2012 12:30:02
where do septic fans get this idea the new club does not inherit there historical titles, trophies. It has been confirmed time and again, the deal that was done,with the league, states the newco would inherit the history and titles. I so wish these people would do their research before talking tripe

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Can you point me in the direction to something which confirms this rather than saying the "deal was done"....I can show you a youtube clip of Charles Green explaining that everything is lost if the CVA wasnt approved which I'm sure you are aware wasnt approved. Liquidation was the end of the road, a CVA allowed you to exit administration with everything intact.

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Copy&paste from bbc website.

What happens to the club's history?
The Rangers Football Club PLC is a public limited company registered in Scotland (company number: SC004276) and was incorporated on 27 May, 1899. When the current company is officially liquidated, all of its corporate business history will come to an end.
When this happened to Airdrieonians in 2002, all of the trophies, titles and records associated with the club were discontinued and a new club, Airdrie United FC, took over. Airdrieonians' official history ended in 2002, then Airdrie United's took over.
The answer lies principally in the eye of the beholder. Some supporters will view the new Rangers as the same Rangers, while others will feel the old Rangers no longer exist.

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Lol how does that figure?

A club gets liquidated and a brand new one gets all the good bits?

Don't think so pal.
Charles Green bought a stadium and founded a new club.
Liquidation is the death of a football club!

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Dont be ridiculous.Your history will always be there you just cannot add to it as that club will soon cease to exist.This will all be cleared up when BDO start the full liquidation event.By your logic,Few years ago Aberdeen go into liquidation,Gretna,bankrolled by a wealthy investor,buy their League share etc just like green.Could they claim a Euro win?

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Note to the bright spark who posted about Airdrie.

Airdrieonians ceased to exist. No-one bought them. They died.

Jim Ballantyne formed a company called Airdrie United, bought over Clydebank FC and relocated them to Airdrie.

Airdrie United are a continuation of Clydebank FC.

Like most Celtic fans your lack of knowledge and obsession with bad mouthing Rangers makes you come across as an idiot.

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RANGERS 54 and O

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Charles green didn't buy rangers either. In actual fact nobody did. Charles bought the stadium so very similar to airdrie.

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I don't know why Celtic fans care so much about our titles not continuing. It'll still take them about 20 years to get to 54.
Also, go read more about Airdrieonians. You obviously don't know the story (as #5 correctly told you)...

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So you had to sell your assets change your name change your strip find a new supplier and re apply to the sfa for a licence your not responsible for the tax ... so how come the only thing that was kept was the history ?? ... rubbish your a new club desperately trying to kid your self on {Ed039's Note - Read up on purchasing "goodwill" in an administration/liquidation scenario)

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Note to 5).... Nobody bought Rangers they went into liquidation, soon to be dissolved.
Charles Green didn't buy Rangers Football club, he bought a stadium. The old club is liquidated. If he bought the old club he would need to pay its debts.
Airdrie ceased to exist but just like Ibrox their stadia passed to a new owner, that's not buying and saving a football club. Rangers were not saved.

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24 Aug 2012 10:39:30
celtic having to sell players now and use the money for other aspects of running their club, no new players brought in, apart for a dodgey keeper, nobody wanted, ( yes mr. lawell, can see you can survive without rangers), aberdeen not getting plans passed for new ground, concerns over top level football in aberdeen ( thought they stopped playing football up there years ago ), hearts beaten at home by liverpool reserves, motherwell showing their usual form in europe, ha ha ha, happy days, watp !!

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Celtic pocketing £20M in CL money.

Sky and ESPN didn't walk away, no Armageddon.

Total scaremongering that carried no substance.

Now let's all sit back and watch Rangers 1872 being humiliated further as titles and trophies and stripped, let's all watch BDO unearth the financial corruption that killed Rangers and lets all watch as the truth about Ticketus/Octupus comes out whilst Charlie Green faces the prospect of paying the market value for the stadium and training ground or risks his Sevco outfit being made homeless.

The laughs continue.
The victims of the laughter, "the peepul" of course!!

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Hearts and Motherwell played in europe against decent opposition, they will bring in some much needed cash and it gives the players some european experience, which is more than what rangers will get over the next 3 years.

with or without rangers hearts and motherwell would be expected to lose to both teams but fact that hearts (who also had youth players in there starting line up) gave liverpool a run for their money only shows that the leage is not dead with the new club that models themselves on rangers.

remind me who this new club play next?

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As a rangers fan i think we all (Everyother team included) should stop obsessing over whats going on else where. These digs are getting pathetic now. No need for the OP to be talking about celtic on the Rangers site and no need for Celtic fans to be on our page simples

John1glasgow

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You sir are a disgrace. I great example of why nobody likes your club. Liverpools "reserve" squad cost millions to put togethor and Hearts made a good fist of giving them a game. Celtic have sold a player who was surplus to requirments for a huge profit and bearing in mind there is a week until the transfer window closes they will buy players (not the freebies coming into your club). As for Fraser Foster. He cost two million pounds, almost half what it cost to buy the corpse of your dead club. Thier is s strong ground swell of opinion down south that he be given an England cap. No go enjoy the Ramsden cup you bitter wee man. Me? I hav ejust purchased my tickets for next weeks CHAMPIONS league game.

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As much ad I'd hate to say this is rather be in Celtics position than ours.

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That "dodgy" keeper (the word doesn't have an E in it by the way) made saves midweek that may well earn us £12m, good business for a £2m signing. We sold ONE player for £500,000 more than your entire club went for. Aside from Scottish Cup and League Cup the next draw we will be in will be made in Monaco not Montrose, have fun!
By the way short of the Scottish coefficient going up, by the next time you play European football your rating will be a miserly 15.25 with 12.72 of which dropping that season. Leaving you, wait for it, wait for it, tied in 194th place in Europe with Dundee Utd and at least they have got two years to improve on that. We are the what again?

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Peepul in glass house,s spring to mind talk about being obsessed just be happy to watch Sevco rise

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(celtic) good business
(aberdeen) bdo can still take ibrox
(hearts) deserve it
(motherwell) mccoll. who cares.

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What a silly post, Celtic are on verge of making upwards of £15m from CL as well as £6m for Ki.
Your club are only capable of signing players not wanted elsewhere, get over the jealousy. Neil T

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To watp poster. You really are a fool man. Celtic Reigning CHAMPIONS do not have to sell anyone. Foster is a great keeper. Hearts did very well last night. I agree that Motherwell did not do well. JK PS Enjoy life in Div 3

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Number 1 its went from 12 millon to 15 million and now your telling us its 20 million, Celtic won't get 10 millon never mind 20 million.

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Fraser Forster is a good goalkeeper so give the guy credit. It is good business for Celtic to sell Ki and they will make as you say 15m for CL. It was one of the easier routes to the CL I have seen for clubs in a few years, but they got there and fair play. I just wish all the sacrastic comments from people whio have little intelligence or knowing of fact would stop from all sides. Get behind Scottish Football as a whole and enjoy it, whether it's in the Ramsdens Cup, 3rd div or SPL. It all looks pathetic from the outside I'm sure and frankly its gone on too long. Coisty09

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@11: they will get at least that from qualification, TV money, gate money etc. and any prize money for points will be on top. Even no points will mean at least £10m from everything else.

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Whats the hipe with foster or any goalie for that mind pulling of saves to help there team win a game god the way you lot go on baffles me,i was always under the impression thats what they got paid to do,is it not or am i missing something

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Funny uefa confirmed 15.5 millon without kicking a ball,fab1

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Yep ... and then theirs the mess newco is in

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@3: this is not a page for Rangers fans, it's a page for Rangers banter - there is a difference. If you don't like the fact that fans of other teams are on here, then don't come on.

@14: eh?!

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Septic stink

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24 Aug 2012 02:02:16
Just heard allan hutton will be back and young kid from argentina...... Alan mcgregor not wanted btw !!!!

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No chance Hutton will be back matey, I'll wear hoops for a day if it's true.

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Get off the glue, Hutton could play in epl still if norwich think that lump of wood Whittker can, Hutton 5 times the player Whittker will ever be, he ain't coming to the 4th tier of Scottish football.

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No doubt Hutton will be back, as a supporter sitting in the stand though not as a player.

Rangers1

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Not a chance

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Once again the twilight zone never fails to impress!1

bil72

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@2 - You are talking craig whyte ! Huttons not 5 times the player hes 50 times the player Whitts ever was ie He IS a defender good going forward Whitts was a forward playing crap defender ...george

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24 Aug 2012 00:22:06
Club
Rangers FC Scotland .ProfileDomesticUEFA Champions LeagueUEFA Europa League.» Last match13/05/2012 (Scottish Premier League)v St Johnstone (A) 0-4

if Darryl King is to be believed UEFA have got this wrong. They say Rangers last atch was on ay 13 against St Johnstone.
Must be a new team in Scotland then. If its a choice between UEFA being right or Darryl King being right then my money is on UEFA.
UEFA - "We dont do rewriting history."

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If you type in "The Rangers football club ltd" you will get 99 hits on Uefa's website. So don't see the point to this post.
P.O.B.

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Sorry, what is your point?

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When will you accept that our history will remain?

It obviously irritates you that us Bears won't let our history fade. Irritation can be the only reason for your post.

TTG why you posted this.

Rang

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Did Green not claim if the the CVA was refused that was it? The history had ended? Goram,Gough and Hately also claimed this.This argument will go on till the liquidation starts properly.

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I think the case is that UEFA only recognises the SPL, so any fixtures not in the SPL don't count (same with the League Cup - it's not recognised on UEFA's website probably for the same reason, i.e. it is run by the SFL).

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WOW. Don't know what happened to my earlier post:S.

TTG

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Put it to bed, all these sillhy little tit for tat points. THE HISTORY REMAINS AND IS CONFIRMED ON THE SFL WEBSITE, ALL PREVIOUS HONORS ARE REFERENCED.

Jas

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Jas, Just because the genius who edits the SFL website has referenced previous honours doesnt make it correct. Perhaps the guy is a Rangers fan....I'm sure if i was editing it I would have put: The Rangers founded 2012 honours 0 but thats just me! oh and I would have been correct unlike the SFL website.

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If history remains why can't you show footage of it on you're website

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If the SFL are willing to accept it then why wont you Celtic (rangers obsessed) fans accept it. Youre the only people who wont accept it. Youre all totally obsessed by it. We are Rangers, always have been, always will be, FACT!

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@3: history remains but can't be added to. The Rangers have a history of a few games. {Ed039's Note - who are The Rangers?)

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The SFL could be wrong. It will be interesting to see what UEFA and FIFA have to say. If it's different to the SFL then that'll be what we can go on, no matter what you have to say.

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@10: what is it that is regularly said about posts with FACT in them?

That they're nonsense.

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