Rangers Banter Archive July 23 2015

 

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23 Jul 2015 18:58:15
bbc radio scotland reporting rangers will be back in with a 3rd bid also reporting ally mccoist had him in last season on trial and could have signed him for nothing but decided not to offer him a contract then stubbs and hibs took him for this stubbs is asking him to give them one more year as a pay back

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{Ed039's Note - Aye as I said on another thread Super Salary decided to extend the contract of Kyle Hutton instead!)

23 Jul 2015 20:01:01
Blessing in disguise in my opinion! . Had we signed him then. He prob woulda been sold in January by the old board. Just like McLeod

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23 Jul 2015 20:22:53
The poor boy would be having trials at Berwick Rangers and such by now if fat Ally did sign him.

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23 Jul 2015 20:45:40
evening ed first time poster here. is it not time we moved on from ally mccoist now we are under a new management team and it is time to forget the past and look forward to an exciting future under weir and warburton. I would love scott allan at rangers and would have been good to have had him last season but as a poster stated our previous board probably would have punted him. just wondering what you make of the dave king interview with jim white and also how you think things are going so fa and do ou think the future is looking good for us now.

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{Ed039's Note - Welcome to the site Jimbo, apologies in the delay in responding but I have been working, I think the future looks better but only if the recent investments pay off immediately and the crowds return to Ibrox on a consistent basis. I really dont know what to make of Mr King's interview with Jim Whyte, on one hand it is true what he is saying in terms of the fans having to spend money, but he needs to realise that the fans will spend again but only when the terms are better for Rangers, and that happens when the £5m loan is repaid to Mike Ashley, obviously he knows that and knows how to solve it but wont do it, so some of the things he say make sense but on the same hand begger belief)

23 Jul 2015 22:53:37
Know what lads, he might not have been a good manager or even a manager for that matter but no one else was knocking down our door for the job when we were going through all that crap. He's blue beyond blue and one of the best strikers to grace our game, so mind your language and remember what he HAS done for the club we all love. And don't start bleating on about wages etc. Rant over. Mon the Bears.

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{Ed039's Note - I cant agree with that one mate, McCoist is one of the reasons we found ourselves in the s***e last season on and off the field, a very major contributor and it looks to me that he was laughing up his sleeve at the fans and is still doing it by taking his healthy salary every month despite already being very wealthy at Rangers expense)

23 Jul 2015 18:35:24
great to hear the young hibs boy wants to better himself cause if he stays in Edinburgh he will always be worth $200,000lm;.moving to govan and he instantly will be worth 2 even 3 times as much and 7 figures doon the road. deecee

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24 Jul 2015 06:52:36
deecee the only reason he is worth £200,000 currently is because he is on the last year of his deal. The second he signs a longer term deal, with anyone, his value will go up. But on the subject of Rangers development and we don't have much to go on regards hard cash, do you think the club would get back it's £700,000 on Templeton as is?

The funny thing is of all clubs to make this insane comparison about, Hibs have a long history of developing young players and selling them on, you know, the very prototype you should have had in place four seasons ago. So please stop with the history re-writing.

Given your historical football knowledge deecee am I to conclude you've been a football fan only since Mark Warburton arrived or did you just not pay attention before?

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23 Jul 2015 18:32:32
Scott Allan hands in transfer request, Gardner1965 never returns to this page. Lol

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23 Jul 2015 19:44:15
There were a lot of other people saying he was not signing. I know it's far from being done, but if the player gets his way he will be in blue next season lol

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23 Jul 2015 18:30:49
Join the revolution #handitin

All that needs to be said.

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23 Jul 2015 18:47:16
hibs reject rangers second offer skysports

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24 Jul 2015 08:21:40
Alaska This was about him handing in his transfer request.

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23 Jul 2015 18:26:42
Allan asked to leave Hibs this afternoon, could very well be a Rangers player before the game against Hibs on Saturday.

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23 Jul 2015 18:43:36
I would say, will be unless they stand firm as I think we will up offer if need be but not to a stupid amount.

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23 Jul 2015 18:56:39
I would love to believe it

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23 Jul 2015 18:08:18
Even if I go home tonight and my missus is standing in sussies beggin me to follow her up the stairs I don't think It would top hearing the newz scott allen has told hibs he wants to come to us!! Come on home scotty boy.so gardner 1965.get it roon ye!

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{Ed039's Note - It would be a good signing mate but I think I speak for all of us when I say no way would it stop us following your missus up the stairs wi her sussies on mate :-)

23 Jul 2015 18:23:28
Form a que @ Bigcols house lol

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23 Jul 2015 18:24:54
Brilliant retort Ed!
Nearly choked on me after eights!
Couldn't agree more Bigcol, great news and word of warning, if the wife/gf says up the stair big man, then you RUN up those stairs!

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23 Jul 2015 18:29:22
Bloody hell he is just yet another young player who didn't make it down south and now looks to make a bigger wage with us. As for the story's going the rounds that he told Hibs he wants out? do we wish this kind of thing at our club? No loyalty to anything other than the money.

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{Ed039's Note - I dont agree with the loyalty thing, the boy is a Rangers fan and he would have signed last season if McCoist had the sense to come knocking, but he decided instead to offer Kyle Hutton a one year contract!)

23 Jul 2015 18:32:10
Haha ed you havnt seen my wife

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{Ed039's Note - Trust me mate it wouldnt make a difference)

23 Jul 2015 18:46:34
Exactly right Ed. The only reason he isn't at Ibrox is because of McCoist. Hutton or Allan? Hmmm. now let me see.

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23 Jul 2015 18:54:56
Spot on Ed

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23 Jul 2015 18:58:00
he would be like double signing I posted earlier they would make 2 bids cause diruption at hibs and give us another part of the jigsaw

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23 Jul 2015 19:40:14
Whit jigsaw?We sign him or we don't.

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23 Jul 2015 21:02:39
gkk what is ajigsaw it consits of parts that u put together to make a picture warburton is signing players who are all part of the jigsaw he is putting together to make a team its not maculloch reincarnated

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24 Jul 2015 11:27:55
Quite right ED you don't look at the mantle-piece when you are poking the fire et all. And Bigcol wondered why we wanted his dug to pick the Gers team?

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23 Jul 2015 18:02:57
Scott Allan tells hibs he wants a move to Ibrox. Source : STV

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23 Jul 2015 17:43:35
well this is for all the super fans who complain about king and tree bears put in if the club draws in£7.5 m in season book money less 20% v a t how would they fund the rest and repair ibrox and murray park and pay ashley I will be especially interested in mullad a billy b answers

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23 Jul 2015 18:38:25
Well first Bigwull i'd get rid of Murray Park then i'd get rid of King both have been seen to have not provided what they were supposed too.
Then i'd put a wage cap on all the management and playing staff, then i'd start from the bottom up until we got to where we belong . fan owned no debt and rid of charlatans and fibbers who like nothing more than to see their shiny faces in our directors boxes,,as for Ibrox i'd firstly make sure who actually owns it then take it from there and if need be move to another venue if certain others are the owners . Funny how Brownie is not shouting from the roof tops sill about that one? 7.5m added to revenue from tv etc should be more than enough to get us on the way back to the top. Get re-listed be open and be realistic. not that hard really. or go with the King model of,, getting the fans to buy season tickets etc and use that money to do??? ohhh the exact same?

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23 Jul 2015 19:45:58
Get rid of Murray park? Are u mad? Let's just train at Glasgow green eh.

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23 Jul 2015 21:13:45
still don't see any replies on how to fund club that's different from the way we are doing so

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24 Jul 2015 11:37:49
Cee that is the problem mate. Auchenhowie was meant to be a youth development facility not a feckin training ground. Auchenhowie cost £14million plus interest. We could have built a customised training ground for a fraction of that cost.
Now you see what Dundee United do without the benefit of a youth develoment facility -that is fund a lot of their club by finding, developing and then selling on at a huge profit their own youngsters then that was the only/ main purpose of Auchenhowie.

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24 Jul 2015 15:39:06
It takes time for youth to come through and we didn't excactly have a good time the past couple of years with a lot of youth leaving bendiksen, McCabe, Ness, etc. We have a manager who will focus on youth now and might get the best out of auchenhowie. a managers came in we have a great stadium and training ground now we just have to get good players lol

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23 Jul 2015 17:40:22
Great season ahead on the field I'm sure

Keep on boycotting merchandise! Just buy the stuff that goes straight into the companies coffers!

I'm sick fed up to the back of my teeth on the subject of Mike Ashley!

His company is no JJB that's for sure!

We had a decent "handshake" deal with Dave Whelan 50m deal over a 10 year contract back in 2002

Eventually the plug being pulled the latter years due to financial circumstances

Ohh then Mike Ashley pops about when we were at our most "vulnerable low" to see what he can get his hands on

Shrewd Business man but a very greedy one at that!

What deal did we get with this man?

Remember everytime you buy a Rangers top or anything in association with Sports Direct mostly goes into Mike Ashley's wallet?
Why what as he done for Rangers FC?! He knows nothing about us and doesn't care about the fans

Please don't buy merchandise and we will just get along fine

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23 Jul 2015 18:55:26
kaz don't be foolish if kit is not bought club has to come good for it

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23 Jul 2015 17:11:06
Upped allan bid to £250k according to stv Web page. no report of response as yet

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23 Jul 2015 13:13:28
Let's think about this for a minute, According to multiple websites which are there for the purpose of telling stats on players, including the price of players, prices Allan at 275k. The kid has 11 months left on his contract, so why are people moaning about Warburton believing the kid is only worth 175k? Hibs if they don't go up this season are in serious trouble, And let's be honest, we will more than likely finish first this year. Hibs can't afford another year outside the SPFL, and with their "great fan base" I don't see it getting any better for them.

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23 Jul 2015 14:00:36
The problem with most things you write onlyshow is that you think of things for a minute, when perhaps five minutes thought would be better.

"Hibs don't go up this season they are in serious trouble." I can think of another club that fits that billing too.

"We will more than likely finish first this year." I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you probably said the same thing last year.

"Great fan base." Isn't there another club being urged to buy more season tickets, spend more on merchandise by their new owner of sorts because otherwise they will always be languishing behind a rival and isn't that clubs attendances down a good bit too?

So, in summary, I think it's fair to say while you may be correct of your synopsis of all things Hibs I think it is also true that every assertion you made fits at Ibrox too, no?

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23 Jul 2015 14:10:19
Hahaha Gaz talking about our attendances hahaha

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23 Jul 2015 14:43:04
This was my evaluation of hibs situation, and no actually Gaz last year I said Hearts would win, and comfortably. The funny thing about you Gaz is that you jump on your high horse a lot, you also fall off it a lot. From what I've heard 32k season tickets have been sold for rangers, compared to 10k for hibs. Hibs highest attendance was 15k last year and that is counting away fans. Hibs average was 10k. This year I don't see much changing. Infact I can see it being worse.

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23 Jul 2015 15:07:12
Got to concur with Gaz here.
While being confident of winning this league,we have more to lose by not going up.

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23 Jul 2015 15:07:43
'Hibs ,if they don't go up this year are in serious trouble',do you think they've got a better chance of going up if they keep SA or if they sell him?.

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23 Jul 2015 16:30:22
yes Aindoh I do, If it comes to play-offs then SA is a key player for them. that's why I personally want him so bad. Karma and all that.

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23 Jul 2015 16:49:33
Onlyshow I'm not disputing what you are saying about Hibs one bit but it's the almost myopic way some of you go about making predictions or assumptions without remotely appreciating the same is true at home as well. Hibs have wallowed about second tier football on a number of occasions and are still here. This is no huge armageddon for them. Actual attendances between the 2 clubs don't matter a damn, your expenditure and losses dwarf theirs so attendances as such is utterly moot and pointless. Fair play to you if you said Hearts would win last season however was this in July or December lol?

As for Nippon Bear as ever you miss the point, the comparison was between Rangers and Hibs and regardless of figures I was merely saying what was true of one was true of the other. You with your hair-trigger, knee jerk pointlessness somehow brought Celtic into it. Next time Nippon, find some context before replying please. But since you are on it, 48,000 for a second round CL qualifying game last week. How many times did you beat that last season? For context, you know, context, Rangers last CL tie was Malmo in the THIRD round in 2012, 28,000.

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23 Jul 2015 17:34:21
I would think that hibs a sitting better then we are all the money that goes into hibs stays at hibs we still have sportsdirect hanging over us

It's just a pity MW/DW had not took over three years ago it would be a totally differnt club
As for 175k it's a good first time bid they will be looking for 250 ish

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23 Jul 2015 17:44:58
Yes Onlyshow,buts that's all the more reason that Hibs should keep him,to help them get promoted,they got him on a free tranfer and if he goes to Ibrox in the summer for free,its not like they are losing money that SA cost them,if they take a tranfer fee for him just now and fail to get promoted,they will still be worse of financialy unless they get something like £3million for him.

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24 Jul 2015 06:36:36
Gaz smashing his effort high and wide , again.
Where in my previous post did I mention Celtic?
Letting your paranoia rule your typing fingers. Since you mentioned Celtic, why don't you look at the attendances against Zagreb, Salzburg and the other team last year. Not exactly packing them in yourselves, eh?

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24 Jul 2015 10:10:49
Okay nippon when you said "Hahaha Gaz talking about our attendances." what did you mean? You didn't mean by comparison with anyone else then? And therefore you were just stating a fact I presume, if so why the hahaha? Do you inexplicably laugh at statements of fact?

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24 Jul 2015 10:52:04
I was reflecting on the decline of attendances throughout Scotland, yet you can only single out Ibrox. How petty.

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24 Jul 2015 11:52:46
Throughout Scotland? Several years back most division three teams attendances went through the roof, the next year Division 1 teams and last season a lot of Championship teams had improved attendances. Now it goes without saying that was due to the draw of Rangers and Rangers travelling support but 3 seasons ago 7 of 12 SPL teams had improved attendances too so where is this "throughout Scotland" you talk of shy of the Old Firm and several others? In the most part, due to Rangers, attendances have realigned not declined short of limited capacity at smaller grounds having an impact.

Not for the first time Nippon your argument falls a long way short of being an argument and in case it still hasn't impacted your skull I was solely making a comparison between Rangers and Hibs, that would involve singling out Rangers no?

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24 Jul 2015 12:32:30
Sweet Gaz , you can resort personal pings all you want, but please do some research before commenting that the average attendance , in Scotland, hasn't declined over the last few years. Google it. We are off for some sushi. Wasabi is less pungent than your nonsense.

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24 Jul 2015 13:05:15
You said throughout Scotland, that is wrong. At least have the brains or faith to stand by your own words and understand their meaning. Moving the goalposts to another definition does not make you right. Enjoy your sushi, brain food, it might help!

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24 Jul 2015 22:56:19
Yes Gaz , where are you failing to understand? Throughout Scottish football .I have trouble when you fail to comprehend that througout scottish football, attendances have went down? Yes, some clubs ( in the lower divisions, a matter of 100s) have flourished, but mos( the top divisions)t have declined. Numerically speaking these clubs are not attracting the crowds, hence the downward spiral of a whole. You can not possibly be suggesting that the competition is more attractive than a few years ago?! Is it these presumptions that make you type?
By the way the sushi was awesome! Try some.

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23 Jul 2015 10:15:42
Scott Allen would be good 4 us but can't c it happening till after cup game?

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23 Jul 2015 10:25:51
why would it be after the cup game? The cup isn't a big deal to hibs.

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23 Jul 2015 18:54:07
This cup means absolutely diddly squat. The only thing the game will do is help people gauge where the two teams currently are. As Bomber says whoever wins will put down a marker for the rest of the season. I chuckled a little when I read that big Waghorn had said Hibs were nothing great after his Wigan side had met them in a pre season game. Apparently he scored two goals against them. Gaun yersel big man!

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23 Jul 2015 09:22:03
Scott allan Favouriting tweets on twitter with the #handitin. and most saying "join the revolution"

looks like the lad wants to come! Purely a matter of time.

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23 Jul 2015 10:26:42
Defo want him in now.he would be the missing link however I don't think we should go mental with the fee.i think we had hoped Scott would tell hibs he wants to go.i don't think hibs will be stupid enough to turn down 3 or 400,000.cmon Scott join the revolution!🇬🇧🇬🇧

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23 Jul 2015 13:23:43
Aye, we want Allan, he wants to play for us. Don't think hibs would knock back 400k
But are the board wiling to pay that when we could get him for free next season. MW now looking at free Brentford midfielder- he could sign him for a year to strengthen midfield then sign Allan free next summer.
Been sayin it for ages we should also prioritise a proven goalscorer - look at the misses on tues.
Ideally we sign Allan and good striker now, Good investment on the pitch and in the bank.

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23 Jul 2015 15:33:53
Dave King promised that he would spend whatever it takes for Rangers to get out of the Championship.

Well, signing Scott Allan would go a fairly long way to making that happen, wouldn’t it?

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23 Jul 2015 01:58:56
As most of you will know the 100k bid for Allan was to see if we could get a reaction from him I.e. Hand in a transfer request, scrolling through Twitter I noticed he favorited a tweet saying "join the revolution #HandItIn" could be a indication that he may try force a move through? Thoughts bears.

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23 Jul 2015 08:48:39
you got laugh at the amount offered for him 100k will not persuade hibs to sell him it will cost upwards of 500k plus add ons our club is just playing silly beggars putting that kind of bid in

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23 Jul 2015 09:58:07
The bid wasn't to sign him craig. It was to let Allan know we are coming to sign him. He is a bluenose, he'll hand in a transfer request and we'll sign him for 400k. Also I seen the tweet he Favourited, looks promising

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23 Jul 2015 10:11:21
why mess about though get him in the door before the cup game
that is all I am saying a think the lad will no by now that we want him

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23 Jul 2015 10:18:28
he has 11 months left on his contract, why over spend on him? he is worth 700k maybe. so with 11 months to go offer less. 400k is something that hibs can't refuse, if they don't go up this season they are financially in BIG trouble.

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23 Jul 2015 10:20:16
He is not coming , we can't afford him.

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23 Jul 2015 11:26:33
Favouriteed LOL.Never mind Hibs being in trouble aso,what about us if we don't go up?

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23 Jul 2015 12:36:20
Gkk, I don't see that happening. I see us finishing first.

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23 Jul 2015 14:21:15
I see us winning it too mate.
We better!Big,big season though.

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23 Jul 2015 00:53:10
Daily Mail have reported it was a " sizeable " bid we had rejected for Allan, yet Daily Record says it was100k?? Dunno who to believe

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23 Jul 2015 08:32:42
He plays For a championship club and he's in the last year of his contract, it's a fair amount.

If hibs are wanting 700 000+ tell them to bolt, Ryan Christie would be just as good!

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