Rangers Banter Archive June 23 2013

 

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23 Jun 2013 15:53:02
Anyone any idea how season tickets sales are going? Are we on target to match or even beat last years total?

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I heard 17, 500

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@1 and where did you hear that, the voices in your head. Its not been announced anywhere!

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@1 where did you hear that?

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@2 and 3 if you have got yours that will make it 17, 502 upward and onwards.

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Perhaps he has a wee pal in the ticket office who could tell him. Maybe not. Think about it though.

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I know lots of fans are saying they are not renewing, its a tough decision, no ST money no Rangers, but ST money does not guarantee anything. We need answers to lots of questions before lining the pockets of the vultures circling Ibrox, McCoist, Smith and all the other so called Rangers men are a waste of space, what are they doing for us? what is the point of them being at the club if they keep quiet and go along with everything? as I see it Smith and McCoist are doing very well out of Rangers for their silence, who else would employ them for a fraction of what they are getting? time to speak out or get out, but they won't do either, as usual, and we are expected to hand over our money to god knows who for STs, this is a disgrace!

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15,000 st sold most punters pay at the gate the way forward until clarity is shown walter and ally need to give us answers

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Well the st renewal dates this Friday so we will find out how many we've sold how many fans will stick to their guns and pay at the gate that's when the vultures will show why they are really at ibrox for I hope most fans will pay at the gate because its the so called rangers men are treating us like persons by not answering the questions that needed answered months ago

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23 Jun 2013 15:24:07
Rangers young Canadian/Italian centre half luca gasparotto will go on to become a terrific centre half for rangers, I've got no doubt about it whatsoever, he's tremendous in the air, he can tackle & pass the ball well, gasparotto will go on to play in the English premiership one day and rangers will get a big transfer fee for him, our first team coach ian durrant said that gasparotto was by far the best centre half at the recent hong Kong tournament, he's definitely going to be a big player for us this season and more so in the future, what do my fellow rangers supporters think?

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Durrant also said Black had a good season.

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If he ends up as good as you say he will be I'm Italy soon, way of the world I'm afraid, really don't know how you can say he's going be terrific, who has he. played against? A butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker?

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Its a bit of a worry if our best player is the centre half. Perhaps Durrant is preparing us for the famous rangers line up of 1 up front.

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Gasparato has hardly had any game time, and McAusland has played 24 times for Ayr in SFL 2.
Only time will. tell if Gasparato is going to be a terrific player but who knows.
We need to bring in an experienced centre back if Boca and Goian move on - clarity is required ASAP.

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@3 Durant said he was the best center half at the tournament not necessarily the best player, read the post before jumping in.

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23 Jun 2013 14:20:10
jiggy jiggy jiggy can't you see, sometimes your goals just hypnotise me,
and I just love your flashy headers,
Guess that's why they broke, and you're so paid

A new wee chant I made what you think,

BlueBob

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Pmsl truely awful stuff. I'd say stick to the day job m8 but prob better you tell us what it is first :)

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Bluebob, class,
it doesn't rhyme, and the last line just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. in your world, what tune do you sing this to. shammy

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Haha this tune is top class well done, bob

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Ahh this is to the tune of biggie smalls hypnotise, its actually really good

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Why where those first 2 comments so critical, you've actually done good, love it

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23 Jun 2013 12:52:23
Should we help out Hearts by arranging a pre season friendly? Believable for yes. unbelievable for no.
Parky

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Why should we, no one in the SPL was shouting to offer help and came to our aid.
I wish Hearts all the best in their troubles but if its the third division so be it. PB

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Why not 'yes' for yes and 'no' for no. I admit is is perhaps a little complicated, but it could eventually catch on.

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I do not have a problem with it happening.

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I certainly won't be buying a ticket to help them out

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Why don't they ask peter lawwell for Celtic to give them a friendly as they bowed to his pressure last year, this is 1 of many parties rangers fans should have, I personally can't wait for aberdeen and dundee utd to go bankrupt, WE OWE SCOTTISH FOOTBALL NOTHING.

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Never mind helping Hearts, let us help ourselves as well, a two leg game I am sure would fill both stadiums and give both clubs a real nice little earner,

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23 Jun 2013 18:10:06
@4 Other than the suits at hampden, i'm not at all sure that scottish football expects or wants anything from us. Fed up with that kind of empty threat being bandied about.

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Maybe the question should be do the Hearts fans want the help or would they prefer to sort out their own mess?

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Sorry but I wouldn't give them the time of Day why should we play them, their supporters wanted us finished aswell as the other spl teams, why don't they ask hibs for a friendly derby Iam sure that would fill their ground, we owe spl teams nothing.

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I think the perfect answer to hearts should be if rangers play hearts the rangers support should let it be known we will refuse to buy season tickets ide rather see hearts finished completly that is called carma and is my answer

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The hearts fans won't want no favours from us. They hate us! They giggled like schoolgirls when we were in trouble a year a go. Let em sort themselves out. They'll feel better for it in the long run.

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10. I agree with sentance 1, 4, 5
I disagree with sentance 2 and 3

Sentance 4. they are already making a good job of doing that.

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Hearts will be fine, because they are so much smaller than rangers, a deal will be done by edinburgh businessmen because it is far easier with a club with 20,000 fans than one as large and and far reaching a ours, they have gotten away with a watch already, our club needed many more millions, having said this I won't forget the statements made by hearts hierarchy and some of their fans, we owe no, one nothing Tommyblue

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I'm afraid most of the posts here just make people look very bitter and twisted and its no wonder we have deep rooted problems in the game just now. I think Rangers should rise above all the ill feeling and help Hearts out where they can. What happened to us was down to the actions of OUR owners and no one else. We brought about our own downfall from within and it's irrelevant what other clubs supporters did or said. The article by Dingwall today is a disgrace and it just shows him up for the bitter and twisted individual he is and people like him shouldn't be given a platform to spout the bitterness nationally. All he has left is his bitterness and hatred something any decent Rangers fan should rise above

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24 Jun 2013 09:33:21
Pause for a second and think. Why do you think hearts are thinking of asking us for a friendly, I mean rangers specifically? Its not so much a case of "can you please help us mr mccoist" as "maybe we can help each other. " I. e. hearts know what most of the replies above conveniently forget, gers are also still dangerously skint! All this bravado saying "stuff them" smacks a little of cutting off nose to spite face to me. We could do with some cash. Misplaced ivory tower thinking is what got us into this mess.

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A the end of the day we as supporters of a club are in reality only customers of a Corporate entity who we pay a fee to, to be entertainedl for 90 minutes.
If there is malpratice in the Corporation then the public. according to what the law of the land is. demand that the punishments for doing so are inacted however the same public, if fair minded, feels sympathy for the customers of the Corporation who have also been badly let down by their wrong doing.

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Wasnt just hearts fans WHO giggled m8 am still giggling now one of the funniest things iv seen in my life can't wait to tell the gran Kids what happened to the worlds most succesfull club. Joe bhoy

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16) Their club has received its punishment for the wrong doing so can you no just put a sock in it and stop baiting them.

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N16 its a good job we can't see round corners eh

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I assume our withheld prize money from 2011 has run out then?

daviet

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23 Jun 2013 12:39:42
So do we think rangers should give hearts a hand and give them a friendly? Personally I think no way. After all the vile romanov has spouted in resent years.

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The problem with your view is that you are saying Romanov represents all of Hearts, like the majority claim it was Rangers fault for our ills- and not by the despicable deeds of CW. We need to get over it, life is too short for bitterness.

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Hearts had the opportunity to have two home meaningful money spinning games against rangers last season, but decided they didn't want or need them and voted us out of the SPL. So let them stew. Payback's a bitch.

Blueice

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But Romanov is no longer involved. How would you feel if others said they didn't like Rangers because of Whyte or Green?

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@2: those matches last year wouldn't have helped and, even if Hearts had voted to let you in, it still wouldn't have happened. All this talk of payback just shows many Rangers fans up as being petty, vengeful and mean-spirited. Get over it - what's done is done without wallowing in the past and trying to take out your anger about what happened to your club on others. You know exactly how Hearts fans feel just now and Rangers could win many friends by offering help, even when none was forthcoming a year ago. Two wrongs and all that.

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3) didn't they? 4) so it's let's all be friends because its someone else in trouble? Don't think so

Blueice

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@5: no, show a little humility and you might gain some respect - you know, that thing you and fans like you claim to have been shown none of by other teams/fans/Scottish football/the media. There's a reason for it and it's the attitude you display - not our fault, blame others, wish ill on them, total arrogance, no humility or respect for anyone else.

If you want respect, you have to show some first. If it's not been shown at all, the bigger person can break the cycle and try to make things more positive - others will follow suit, hopefully.

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No 1, hearts supporters were going too vote with their feet if their club voted to keep us in the spl, so wee qwe them nothing.

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No5 your talking b*******. obviously your a supporter of another club. you don't know how we feel or have been treated. hearts can go and take a running jump to themselves they made their qwn mistakes like we did and paid for it so how all off a sudden is it poor hearts. do you hear neil lennon saying that hearts did financial dopeing like he said about us.

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@8: did Hearts do that, though? You're another one with no humility, empathy or humanity, bringing down the reputation of the decent fans of your club by wishing ill on everyone else to make yourself feel better. Sad and pathetic.

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@8: what about the Hearts staff who've lost their jobs? Would you be OK if a friendly match helped to prevent any more job losses or do the staff deserve to be unemployed because of the actions of others and because bitterness stood in the way of a possible reprieve?

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Apoliges no5 I meant that post for no4.

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24 Jun 2013 01:31:28
I Think many are missing the point,, The Rangers fans mainly don't want to see hearts or anyone else lose jobs nor suffer hardship, but so many people don't seem to realise the hatred shown to Rangers last year, we were totally shown no understanding nor dignity, we the fans never did anything wrong, nor did the players, but the entire scottish football supporter frasternity insisted we suffer, and boy did we suffer, now some people who claim we should show some dignity, respect, and tolerance have the cheek to criticise rangers fans who don't want to show that aspect, because many will never forget what other teams fans and some directors wanted to happen to our club? we will never forget, Now don't think I want other teams to suffer, but, we are entitled to our opinion and to our wishes, don't ome on here telling us how to think
Tommyblue

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@12. well said mate. add onto to what you said about these people said the other clubs would not suffer because of the loss of the money input by rangers fans. ain't karma a bitch!

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24 Jun 2013 09:48:25
Lovin the ego trip on here that somehow rangers can save hearts anyway, like the rest of scottish football hinges on he fortunes on a div2 club. Unbelievable that after all that has happened a section of our support can still believe we are the central cog in the machine of scottish football, instead of just a big bit that broke first due to internal structural problems.

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@13: the fact Rangers didn't go to Tynecastle twice (might have been only once last season anyway) didn't affect Hearts like so many claims - the problems were far more deep-rooted than that. To think that no Rangers put Hearts into admin is just stupid.

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N15 the rangers support would not have solved all of hearts problems but would have helped and onybody saying it wouldn't have is talking through there anal ring

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@16: how is it talking through that then? It wouldn't have helped prevent administration given the magnitude of their problems. When are Rangers fans going to understand that the loss of income from two visits of Rangers didn't make much difference at all to Hearts' situation?

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N17 the 2 games against rangers would have meant they would not be pleading with so many TO PLEASE BUY SEASON TICKETS and our money wouldd have got them through the summer so maybe you should think before you post back by and 16

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25 Jun 2013 13:11:42
@18 Some simple sums will show that half a friendly gate would be covered by around just a few hundred season tickets. The friendly is just an idea to raise a bit of cash, not to save the day. But surprise surprise there's those around who interpret the suggestion as evidence that rangers remain the foundation of scottish football with the fate of other clubs in our hands. Pure delusion.

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@18: rubbish - admin wouldn't have been prevented by two matches against Rangers and it might have just been one. Hearts problems ran deeper than that and if they had played Rangers twice, that money would have been spent already, as the money from STs alrady sold has been to keep the club afloat this long. you obviously have little or no understanding of the situation at Hearts if you think that two matches against Rangers (how many visiting fans) would have saved them. Maybe you should just think, let alone think before you post lol

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N19 and 20 I never said it would save hearts but they would have made enough money from our visit to keep wolfs away from door a little longer

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26 Jun 2013 07:52:18
@21 / @18 You said it would mean mean hearts not having to plead with their fans to buy STs. that's total garbage mate, sorry.

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23 Jun 2013 11:09:06
hearts are said to be wanting rangers to help them out with a friendly to stop them going to the wall.
personally I think its a disgrace and a they have a cheeck, did any one help us or even offer a little.

so am against this motion from hearts

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The only way I'd help them is to give them a map of how to get to third division grounds.

Blueice

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I am dead against this. we never got any help from them. we have worked so hard in the last year without any support from spl teams. it's us vs the world now and we will win every time. I am nice guy and feel sorry for them but I will be very unhappy with we support them. what's everybody's opinion on this subject?

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Hi, I also think that Hearts have a cheek when they were so quick to put the boot into us last year, ah Karma is a good thing

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@2/ 'Us against the world' Tagged Abomb. But your a nice guy? Wow.

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Ever heard of taking the moral high ground and showing you're better than others by offering some help?

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I feel bad for the employees and some of the younger players but I have no sympathy for the fans and lads I work with who thought it was great when we went through our troubles. The fans of SPL clubs spoke loud and clear when they said they would rather their clubs went bust than help Rangers. Seems they are getting what they wanted, deal with it!
Gavla

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5)before I start I'd like you to remember last seasons buzzwords sporting integrity. A few weeks ago an SPL probe found insufficient evidence that hearts sister companies had been liquidated sparing hearts a 15 point deduction and saving them from relegation. Hearts agreed with the finding because they said they were not financially reliant on any of them and were doing fine thank you very much. Two weeks later they enter administration and are deducted 15 points for next season effectively they lied and have cheated Dundee out of their rightful place in the SPL and dramatically reducing their income next season. So if any team should benefit from a money spinning friendly sporting integrity says it should be Dundee not hearts.

Blueice

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Truthfully I always prefer Hearts to Hibs and as a christian both of these things would make me want to show our team and our fans are better than all the conmen crooks and bigots we have suffered. Your average Hearts fan prefers Gers to Celtic and your average Hearts fan is going through the same as we have and we all know how bad that feels, time to show compassion and that we the fans are not all bad. I would attend a game to help the Jambos and I think Ibrox would be near a sell out. A great way to show the right thing to do. george

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@8/ How do you know the average hearts fan prefers Rangers to Celtic?

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No5 did anyone take the moral high ground with us.

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No7 well said couldn't have said it better myself.

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@5. like all the help we got whilst in trouble. Hearts had better save their favours for when they require a temporary licence to play in the ramsden cup 2 days later! Oh and when they beg for a chance to replace a 2nd place SPL squad with a few trialists. Hmm let me think. That's right, eff em!

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@10: maybe not but it would look good if Rangers did, surely. You bitter and determined that the fans of another club suffer too?

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23 Jun 2013 22:26:00
@12: and how did Hearts cause that happening to your club. Yet again, you and others look to blame anyone else for the problems caused by the owners of Rangers and, in some part, the inaction of fans.

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@13 suppose it would look good for us to give em a benefit match. Win win for us then. Look good or feel good!

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