Rangers Banter Archive December 23 2014

23 Dec 2014 20:12:12
Don't understand why the various fans groups can't get together to form one large group & appoint a single spokesperson to ask the right questions of the board to try & get some sort of clarity about the future direction of the club among other things!

Who would you appoint as spokesperson though? Couldn't go wrong with Donald Findlay QC, would tear the current board apart if they actually had the balls to sit infront of him!

Donald finlay Jesus christ if that's who you want to represent the fans them am out he's a class a ****

24 Dec 2014 03:53:58
I mooted on here and various other forums 2 years ago that we should unite as fans and stop the squabbling, I even went far enough to call for a "Union" of fans, the idea got the usual bawlocks from the fans who have nothing positive to say EVER and suddenly the Union Of Fans is another splinter group.
If I had bigger hands I'd shake ye aw till you woke up at the same time.

Remember, they work for us, not the other way around so WE have the power to change things, 8 Million in the hole and still we have our Chairman speak to the shareholders like endentured servants?

If Rangers Football Club is to fail finacially, I'd rather it be because we stopped the influx of cash than they siphoned it off, euthanasia over murder.

With the money I'm saving by not lining there pockets that's another £2000 in my holiday fund so it's Jamaica this year, yay!

Once brand trust has been lost it is almost impossible to regain, remember Ratners? He fuqqed people off as mugs and what happened?

I implore you my brothers and sisters of the Blue, starve these ponces out, it is the only way we will ever have a club again even at the lowest level where we can rebuild on the integrity of what Bill Struth stood for and what we all yearn to have back, Pride in our club - not shame!

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

FFS

N3 - when are fans like you going to accept that much as it might pain you to admit it, you DON'T own the club and unless you're a shareholder, the board don't have to answer to you.

If you want to control the club, you need to buy more than 50% of the shares and if you get to 30% of the shares, you need to make a full take over offer to all shareholders at the highest price in the last year. To do that, you're going to need something in the region of £30,000,000 and I don't see that happening, given the fan groups factions do seem to be able to agree on anything.

Oops

Last sentence should finish don't seem to be able to agree on anything.

23 Dec 2014 18:28:55
I'm hearing Ms Laura tarbet rangers secretary for 43 years has been given 2& half years severance not 43!!!! So she loses due to the new rangers old rangers scenario being used by the board. I' m ashamed of my club if this is correct & god knows how the poor woman must feel after decades of service, anger, contempt, disgust spring too mind, absolutely shocking

I don't agree with it and its a sore one, but she must have known it was a new company when she TUPED over. Still should have looked after her better though.

That's not how TUPE works. You transfer over with your service from the last company. Something tells me that she has done this herself for the good of the club. Instead of taking them to a tribunal, she should spill the beans on all the goings on at the club. I bet she has a few stories in her handbag!

TUPE is meant to preserve your service though. If this is true, she has been royally shafted

I don't think redundancy payment legally has to cover her 43 years at the club. Think it's maybe capped at 20 or 25 years. However it's sad that such a loyal servant has lost her job and her wage and the others who lost their jobs isn't the problem

23 Dec 2014 18:06:24
Is this site ok cause nothing seems ta be getting through on my side.

{Ed001's Note - maybe you broke it?}

23 Dec 2014 15:07:01
In the cold light of day let us look at where we stand. In my opinion the agm was a shambles both from the board and the shareholders/fans. Surely it is time to have the board's comments to the previous year's trading, printed and issued to the fans. Thereby a series of questions could be asked to clarify the same. Then we could have a sensible dialogue on how things stand. Maybe, a closed door meeting between both parties would be a help as the current set-up can only end up in the bin.
Everyone[fan-wise. ] see yesterday as them getting their points across. Personally, I think it shows us for the embarassing set-up we are from top to bottom. Listening to the murrays, you would think they are doing everything to sort things out. [my ass]. The ''fans'' representatives are a total joke and ally is now a super-hero. As a manager he was as much use as a fart in a spacesuit and he had to leave the building. All that has transpired is Mike Ashley has our future in his hands. Did he set this situation up? Ask yourselves?

Durrant was dreadful with the the youth team before, McDowall was coach to our present squad. allowing square slow passing, watching keeper, defence booting the ball up the park, passing the ball backwards, no pace, decent players getting worse every week, did you watch QOS game? Ally clueless and you still feel sorry for them. HELP!!

23 Dec 2014 13:44:17
Resolution #9

votes for 44. 84% - against 55. 16%

board lost their resolution to allow them to have an open share offer

JG

23 Dec 2014 14:00:48
JG : What does that mean to a mere football fan like myself?Is that good or bad?

23 Dec 2014 14:11:44
the current crop of ashley easdale ect did not want there shares diluted so voted against it even though this was there proposal in the first place this is just a complete farce they are not allowing anyone outside of there gang to invest in the club something needs to give cause they have no money to run our club

Gkk - means the majority of existing shareholders did not agree with the proposal to give the board the power to have an open share offer which could have diluted their shareholding

it also means that it will be down to the existing shareholders to pump more money into the club to keep us going

either that or its just another excuse for some to boycott

Craig8688 - anybody, even King, can go to a stockbroker today and buy up any available shares in RIFC, once they have a shareholding they can apply for more shares in any future rights issue, and can apply to take up any shares which are left over

remember the last rights issue? there were approx.5m shares not taken up,
somebody outside "the gang" could have had them

JG

23 Dec 2014 15:09:24
JG:Cheers pal.

23 Dec 2014 15:28:01
yeh but ma point it is just another way of them all sticking together its complete farce why did they want raise this issue then reject it themselves just doesn't add up mate and I hope ashley proves me wrong but am not getting my hopes up on that one

I suppose if the board wanted it to lose one good point might be that it was actually so close and therefore if someone could get their hands on a few shares they might tip the balance against the current board which would be a good thing.

Now Durie is on Board let's see some talented kids getting a game. If Durrant had self respect he should walk, what a slap I the face.

23 Dec 2014 17:03:45
@6 Yes mate he has been treated a bit shabbily,plus they got McDowall to do the deed,bit surprised at that one regardless of how much our standards have dropped on and off field.I expect him to walk.

@6 & 7 slap in the face, treated shabbily, very short memories

Rangers treated durrant very well, he had a job sitting next to WS in the stand for a couple of years and then three years sitting next to ally titchmarsh,
so he has been treated well by the club

JG

Look neither of them lost their job and are both are well paid

@6. The vote on Res wasn't close though. It had a 75% barrier to be passed. It was there purely to show that the board were 'exploring all options'; the fact that they themselves recommended then voted against it speaks volumes.

24 Dec 2014 13:57:40
@8 I've not got your obvious business acumen or knowledge of shares etc,but my memory is sound.I was referring to the fact that one of the "board" should have told Durrant he was being demoted.

23 Dec 2014 07:20:01
llambias has to sit in front of loowell (sfa) and tell him our future business plans. who will then judge if they are suitable or not. surely the sfa should be made up of indept members who have no assocation to any club, not the head of your biggest rivals, what a joke!!

Wasnt so long ago the SFA was full of "Rangers Men" ( ogilvie I believe)not only committee members but the head honchos didn't hear you calling it a joke then or complaining. or is impartiality only a Rangers trait!!. I would have thought with so many on here complaining about the SFA not doing enough against green and whyte ( due dilligence) any questions to be asked of ashley would be welcomed or is it just you want action when it suits your own agenda and keep out of Rangers affairs until it all goes pear shape and then you have someone to blame??

" full of rangers men", please name names??, and I beleive campbell ogilvie was only the treasurer on june 2003 with the sfa, while still at rangers. he left rangers sept 2005, joined hearts and then became vice president of the sfa on june 2007, silly obssesed!!

Campbell Ogilvie (born 1950 or 1951)[1] is the President of the Scottish Football Association and the former managing director of Scottish Premier League football club Heart of Midlothian.

Ogilvie was appointed assistant secretary of the Scottish Football League. [2] In 1978, he was hired as general secretary at Rangers F. C. and later became a director of that club. Ogilvie relinquished his executive duties at Ibrox Stadium in September 2005, following a boardroom re-shuffle. [3]

Ogilvie joined Heart of Midlothian in November 2005 to undertake similar duties under the title "Operations Director". Ogilvie was later promoted to managing director on 14 March 2008. Oglivie held 3505 shares in Rangers FC while a senior manager at Hearts. [4]

In June 2003, Ogilvie became the treasurer, now second vice-president, of the Scottish Football Association (SFA). [5] On 1 June 2007, Ogilvie became first vice-president of the SFA, with Alan McRae taking his place as second vice-president. [6] On 8 June 2011 it was confirmed that Ogilvie would take up the presidency of the Scottish Football Association, succeeding George Peat. [1]

In March 2012 Ogilvie admitted to being a member of the Employee Benefit Trust scheme run at Rangers when he was a Director of Rangers as well as the treasurer of the Scottish Football Association. [7]

shareholder of Rangers while head honcho. not obsessed well not as much as some on here that are with loowell, liewell Lawell. ( appologies that he SEEMS to do a good job of CEO. someone of his calibre would be a boon to Rangers at this time and in the past few years

23 Dec 2014 10:40:38
Surely the obvious thing to do would be for the sfa to ask lawell to sit this one out as it may lead to a conflict of interests, as I'm sure they would've done with oglvie if it was other way, Incidently did big vlad have this problem when he took over at hearts & still had kaunus under his ownership.
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Let's face it Blueboy, Lawwell or no Lawwell, if Mike Ashley really wants the rules changed, he'll get what he wants.

What do you think the SFA should do?

While 3/4 of your reply backs up my point, which I thank you for, holding shares in a company, given or bought, when holding position of a treasurer doesn't mean a conflict of interest in any decision making process, as I would think, that would have been above that post, which he held, where as holding a chief exec post at club level, and president of your fa that you belong too does. the point being, want to sit on an sfa board, then have no club affiliation!!

23 Dec 2014 14:45:04
Disappointed Llamblas leaving Hampden, word floating around is Lawwel and Petrie rejected the proposal they also expressed their concern in the influence Ashley has used so far which will be addressed in January.

I have no issues with PL sitting on board. Let's face it, he has not done too bad a job across the road. It is to no ones benefit to dump this club but, big but, there has to be a proper business plan put forward which has direction and merit and will turn this club into a success. They previous and current group have been a shambles. (It is also to Celtics and every other clubs benefit, to have a strong Rangers back in SPL. ) maybe it's time for some proven directors to view the plan. if there is one!

N8 he has done not to bad across the city, because he has had no competition.