Rangers Banter Archive July 23 2012

23 Jul 2012 20:40:06
Still no licence, and yet we are on about this player and that player....we still CAN'T sign players.
The likes of Beattie and Black etc cant wait any longer, and how can you blame them, they will end up with no club.
Green will not divulge information relating certain individuals to the Newco, and the SFA won't give a licence without it, and if Green gives in, the fans will stall again, once they see who is actually involved.
Stalemate, we're in big trouble, 6 days to k.o., if anyone is excited about the new season, or the future, or glad we are in the bottom div, then you need put in a white jacket and locked away, we are in a dire situation, and could even go into admin again very very soon.

They cannae wait another week?!? They've already waited umpteen, so what difference is one more?

Give the doom and gloom bit a rest. IF we get a licence let's sign..... is more interesting than the: we're all doomed you know angle.

The difference is, that teams will have their players on board and they will be left without a club...that's the difference.

23 Jul 2012 20:11:49
Charles Green, Chief Executive of The Rangers Football Club said, "For the avoidance of doubt, the owners and board of the Club are not interested in selling a majority stake in Rangers to anyone.

"I have said many times we are happy to talk to potential investors who wish to join the consortium on the basis that no single investor will have a majority shareholding and they support our commitment to a share issue for fans.

"We have checked with all the official representatives of shareholders and none of them have had meetings with Brian Kennedy so we have no idea who the gentleman is he is referring to.


"He has not contacted any board members on this matter and we have never received any written offer from him.

"Many people had the opportunity to purchase the Club prior to our consortium but failed to do so, including Mr Kennedy. Talk of yet more bids is a distraction from the very real task of securing SFA membership and rebuilding the Club for the future.

"That is our sole focus and should be the priority for everyone with Rangers best interests at heart."

Can someone explain what they are disagreeing with here ?

23 Jul 2012 19:38:24
After yesterdays news that unless the SPL recieve the rights to broadcast rangers games (of course they dont want to pay for them) in exchange for rangers license to play competative football & SFA membership, then they shall not be making the annual settlement payment.

This can only mean that the SPL is Financially BANKRUPT, we have all seen that they are morally bankrupt anyway. With celtic continuing their campaign to have rangers stripped of their titles (without conviction)! & SPL chairmen readily attacking the SFL in the media for doing exactly the same (no not the same)! For doing what was morally right!

This latest cheap & nasty attack on the SFL is without a doubt the most sickening shameless excuse for daylight robbery that has ever been perpetrated inside scotland & if the proculator fiscal does not immediately demand a police enquiry (blackmail is a crime) then direct action should taken by the SFL breaking away & refusing to promote any club beyond the 1st division & demanding a parlimentary enquiry into the so called governers of scottish football.

The latest victim of the ineptitude of the SFA & SPL 'Kelty Hearts' said it better than anyone else could 'thank you SFA for damaging the upper & lower ends of scottish football. With this condemnation ringing in the ears of regan & doncaster they should pack their bags & go before they inflict a death sentence to the whole of scottish football.

They have already driven a number of nails into the coffin of the SPL with their pandering to only one club and with each new revelation about their back door deals (none of which even seem to materialise) and their constant siding with the aforementioned club & its directors, they have shown that they are incapable of indepentant thought let alone governance.

If the SPL cannot survive without rangers media broadcasting rights then they should call in the adminstrators immediately, otherwise they should never again try to blackmail the SFL with threats of witholding a legally binding contractural payment. If the SFL season is delayed because of the SPL demnds for more blood money, this time not only from rangers but also from the teams that can least afford it, then the SFL should sue the SFA & the SPL for damages. Hell with the right judge they could end up owning the SPL aswell, but would they actually want it!

The actions of a small 'cabal of corruption' within the SPL & SFA must be investigated and they must be held accountable for the damage they have done to & are still perpetrating upon the scottish footballing community. Atleast we now know what their plans were for life without rangers...THEFT...BLACKMAIL...BRIBERY...DECIEPT... DISGRACE.

They must go & if they are bankrupt financially then they must be liquidated, for the good of scottish football & in the interests of sporting fairness, these corrupt & morally deficient theives must be brought to book & quickly.

Spot on
VHSS

What a long boring rant... rangers have been using their position of power over the rest of scottish football for the last two decades. the pendulum has swung the other way. doesn't feel good does it? Whilst i agree that aspects of the spl approach are underhand and lacking integrity, they are merely executing learned behaviours. Behaviours of which you oldco blazed the trail. you reap what you sow...

Dilluisional, misguided and just warped view on what's going on.

Rangers being liquidated - club and collective directors fault, no one else.

Sold and Newco applied for membership to be transferred. outstanding issues relating to current membership that is to be transferred remain to be dealt with.

Not complicated, uncomfortable yes, but cannot be ignored.

2) Learned behaviour that you seem to be endorsing. VHSS

Excellent post, bravo! The actions of the SPL are diabolical and becoming ever more desperate with each passing day. I am starting to think that RFC would be better off ANYWHERE other than in the crooked, money grubbing SPL! The whole shambolic, sorry 'cabal' will fall apart soon enough anyway. Celtic think they now own the SPL, well, give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves! The other SPL clubs didn't like being dictated to by the Old Firm, think how much less they will like being dictated to by Celtic on their own!?

23 Jul 2012 17:17:19
CG issued statement denying claims by BK.

Kennedy v Green who do we believe?

I like kennedy,and i like Green,theres only one way to decide. FIGHT!

BK now shown proof of his bid on the table from Jun 27, seems CG is just a big liar, source BBC News

He's not shown proof, he's just said he could ...... And we all know BK's record on delivery -lol

23 Jul 2012 17:13:15
The Cheeky Chappies mask slips day by day!!Yes hes a rangers man thru& thru,but his outbursts are embarassing,he wanted the tribuneral commity named,whilst already knowing who they where! now his frustration has got the better of him,nothing in the press today regarding police intervention due to death threats to sfa members..ALLY rfc have been banned from europe,sent to div3,10points deduction,transfer embargo,these are sanctions,NOT punishments,the stripping of titles(is this his excuse to walk?)whats the governing body too do,just forget about it??stevo

Another Celtic supporter fascinated by our club,
let me explain it for you, sanction, the meaning is: a threatened penalty for disobeying a law or rule, so how exactly is all these sanctions imposed not a penalty and when is a penalty a punishment.

Ok Stevo, perhaps we should al just write these 'consequences' of as nothing!!
Are u serious - we are all but wiped out & still it's not enough for some
SAD

bil72

No Stevo,but as you have previously informed us on numerous occasions,we are a Newco. So why should we agree to future sanctions of an unknown quantity being proposed IF we don't exist anymore?
P.O.B.

1) Whats your take on Livingstones sanctions then?? You deluded fool!

Too right Stevo, this is the very man that said in 1994 that he was enjoying our pain. Well the shoe is on the other foot and his mask is slipping. So that’s their problem now, and i’m loving what’s happening to them at the moment!

Ally let himself down in 1994 and again in 2012. He realises he has backed the wrong man in Green and he is attempting to get himself sacked, as he "doesn't do walking away!

So how many laws& rules did the olco break?unpayment of taxes,ni,no audicated accounts,entering administration-liqudation,sanctions will be for ebt,s...all the appropriate punishments are for abusing all off the above.....stevo

Because the newco want the oldcos membership....bill whos wiped yous out??murray and whyte,

And The '@ OP.Was about ally,not one responded too that...stevo

Let's be clear here, McCoist is simply pandering to the less educated fans of Rangers. It has NOTHING to do with Sevco88 or whatever they are called this week, the removal of titles (IF proved to be the case) is from Rangers Football Club, a club that is NO MORE. The Rangers (as I think they are to be called) have NO TITLES or cups to strip. What McCoist is doing is passing new for old, claiming oldco history or rather clinging on in a desperate attempt to appease the fans and make you buy into new club. A seige mentality has been created to make the fans follow follow an imitation of the old club. They are treating Rangers fans like fools and tricking you to part with money before the big truth is revealed. Sorry, not having a go at the fans of the club, more so the way those in charge are treating you and how SOME are falling for it. Scott

8)
stevo - - the point about Ally is that he is the only one voicing the (in my opinion) correct view that we are being royally screwed by everyone, who thinks they can make a buck or two.
1. other than what i would call the illegal non paying of tax etc by one man last year NOTHING has been proven.
2. we are being punished as oldco & newco as & when it suits various parties
3. we have been liquidated - we are in Div3 (maybe?), we have lost almost all of the 1st team & most of 2nd
4. we are out of europe for at least 3 years at a cost of minimum £30 mill
5. we can't even sign players to get us on the way back to some normality
5. those that have made the decisions to get us this far are now trying to get their hands on any tv money that would MAYBE come to us

Stevo - -don't you think he has a right to sound a bit p'eed off?

bil72

Back under your bridge troll @ Stevo

@10...1..still too be decided...2...newco takes on oldcos membership,agree the newco has done no wrong..3..liquidated,div3 the right place too restart& try rebuild...4...out europe due too a new company without 3 years audited accounts...5..embargo has been accepted,as other options where expulsion or license removed(which isnt even approved yet)...The laughable part is moaning about MONEY!!.what a joke..stevo {Ed039's Note - Stevo why is moaning about money a joke?)

Stevo, what does "audicated" mean? Did you attend the George W. Bush school of speech writing?

Poster 13 ,stevo and green jhedi spend most of their day looking up big words in the dictionary in the mitchell library ,pity they cant spell them right doug t.s.o

23 Jul 2012 16:51:48
Hearts captain Marius Zaliukas believes the Scottish game is going to be stronger without Rangers in the SPL this season.

Well he's entitled to his opinion , however out there it seems .

Stronger...nah. It just means that 2nd place is up for grabs
VHSS

Of course he does, dont imagine any SPL players going to miss RFC. After all Zalukas will be playing for second place and that's a step up.

Sure they wont be facing rangers anymore so will win more games but sadly not enough to win the league! think after next season he might regret saying it lol...mark.

Oh yeah, so much stronger with only one team likely to win! The rest of the teams in the SPhell then scrambling around for anything they can get just like the parasites they are! I thought we'd be shot of them after they voted not to accept us back in but oh no....Oliver style...please sir can we have some more! They want the tv rights to a club that they wanted nothing to do with! Given the desperate pleas for fans to buy season tickets and then this.....won't be long till a few more SPL clubs join us in Div 3!

@5: that's unlikely as any club in the SPL that goes into administration will probably leave it through a CVA rather than being liquidated and having to reapply etc.

23 Jul 2012 16:02:46
so "rangers" are charging £280 for a season ticket in division 3 whilst other teams are charging between £120-£200? just starting up and robbing the fans again!
frankiebhoy

Other div 3 teams dont have a huge stadium like Ibrox and a training ground like Murray Park to maintain If you want it all it costs thats life

Robbing the fans-When? We watched some great football won trophies and had a laugh in the champions league.The only teams robbing fans will what is left of the snore of a league called the SPL who need a 3rd Div team to get TV companies interested in showing any of their games.How much did you pay to watch your team in a league that needs the Gers to get your TV money?

And your point is? If we the fans want to pay that to support the club then so be it.

Too many Celtic supporters concerning themselves with what is going on at Rangers. You didn't want us but you are all still interested about everything that's happening at our club.

@1 or maybe just higher operating costs don't you think ?

If you work it out its £14 a game not bad for facilities and true skint bears dont even mind paying that follow follow

'frankiebhoy' Ross county are £366, Dun Utd - £299(start from), Hibs - £405, Aberdeen - £314, Motherwell - £380, Hearts - £480(executive), Kilmarnock - £330, Dundee - £350, St Johnstone - £295, Inverness - £370, St. Mirren - £310 and last but not least celtic - STARTING FROM £466, I SAID £466! for a one horse race, face it you'll be out of euro and left with the nailbiting SPL. I SAID STARTING FROM£466! There's not much maintenance/running cost needed for prefab park, quality prefab right enough. I mean seeing Dr. Reid has contacts in G4S in fact has a wee job with them so you'll be using them on the cheap. You wont even know when they are there - trouble is neither will G4S.
So you want to justify the overinflated price at your club. So who's robbing who?

If i were you id be more concerned with how much goals helsinki are going to put past that leaky defence of yours rather than the price of our seasons tickets mate. God we are in D3 now and they are still obsessed with us, unbelievable

With all the mince thats on telly during close season and bills coming in left right and centre for most, its not an obsession with sevco, its entertainment :D
roll on when we get even bigger laughs when the blue knights make a new bid, or super watty comes back with another consortium. its endless and laughable. so, in short, you's enjoy yer new diddy team and all the fun that comes with it :)
frankiebhoy

P.s @6 my ST cost £410 and its the best £410 i'm gonna spend all season. the enjoyment of having a team with a 125 year history thats intact and playing at the top level of scottish football.
frankiebhoy

23 Jul 2012 15:52:39
I'm sucicidal bears!
What's become of my club?
I lost £12.5k when they were liquidated, had shares.
We cannie even play a friendly with Kelty Hearts, no disrespect.
This is the stuff nightmares are made of!
There's nothing to suggest our new club could become a patch on what we were used too.
I feel sick to the gunnels at what's ahead.

23 Jul 2012 14:49:37
Sale Sharks owner Brian Kennedy has confirmed he remains interested in buying Rangers.

Kennedy, who was part of the Blue Knights consortium, was reportedly aiming to take a £5.6m controlling interest in Charles Green's Sevco.

It never fails to amaze me how every day there seems to be new twists and turns in this saga. What can we expect tomorrow my fellow Bears??

Stornoway Bluenose

Wrong mate...buying shares in sevco...not buying Rangers

Ffs itl be 2022 before we get a team going on the park with all this sh-t butting in ,at this rate we would have been as well taking a years ban out of football doug t.s.o

23 Jul 2012 13:52:51
Brian Kennedy confirms he's had a meeting with Sevco about the possibility of him buying a majority shareholding.

23 Jul 2012 13:40:57
IF THE SPL DONT PAY THE SFL THE 2MILION THAT IS DUE THEN I TAKE IT THERE WILL BE SANCTIONS FROM THE SFA

Div 3 with the lot of them, sporting integrity and all that. (joke). CheltBlue

23 Jul 2012 13:24:59
Rangers reduce season ticket prices considerably - adults & concessions by a third, juvenilles by 50%.

To compare with other 3rd div teams - Rangers season ticket starts at £258, Berwick is £140

Are you comparing the facilities at ibrox with the facilities at berwick,

JG

@1 Cost of Ibrox irrelevant to season ticket prices. Are you prepared to subsidise empty seats when the performance is D3 quality? Club needs to subsidise cost on par with other D3 prices.

23 Jul 2012 13:13:26
Rangers have announced that adult season tickets will be reduced by 25% and kids by 50% for the coming season. At last we have some clarity. I for one will be following on.

Mr Sporting Integrity

23 Jul 2012 12:47:04
An Associate member is basically a probationer for 4 years (Rule 19), the significant part of which states “An associate member shall have no financial interest in the assets of the league, and shall not be accorded any voting rights”

Lifted from another site but may explain the TV rights issue-just the rules.

Paddy Malarkey

So again we are the new club, when it suits, and also the old club when it suits. Can someone make up their mind and stop punishing both!

OP we are not in that category, good try but. We are applying for the transfer of the oldco membership.

Presently an associate member so rule applies . Not trying to score points, #2 , just looking at why TV rights can be sold without Newco agreement . Why do you think I have an agenda ? You are starting to get as paranoid as your rivals,looking for stuff that isn't there .You can disagree with opinion but that's lifted from SFL rule book .

Paddy Malarkey

#2
Unfortunately the OP is right mate.
We are only an Asscociate member at present.
P.O.B.

23 Jul 2012 12:03:25
Apparently Brian Kennedy has put a bid in or is going to put a bid in to become the majority shareholder. Last man standing again.
Green will need the money so could be interesting.

23 Jul 2012 11:18:17
Well well well,i have to eat humble pie,i have given Ian Black pelters when he played against Rangers ,now the lad wants to come and play for us,when he has obviously had offers elsewhere,thank you Ian,i hope you show the battling qualities we will require in Div 3,and i would even suggest you will go on to be a legend at Rangers,I for one hope you have a great time at a great club,welcome aboard.

£10k per week, dont think he'd care where he played.

There is no way he will be on 10k per week, doubt he was on anything near that with hearts as well

JG

23 Jul 2012 10:36:33
Brian kennedy to offer 5.6 million for 51 percent of the club, if this is true i for one will back him to the hilt, unity is now an urgency and if he can gain overall control then lets get right behind him , he will be transparent when it comes to the big decisions and certainly more trustworthy than what we have now...... he can have my £ right now.....col...

£5.6m cash? or the usual Kennedy crap with 99% of that figure including future Rangers revenue!

Do we want anyone to own 51% of the club, have you forgotten what happened to us in the past already
No one person should hold an overall majority 49% of the club is ok but 51% should be a no go

JG

JG

23 Jul 2012 10:06:55
No real surprise to me mo edu and Kirk. Broadfoot havnt left both are pathetic and were getting carried for over 2 years in oldco.

Dont think big kirk got a real chance at centre half where he played before coming to rangers, edu though seemed to hide in most of the games he played and added nothing to the team,maybe he is just not suited to the style of our football!

23 Jul 2012 06:49:59
Mr kennedy believed to be wanting around 51% of shares for 5.6million more then what green stumped up for all assets

He had numerous chances to take control, if he had bid that before he would have had all the assets then for 5.6M

JG

23 Jul 2012 06:17:23
Can sevco5088 use the 'rabgers' badge, name, strip etc? There's only six days to go before the SFL season starts

22 Jul 2012 23:47:40
McCoist is making a mug out of the fans whit his latest rant " i will not allow the stripping of any titles " Is the man mad ! All he thinks he has to do is open his trap and all will be well ! He obviosly has not learned any lessons from his past utterances. The man is a fool !

NO, YOU ARE THE FOOL, now run along.R/R